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2:00 PM
no
 
looks legit
 
is that a whatsapp clone? :D
 
The description tells you more about it :D
 
2:08 PM
look at the description o_O
 
yes I saw that, it's for referencing it :D
 
and 100k+ people have installed it....
 
no not searching for a new place
 
lmao and google says we dont 10k things to make playstore safe
 
100.000 - 500.000
 
2:13 PM
@TimCastelijns Development
Years in a job which paid you in which you did development as part of your duties
 
15 months
 
> Peek is available on App Store and we don't give a single fuck about Google Play Store, yet.
:D
 
lol
 
wat
 
2:21 PM
@MuratK. wait wtf it's been removed already??
 
that was too slow
 
Yeah it got posted on reddit
 
@MehdiB. only iphone. lost any interest.
 
same :D
 
Tim - Yeah, at 15 months you probably just have to take the punishment :P
 
2:36 PM
at what age you become a senior? :P
5y? 10y?
 
for being lactose intolerant, cats sure love dairy...
 
in the bureaucratic system, at around 7
 
cats are lactose intolerant?
 
in the skills-based system, as soon as you rock and are completely independant to get the work done
 
my ice cream lover cat loves it.
 
2:38 PM
they are
don't give them too much milk
 
meh he just gets small tiny bits of ice icream from time to time
 
Most mammals are lactose intolerant when they're old enough right?
 
but I have been with this company 3 years and have mostly been the only developer
 
not sure about that graeme
 
and always the only fulltime employee
 
2:39 PM
Humans evolved to not be when first made the move away from hunter gatherers
 
@Graeme most humans are too
30% aren't
 
That's blatantly untrue :P
 
either that or tha 30% is very closely located
 
Or else there would be 70% lactose free milk at Starbucks
 
Lactose intolerance is a condition in which people have symptoms due to the decreased ability to digest lactose, a sugar found in milk products. Those affected vary in the amount of lactose they can tolerate before symptoms develop. Symptoms may include abdominal pain, bloating, diarrhea, gas, and nausea. These typically start between one half and two hours after drinking milk or eating milk products. Severity depends on the amount a person eats or drinks. It does not cause damage to the gastrointestinal tract. Lactose intolerance is due to not enough of the enzyme lactase in the small intestines...
10% in Europe, 95% Afirca/Asia
 
2:40 PM
> The number of people with lactose intolerance is unknown.
 
lactose intolerant doesn't mean you die if you drink a glass of milk
it just means gas
 
yeah, but again
95% africa/asia?
 
Since it's a "new" evolution in terms of humanity, I imagine non agrarian societies have a higher incidence of lactose intolerance.
 
@CptEric read the sidebar
 
still
well dunno too different cultures to judge
 
2:42 PM
if just those two stats are averaged, the percentage is ~52%
 
It seems very western centric to consider the term "Lactose Intolerant"
 
98% of statistics say statistics lie.
 
nice paradox Eric
 
And frames a lack of what is normal. Maybe westerners should instead be "Lactose Tolerant"
 
if i have two cows and you have 0 wanderer, we all have 1.
lactose intolerant should only be used on zones where lactose was a thing
 
2:44 PM
@Graeme yeah it's weird that it's called that, but I think it's because we found out people were allergic to milk, and then found that more and more and more and more were too
 
allergy != intolerance
 
^
 
I know
 
gluten allergy is a thing. gluten intolerance is not
 
but I wanted to get that message out quickly
and I couldn't think of another word lol
 
2:45 PM
then again, it's just like saying... hum... parrot intolerant
 
gluten intolerance is definitely a thing, just not how you might think
 
and stating that countries without parrots as diet average those that don't
 
what
 
> if just those two stats are averaged, the percentage is ~52%
those cultures that have never used animal milk with lactose as basis for a diet should not be counted
just like people without computer don't count in browser usage.
 
where did the lactose topic came from?
 
2:47 PM
or abstentionists in elections
 
why not though Eric?
 
because it was never a thing they grew tolerancy for
 
^
 
and basically everyone has milk available now, so it seems to make sense that we'd count them too
 
2:48 PM
I think they count as Lactose Intollerant... Since they're lactose intolerant
 
it shouldn't matter how they got to be lactose intolerant; they still are
 
give me supreme control on those regions, a big herd of cows and 6 generations and we'll see those stats.
wait that was too Raghav.
beep boop
 
to me, it sounds like you're saying, in a study to average the amount of melanin in humans, we shouldn't count Norwegians, because they didn't evolve with a lot of sun
 
what i say is they shouldn't be counted as global stats.
so yes, norwegian melanine levels shoudn't add to world's average stats
 
but how can we make global stats if we don't include the global population?
those are horribly skewed statistics
 
2:51 PM
they're skewed anyway if we add them
 
"we found the average melanin content of humans in the world is 90% because we only counted people of direct African descent"
^ that makes no sense
 
#room15 discussions
3
 
XD
 
it does make sense if you localize global stats
it doesn't make sense to make just global averages
you'll never get any usable data from global stats without proper local contextes
 
2:52 PM
when was the last time we talked about something remotely related to android?
 
on Google IO
 
we often discuss how most of us don't do android anymore
 
if we sum everyone's cash then divide it by the world population, we're all good on cash.
 
mehdi edited
 
how's that useful?
 
2:54 PM
@CptEric now that isn't the same thing at all
 
yearly derivative revenue is 10 quadrillions
divided by 8 thousand millions
 
I'm talking about a percentage here, not an amount
 
it's 125K/y
 
we could find the average number of people who make the equivalent of $20k USD in a year
which would be more comparable to my stat
 
but as we didn't take in count their region's averages
it'll look like veryone is fine
 
2:56 PM
no because the percentage is around 70%
 
and while someone in USA might starve with 25k, someone in spain is over the average, and someone in mali is bathing in cash.
 
@CptEric but that's not the point
 
my point is that global unlocalized sats have no value
 
it's just a stat that's interesting to know
@CptEric yes they do. Because of increasing globalization, I know that there's a good chance that ~70% of the people I know have some form of lactose intolerance
 
now, "70% workers of the world's richest nations*1 make 25K or less" is an interesting and usable stat
but that's actually false
 
2:58 PM
 
because if 90% of the people you know is from euroslavic origin, that stat is off by some magnitudes
 
but what if they're not?
it's a useful baseline stat
 
^me RN.
 
I'm not sure Eric understands stats...
 
good stats require a context to be useful.
 
2:59 PM
... No... stats don't require meaning.
 
I don't think you realize that ^
 
Stats are stats.
 
CF just coming in the the occasional ^
 
You need be careful what meaning you pull from stats, but that doesn't change them.
 
3:01 PM
80% of the time I'm 100% right about stats being made up
 
^
 
Data and Information are different. Data is a measurement. Information is data with meaning. Stats are data not information.
 
do i need to write the lies and stats line again
 
it's a really good resource about statistics
and with nice real world explanations
 
3:02 PM
> One in every 8 South Africans is HIV positive.
wtf
 
again our data sciense teacher told us that data without a meaning is as useless as faking a girlfriend. You're only lying to yourself and one of your hands.
and i pretty much agree with him
 
Eric - That's true. But that doesn't change that data is data.
 
@CptEric maybe it is, but it still exists
 
You can't change the data to give it meaning
 
> Like most people, you probably feel that it is important to "take control of your life." But what does this mean? Partly, it means being able to properly evaluate the data and claims that bombard you every day. If you cannot distinguish good from faulty reasoning, then you are vulnerable to manipulation and to decisions that are not in your best interest. Statistics provides tools that you need in order to react intelligently to information you hear or read.
faulty reasoning is the important part here
 
3:04 PM
well i'm more of the line of don't have meaningless data by start.
 
we're not doing anything with this data though
also
do I have enough QQS?
 
else all you have is "how many people does Jack Nicholson kills during his movie premieres? click now to discover"
QQS?
 
Quick QuickSetting
the tiles
 
lol
wtf
 
lol
 
3:07 PM
All data is meaningless / all data is meaningful
 
damn you and your red shaman skills.
 
My who what?
Are we talking MTG, FF or ..?
 
wait did you bring your larp stuff to canada?
 
Nope, I have a box at my friends place with my LARP kit, tent, sleeping bags etc :)
So when I get back to the UK i can grab it and go
 
you should mail it to yourself
you'll freak your neighbours
i'm sure some of my new neighbors have already had a semi heart attack when i open my locker room
lol
 
3:20 PM
That PDF makes me realise I don't try to do things I don't think I'll succeed doing...
 
lol
 
meta failures
LOL
 
@SaQada Welcome back...again. You know about those --> room-15.github.io
Shit, request again if you're still around.
Someone pushed the wrong button
 
is that someone called CM?
 
wow
 
3:29 PM
yeah
 
what a scrub
 
Of course not, Captain, don't be silly. I don't make mistakes
 
@Graeme you been back to the UK since you left?
 
The cat stepped on the keyboard
 
@codeMagic You can add by user ID
 
3:32 PM
@codeMagic uh huh
 
do you even have a cat?
 
o/ cM
 
yo, CF
 
nice photos on fb
 
3:34 PM
thanks :)
 
lol your kids got crazy there
 
they usually are
hence my high blood pressure :P
 
Mark - Nah, we're coming back for three weeks in September
I'm thinking about taking a day off around now though, I'm shattered. Could do with a day in the sun.
 
sun in UK?
better go murcia. or murica.
 
Very sunny here :)
Toronto is on the same latitude as Barcelona
 
3:45 PM
hmmm?
 
@codeMagic lol
 
it's half a france away @Graeme
 
@Graeme ew 3 weeks :|
 
Not a long distance in a global perspective though :P
 
Do you miss anything from the UK Graeme?
 
3:46 PM
it's a lot when temperature related
 
Mark - We're hoping after 3 week in UK we'll be convinced that staying here in Canada is a good idea ;)
I miss LARP, Friends and Family
 
LARP?
wow that is live game
 
Imagine if Paintball and Medieval Reenactment had a baby
 
That sounds cool
I miss family and friends from NI, that's all really
Well that and some of the food in NI
 
Much better for in Toronto - It's super multi cultural so all the same stuff is available here.
Not seen any black pudding yet
 
3:50 PM
Do yourself a favour and pop down to Belfast for a Boojum (if you like Mexican food), best Mexican food EVER
 
now I'm hungry :D
 
I need food
pls
 
i have leftover chinese food waiting for me
 
gim
 
i have no food at home
gonna go outside to eat
 
3:58 PM
I was going to make a vegetarian joke but you beat me to it
 
XD
 
time to go
 
see ya
 
cya
 
cyan
 
4:01 PM
magenta
 
yellow
 
argh, skype for linux is eating 16,0% of the cpu. ┻━┻ ︵ ¯(ツ)/¯ ︵ ┻━┻
 
magneto
 
magento
magneto's pink bro.
 
user443346
4:19 PM
@netpork Use hangouts
 
it is company policy to use skype. i am using hangouts for private chats
 
user443346
meh
 
hey guys
as a new grad I got my first android dev offer! they want to make an interview with me, what questions should I expect to get?
 
@McAdam331 time to make more spam about that interviewing book
the only time i've done an interview i was expected to solve some simple issues with pseudocode, list my skills, and define some simple concepts
aced it, but denied the job offer
too much responsability
 
respect
 
4:25 PM
best tip i can give: keep your feet on the ground, accurately describe yourself, sell yourself as what you are and what you want to be
 
Best tip I can give: Lie your face off, describe what you think you can be / be exactly who they want you to be and worry about if you can achieve it once you get the offer.
 
@Graeme -_-
 
Lol, what?
 
That's a realistic Advice
You're destroying TheWanderer's optimism :D
 
Optimism? What is this Opto-Misum. I'm a developer, I deal in cynicism and tears.
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4:33 PM
haha! :D
 
damn you
 
Weirdly I almost always get offered jobs I interview for :P
 
if the guy ends up as CTO of apple, you're the one in fault for the new Iface
 
And I've only been fired for gross misconduct twice
 
> gross misconduct
who did you flip off?
 
4:37 PM
what did you do? :D
 
o:)
You'll neeeeeever know
Well, Eric probably will, but that's only because he's on FB
 
hahaha!
 
meanwhile, at HM's private office, Buckinham palace...
 
Two be fair, in both instances, totally not my fault.
 
damn you, Graeme castle!! ~HM
 
4:38 PM
:o Queeny would never say that about me.
 
i don't know why but i imagined you saying that with a tea cup on one hand
i'm rewatching doctor who again
i'm on capaldi's first season episode 4
 
lol
 
user443346
@Graeme Golden.
 
Urgh, Capaldi :P
Urgh, Mofat
 
tennant was the best imho
Eccleston was awesome too
wait you don't like Doctor Who and you're from UK? now i know what gross misconduct you commited.
 
4:56 PM
I love Doctor Who
Just not the rubbish ones
 
oh ok
 
"Computers cannot create random numbers therefore all computer characters would always say the same random number at the same time". Shut up Moffat.
 
calls 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 to remove denounce
 
:)
you create a new local branch based off remote with git checkout -t remote/branch ?
 
git checkout the_original_branch
git checkout -b the_new_branch
then push it if you wanna make it remote
 
5:03 PM
what does -b do?
 
it creates the branch
 
git branch name && git checkout name is same as git checkout -b name
 
the first checkout is to position you on the original branch, the second is to create the new branch based on the current
 
so git checkout x creates a headless branch
and git checkout -b x links the local branch to the remote branch?
No, now I just have a headless local branch :P
I needed my original command :P
 
@Graeme no it just creates a branch and checks it out
 
5:07 PM
commands that i know how to use in depth in git = {};
 
Tim is the git expert here
 
I think you link it with --set-upstream or something
 
i know of
 
386
Q: Git create a branch from another branch

revohsalfI have 2 branches : master and dev I want to create a "feature branch" from the dev branch Currently On branch dev, I do : $ git checkout -b myfeature dev ... (some work) $ git commit -am "blablabla" $ git push origin myfeature but, after visualizing my branches, I got: --**master*...

 
git will tell you if you don't have it linked and you're trying to push
 
5:07 PM
Yeah, -t makes it track when you branch :P
 
does someone know some PHP Server direct-link-ban techniques? I am trying to access an image through the api, but my request gets rejected. If i try it through chrome browser, i get the image. Is it something about Request/Response headers? Content types?
 
I've had to manually track with Mehdi's commands
 
I don't know what do I search for to get around this
 
Oh well, done now.
 
don't worry about it
if you can't push anything, you cannot introduce bugs
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5:09 PM
great graeme \o/
 
Tim XD
 
some people are more productive if you just let them play around locally
 
Tim regarding your comment that you cant afford to be without salary for 1 month try saving some money every month that will help you afterwards if you have to leave job situation arise
 
can't save money currently
 
just a thought came to my mind
why though?
 
5:12 PM
got to pay the bills
 
bills are that costly?
 
Can't save if you don't earn more than what you need to live
 
2 hours ago, by codeMagic
@SaQada Welcome back...again. You know about those --> http://room-15.github.io/
Why is the bot rejecting him? :D
 
decrease somethings you daily do. Like, eat less food, just a suggestion
 
bills are costly by definition
 
5:14 PM
i mean compared to what you earn
 
> Can't save if you don't earn more than what you need to live
 
it is just a bit tight until my girlfriend graduates and starts working
 
^my motto
 
oh
 
I get by fine
but I cannot just move around jobs
anyway going to the gym, bye
 
5:15 PM
bye
 
bye
 
Bye Tim!
 
@Graeme that is true
rupin how is your camera going on playstore?
 
@SaQada you really have write access this time
1 message moved to Trash
 
its awesome
I haven't released it yet for normal users
 
5:26 PM
still not why?
 
I got only two crashes this month so far.
I am not sure.
 
how many users?
 
how do you check that?
I never finish my projects :/
 
if you have only 2 users then 2 crashes are a lot
if 100 its not bad
 
oh, no. lol. I used to get around 5 crashes per day.
then, I supported some oppo, gionee, micromax devices
now, i am fine.
But, sony has some stamina mode, its killing my app as soon as it starts
and, Redmi and YU has some problems too, but these are hidden from user
 
5:36 PM
i see
 

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