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11:00 AM
haha!
 
lol
@MehdiB. well then that is their choice
also turning veg and eating veg while being a non veg isnt exactly the same
indian veg food has too many varieties
@TimCastelijns where?
 
this cruelty occurs all over the world as far as I know
 
yup
 
I can confirm that
 
i do like veggies
but i love meat
and fish. and seafood. and fruits.
 
11:04 AM
Tim : aah i see agreed
 
I particularly like the combination of both
only meat is not fun
 
Same for me, I like to have both
 
only things i dislike are cheese and two or three varieties of veggies that suck
like broccoli
and apium
 
so in which countries there are veg people apart from india?
 
cauliflower: solid water
 
11:05 AM
whoever disgned these in the matrix should be reprocessed.
culturally? not many
in europe none so far that i know of
and in america neither
 
in america you have a bunch of hamburgertarians
 
The only vegetable I don't like is "Eggplant"
 
try it fried
 
oh my never thought i will see japan on the list
 
japanese style
it's lovely
 
11:06 AM
4.7% holy crap
 
japan is meat eater.
and a big one
 
well stats show 4.7% veg people
 
tons of seafood, beef, and pork
 
i dont believe it
 
and particularly, porc and see food eater
 
11:07 AM
^
 
yeah they even eat animals alive
 
beef only on special occasions or for rich people
 
raw != alive
 
Spain 0.5% - 4%
 
Japanese restaurants serve a lot of meat
 
11:08 AM
well i know i am talking about alive
 
in spain all veggies are because of hipsteria
 
XD
 
what do they eat alive?
 
Australia 2% - 11.2%
 
have you seen the movie Alive? Where the plane crashes in the andes and people eat eachother to survive?
 
11:08 AM
many things eric i have seen 2-3 videos it was grosss
 
No Tim, but I don't know why I'm laughing now XD
 
Netherlands 4.5%
 
It's the reason I know that meat from the butt is the easiest to chew
 
HAHAHA!
 
the fuck dutchies are 4.5% veg
 
11:10 AM
same reason as eric said. Veggies here are hipsters
 
^^
 
(also really occurred on the URSS period, when there was famine, some farmers got caught eating their kids)
CF - where do you get these numbers from?
 
again, culturally vegetarianism ( or pork ban, or red meat ban, or seafood ban) comes from protohistoric diseases that caused famine
 
wikipedia
This article deals with vegetarianism and veganism by country, comparing the prevalence of vegetarianism and veganism in each country when sources are available by the number of vegetarians and vegans, and listing food standards, laws and general cultural attitudes. Some countries have strong cultural or religious traditions that promote vegetarianism, such as in India, while in other countries secular ethical concerns dominate, including animal rights and environmental protection, along with health concerns. In many countries, food labeling laws make it easier for vegetarians to identify foods...
 
for example all abrahamic religions are non-pork eaters because of a big pork disease that spread to humans
crazy-cows like
and started on syria 6-7.000bc
 
11:12 AM
I look at it from the bright side: the more pork I eat, the more resistant I become to pork-spead diseases
 
@TimCastelijns lol
 
yay
 
XD
 
when did being veg became a trend
 
since a while CF
 
11:12 AM
lol tim
 
since it started being so un-mainstream
all teenagers had to be it
 
it just seemed normal to you, so you didn't notice it
 
well indians were always veggie
the western trend has turned people here non veg
 
refer to my first comment
 
> Indian immigrants to Africa, particularly in South Africa, brought vegetarianism with them which has been documented as far back as 1895
 
11:14 AM
yeah
 
a long time ago, in a far far away peninsula, livestock started dying of some random diseases and some of your cultures adapted to full veggie while others started taking more care of the resulting animal species
 
well we have the most arable land of the world
so being veggie was kinda easy
 
yup
it's harder to be veggie in norway
actually, it's probably impossible unless you consume your weight in potato mash
atleast on winter.
because it's the only stuff that grows up there with enough Kcals to kill the cold
 
also we dont like killing animals
 
neither do i. that's why i pay probably slightly psycopathic people to do for me.
 
11:17 AM
technically the animals that get killed for meat
 
i wouldn't mind hunting for survival tho. fishing is easy but slow.
 
are animals that won't survive in the nature
 
heck no
 
have you ever seen a wild cow?
 
depends of the type
 
11:18 AM
yes lots of mehdi
cow is the holiest animal in india
you cannot even think of killing one here
 
see? i spot a species that survived.
 
you might get killed
 
plants are also living organisms and nobody thinks twice about ending their life to eat them
 
or jsut for fun
 
100% Tim
 
11:19 AM
as a gift
or to make a bench
 
lol tim
 
yeah killing plants for fun
very sadistic
 
> There are no "wild cows" because humans domesticated and began breeding them for desired traits so long ago.
 
well back to the topic
there are some species that would indeed die to starvation
just like our pets
if we released all flat nosed dogs on nature they would be dead by a year.
like pugs
 
which is why street dogs are skinny
 
11:21 AM
we bred them a way that pleased us but would probably kill them
 
well not every plant in killed Tim
 
same for pigs, chickens, etc
 
and a lot of species were domesticated by humans since a long time
exactly
 
only those bred within uncontrolled farms like eco farms would survive
there are many here where pigs & all stuff roam freely on big parcels.
meat is tastier af
price is just 1.6X-2X aprox so it's not an provessive one
 
mehdi i doubt that
 
11:23 AM
we should invest in lab-made meat
and lab-made food
 
lol
 
what do you mean you doubt that?
 
lab made meat
i mean wild cows
not all are domesticated
 
there's a company that's developed chicken breasts from core cells.
 
synthetically developed meat is a thing
 
11:24 AM
there are other species, (not sure in english) Gnus and Buffles
 
even those wild cows come from domesticated species
 
baffalos
 
buffalos
 
your cows are just slightly less domesticated, but by a ^of 2 or 3.
 
also even if they are domesticated how does this justify killing i dont understand?
 
11:24 AM
no no
 
it doesn't
 
it's just that you said they aren't
 
well i said not all are
most are domesticated for milk
 
why not letting the milk for its babies?
 
buffaloes, gaurs and similar are the wildest and more surviving species
of cow
 
11:26 AM
they do let it for their babies too
 
Just had some sushi :D
tasty
 
yes! :D
 
what kind?
 
that cow has my hair
 
I am going out for sushi tomorrow night :D:D
 
11:26 AM
lovely
i miss sushi
 
I ate it 2 days ago :D
 
maybe next week
 
I had some from Tesco, nothing fancy :c
but still tasty
 
lol
what is a sushi never tasted only heard of it
 
what I really like in Sushis is the Raw saumon
 
11:27 AM
must be non veg i guess :/
 
raw fish and veggies over or inside cooked rice balls
usually covered in thin tasty algae
and soaked in salty sauces
 
and some types covered with Fish eggs
 
yeah but that's too salty for me
 
my favs are the ones that have bread crumbs on the outside
 
11:28 AM
voilà!
 
california rolls & like
 
isnt sushi a japanese thing?
 
yes
 
no wonder
i heard of it in animes then
 
11:29 AM
yup
 
I like the ones with Rice pasta around
 
Makis are I think the ones with the algae, no?
 
yup
 
meeh animes show they eat rice mostly
 
11:30 AM
yes
 
maki - round. sushi - long with stuff over it
sashimi - stripes of stuff over stuff
 
sushi is the collective name
 
like these ones
 
although there are also maki without algae
 
@TimCastelijns you mean they eat rice mostly?
 
11:32 AM
who
 
jap
 
I don't know what they eat mostly
saying it's rice might be a stereotype
 
meeh you said yes so i asked
 
it was to mehdi
 
noodles
my aunt is japanese. noodles veggies rice and meat
are the core of the food
 
11:35 AM
oh ok
and ramens i guess eric
 
ramen is meat + noodles + veggies
 
or shrimp
 
oh
 
realm ramen
 
lol
 
11:36 AM
:D
 
this is ramen with udon noodles
 
I cooked that last night. It is delishhh
 
most of the time served soup style. it's super tasty
i love it
 
I have a friend, who was a big fan of the japanese culture etc.. he went there to do a Research Master in Telcos, he's no longer fan of them :D
He said you live in such a loneliness, nobody ever says hi or smiles back at you :D
 
they're very shy.
 
11:37 AM
he came back as soon s he finished his 3 years
 
lol mehdi
 
i'm not a japanese culture fanboy, but man they food is cool.
user image
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XD
 
lol
 
just like france apparently
 
11:39 AM
he said that the fact that they lack social skills, they're taught to fake them
and when someone comes from a highly sociable society, you can feel those kind of things
 
brb
 
without any desire to offend anyone, i'm not into south east asian cultures and way of living. too stressful for me.
 
stop guys i'm hungry now
:)
 
I have an upcoming scenario where an app update requires addition permission requested. I am thinking notify user with a notification and disable the new code until they grant permission & keep notifying every day hoping they will do it. Is there a better way? The app runs on the background, users don't open it so cannot ask permission when they want to use the functionality
 
user443346
Guys, have a small question about accessing static vars while the class has an instance already. coordinateDbHelper is the instance but AS keeps giving me it's better to access it the static way. Why is this and is this really better than using the instance of the class.

IE: values.put(CoordinationDbHelper.COLUMN_QRID, penetration.qrid) instead of
values.put(coordinationDbHelper.COLUMN_QRID, penetration.qrid);
 
11:54 AM
Do users know what the app is doing Tim?
 
not really
> Why is this
because the variable is static you need no instance to access it
in case the instance is null, you have an NPE
 
user443346
I understand but what if the instance is actually needed?
 
then static makes no sense
 
user443346
I dont make an instance just for accessing the static vars
 
and by design it doesn't make sense to access an instance variable from a class instance , since the instance variable belongs to the classes and is not tied to its instances
 
user443346
11:56 AM
@MehdiB. Exactly, that's why I'm asking the question :P
 
but the definition of a static variable is that it is not instance tied
 
user443346
Guess static isn't the way to go in my situation
 
might be
 
Then Tim, I think you really don't have a choice, since you don't have a UI, notifications may be the only way to go
 
yes I am thinking the same
there is a UI, but the goal of the app is that it does not have to be opened
 
12:03 PM
I see, as for the frequency I'm not sure
 
not really a problem
people have this app because their employer says they have to install it
 
ah, so they can't get pissed off by the frequency and uninstall it
 
they can
 
12:20 PM
usually the issue is how to force someone to do something without annoying them
 
Wooooooord
 
sup yo fam homes
 
What it is brother from another realm?
 
trying to be productive on this day in between a national holiday and the weekend
 
yes, usually annoying users results in uninstalling the app :D
Monday is a day Off! Labor Day :D
 
user443346
12:28 PM
@TimCastelijns Having the same Tim, time is crawling.
 
it is peculiar that Labor basically means "work" and it is celebrated by not working
4
 
yes XD
 
@MehdiB. Where do you live? In the US Labor Day is in September, so I was confused for a moment.
 
I live in Morocco, Labor day here is the 1st of May
 
@Jordy static is almost never the way to go :p
We have Memorial Day at the end of May here
Another strange holiday... it is for dead people
 
12:37 PM
that's what I just read on wikipedia, so it's a "sad" holiday
 
@TimCastelijns From our overlords perspective, we are the labour, and we're getting a day off. It's our day - Labour day ;)
 
@Jordy oh... for final constants, static is fine... preferable even. Just remember that static means every instance shares the same value
@Graeme silly British spelling :p
 
English spelling of what language sorry...?
2
 
:D
 
Oh that's right.
:D
 
12:41 PM
lol
 
> sorry
now that is more like it, you canadian :D
 
lol tim
 
I'm still a Canadian in training
Went to Niagra on Wednesday. Beautiful
25 degrees, super sunny, very few clouds :D
 
Labour vs labor
 
might as well say clod then
 
12:42 PM
:)
 
Brits commonly use "ou" and Americans "o"
 
yeah
 
Colourful way of saying it
 
And I'm here, happy that both of them are correct, certain that whatever I write, will be correct :D
 
personally labor seems right according to pronunciation
yeah mehdi no issue at all for us
 
12:45 PM
depends on which pronunciation you mean
 
labor
 
considering british and american is different
 
so you mean they pronounce labour
 
labor - "Lay Bore"
Labour - "Lay bor (as in pour)"
 
labour: leigh beurre
 
12:47 PM
meeh personally we have our own version of english
 
Saying that, why don't Americans por themselves a drink?
3
 
Google translate agrees with Tim
 
Indian English
 
I noticed that a lot of indians finish there sentences with "right"
 
meeh never seen that
 
12:48 PM
you wouldn't see it
 
:)
 
you would hear it XD
 
in chat you see that not hear it
and btw mostly nobody talk in english at home or otherwise
 
> btw
 
unless speaking to a foreign client
 
12:50 PM
chat speak detected
ban this rule breaker
 
haha! :D
 
!!shutdown TimBot
@ColdFire or speaking to north/south indians
 
Talking about chat speak...I saw this cool TED talk from a linguist who said texting is just writing the way we speak.
As compared to speeches like the Gettysburg Address that are seaking the way we write.
Use of language fascinates me
 
Just goes to show that just because someone is talking at TED doesn't mean they're right
 
You should watch it before disagreeing
@Graeme when you speak, do you think about capitalization and punctuation?
Or spelling for that matter?
 
12:59 PM
nah m8
Neither do I think about numbers.
 

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