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12:16 AM
I'm tired of your shit good advices Dave
 
12:28 AM
@DaveS That would be rare
Oh, fragments...yeah don't use them. They were constructed by the devil
But have a star, Dave, 'cause fragments
But this is still my favorite Ah, so many memories
OK, I'm done
 
have fun there cM?
 
I did, actually
I haven't had as much time lately to come in here and harass everyone so I was trying to make up for it. I feel slightly better
 
1:30 AM
I wish I could show you our code @codeMagic ..
Regarding Fragments
I have a Fragment that has about 10 other fragments in it.
I also have a fragment whose only function is to be autocomplete textedit.
 
ahhhhhhhhhh!
 
Today I wanted to chage title of one button in this mess of fragments and I had to give up.
 
You can still go deeper
A fragment for each char in a String
 
 
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3:06 AM
o/
 
 
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6:20 AM
heyy guys
Good morning
 
7:03 AM
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A: Store an Object that has a List<Object> and a string, inside a SQLiteDatabase

CptEricjust like you would do if you had to insert it manually, two database tables, with a common identifier, that are related (Pk's and Fk's) so you can later get back the information. you fill the first table with a string and a identifier (or it could be autonumeric) ,retrieve the max(identifier) ...

./me when i got technical
 
Gooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!! :D
 
morningo
 
Good morning
 
Buenos días
amigo
 
7:27 AM
Good afternoon from here
 
7:38 AM
good morning
 
buenos dias bhargav :P
 
@Mauker yes
 
 
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8:45 AM
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9:07 AM
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9:21 AM
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9:36 AM
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\o
 
Maniacs at work
I wonder how we would greet each other in real life....
 
waving hand in the air hiya!!!!
 
warren: "I have read and understood the rules"
 
HAHA exactly my style :D
 
any affiliation with lineage the game?
 
not what i'd expect on a OS about
 
yeah, obviously they think that everybody are aware of the fact they are cyanogenmod successor
 
10:40 AM
@JavaFan sorry but your Q:A ratio is bad. You need at least 4:3. Details can be found in our rules: room-15.github.io
 
Anyone here know of any custom views which are on GitHub? Would like to look into one which scales the custom views depending on the screen size
 
scaling based on size is done by density independent pixels system
and you have to override the onMeasure()
to handle wrap_content correctly
 
You know that there is a percent support lib? You define the percentage and it scales accordingly
 
:O
That would make things a lot easier!
 
is there since ages :D
 
10:51 AM
does that not work similar to weights?
 
Weights are good but in my case when I don't know how many buttons I'll need it's a bit tricky
 
yes Tim
but there is a PercentageRL
while wieghts can only be used with LL
 
Percentage also supports aspect ratio which is cool to make sure you always have a square or the banner is always 16:9 or so
@RaviVaghela you meet our requirements but your answers and questions suggest that you are not a good fit for this room. Most of your answers are code only answers with barely even a sentence to it and your latest question is a bunch of code thrown at the reader with the request to "search if I am missing something". So, no I will not let you in. Sorry
 
@WarrenFaith do you know what's the min version of Android which is supported with this library?
 
11:06 AM
I guess 7, yes
but even if 13, you shouldn't go deeper than 15 nowadays :D
 
Wait, is there any way I could set layout_widthPercent programmatically?
 
I'll cry if I have to go below 21
 
If I'm creating views within my code, could I specify layout_widthPercent there?
 
Tim :D
Mark check there maybe methods for that
 
Would it show in the docs? Since you're setting properties for child views?
 
11:23 AM
Weird
I can't get anything which I set app:layout_widthPercent="20%" to show
 
is the % required?
 
11:35 AM
Wait, yes. I misunderstood what you were asking!
 
@SwarupRajbhandari sorry but you need at least 80 reputation to talk here. Details can be found in our rules: room-15.github.io
 
It's odd because the button is showed in the preview but not when I launch the app
 
when you set the percentage, you have to remove the android:layout_width completely
 
Just from the child view? Does the parent view (peercentRelativeLayout) have to be match_parent for layout_width and layout_height?
 
the view that has app:layout_widthPercent
 
11:42 AM
yeah still doesn't show
 
unrelated: did you find a solution to the date problems?
 
have you enabled layoutbounds and/or given the PRL a color as a background to investigate the dimensions of the views?
 
@TimCastelijns yes! Turns out that our team were a bit confused about how ISO format worked and it was a simple solution
 
do enlighten me :)
it's been on my mind
 
@WarrenFaith what you mean layout bounds?
 
11:50 AM
developer options
there you can enable debug drawing of layout bounds
 
@TimCastelijns essentially from what I was told, the local time could be worked out by using the time in the ISO then do whatever the timezone offset was e.g. 11:03am +01:00 I thought was 12:03pm local time
turns out the timezone offset tells you how to get it to UTC and not how to convert it to local time
 
yes I thought we already knew that
 
so the local time was in fact 11.03
which meant there was no need to have the 'Z' in the SimpleDateFormat pattern
 
such a braintwister this date stuff
 
Yeah it would have helped if I had understood ISO format cause then I would have pointed out that our team was calculating local time wrong
 
11:55 AM
@MarkOSullivan94 you can convert is back by subtracting -1:00 cant you?
 
double negative
 
@WarrenFaith enabled layout bounds and it's only shows PRL if I have layout_width & layout_height and no layout_widthPercent
@ColdFire something like that I think (which I don't need, so I'm happy :D)
 
:)
 
12:25 PM
> Finsky : [1] com.google.android.finsky.wear.WearSupportService.a(307): Wear auto install disabled for package com.example
why the hell is that "disabled" and how the hell do I get it to install again
grrr
 
1:14 PM
so fucking great
and I will personally punish the Netherlands for saying that German is a fake language. You will pay for that!
 
Morning
 
moinsen
 
morning graeme
 
What's new peeps?
Had a town hall here yesterday where we talked about talent being so valuable, and having big plans and desires to get x and y and z done.
 
fighting wearable shit like yesterday
 
1:24 PM
And I was like, hurray, I am finally out of my funk. This is why I was so miserable, it's because what I want to do is do high level mobile design and functional decisions. I don't want to be on the ground floor
What wearables you playing with?
 
my own LG G and I try to get the wearable packaged and auto installed on my wear but I just manage to get it packed correctly
 
Watched it this morning warren, thought it was pretty funny
 
logcat states that "auto install" is disabled
 
I've not heard good things about wearable development...
So, tell me something, could you make an app that - for instance - displayed the time AND the time of another timezone right there on the front all the time?
 
that is just a watchface
so yes, of course you can
have not tested the app but I see no reasons why it shouldn't work
 
1:38 PM
I think I might try some wearable dev when I get a new smartwatch with Wear 2.0
Still to start some iOS dev
 
mark, no!
resist the temptation
 
Cool - thanks
 
I got a Macbook, might as well put it to some use
 
So you will using it for gaming as a mouse pad?
 
no no, I've only used it so I could work away from home / office so far and if I was watching a film with someone at mine
 
1:43 PM
lol Warren
 
mark which year version macbook?
2016 one or old?
 
2015 512GB SSD
 
aww nice ,13.3 inch?
 
you will not enjoy xcode on a 13" laptop :D
 
naah havent had a issue with my 13.3 inch
 
1:46 PM
15 inch
Would I need onDraw if I'm not drawing anything on the canvas for my custom view?
My custom view is essentially a layout which will allow me to add buttons to it
 
should be a ViewGroup
 
come again?
 
View is a View. ViewGroup is a container for child Views
a View cannot contain an other View
(as far as I know)
 
yes that is correct
object oriented programming right there
a view can also behave like a viewgroup
but doesnt mean that all views are viewgroups
meaning they have children
@MarkOSullivan94 yes you dont need to override onDraw but you wil need to propagate onLayout and other events properly to your children I think, not sure about that though, just take a look at Framelayout code
and you will probably have to create your own layout_params
 
1:59 PM
Okay so I can have a ClubSelectorButton view but to group many ClubSelectorButtons into a layout, I'd need a ViewGroup?
 
@Kumar sorry but you need at least 80 reputation to talk here. Details can be found in our rules: room-15.github.io
 
that is the general approach mark
 
yes^
 
Okay, I hope I can learn this quickly, been told a mid Feb public release for the app
Well that's what they want
 
not your concern
well it is, but it shouldn't be :(
 
2:18 PM
Your still in development of an app they want releasing in a few weeks? o.o
 
#ManagementThings
 
Yeah it's nearly finished just some issues which need fixing before release
they're demoing a demo build of the app all week at a golf conference in Florida
so customers who buy the product will be looking to use what they have at the show
 
Very cool to see that happen to your first solo project
 
Yeah it's pretty cool, just feel a bit under pressure to figure out how to fix these issues though
 
just pretend there is no deadline and take your time to understand what you are working with
in the end it is not your problem
 
2:44 PM
Anyone has configured module dependencies for flavor with each build types(debug/release)?
devCompile project(path: ':data', configuration: 'devDebug')
 
o/
 
I only can compile dev flavor against either devDebug or devRelease
 
\o mauker
 
o/ mauker
 
good news everyone
if my mouse ever arrives, it'll be free
someone lost it. somewhere between china and spain
so i was refunded
"if it ever arrives, consider it a gift from us"
<3
 
2:51 PM
lol nice
 
wish i had purchased something more expensive than a 2$ mouse
but heh
 
Mouse from china
 
Wish® app
 
give aliExpress the amazon offer feature and you get how it works
 
2:53 PM
I have this mouse, it's marvelous
 
i needed a cheapo mouse for the mac
was greeted by a 2$ offer
couldn't resist
 
wow 2$ is cheap
 
@TimCastelijns It's nice
 
@TimCastelijns guy in my office has the exact same mouse
I'm rocking a Logitech G502
 
It was like 80eu but well worth it
 
3:05 PM
o/
Anybody here have a good tutorial on how to use Android camera?
 
developer.android.com? :)
 
^
google samples?
 
LOL
 
3:10 PM
Doop
 
poop
 
roop
 
naybody having problems with safari and POST petitions?
safari mobile
 
3:10 PM
COMBO BREAKER DAMNIT ERIC
 
safari awww
 
ios safari
which is worse
 
may god steve jobs save your soul
 
is there any active ios dev chatroom?
 
Hello, Android!
 
3:13 PM
hello code
 
there are not sure about active
 
well, my phone is foobar...
 
hello CA
 
none of the apps will start from the launcher
strange thing is that I can start apps if there are alerts.
 
force close the launcher
 
3:15 PM
Woah
Member how I said there was a town hall yesterday and I had a huge amount of ideas and thoughts?
Just passed them up to the head of the team and he was really good at making me feel valued and that having new ideas and innovation was a good idea. But not only no, but there is no real way for ideas from this team to ever end up in the product.
Neither in terms of features or design.
 
interesting
yet odd
 
uhm
graeme, i'll need context
and coffe
 
I mean, to be fair, people warned me that this is what working with a bank is like.
But I knew it was an experience I needed to get for myself. Well, now I've gotten it :)
 
I can't find the launcher in the App Manager. I'll just power cycle for now.
 
pats graeme on the shoulder
 
3:22 PM
Hah, thanks, no problem. Just need to get another job. Not like this was my only option (or even my only confirmed offer).
 
You'll be leaving already?
 
good
 
Yup
My experience is over the full life cycle as project lead.
Working in a job where I am literally incapable of any input would destroy my experience moving further in my career.
 
glad that I have a black box colleague
he says nothing
I have no clue what he does during the day, all I see is youtube
 
Well looks like a custom view might not be necessary at all
 
3:28 PM
There are lots of developers that like being given a solution and then told to code it up. I'm just not one of them :P
 
that is not the case with him. I think he is literally demotivated as hell
quiet guy by character, has his opinion about solutions and how stuff should be done but he just fucking says nothing
 
Not sure what unit LayoutParams usually uses but you can use DIP for it which works a lot better and prevents the buttons from looking squished or too big
 
Sounds... like he's the guy who'll snap and kill you all?
 
asked him if he has a suggestion how to refactor something and he said: "no"
 
3:30 PM
lol
sounds like the typical is it 5pm yet guy
 
yeah, comes in 10-10:30, leaves for 60-90 min lunch and goes home latest 6pm
I was bad at math but that is not 8h of work
 
If he does work while he's there to a good standard, seems fine to me.
 
not in a startup where you have to be active
and I waste time to keep track of what he does
 
Are you his manager?
 
3:32 PM
is it your job to keep track of him?
 
Jinx
 
"best" thing he said was once asked about his progress on topic X: "I haven't done anything as I am blocked since 2 days"
I am the Android lead, so yes, my call
 
How did he get a job there?
 
3:33 PM
I heard he wasn't always this way
 
So something tragic happened and he was never the same?
 
is this an accurate representation of him
 
lol Tim
 
close but younger and russian :D
 
that guy looks frustated with his life, Tim
 
3:36 PM
if you don't know him, you must watch Office Space
must watch
 
checking....
 
lol
warren
that sounds like me in my last job
well, tbh, me, my coworkers, my manager...
 
my kitten plays with twisty ties, dum dum suckers, usb cords, shower curtain rings...everything EXCEPT the toy I got her.
 
back
 
yesterday she tried to run off with my keys
 
3:42 PM
#cats
if i had a dollar
:P
 
dum dum suckers?
 
all the times she curls up on my stomach or next to me make it all worth it.
 
Ours really enjoy the basement - for some reason
 
dum dums
 
ooh
chupachups
 
3:44 PM
popular in the U.S. Many banks give them out to customers and their kids.
 
here's chupachups.
 
somehow she got the wrapper off one and is playing with it.
 
hmmm... chupachups
 
@CptEric Same here
 
I threw the sucker away because I don't want to deal with the sticky mess.
 
3:46 PM
looks similar to lollipop in india. Our politician gives lollipop to people in our country...
 
@CptEric isnt that like lollipop?
 
not exactly.
 
just sort of caught up here, warren. I feel for you man, I left my last gig since my coworker was very similar to the one you have.
 
lots of different flavours, very taken care-of texture
it's a brand that started on barcelona in the 1910's
 
It's a gourmet lollipop
 
3:48 PM
average lollypops are more raw and less tasty
if that makes sense
 
aaaand they are more flat
 
remember that Roberto Carlos chupachups commercial
cringe
 
lol
don't remember it
 
"hey kid do you want a chupachups?"
"my mom doesn't allow it"
"let's go to your mom!"
"hey lady chupachups is very cool blabla"
"ok he can have one"
"yayy"
 
lol
 
3:56 PM
lol
 
4:34 PM
time to go~~
cya people!! :D
 
cya
 
o/
bye WOMP!
 
o/ carl
 
adam is not here , no lunch Time for him
 
4:43 PM
Jokes on you I've been lurking all day. Brb going down to the cafe now that Carl's here.
 
lol
 
4:55 PM
ugh.. still really sick today
sinus infection all weekend
 
Poor guy :/
Stomach feeling okay?
If so go get yourself some spicy food, might help clear your head out
Nothing better than a nice snotty curry ;)
 
yeah, stomach is fine. I'm on psuedoephedrine now
and a nasal steroid
 
Wow... kind of hardcore
 
hurts to cough or blow my nose at this point
 
I bet :/
 
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