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7:04 PM
 
they write software that manages outdoor bilboards.... and that takes a Chuck Norris of programming??
 
Hey guys. Anyone here know much about automating the scroll of a listview? Essentially, like the 'Price is Right' wheel.
Triggered by a swipe gesture, into an automation with a listview.
@neb
@nebulae check out VFS. I went there, pretty fantastic programs.
 
Maybe if you inherit from the scrollview and override its scroll handler</speculation>
 
I heard lost boys was better, the class sizes are 1/10th of VFS
and Ive seen some pretty bad reviews for VFS actually
when did you go?
 
@CarlAnderson yeah, this is gonna be a tough one. thx for the idea though.
 
7:13 PM
afk -> lunch
 
@nebulae Just looking at their website, if they're promoting VFX and graphics, why does it look like a website from the 90s. I guess VFS' website isn't that great either, but I just graduated in August. I was in Digital Design.
 
from the 90s?
ahha, yah...
 
I'm just really bothered by their nav bar & logo @nebulae
 
digital design does get good reviews
were you able to get right into the industry from there?
lost boys has a 98% placement rate and guarantees a practicum
 
@nebulae yeah, I graduated on a Thursday, started work on Monday.
@nebulae i work at a software development company called iQmetrix.
 
7:16 PM
nice :)
 
It
 
we'll check that one out too i imaging,
 
This chat is weird... lol.
 
Ive just heard RAVE reviews of lost boys
and it's kinda alternative, project based, very small school
 
I've lived in Vancouver for 3 years and I've never heard of it. Which is weird.
 
7:17 PM
I like the 4-6 person class size idea
 
Oh damn.
How expensive?
 
same as VFS
but you get a massive budget for your projects
 
@Krylez Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
and 24/7 access to all the equipment
 
It's 24/7 at VFS. Infinite access to numerous green room studios and RED cameras.
I just love VFS. The networking alone is worth the money. You may not have that many opportunities at a small school.
 
7:19 PM
the guy that started the school has been in the industry for years and years
here's where I got my info:
 
That website is so biased. I used it before i went to VFS
half the things they talked about, are just not true.
Things are ALWAYS changing at these schools. So, any review older than 4 months is useless.
 
true enough
we have a couple years to figure it out
again, the 4-6 person class size... thats pretty amazing
 
Yeah, I can see that being awesome.
People can get left behind at VFS.
But that's usually because they're not prepared.
 
pretty damn impressive
 
oh nice
 
7:23 PM
But. Regardless, seeing the portfolio of the students work is the most misleading thing ever. It doesn't mean your child will be able to do it, it just means there are talented people who've been to that school.
There's always a huge talent gap, because most of these schools take anyone who is willing to pay them money (including VFS). But, you get out what you put in.
You could slack off for the 12 months and hand in the bare minimum, and still get your diploma; however, these industries are about portfolio more than anything.
 
well, Im glad to hear you liked your experience at VFS
 
As long as you're confident in the program (regardless of the school). You just gotta be committed. Drive can get anyone anywhere. :)
 
^
 
totally.
that kinda changed my mind about VFS tbh
 
There's 2 members.
What kind of due diligence did you do.
 
7:29 PM
ha!
lots actually
I got there from another board
 
"I have no experience personally with EBM but I know a few people who took it and absolutey hated it."
 
which I got to from yet another
thats about the EBM program specifically tho
which isn't on the docket
 
Well, yes. My point is about the legitimacy and reputability of these comments.
They're written poorly, and most of the time... the person who hated it, wasn't ready for how hard it is.
My class started with 30 people. 10 Dropped out within 6 months.
 
the guy that started lost boys used to teach at vfs
 
A good school will always get bad reviews from the people who just couldn't make it through. If there was 100% positive reviews about a school, that most likely means everyone was able to get through it perfectly.
 
7:32 PM
again, glad to hear you liked your experience :)
 
I'm not trying to push you towards VFS. It does sound like it, but basically I'm just saying to be super skeptical about anything you hear about any of these schools. You gotta experience it upfront I think... it's totally different than I had imagined.
 
it's her choice ultimately...
 
er so... btw if your looking for a job let me know :P
also, I BOUGHT A PUPPY
 
who pyro?
puppy!!!
 
and... picked up a baby along the way as well
 
7:34 PM
baby!
omg
 
oh wow
overload of cute
 
:D
 
just sounds horrible lol. "I bought a puppy but while I was walking home there was just this baby, so i took it too!"
 
you have way too much cute there.
I'll take that puppy off your hands.
 
7:36 PM
Yes, there certainly is a lot of cute going on there
 
:P
and I am buying a house, because I have too many animals per square foot here
 
lol
awesome :)
congrats pyro, thats awesome news
 
thanks!
and the job thing is to anyone who wants to take a shot at it :P
 
whats the job description?
 
@Pyrodante go on... ;)
 
7:38 PM
I work with the recruitment/training of people here.
Mobile development Android, iOS, and/or Ruby devs
with a small smattering of windows, flex, and blackberry
 
onsite or remote?
 
^
I'm a huge GUI nerd. So, WPF/XML/IB. I can design and implement any front end UI components for Windows / Android and iOS. Flexible as well.
 
I'm a noob programmer but I'm a quick learner if there is training.
 
we do training, we do have a technical screening, but we only expect a fresh out of college level experience
we have remote workers
 
Well if you need a GUI designer, that takes it one step further and implements his work (let me know!) :)
 
7:44 PM
where are you located, pyro?
 
fresh out of college level experience is pretty vague haha :P
 
Nashville
We may need a designer...
 
Vancouver, BC here
 
I know we just hired one
 
> If you find a TPS report, burn it.
:D
 
7:45 PM
lol
 
@Ahmad agreed.
 
I'm interested in checking it out further. What kinds of apps do you build?
 
metova.com
 
I'm going to need a job real soon. This place is going to run itself into the ground if things don't change quickly
 
My work is always looking :)
But, you'd have to relocate to Vancouver
 
7:47 PM
I wouldn't mind a change in work. I'm a sysadmin for a bank and basically sit around for 8 hours a day, looking at server loads.
 
pyro, can I use your name in my cover letter?
 
i'm adding a view programmaticly to a relativelayout via addView. However, I want to retrieve this view again later, does anyone know how to do this without knowing its id?
 
Think about your question. What is the problem?
Not having an id, right?
 
^
 
you can find it by its tag too
 
7:51 PM
So the question is, how can I give an id to a View via code?
 
lmgtfy
 
okay, thanks guys
 
Then you go to the docs and say: " man I wonder if there is a setId()...oh wait..."
 
getChildAt() can work but not always the best
 
Id recommend setting a tag and using that to retrieve it.
 
7:52 PM
@Ak_Crusader wait wait, you're phrasing it all wrong. You get paid to sit around.
 
It is more about how to actually try to solve the problem than the actual solution IMO
 
you can generate an id, and use that too
 
If that's not great than idk (unless you are not allowed to do something else during that time)
 
@Code-Guru We do all kinds of stuff. We did Slacker, PGi GlobalMeet and iMeet and a few others
 
Can I get your real name, pyro?
 
7:53 PM
@Ahmad ah yes, thank you. I get paid to sit around, looking at server loads.
 
theres a generateIdForView or something like that, that'll create an id that won't collide with any other ids
 
I'm sending a resume.
 
but that is api17 + i think
setting the tag and getViewByTag is api 1
 
40k a year to sit on my butt isn't to bad. extremely boring though.
 
@Code-Guru pretty sure that is in my profile :P
 
7:54 PM
meh, didn't think to even look there.
 
@Pyrodante would you like any of my contact info?
 
Sure, but I do know we cannot sponsor visas, I think you said you weren't from the US right?
 
I'm Canadian. Would I not be able to work remotely?
I have a full time job already, just looking for extra contract work load.
 
We don't subcontract sadly
 
Still need an internet Visa to work remotely
 
7:57 PM
internet Visa?
Oh wait, that was a joke, right? and I killed it?
 
Yes, Ahmad, to work in a different country through the internet
Haha... :D
 
lol
 
Thought I would throw out a lame joke and see who bites while waiting on a call (don't want to start anything then get interrupted0
You always kill my jokes, Ahmad. If it isn't you it's that damn @Emmanuel
 
@Pyrodante sent
 
:)
 
8:01 PM
hire me! =p
 
That's my job magic. Killing your jokes is like the reason why I log in into this chat everyday.
 
I appreciate that immensely, Ahmad.
 
its hard work, but someone's got to do it
 
Emmanuel pays me for that neb.
In Mexican Peso's.
 
user457812
I've had a bad feeling about today ever since I woke up
 
user457812
8:03 PM
It's probably Ahmad's fault.
 
well its not MY fault.
 
actually its Mexican Pico
 
I'm apparently doing a fantastic job!
 
she pays you in extra chunky topping
 
but now I'm hungry.
 
8:04 PM
eats a cadbury cream egg
 
icky
pasta salad.
thats what i want
 
easter candy best candy
 
ewwwww cold pasta
 
@Pyrodante nothing like pastel jelly beans and starburst jelly beans
 
don't forget peeps
they are amazing until you get sick from them
 
8:07 PM
blech
peeps are disgusting.
 
DON'T JUDGE ME!
2
 
Too late.
 
user457812
Peeps are god.
 
user457812
Failure to love peeps means I ban you.
 
god?
also a new room owner
 
user457812
8:08 PM
Yes, new, definitely new.
 
I should get out more...
 
Fine, I guess they are not that bad. my kids like them.
 
you can fight them in the microwave
 
Who do you think has to clean the microwave? No. @FoamyGuy bad!
 
user457812
8:10 PM
I would start quoting Dr. Nova's flan statements except with peeps, but I can't really remember them. Well, aside from "Peeps are destiny!"
 
umm
not me?
 
Also unrelated: style.Translucent != style.Transparent
the more you know
 
Let's see how long it takes pyro to figurw out noel's nil
 
ups I gave it away
 
8:13 PM
YES
 
well look at that the magic has died, THANKS @FoamyGuy!
 
I do what I can
 
that was close
 
user457812
@Ahmad He'll never know.
 
shoulda let the kid get hit
hed learn never to underestimate the high ground
 
8:19 PM
and to never wage a land war in Asia
 
user457812
The kid'd probably be fine.
 
damn that person should be a sprinter
 
is that a dog riding the car
 
doesn't look like it
 
That person is not a sprinter, only a parent :P
 
user457812
8:20 PM
An overly paranoid parent.
 
thats a dog im saying it
white body with a black spot on its hindquarters and a brown head
 
it is a kid
 
user457812
If they can outrun the plastic thingy, the kid at the bottom was only really in for a couple bruises
 
what you see as the tail is the shoes
 
damn i want it to be a dog
 
8:21 PM
he is kneeling on the back
blond hair
dark shorts
 
user457812
Presto chango the child is a dog
 
user457812
Plus it was probably functionally equivalent to a dog anyway
3
 
#staringthingsthatareoutofcontext
 
Is there a better thing to do other than crash, on a OOM Exception?
we have a beta user really pushing the limit of what his phone can do
 
user457812
OOM?
 
user457812
8:23 PM
Out of memory?
 
user457812
Yes: get a profiler and start figuring out what you're wasting so much memory on.
 
Images
I wasting memory on showing the user dozens of photos
it's pretty much what our app does
 
user457812
If the photo viewer app on Android works fine, then you're doing a lousy job of showing photos
 
I do think we're not calling the memory cache's "bail out, drop images" function in the right places
 
user457812
Basically, recycle everything you possibly can.
 
user457812
8:26 PM
Also, look for any new X expressions and ask if you need those
 
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Q: How to send notification even if app is killed

IosifI am working on an Android project that has a part which dose this: 1) the user enter a data from a data field and save it in a text file 2) the app should send notification even if the application is killed by the os, at that date, the one wrote by the user. For example: I write 31.01.2015 The...

holy cow I can still answer questions!
@CarlAnderson sounds like your not downsampling your images right.
 
nil, the biggest problem is that the powers that provide my employment have decided the app's architecture should allow for infinite drill-down into deeper and deeper layers of images.
the images are already downsampled on the server, before they're requested
 
That should be fine if you implement right right image loading libraries...
 
user457812
Not sure how that matters if you can discard images that aren't visible.
 
What a server things is small enough, and what Android thinks is small enough may be two totally different things.
 
8:29 PM
this is true
 
whatever you do, DO NOT tell him to use picasso instead.
 
lolz
Picasso or some other handler is going to get some serious evaluation for version 2.1, but not for 2.0.
 
user457812
Hm, need to make a Win7 USB boot key
 
user457812
Wonder what's on each of my USB keys..
 
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Q: How do I do a lazy load of images in ListView?

lostInTransitI am using a ListView to display some images and captions associated with those images. I am getting the images from the Internet. Is there a way to lazy load the images so while the text displays, the UI is not locked up and images are displayed as they are downloaded? The number of images is ...

some ideas
 
user457812
8:31 PM
Ok, one has a bunch of source code and libc++ and stuff..
 
user457812
Wasn't expecting to find libc++ on a USB key.
 
user457812
The other is apparently a Ubuntu boot key.
 
Pyro, the code I've inherited already has its own AsynImageView class that subclasses ImageView and creates an ImageRequest object to send to our threaded request manager
 
Well the bottom line is if you are hitting OOM you are holding on to too much stuff
images are very expensive to hold on to, views as well, and activities with both most of all
 
user457812
Also, consider reducing the bit depth of thumbnails.
 
8:35 PM
yeah, I hadn't gotten one on my own in testing in quite a while - the app used to be unusable before I got here
I had hoped that all of my changes had fixed it enough that it would be rare
but we have one user who's on some Samsung phone that only has 1GB of ram (and is still running Jellybean somehow)
 
user457812
You might consider that idea strange but if the choice is between 24- or 32-bit and 16-bit (i.e., RGB565), you could shave off 1/3 to 1/2 of the image size.
 
and he's managed to crash it 3-4 times just today
 
user457812
Ascension intentionally renders configuration previews as 16-bit images because, realistically, you won't notice.
 
that conversion could be done server side too
 
user457812
It also allows me to keep more config previews cached.
 
8:38 PM
server side would be great name for a band.
 
user457812
Unless you only played in restaurants
 
"the server side"
"noel and the server side"
 
user457812
Someone would throw their bill at you
 
"pyro and the server side"
it works with everything
 
user457812
While I have aspirations of being a voice actor, singer isn't on the list
 
user457812
8:39 PM
I have a feeling this USB key isn't taking too kindly to the Win7 ISO.
 
solution: install ubuntu
also use jquery
 
MY PUPPY IS ADORABLE!
that is all
 
user457812
bootstrap.js everythang
 
and node!
don't forget node
 
user457812
Have I mentioned my absolute hatred of Javascript and web devs and node.js recently?
 
8:40 PM
no, but please go on.
 
user457812
Well I just mentioned it by asking.
 
Extry Extry Nil hates something!
3
 
user457812
That's the point of asking a have-I-mentioned question.
 
user457812
It's kind of like how saying "I'm not racist, but" is a way of signaling that you're racist.
 
i read this thing...
let me find it
 
user457812
 
user457812
Note: may be not work safe because it's people being racist.
 
dammit I can't find it
it was this letter to the editor kinda thing, this woman who went off about her biracial kids and things said to them, and listed off a bunch of things that were racist, that people do
apparently, if you're a hairdresser and you compliment her sons hair, you're a racist.
 
user457812
I remember this.
 
im racist but i like hanging out with black people
 
That's still racist I think.
 
8:46 PM
if you call her kids cute, you're a racist.
 
if you open your eyes youre a rapist
3
 
uhhh
 
That escalated quickly
 
way to change topics.
 
Does that mean I have to go blind in order to not be a rapist?
 
8:48 PM
if any of you have your eyes open, Im calling the police.
nil's avatar is extremely relevant
 
user457812
In the land of the sighted, the blind man is pretty damn blind.
 
i see what you did there
said the blind man
to his deaf wife
 
"but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." -Jesus
 
user457812
I remember a poetry class I was in was discussing a fellow student's poem once. The poem involved rape, but didn't really touch on it much. I made the astute comment, "I think it needs more rape."
 
it's not something you do halfway.
so yah
anyway
 
user457812
8:51 PM
The comment made perfect sense, but neither I nor anyone else in the class was able to keep a straight face.
 
back to the safe topic of racism...
 
Well hold on there, I think we were have a perfectly safe conversation about rape. I say we indulge.
eh... nvm... I couldn't help but cringe the whole time writing that...
 
user457812
At least my statement in class had good reason. >_>
 
user457812
I wonder what I should get for lunchcorndogscorndogscorndogscorndogsCORNDOGSYES
 
user457812
Screw health I want a corndog.
 
8:56 PM
I want a hotdog.
 
hahaha: http://37.media.tumblr.com/657ab5d5a113aa4e2d166bcae366b8ea/tumblr_n0ut5hYUrl1rtqy7mo1_500.png
wut:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8wdz9dnDe1rtqy7mo1_500.png
que?
http://37.media.tumblr.com/86e54cfdb7ca1736b464cf8866435571/tumblr_n0xb0aBGMO1rtqy7mo1_500.png
 
user457812
So go to the store, buy one, open the pack, and eat a hotdog.
 
user457812
They're pre-cooked, so really there's nothing stopping you.
 
yeah, but that involves me going to a store, fake acting friendly to other people in the store, interact with the cashier, drive back home. It's just way too much work.
 
I had pesto pasta salad and a chicken sandwich.
 
user457812
8:57 PM
You don't have self-checkouts?
 
make one... from the flesh of your enemies!!!!11!1!!!!
 
We do but not very well maintained at the store nearby.
 
I can't believe JMR dropped that bomb then left
 
I am not surprised by anything JMR does ever. Unless it's good, that's a bit shocking
 

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