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3:12 PM
Is 'working like a charm' correct english?
 
yes
 
I guess you aren't working with BLE or Samsung then @rupinderjeet
 
3:14 PM
I thought its odd. I can't understand 'like a charm' part? I know its like "Works 100%" or something.
 
well
maybe it is a hexed charm
don't try to make sense of it rup, it is just a saying
 
yeah, I didn't use BLE, but I have a <!--cute--> Galaxy S2
 
a charm is usually refered as a magic trick
works like a magic trick : works nice ,flawlessly.
 
Oh
thanks.
 
"you're charming" -> "In your presence i feel witched and emboozled"
 
3:16 PM
>_>
 
that's not what that means :P
 
it could mean that
:P
 
the verb charm means "delight greatly", works like a charm.. works so good it delights you greatly? I don't know :D
 
lol true tim
 
I always thought the "charm" part refers to things like rabbit foot or horse shoe.
 
3:17 PM
Just a saying we have
 
> A charm is a spell that adds certain properties to an object or creature.
 
"What's the craic" makes no logical sense but we all say it back in Ireland
 
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Q: Phrase Usage:- "Works like a Charm", can it be used formally?

indyI have seen many people using the phrase "It works like a charm"....when they are asked about , how something is working/going on. Is it a correct way to use it in business communication. For Example:- Q: "Is your application working(software)"? A: "Yes, it works like a charm"? Ki...

 
Can it also mean that its just a hack(not proper way to do something) since its a trick?
 
> "Craic" (/kræk/ krak) or "crack" is a term for news, gossip, fun, entertainment, and enjoyable conversation, particularly prominent in Ireland.
> The word crack is derived from the Middle English crak, meaning "loud conversation, bragging talk".
> Works like a charm is an idiom meaning something that beings good luck or success and seems to have magical powers
bows in sign of acceptace of my definition
a charm is a spell :P
i couldn't find the world spell when i defined it
 
3:19 PM
I know spell. I used them in Skyrim :P
 
a charm can have different meanings
 
Lumos!
 
As juliette said, it can be used to reference a rabbit foot or something
 
yeah i use them in COC
 
which still refers to magical powers.
or Special powers. very S P E C I A L.
depends on your rpg of choice.
 
3:20 PM
I would argue it refers to superstition
 
which still points to magic.
or the supernatural world around us.
 
or lack of intelligence
 
o/
 
let's end it with that :P
\o zaub - wie gehts
 
3:22 PM
indeed
 
o/ zaub
 
\o
 
indeed
 
@MarkOSullivan94 perfect timing
 
hows the cold wave going in NE tim?
 
3:23 PM
the huh what where
o
 
Tim moved to Nebraska?
 
it's not bad
 
northern europe.
 
Arithmetic overflow error converting expression to data type int. and the line number points to </cfif> f-me
 
why the here is an if ending in markup?
 
3:24 PM
worst we got was -10 at night and like -4 during the day
 
Nebraska isn't in northern europe
 
CM stay away from wathever you are doing
ASAP
 
I thought you meant Netherlands Eric :D
 
-_-
 
It's coldfusion
 
3:24 PM
-_-
 
I've learned to deal with it's stupidness
 
you mean coldfusion learned to deal with you
 
coldfusion can't handle me
 
btw i got the jacket
 
which jacket?
 
3:26 PM
oficially as per jacket sizing, it's a 40R
 
Did you get it fixed?
 
but i bet my ass taht isn't even near to a 40"
 
cM, would you say you dislike CF?
 
it's probably a 44-45"
 
Tim, very much so but he already knows it
 
3:26 PM
yeah
 
lol tim why me?
 
there's enough inches to make it a 50"
so yeah
 
I didn't mean you, I meant cold fusion
 
wait cM already has a big list of haters
 
the sew-woman will be able to fix it
 
3:27 PM
first is carl
 
Oh, coldfusion. I don't hate it as much as when I first started doing it
But I'm still not crazy about it
 
the sewing lines have 4 inches extra space, and then the back of the buttons has double whool, as the belt and the pockets
so there's lot of extra whool to patch it
 
I was kidding cM, I did mean him, but I also wanted to pretend I didn't :)
 
Got you
 
i'm turning a 3-piece jacket in a 6-piece jacket
 
3:28 PM
You're sneaky
 
but then again, those damn american teenagers had a fucking small pelvis back in 1942.
 
wait you didnt know that already
 
i don't know how you survived as a coutnry
 
I did. That's why I said "Tim, very much so but he already knows it"
 
it doesn't even fit my GF without small fixes.
 
3:29 PM
Did you buy chance get it from the Gap?
 
If I am supporting android 4.0.3, should I still use support.v4 fragments or the native ones?
 
the Gap?
 
none
 
i was saying about Tim, cM
dont support 4.0
 
don't support 4.0
 
3:30 PM
My device for testing is 4.1.2 :(
or for 4.1.2, do I need support.v4 ones?
 
4.1 >4.0, just in case you didnt know
 
yes, I thought 4.0.3 is still alive.
 
it is
 
> dont support 4.0
why?
 
3:33 PM
because it has fucking 1.4% share
and you get lots of bug to deal with
 
support.v4.fragment is for android < 3.0
 
^ if you can afford to not support a version, don't support it. Older versions will cause headaches, always.
 
also your app already support 4.1
why you want to downgrade
doesnt make sense
use support fragment native fragments had bugs in some releases
 
Anyone in the snapchat beta? Seems like they've improved their app in their v10
Don't think it's crashed once since joining the beta
 
not even in the normal snapchat
 
3:35 PM
^
 
you're missing out on all the shitty snaps I get sent on a daily basis
 
no thanks i guess
 
so, not the regular ones then?
 
you don't need support.v4.fragments unless your users have a brick for a phone
 
3:38 PM
i think we use support v7 out of laziness
but not v4
 
v7 has no fragment
 
\oo
 
no, but it has the AppCompatActivity to manage fragments
 
wah, been away too long;
 
and has the v4 embedded for em incase of requirement
 
3:41 PM
right
 
+ CV RV and all those material things
v13 is a new fragment called CompatFragment that i haven't used
and v17 is only if you want to offer android TV things
 
3:54 PM
right
 
time to go home
 
right
 
left
 
bye eric
 
Eric, I just share what happens to reach me and I find shareable. I guess I share stuff that is pretty commonly shared within the same time span so it is purely coincidence. Also he shared way more stuff than I do. And no I do not know this Peter.
 
4:08 PM
If Stamina mode is active and I am using fragment animations, would the fragment not show? I saw this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/41473673/3682535
 
4:34 PM
what the hell is stamina mode?
 
stamina mode duh!
 
Why do phone manufacturers purposely go out of their way to try and fuck shit up
 
:/
 
stamina
 
4:34 PM
@MarkOSullivan94 because that is their job
 
I have missed out
 
Time to go home~~ :D
cya people!! x3
 
bye wompy
 
To keep us devs employed :D
 
Stamina mode o.o
 
4:36 PM
haha :D
 
Is this a Sony only feature?
 
seems to be
reminds me of samsung's smart manager
the digital horror
 
why Tim?
 
because they are both manufacturer apps that are designed to make our life hard
 
no i mean what was wrong with samsung's smart manager?
i havent used it or seen it so asking
 
4:38 PM
As long as developers don't start working with them, they'll eventually die out as no one will use them so no problem :P
 
it kills processes of apps that have not been opened by user for X time
 
even if foreground service?
 
not sure
but foreground service is usually not an option
 
its not that bad then
the worst horror was 4.2.2 samsung appcompat bug
 
for me it is :P I had to make an app that has to do stuff in the background, and the user should never have to open it
 
4:40 PM
it crashed on 4.2.2 on samsung devices
 
some days I think about how easy my job would be if I were an iOS dev
 
That's what I've started thinking Tim
 
true
 
I can see the benefits of it
 
look boss, the app works on both devices - well done tim, job complete
 
4:41 PM
unfortunately i dont know swift
 
swift is just another language
 
i have seen 2 IOS dev gave up on android development because they thought it was too hard
 
Android needs to be more strict when it comes to what manufacturers can do
would be so handy for us devs
 
o/
 
but one of android's strongest selling points is that they can do that
 
4:47 PM
o/
 
Yeah it's fine to let them customise the experience but it's pretty clear from a developers stand point that certain manufacturers are messing up
I just mean for them to restrict them from making developers life hell but still have the ability to tweak Android to make their experience unique
 
Even if they have 6 devices to support I have not seen that ios team has less headaches
they rewrote the whole app to swift
 
I thought there was an xcode button for the conversion :P
 
now they are rewriting for the new swift version or something
we should ask @trevor-e for an opinion about this
he is experienced and hopefully can compare both worlds
 
5:01 PM
Yeah I heard there was a new swift version
 
I am almost certain that I can not use objc
 
though that's the equivalent of switching to Kotlin
 
We were taught some C in uni, thought that was hard to read
 
o/
 
then I took some mobile development classes, and we were taught some obj-c
 
5:07 PM
this monday doesn't wanna end....
 
my god
mondays tend be like that :(
 
I feel that my eyes are crying..
Didn't raise my head the whole day
 
are you looking at apple.com?
:D:D
 
hahaha :D
 
Bad day @MehdiB.?
 
5:11 PM
yeah.. I'm working on 2 projects
On the first, I have to fix a shit load of defects and UAT is blocked because of that
On the second, the client has rechanged the requirements by adding 1 small feature, so It broke my flow and now I'm implementing a whole new conf...
 
That's annoying dude :\
If it makes you feel any better I still haven't sorted my graph issue and I'm also still not sure what to do with the club selector thing
 
I was about to ask you about that
stupid question, what data structure are you using?
nevermind, saw your question : stackoverflow.com/questions/41655150/…
 
5:28 PM
Took me 2 hours to notice final float distanceToLastLocation = location.distanceTo(location); ... and I need some holidays...
 
lol
 
Anybody uses Slack? You might want to get a better idea what "private" does mean in "private messages". tidbits.com/article/16713
tl;dr any team admin can get private messages of any user, including previously deactivated ones.
 
wow
:O
that's outrageous.
 
just noticed something strange with one pal's account, and quick googling revealed this monster
 
we use it at work but that has scarred me for life.
#nevertouchingitagain
 
5:36 PM
next time think twice before sending something questionable in a company's slack
because it's still owned by company, even if it looks "independent"
that's a good rule of thumb in all similar cases, though
 
slack is our main communication channel at work... but I know from experience that you should never write something incriminating in something owned or paid by your company and I never did 😀
 
BACK
 
hey back
 
o/
 
o/
 
5:54 PM
i need somebody with visual studio
or some c# compiler
to compile me a .dll
 
What do I look like? a Compiler?
 
yes
 
Shits Not Found Exception, line 54, getShitsIGive() in MotivationLoop
 
damn you
 
visual studio is free
so, have fun
 
6:06 PM
grr kay
 
lol dave
 
for fucks sake
one whole hour
 
I understand Eric
 
to fix a damn plugin manager
 
lol
 
6:09 PM
better that give me stars as a repo
 
can't remember how many Gigas in that thing
 
No one wants to download nor use visual studio but sometimes they need to
 
hahaha, yeah :D
 
lol
 
so I'm going to make you get familiar with it because I don't want to open it
 
6:09 PM
i've used VS
it's a nice dev environement
atleast better than xcode
 
a wet napkin is a better IDE than xcode
3
 
and probably compiles faster
 
I really don't like that IDE, I gave up on a project once
because of VS
it was an outlook plugin
 
:(
 
6:24 PM
VS?
Visual Studio xD
 
yes, Eric came up with the name, I followed :D
 
 
2 hours later…
7:56 PM
Took me an hour to get shit working, forgot my laptop adapter so had to dig up my old one to watch some Netflix, now watching on an xp from 2004 xD
It has msn messenger installed xD
Memories
 
icq?
aim?
 
8:29 PM
hahahaha
 
hehe
 
o/
a novice programmer would hardcode it an experienced programmer would make a general engine feature a veteran programmer would hardcode it
 
8:55 PM
@MarkOSullivan94, I just played with it, and it looks like MPAndroid sorts the List you build your dataset with on the inside...
 
9:05 PM
Any of you guys using highly collaborative codebases?
I'm switching from owning the whole codebase into being a contributor to a huge source. But the source I'm playing with is really messy, lots of different styles going on, no uniformed conventions, methods are in a completely random order.
Do you think me wandering around refactoring and restyling as I go is a total waste of time / likely to annoy everyone else? Or do you think people will appreciate order being added to the source?
 
Maybe both
They will probably appreciate it, but next week It will be a mess again
 
The most important thing is to let everyone know what you're thinking... Get everyone to agree that things are messy first!
Then when you propose to fix things up, offer a few ways that you are thinking of standardizing on. Then people won't be irritated when they see 'their' code changing
Heard a really good talk by the Uber guys about coding standards using checkstyle. They said it was really painful to get things to comply, but once it was done. It was sooo much better!
The earlier you get stuff like that in place, including LeakCanary, CI, checkstyle... the better. Adding in later is tough
 
9:22 PM
Will check out checkstyle now
 
Lint warnings too. There is a new 'baseline' feature for not allowing things to 'get worse'
 
checkstyle looks a bit... old school.
Ant tasks :)
Oh, has IDE integration which is cool
 
9:53 PM
Perhaps you should clean up one class and then ask other for opinions
 
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