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12:01 AM
WebSocket disable by default in Fx4
IDIOTS
 
Ouch - that's why the bleeding edge is bleeding, eh?
 
 
2 hours later…
2:05 AM
so, yeah, creating the bot didn't even take half a day
 
@IvoWetzel you are awesome <3. Seriously you are awesome. Get a job at the awesome company
 
@Raynos I wish it was that easy, may be I get a internship in the next months, the idtios at the job center finally decided to help me...
Well I took my netbook with me the last time
Then I talked the shit outta that dude
 
:P would you consider getting a degree. I know you can get in easily if you want to
 
If I only knew some uni prof...
 
Oh trust me. Go to a uni, talk with these people. Send an email before hand
your skilled enough
 
2:15 AM
you're :P
 
heck if you want to ill put a word in for you here.
 
kitten needs a gramma check
 
your a grammar nazi
 
kitten say should transform it into lolcat speak
 
no
thts silly
@IvoWetzel good night. I partly envy you
 
2:25 AM
@Raynos good night :)
@Raynos Uh don't know... my life really sucks
 
morning
 
 
3 hours later…
5:35 AM
!kitten wisdom Nick Craver
ah yeah
 
 
3 hours later…
8:25 AM
@Chouchenos good morning
 
@IvoWetzel Hello to you too
 
!kitten say Good morning
 
Good morning
 
I see you made your kitten bot live
thought it would be a @NickCraver 's bot....
 
@Chouchenos More or less
@Chouchenos kittens are cooler
!kitten nick craver
 
8:28 AM
!kitten say woof
 
control over the kitten is given based on reputation
 
I got a lot of bad one
 
well it's mainly to have features like banning
so people who abuse the bot can be stopped
the kitten still needs some funny lines for browsers and other things
!kitten eval
oh that's not fixed, have to restart the kitten
!kitten answer to life
It needs to be able to post some helpful things
like explaining equality, prototypes etc.
 
9:05 AM
!kitten jstypes
!kitten jsforin
 
It doesn't work.
 
I see that
question is why doesn't it work
!kitten jstruth
!kitten jstruth
too long -.-
!kitten jstypes
 
bost ?
 
typos ftw
!kitten jstruth
I'll set these to auto delete after 1:50
 
9:37 AM
!kitten down? google.com
uh would be helpful if you send the request
 
there are channels to test bots :)
 
@NickCraver I know :P disappears
 
Even more if it isn't a @NickCraver one
 
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from time warner: "You should know this is not the first time Sinclair has used blackout threats to force television service providers to pay higher programming fees. Last year, they had a similar dispute with another cable company. Eventually, every TV provider, including DIRECTV, DISH Network, AT&T U-verse and Verizon FiOS, could be threatened with broadcaster blackouts – so switching is not a solution."
....yeah? Well it's my solution, Direct TV in 10 days, woohoo!
 
what are you talking about ?
 
9:51 AM
US TV providers are having it out atm, trying to raise fees, etc for others to carry their stations, email from all sides spamming everyone
 
hi guise
how do I write multiline code here. what's the wrapper?
 
indent by 4 spaces, or use that fixed with button besides upload(appears when one input multiple lines)
 
@TomWilde You copy/type in the code, then press the fixed font button that appears
 
Uncaught TypeError: Object function (){
	this.load=function(reqdata){
		$.ajax({
			url:'xhr/getjobs.php',
			data:reqdata,
			type:'GET',
			dataType:'json',
			success:function(air){
				console.log(air);
			}
		});
	};
} has no method 'load'
works :D
how why the fuck is this happening?
and did you all watch the google live-stream about chrome and chrome OS, appmarket and CR-48 yesterday?
 
10:09 AM
So Mozilla dropped WebSocket due to security issues with mis-configured proxies?
 
no idea... but you might find this interesting
http://www.google.com/chromeos/pilot-program-cr48.html
if you haven't you can apply to test-run a google OS driven netbook for free
 
But does it run Crysis?
 
haha well depends
it runs a linux kernel
if crysis runs on linux then yeah =]
and there's a "jailbreak" swith under the battery
so you can install any OS once you had it
@IvoWetzel any idea on the error I posted further up?
 
first guess, the caller isn't what it's supposed to be
is that in an anonymous callback?
 
how come?
 
10:18 AM
I mean, the outmost function where is that defined?
 
ok I'll try to make it graphic ^^ one sec
var foobar={
	'one':function(){
		foobar.two.load();
	},
	'two':function(){
		//im the function causing trouble
	}
};
 
$("btnHiddenClick").click(); is not triggering the button event
 
@TomWilde Uh yeah, foobar is not an instance, so this refers to window
 
@SriKumar Because there's no such element as btnHiddenClick?
 
@YiJiang No it has
 
10:20 AM
@IvoWetzel hmm lemme check
 
<asp:Button ID="btnHiddenClick" OnClick="PopulateLabel" runat="server" Visible="false" />
$("btnHiddenClick").click();
 protected void PopulateLabel(object sender, EventArgs e)
    {
        lblText.Text = "Hello";
    }
 
@SriKumar $('#btnHiddenClick')
 
@SriKumar use the #id selector
 
$('#btnHiddenClick').click(); is not working
 
@SriKumar If you need to trigger PopulateLabel, then why not just call the function directly?
 
10:28 AM
@YiJiang that's a server-side function ;)
 
@IvoWetzel wait what no websockets in ff4?
 
@NickCraver Eh... erm... okay
 
@SriKumar Visible="false" means it won't render in the page at all, look at your markup to see this :)
also, depending on where it's located, the ID may have a prefix...if it were rendered that is
 
@Raynos Yep, disabled by default, now they're waiting for a new version...
@Raynos All because some wrong configured proxies could allow for poisoning
 
@YiJiang Yes but I want to open a dialog box and on clicking OK in dialog box I need to call the C#
 
10:29 AM
@IvoWetzel links. "new version" as in when the html5 websocket spec changes?
 
@Raynos Wonder when they drop http support, I mean that's as unsecure as it gets
 
not true, SSL
 
@SriKumar Ask @NickCraver, who unlike me, actually knows C# and ASP.NET
 
Websockets won't connect the same way ;)
 
10:30 AM
@NickCraver There's no S in my HTTP
 
@YiJiang Thanks :)
 
HTTPS != SSL
common misconception
 
@IvoWetzel Yes visibility is the problem here
 
https is generally TLS these days
 
@NickCraver Well they use the upgrade header but some broken proxies treat the stuff afterwards as single requests
 
10:31 AM
right, it's not so much of a user to server security issue, though you could view it in that light
it's the proxy serving a request that wasn't yours, cached by another
 
wonder how they want to fix that (besides dropping the http backend)
 
@NickCraver is there any way to over come this? I need to show a jQuery dialog box and if user click OK, I need to call the c# function
 
@Sri - As I commented earlier, Visible="false" means the button isn't even rendering in the output, there's nothing for the JavaScript to click
you need style="display: none;" rather than Visible="false" to hide it
 
@NickCraver Cool Thanks :)
 
welcome...also look at your markup when it renders, the ID may have a prefix
either use $('<%=btnHiddenClick.ClientID %>') or an ID ends with or...yeah whatever just make sure you're selecting what you want :)
 
10:34 AM
@NickCraver Yes I did that and found it OK. It works now thanks again! :)
 
@NickCraver Do you have time to answer my another question?
 
a few min, gotta drive 100 miles soon :)
 
@NickCraver What is the diff b/w Linkbutton and Button? considering the postback
 
yay more form fields and keypress updates goodness
 
10:37 AM
daaah I'm so hungry
 
@NickCraver Page.RegisterRequiresPostBack can only be called on controls that implement IPostBackDataHandler is the error I got when i tried with Button t
 
!kitten nickcraver
 
man that thing has so many typos :P
 
!kitten say Woof woof, actually I'm a ninja coding doggy !
 
@IvoWetzel its supposed to makea funny joke :(
 
10:39 AM
@Raynos Guess you're missing a space there
 
!kitten say I iz teh lolcat! :D
 
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hey guise! anybody want some swiss chocolate :D
nomnomnom
 
7 mins ago, by Chouchenos
daaah I'm so hungry
@TomWilde it means, I hate you now.
 
:D that's the cool part about working in switzerland yay
and they have awesome swiss bacon ¬
^¬^
 
10:49 AM
@Chouchenos So I shouldn't tell you about those Tortellini?
 
@IvoWetzel Gaaaaaaaah >___<
 
@IvoWetzel /al dente/ :D
so where do you guys werk?
 
@IvoWetzel: where is the craverbot or crockbot ? :p
 
11:04 AM
theres a kitten
 
lets push this, already githubbed ?
 
head over to the sandbox
 
"no such interface supported" What's IE8 complaining about now?
what options do I have for an isZero check? parseInt("0a") would return true. Is string.test(/0+\.?0*/) sufficient ?
 
11:22 AM
@Raynos: in general, the "+" cast is the most convinent method for that
var foo = "0a"; alert(+foo); would return NaN
 
@jAndy quick stress test claims + is good.
 
+ or Number() is almost always better than parseInt.
 
@jAndy don't use alert(+foo); please, console.assert(+foo === 0, "foo is not zero")
 
@AndyE: I guess the creators of parseInt() thought it's a good idea because a string like "55px" comes along pretty often in javascript
anyway, it's pretty evil :p
 
parseInt is one of those misunderstood functions, everyone thinks that its purpose is to convert a decimal string (e.g. "55") to a number, but really it is for extracting numbers with different bases from the start of a string.
 
11:27 AM
@Raynos: you're right, I should start to just assume everybody around here has firebug installed
 
@jAndy: even then I prefer +"55px".slice(0,-2) :-p
 
@jAndy or chrome
 
@AndyE: but you can't know if it's "55px" or "55pt" or whatever
if you just want the number, I guess that was the reason for implementing parseInt() the way it is
 
@jAndy: I was kidding, really. I would use parseInt. But 55px and 55pt aren't the same, so you probably shouldn't be guessing.
It's just one of those things that irks me, many people recommend parseInt for getting numbers out of user input and it's just not a good idea because it can lead to unexpected results.
 
console.notifyFirebug What is that supposed to do?
 
11:30 AM
yes, it's pretty bad and alien after all
@Raynos: console.notifyFirebug.toString();
 
toSource()
 
toSource() ignores all linefeeds/breaks for me
 
Why dont I know about document.createEvent :\
 
you don't want to know
 
@Raynos: lol I'm looking at it too
 
11:34 AM
implementation differences etc...
> Second one is node.js because everybody understand Javascript
 
I discovered console.dir & console.count today
@IvoWetzel is the node console the same as the browser one?
console.dir(console) (chrome) == console.dir(console) (node) ?
 
@Raynos Chrome.console !== Firebug.console !== Every other console
W3C, irrc, plans on standardizing the console object...
 
Why wont my tables align like the one under it, i have same width specified on the same td classes as below
 
Yes, chrome is awesome, not
Everyone did see that blog post about there new JIT magic? "uhhhh so much faster in our own benchmark"
I see a 20% performance loss...
speaking about premature-micro-optimization, has jsperf bin fixed? :/
 
@IvoWetzel im only asking whether the chrome console is part of v8 thus also in node
 
11:46 AM
@Raynos Chrome is only an engine
 
@IvoWetzel Don't get me started on how Chrome "supports" the new date-time related HTML5 input types
 
The console is part of WebKit
 
Damn IEblog, when's beta 2 coming? We want Web Workers, dammit!
 
Why wont my tables align like the one under it, i have same width specified on the same td classes as below

jsfiddle.net/79jH6
What is wrong anyone?
 
@Karem: that's a HTML issue, this is JavaScript chat. While it's OK to ask HTML questions here, you might have better luck trying the main site where people can be appropriately rewarded for helping you.
 
12:00 PM
sick stuff, you can really simulate keyboard, mouse, dom & html events by using createEvent & dispatchEvent
 
@AndyE do we really want web workers more then web sockets?
 
@Karem: quickly glancing at your code it appears you're setting width on each cell. Use a <col> element for each column, nested in a <colgroup> element and apply the width to the <col> instead.
 
user492203
Hi, all!
 
@karem here's an example of what I mean: jsfiddle.net/AndyE/QrUj9
 
user492203
!kitten say hello
 
12:06 PM
The Stackoverflow chat is pretty neat. I wonder if it uses Long Polling to retrieve messages, or simply interval every sec :op
 
@Raynos I do, but that's because I have no use for Web Sockets right now.
 
user492203
@JónTraustiArason I think it's using Ajax, or isn't it?
 
@JónTraustiArason it's polling every second.
@Nyuszika7H Long polling is still Ajax
 
Yes, it is definitely using Ajax. I'm just wondering what method they use to check for new messages.
@AndyE Ahh okay, did you check yourself? :)
 
user492203
12:09 PM
@AndyE Sorry, I don't know much about Ajax, only that chats like this use Ajax.
 
Opera disables them too
All because some idiots out there happen to have some broken proxies >_>
 
@JónTraustiArason nah, but I've been hanging around chat since the early betas, so it was discussed a lot :-)
 
Any one wanna bet on how bad the "solution" with the new protocol will be? :P
 
Okay cool. I'm thinking about implementing a chat like this instead of using my current flash client. I was afraid that 1 sec interval for every user could slow my web server due to all the http requests.
 
@JónTraustiArason: you should be afraid ;-)
 
12:15 PM
@AndyE the link you provided didnt fix the issue
@AndyE sorry for being late answering
 
@Karem: I was just providing it as an example - it fixed the problem for me in Chrome. Like I said before, you'll get better answers asking on the main site :-)
 
@AndyE Yeah I'd probably go with long polling, but the confusing part of long polling is the server-side part. I wouldn't want to pause the incoming request thread until some data is available.
 
@AndyE Oh okay, not here in FF. I did already make a question here: stackoverflow.com/questions/4381849/html-css-table-text-align
 
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Q: HTML/CSS: Table text align

KaremI have this: http://jsfiddle.net/bDTRz/ I wish to make it all look the same no matter the content(i think i need width, but i do not know where). I did width: 100% on all the tables. Because if you see "Idag" you'll see how the text is different from "old". This is because the td in the columns...

 
Yes, thats the one :-)
 
12:20 PM
Have a good day.
 
@Karem: OK, it looks like none of the answers helped much. I'll take a look in a short while and see if I can get Firefox to play ball
@JónTraustiArason you too :-)
 
@AndyE appreciate
 
user492203
12:35 PM
0
A: .toFixed(2) not working?

rahulTry $('#fee').val(parseFloat($('#amount').val() * .035).toFixed(2)); Rearranged the brackets

 
user492203
Another user who does not accept answers :/
 
$('#fee').val(parseFloat($('#amount').val() * .035).toFixed(2)); Doesn't anyone else spot the issue with that? :-p
Specifically, this part: parseFloat($('#amount').val() * .035)
 
1:02 PM
@IvoWetzel where are my sockets! RAGE
@JónTraustiArason why cant we just lovely websockets :(. Two way TCP stream and just shoot data down it
Can I connect to the internet with my radio?
 
Please support *Bring back the 'oldest' sort order for answers* by adding your vote, thanks.
6
^ pinned to get some visibility. I'm fed up of the 'active' sort order.
 
@AndyE abusing powers for personnel gain
 
@Raynos I'm sure the personnel won't mind.
 
@AndyE Hehe... :P
 
*personal gain
 
user492203
1:18 PM
@AndyE I can't :( I have only 1 rep on Meta.SO
 
@Nyuszika7H link it :P +100 rep for linking to SE account
 
oh, "personal gain". Oh yeah I don't give a crap about that. I'll abuse the hell out of my powers, that's what they're there for.
 
hey all!
 
Hi @Opoe :-)
 
hi @AndyE :)
is it okay to post as many questions as you like on stack overflow, because i feel kind of guilty :')
Allthough im doing it to learn from and for others with the same problem
 
1:23 PM
@AndyE did you find out
 
1:37 PM
@Opoe as long as typing the question title into google doesnt solve your problem yes. If there good questions go ahead. If your making someone else do your simple research for you, you probably want to cool it.
 
No i understand thats annoying.
So if you try it for yourself first a thousand times/the question can't be fount or better the answer cant be found :p its okay? Because im new here but ive already learnt so much from answers
 
@Opoe: Stack Overflow is intended to be a huge resource for programming questions. As long as your question is written well and people can see that you've put your own efforts in, you don't have to feel guilty :-)
 
thats a good one :)
 
@Karem: the first column needs a larger width in Firefox, 70px-ish.
 
@AndyE the first only?
@AndyE and what class width? there are 3
 
1:42 PM
Okay thanks guys for clearing that up ;)
good day
 
@Karem this is the updated fiddle: jsfiddle.net/QrUj9/1
 
@AndyE wiiee
@AndyE explain what you did
 
Apart from "It's less shit then IE8" Is there anything good to look forward to in IE9 ?
 
@Karem: I created a <colgroup> element with 3 <col> children, gave each one a class and specified the widths for those classes.
I have a real disdain for formatting tables in HTML, it's such a pain.
 
@AndyE ooh
 
1:45 PM
@Raynos: ECMAScript 5 support, faster JS, HTML5, CSS3 ?
 
@AndyE thank you!!.. could you check if it looks good in chrome too?
 
@Karem: I did, it does.
np :-)
 
@AndyE thank you, im going home schools done, glad it got solved! Have a good day
Bye
 
no worries, c ya.
 
@AndyE is a hero.
 
1:49 PM
@AndyE All of those are nice but compared to chrome 7 IE9 is still lacking. I mean from a user point of view rather then a developer. its nice from a developer point of view because the marketshare of IE8 will drop by like 60% in a month or so
@Karem you can just dl chrome & FF
 
@Raynos: I dunno. Maybe it will. I think IE 9 is shaping up so far, as long as they don't announce the final release and boot it out the door tomorrow.
 
@AndyE Sell me web workers and why I want to use them :)
 
@Raynos Sure, $20 a pop. You've got to pay them by the hour though. Labor is cheap in China.
 
@Raynos: the need for Workers is something that may or may not arise for you. They are useful to me for fetching and looping across large sets of data in a non-blocking manner without resorting to timers.
 
2:08 PM
Why cant IE do something sensible like print NaN instead of -1.#IND
 
@Raynos: huh?
 
@Raynos: When does it do that?
 
`+"0y 3m" in IE8 console
@AndyE I'm in node mode and would say just chuck it round the eventloop rather then spawning web workers
 
heh, IE 8's console is really annoying.
I much prefer webkit's over Firebug, IE8 and Opera's.
 
@AndyE it doesnt behave like a js console
 
2:21 PM
@Raynos: I think JavaScript entered into IE's console is executed in a special manner. I built a console for IE instances that don't have access to the dev tools recently and it turned out to be quite tricky. I have a feeling that MS probably wrote something in at the backend for evaluating JS in the global scope and getting a return value from it.
 
2:43 PM
hey all
stackoverflow.com/questions/4388443/… - what's the real answer here? Changing the "onclick" to explicitly reference "window.click()" makes it work ...
 
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