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3:00 PM
Ah, I see
LOL
 
:(
 
"Travel the galaxy peddling herbs to various alien races!
 
Maybe by tonight, I can submit my App.
Has anyone ever done it before. Does it just submit your latest build?
 
3:21 PM
@Owatch Yea of course I've done it almost a hundred times I guess by now LOL.
You can just select the latest build yes.
 
And for price?
I just selected Tier 1, and then made the Availability date sometime in August..
 
hmm, I forgot the exact location but there should be a link to that price page.
 
I want it to be available sooner than August though
 
then set the date as today
 
Can I change that later to whatever date I want?
 
3:22 PM
yes
 
I heard if you set it to today, then it goes right to the App Store when it is cleared..
I want to manually release it though
 
hmm, ok then when it's approved just change the date of availability
 
Do I want to discount for educational institutions?
 
yeah, why not
 
I already did it.
 
3:27 PM
just means that schools can buy your app in bulk
that's good
 
But wasn't sure if tons of people used it to just get cheaper Apps or if it was abused.
 
i guess the only other advice I can give you is, make sure you are contactable, and listen to the feedback and iterate quickly
 
You mean for bugs/issues?
 
make sure you release 1.1 within a month or two, and make sure you leave email/twitter/etc in the app so people can contact you
for bugs, and also for UX and usability.
I think the most important thing in your app is UX and usability now.
 
You have access to my App though.
What would you say.. ?
In terms of those.
 
3:30 PM
I think I told you already a few weeks ago
let me update it and give it one last look
 
I found a bug
(Not your dilip_
In my App
Note: If you add a system when there are too many objects in scene to support it, it won't add it but will show a warning. The bug is that the game will not become un-paused after that. I just fixed it. :/
 
damn I didn't even try that
btw
I just re run your tutorial
maybe on one of the screens, show a screenshot of your icons and annotate with arrows?
because I still think the number 7 on top left is a mystery to new users
and the orbit icon might be a mystery too, but I think you covered it in your tutorial
 
Screenshots would be a good idea.
But
 
and also, one last thing is I would add some left and right padding on your Discover page on the collection view that contains the moons, planets, and stars.
 
3:41 PM
The screen with the three options?
@EnricoSusatyo Can you confirm that opening up the (+) panel in the scene and then just hitting 'Close' will keep the game paused even if it should be running?
It's doing that for me, and it is the oldest problem in the book. IDK why it is occurring again..
 
yes
it is doing that for me too
but tapping the "list" icon does not pause the game.
I'm really happy with your progress from the first build up to now
and after you open this up to public you'll get way more feedback
 
@EnricoSusatyo Tapping list does pause the game..
It should pause once you move, and unpause when you come back.
 
yes, that's what I mean, after I press "close" it runs the game again
 
Oh good. It is supposed to do that.
I found the bug.
When popping VC back to scene. It's supposed to call a protocol method called "Useraborted", it didn't do that because I had been tweaking the protocol earlier and removed it.
Simple two line fix.
@EnricoSusatyo The screen that has the star icon, planet icon, and moon icon right?
What do you mean by padding, make the cells smaller?
A border around the UITableView?
 
@Owatch No, make the two gap in the middle of the side objects to the middle objects smaller.
I think it would look better
 
3:50 PM
Oh
You mean the three columns?
 
yup
so the distance between the edge of the screen and the left/right items should be more, maybe 40-60 pts.
but it should definitely at least aligned with "Return"
 
I don't know man..
It won't do it
I've tried adjusting insets, cell and line spacing, but it stays glued to each side.
:/
Probably another headache of a problem.
 
sectionInset isn't working?
 
Wait I am using that now
Seems to work
@EnricoSusatyo Done
@mattsven Do you think I should change the credits screen, so that the gradient has the top color of the top cell and a bottom color of the bottom cell?
(Background has a gradient)
 
@Owatch Nice
I need to go to bed
Goodnight all
 
4:03 PM
Goodnight, thank you for helping.
 
night
@Owatch i feel that might be a bit excessive
 
Yeah, I won't do it.
I should take out the spinning rims that show up on the Menu too..
IDK how those pause-unpause bugs got through...
Those were pretty bad
It's worrying.
 
4:33 PM
Hi there, I unfortunately upgraded OSX to El Capitan :( Just wondering can we submit app to app store? I know it does not allow beta xcode but i submitted with xCode 6.4
that you can fire from terminal
Any potential issue ?
 
IDK
@mattsven How would you recommend I stay contactable as Enrico suggested?
The App has no actual contact info inside it, besides a reference to my name.
I have a twitter page, and a .blogspot page listed in the Appstore entry for the App. Is that sufficient?
Should I add a contact in the 'Credits' section?
 
Yes.
Definitely
@Mann As long as you submit with the latest non-beta build of Xcode you should be fine
AFAIK
 
I have a sleek support email I can add :D
 
That too.
 
4:55 PM
I just put in the email
Didn't like the clutter of all my contact stuff.
Well, either email or twitter.
IDK which people use more.
Twitter might be easier to use, but everyone is guaranteed to have an email.
 
Morning, all.
Or afternoon, or evening.
 
hello
 
5:11 PM
What are you working on now Matt?
When it comes to the reading App.
You said you wanted a whole bunch of stuff setup before release.
But are you going to test it at all?
(Not that I can participate, since I don't have a new enough phone).
 
Anyone done much work with beacons and/or WatchKit?
 
Enrico has done work with beacons.
And Maximilian has worked with WatchKit
I don't work with either. Enrico has gone to bed, so you won't be able to talk to him for a while.
Maximilian usually comes online in the evenings, so you might reach him then.
 
5:33 PM
@Owatch ?? you just need iOS 7
I haven't dropped support
 
Oh, I thought you were for performance problems.
But now that I think about it, you might have resolved that.
 
Nah. Anyway, I'm making preparations for the beta/testing phase.
 
In any case, I'll hopefully get a new phone before that happens.
The 4 is ok but buggy and slow
 
Excellent. Thanks, Oswatch.
 
@Owatch I now dub thee, OSWatch
 
5:40 PM
Uh. Let's just remove that before anyone sees it.
 
Heh.
 
@mattsven Damn, these App review guidelines are pretty sassy: developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines
Read the bullet points
 
> We have lots of kids downloading lots of Apps. Parental controls work great to protect kids, but you have to do your part too. So know that we're keeping an eye out for the kids.
 
I'm working on interaction between a WatchKit app and iBeacons, and I'm not 100% sure how to make the communications happen. And online is pretty light about the topic. :)
 
It's 12 PM. Do you know where your kids are? Apple does.
> We have over a million Apps in the App Store. If your App doesn't do something useful, unique or provide some form of lasting entertainment, or if your app is plain creepy, it may not be accepted.
That disqualifies 50% of what's currently in the app store.
 
5:44 PM
Not even that Matt, keep reading
 
These guidelines are written with such a Big Mommy and Daddy tone
 
> If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps.
 
LOL
Yeah, that came after someone complained in a few articles about the review process/other stuff
I forget, but it was a big deal for awhile
 
Usually, you would have something like: "Unnecessary attempts at degrading or misrepresenting the Apple(TM)Review Panel(R) will result in appropriate countermeasures..." though.
 
The entire article is written like "Screw you, our house, our rules" they don't even attempt to be formal about it
which, they have a right to
 
5:49 PM
A nice change.
Kind of
> Apps or metadata that mentions the name of any other mobile platform will be rejected
Now on Android too!
> Apps that include games of Russian roulette will be rejected
I meet all these guidlines
The only problem is 'bugs'
Which can be difficult to find for me.
Though I feel I squashed a good deal of them today.
Their Human Interface Guidelines are like a a guide to hypnosis.
 
6:11 PM
Hey, quick question.
If I have a webview in an app, is there a way to tell the system to open links inside that webview in Safari instead of the webview?
 
6:26 PM
wait, explain? @xianritchie
oh, I think I understand
yes, there is.
you're using UIWebView or WKWebView?
 
UIWebView
 
Cool. So you want the UIWebView delegate method - (BOOL) webView:shouldStartLoadWithRequest:navigationType:
You'll be looking out for navigationType == UIWebViewNavigationTypeLinkClicked
That will allow you to catch link taps.
also return NO, so the UIWebView doesn't try to load the URL.
 
i have one question is swift's protocols like java's and c#'s interfaces? They both are implemeffted by class. I am bit confused by reading big answers on question related to this topic on stackoverflow. just give me short quick answer.....yes, no, sort of
 
Excellent. Thanks, matt.
 
no problem
 
6:35 PM
anyone please :( @mattsven @xianritchie
 
not familiar enough with Swift, sorry.
 
but protocols are in obj-c also
@mattsven
 
Yes. But you said 'swift protocols' I'm sure there's some differences from Objective-C.
 
yaa till now i don't see any conceptual diff. other than syntax
 
A protocol is just a way of saying that any class that implements that protocol, implements any methods it specifies (except the optional ones).
 
6:40 PM
so does protocols contains abstract methods? I mean those who don't have definition, just the declarations and a class must implements it?
class which implements it*
 
That sentence was confusing, lol.
 
@androidplusios.design awesome - that looks like a good resource
 
Yesterday I won a big Pot with AA
:)
30K = 6 Month salary here
 
nice
 
6:53 PM
and guess what I started with 500 of free money
I got from a Bet.
500 to 30.000
in 2 hours
 
That's awesome. I don't play, but it is a real win.
 
...
Nice
I'm still picturing @eddwinpaz like this
 
lol....
People at the table hated me
BEcause I started from nothing
the minimun buy in is 2000 and I got 500 for free from a won bet of iOS app hahaha..
from those 500 I went to 30K
and left at 3AM
 
"won bet of iOS app hahaha"?
 
this was the money :)
 
7:02 PM
I see
 
they wrote me a check didnt had more cash
hahaha
there was in play still 100K more
Just took a slice 30K :)
 
What currency?
 
Venezuelan Bolivares
4,670 USD$ = 30.000 Official
 
I see, not bad.
 
 
2 hours later…
9:16 PM
30k bs (Venezuelan Bolivares ) is in fact 56 USD $
and no, it is not 6 months of salary by no means
am also Venezuelan
i guess this chat was about NS for iOS and OS X Developers
 
I'm having the most ridiculous problem right now.,
 
Costco has bulk poptarts
I might subscribe...
 
My UIScrollView has to UIImageView's in it, I have no idea how they got there, nor do I know what their image's are. I've saved them to see what they are and they're nothing
It's all @Maximilian fault
 
You just got shown.
UIImageView's may be from XIB
Perhaps you did not delete them.
 
Nope
I looked
 
9:31 PM
Then I've got no idea.
 
I don't either
This is so dumb
 
I think I'll walk after I eat, then swim immediately after that.
 
Have funnnn
 
Be back by 8:45 instead of 9:45, might be an improvement.
Maybe buy some poptarts
Not in bulk
:/
 
9:34 PM
IKR..
I just can't get into their chocolate flavors though, it seems so bland.
Some Finnish kid avoids jail for over 50,000 counts of computer 'hacks'.
Good thing he's not here to receive his 120 life sentence..bbc.com/news/technology-33442419
 
9:55 PM
@DestinyFaith Those UIImageViews are the horizontal and vertical scrollbars.
If you don't want them, disable those scrollbars. If you do, you'll have to keep track of your own subviews (to keep things separate)
 
10:19 PM
Got glasses ordered.
New prescription..
BRB
 
10:34 PM
@JorgeVicenteMendoza You should know that Official Currency exchange its 6,30 And Minimum Wage its around 5K or some. and Still 30/5=6 on black market US Currency its 500 or so and you are right.
 
Ugh.
Those should of been disabled.
 
@JorgeVicenteMendoza yes it is for Objective-C / Swift devs.
 
submitted my first app for review yesterday!!
anyone know how long the procedure ususally is?
 
Congrats @Vimzy
 
@DestinyFaith thanks buddy :D
 
@Owatch hey bro, so it turns out that you can continue to do beta testing even if you submit your app for apple's approval!
@DestinyFaith sweet, so I'm looking at about what like 8 days?
not too shabby
 
It's pretty usual for that :p
 
11:06 PM
@Vimzy Nice!
I did not know that.
I am submitting tonight I think. I need to ask Gudiya about something first though.
 
Evening, dawgs.
 
If Nilium sees that, it could be a one way ticket to the time out room for you..
 
The word "Dawgs"?
I don't remember Nilium being that trigger happy! :D
 
Someone used 'bro' a couple weeks ago and got booted.
Granted, they said it twice.
 
So if I call everyone "brodawgs", I'm pretty much screwed?
 
11:12 PM
Yes.
 
Dammit.
How's everyone's evening?
 
Waiting for enough feedback from my testers to submit my app.
For the App store.
A couple people left some comments this morning. But I need to hear from Gudiya who has an iPad.
 
Excellent.
 
Good read: Choosing the Right Pricing Model for Your App dancounsell.typed.com/articles/…
 
I'm sitting in an AT&T M2X Data Service developer workshop.
 
11:17 PM
Matt, I don't need Dan Counsell's counseling
 
lol
 
Makes me want to up my price.
What do you think Matt?
What's it WORTH??
 
lol
brb
 
My question!?
Ok
 
11:32 PM
The generic answer is $1.99
 
You think so?
Matt has used my App for sometime, which is why I ask.
I felt $.99 was about as much as I could ask.
But if people feel it can get away at $1.30, or something I can do that.
 
I agree. Start it low at launch, $.99, and then go up to $1.99.
Then down, and so on. basically the tactic he suggests in that article...
 
Ok.
I'm now expecting to make maybe $300 from this TBH.
 
What were you expecting before?
 
After reading what someone's notes app made on a forum.
 
11:39 PM
TBH, I wouldn't expect anything
 
Or that too.
 
Right now I'm expecting to make a grand total of $.99
 
I originally though, based on what I had seen someone post, that I would make about a grand.
But it seems unlikely.
 
That way, I can buy the McDonald's $.99 meal I've had my eye on
 
Since looking at other people's projects have shown that they get nothing or very little. ]
 
11:40 PM
yeah but their projects weren't my project
my project is special
 
Not really. Mine is kind of bland.
You know what though, I think it looks cooler than it is.
Maybe that will sell.
 
(I was imitating how everyone thinks)
 
Yeah I know.
 
This is only your first app.
 
What does your app do?
 
11:42 PM
It's about space and stuff. You can read about planets, moons, and stars. It also has a simulator/sandbox in it where you can play around with various objects.
And see how they interact, set orbits, ect.
I'll be back later.
 
see ya
This probably isn't nearly as funny as I think it is
@drbarnard if you’re App Store-famous. For me sales drop my earnings. Nobody writes about it, so those people were going to buy anyway.
 
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