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3:00 PM
hmm
didn't seem to work
I replacec the \" with \n and the \\\" with nothing
 
Go and look up Java escape strings and give it another go
 
"\n" works in another replace statement
oh wait
I need to replace <br />
well that's strange
it replaces the last <br /> with br />
I guess I need to do it character by character?
 
escape all chars that need escaping
 
do any of those need escaping?
it's a literal string
 
show code
 
3:05 PM
int ind = log.lastIndexOf("<br />");
if( ind>=0 ) log = new StringBuilder(log).replace(ind, ind+1,"").toString();
 
replace(ind, ind+1 this selects 1 char
it works for \n but not for <br />
 
yeah I figured
 
That is correct
tre
 
I just made the replace for each character in <br />
works
 
better do replace(ind, ind+"<br />".length.. makes more sense
 
3:10 PM
I have been interviewing with a company, and they selected me. For now, I will be the only android dev. What do I need to prepare on my first day?
any tips?
 
coffee
 
nothing, they have to teach you how things work
 
time ot go
 
They do not bid. They said that we will develop our own ideas and will not deal with clients.
Should I take my laptop?
 
did they tell you to?
 
3:11 PM
coffee i agree
bid?
bye eric
 
They didn't said, it was too quick like "You're selected, come on Monday at 8:00"
 
you dont need to do anything
 
many indian companies take projects from Upwork and Freelancer by bidding.
 
just dress in formal and go
and yes no laptops
 
ok thanks.
 
3:14 PM
what did you discuss in the interview?
 
Things
 
how to not promote realm
 
me, my family, past life, their company, its origin, what's next big thing. And, their other businesses
it was last round
 
It's clear, then. They want you to build a company family tree
 
lol
 
3:16 PM
Their main business is Liquor and Cigarettes. having 416 shops in punjab. They have Milk business and wool products showroom.
Mainly, wholesalers.
 
but you did not talk about the work you will be doing? or how you will be doing that work?
 
liquor guys need a app developer?
are you sure
 
Not how. Not what. We discussed my android projects, a brilliant app idea, some tests.
 
did they tell you about your designation?
 
and, whats stickyIntent, last question
 
3:18 PM
hope they dont need a bar tender
 
did you talk about pay? :P
 
They started in IT last September. Now, they have 20 employees. Hoping to reach 500 in December. They said "we have lots of money to spend, so don't worry". I am expecting to be a junior.
 
@TimCastelijns there's a missing parenthesis and idk where it goes
 
you don't have to tell me :p
that is pretty private information
 
you asked?
 
3:21 PM
just wondering if you discussed the topic
 
ohh, but why?
why is it private?
 
it is sensitive information
 
yeah
what you disclosed your pay?
 
I am brushing up some GPS and HTTP knowledge.
 
yes
but if they have a lot of money to spend they can probably buy you a work computer
 
3:23 PM
well that is kinda not so private in india
 
really? oh
 
I saw some people working on laptop, and some on desktop PC
 
the most common question here
"what is your pay?"
 
I always find it really awkward when someone asks me how much I make
I rather not say
 
my answer:- why dont you just fuck off and do your own business
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well same here tim
 
3:24 PM
nice answer
 
but here people want to know everybody packages
kinda stupid mentality
 
I am always interested in what everyone else is making - totally sensible thing to want to know
 
I forgot the third argument.........
 
lol graeme
no its not sensible
he is not paying your bills neither are you paying his/hers
 
thanks.
 
3:29 PM
thanks for what?
 
information. advice. and "don't disclose your pay"
 
you can if you want to, but you shouldn't if you are not required to, or if you don't want to
 
Keeping salaries secret only helps employers. Employees are disadvantaged in negotiations if they do not know going rates for their work.
 
its fine if you disclose
 
3:32 PM
but if you are uncomfortable then dont
 
Because of the custom of not disclosing pay, the job market is not a true free market by Adam Smith's definition
 
that is true. But in my experience talking about salary difference can create awkward situation with friends
 
Yes, that is true
 
if you are a team leader or on higher position, what are the most common mistakes that newbies or juniors make?
 
3:34 PM
the biggest problem is people tend to think you are poor if your salary is less and then nobody gives a shit kind of thing happens
this happens in india mostly^
 
newbies are sometimes afraid to ask questions
 
not sure about other countries
 
ohh
CF - I think that helps if your MD is a female.
 
Would be helpful if there was a way to get reliable data for any position without all the social baggage that goes with talking about money
 
"Feels" occur.
 
3:35 PM
yes
 
newbies are afraid of making mistakes
rupin regarding which statement you replied i didnt get?
 
Glassdoor and Payscale are great ideas, but unfortunately rely on voluntary disclosure
 
@Code-Apprentice I always enjoy reading the results of SO's yearly survey. It has salary stats. It is not representative probably, but can give an idea
 
well good thing for me nobody in my relatives dare to ask me about salary
 
Yeah, it is a start at least
 
3:37 PM
mine is female too. She said even if you don't get selected, I will help you in further study.
> the biggest problem is people tend to think you are poor if your salary is less and then nobody gives a shit kind of thing happens
 
yeah that is nice
 
I'm completely open about my salary
if anyone asks I'd tell them
 
oh regarding that i am not so sure about that rupin
it totally depends on the person
 
Not sure about putting it on Glassdoor just because the CEO would know I've posted it
and I'm not sure if they'd like salaries disclosed
 
well then mark tell us
 
3:38 PM
£25k
 
we will start collecting data with you
 
What is your position, Mark?
 
lol i was only kidding :/
 
Mobile Software Developer
 
cool
 
3:39 PM
it's the average graduate salary in Edinburgh
 
1 year experience?
 
I'll have one year come June
I was a fresh graduate
 
What is that symbol? :p
 
oh then its nice salary
 
but had done Android projects in spare time at uni
 
3:40 PM
pound
 
pound
 
Time to go~~
 
cya people!! :D
 
bye ~~~
 
3:40 PM
I think I could get £27.5k - £30k if I switched and joined another company
 
I can't spend pounds
 
Do you guys not like to disclose your salary?
 
I'm not in a tech job right now
Other than a small consulting job during my spare time
 
I do not like to tell people I make more than they do. Being in IT, we make more than almost everybody
 
woh more than most
 
3:42 PM
Have you ever been outright asked before Tim?
 
in india its reverse i guess
 
What about among other IT workers? @TimCastelijns
 
and I just sit at a desk all day
 
@TimCastelijns That's the key to executive sitting and doing nothing all day peacefully vs. executive having their browsing histories leaked accidentally
 
in india a tea seller earns more than a fresh graduate
 
3:43 PM
hehe true
 
I don't understand people who act differently with people whenever they find out their salary, it's silly.
 
Well, we are also ruled by a tea seller
 
lol true
well better than some italian bitch
deport her already
 
@MarkO'Sullivan it's very personal. You and I, we are down to earth people, we don't care, but some people will feel envious, or feel undervalued, or downright offended that you make more money while you are the same age and went to the same school. Only you choose a different career path
 
governments always have to be bad
 
3:46 PM
Tim is always right apart form realm that is
wait that is almost 50 %
 
Comparing is bad.
 
what comparison?
are you favouring congress?
 
your friends will you to get them a position in your company because you make a lot than they does.
 
Yeah true but at the end of the day people make life choices and that is reflected in their job, salary, career path, etc. There's also people who earn £40k but can't save it, so spend it all unnecessarily whereas someone on £25k is more wise and so would do better with their money. Of course it's harder if you're on a lower salary.
 
nope, I agreed to The Tim.
 
3:48 PM
If you feel that someone is less than you because they make less money than you, you're looking at the wrong things in life
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well most poeple think that way
 
I recognise there's a lot of people I went to school with who'll eventually be doctor's, dentists, financial people and will probably get paid quite a bit more than me and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm happy doing what I'm doing and it's hard for a lot of people to say that.
 
Most people are idiots
 
well sure
 
> Most people are idiots
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Sadly true
 
3:49 PM
> I'm happy doing what I'm doing
me too.
 
well its good for us
otherwise we wont be earning that much
 
I went to high school with a lot of kids who came from wealthy/political families
 
because of stupid people smart are rich
 
Some of my closest friends will inherit more than I'll probably make in a few lifetimes
They're some of the nicest people I know
And there were some in a similar category who would be nicer once put through a wood chipper
 
@RaghavSood nobody said that
 
3:51 PM
Nobody here said that
 
I know plenty like that irl
 
I thought it was an Indian/Asian thing, but I've found just as many in the US who follow that line of thought
 
I just love the way every single one of us has the potential to make a lot of money through tech if we have the determination and luck by launching our own startup
 
3:52 PM
> luck
you said it :P
 
lol
i am sure Tim can be millionaire , if he uses the time he promotes realm in other productive things
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but if you launch a startup, you will be doing administration half the time. It is no fun
 
Yeah but it's still nice knowing that. Like compared to other industries where it's a lot harder to start your own business
 
@ColdFire xD
 
:)
well i need a house in netherland after you become millionaire, because it was my idea :)
 
3:55 PM
or if I didn't spend half the day chatting in here
 
lol true that
we should charge people with 50$ hour in this room
anyone asking for help
 
We should have a BLE jar, anytime anyone mentions it, they have to put in $5. Just cause it pains all of us who worked on it when we see those 3 letters together.
 
give me free-pass
 
May 23 '14 at 23:55, by Raghav Sood
To receive help, you must first upgrade to Room 15 Pro for $99 a year. Payments may be made via PayPal to my firstname.lastname at the rate gmail.com. Thank you
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lol raghav
@MarkO'Sullivan yeah
rupin no concession for you
same rates apply
 
4:00 PM
loan?
 
hehe 99$ a year is just 6.5k a year
 
thats a lot for my current situation
Oh, and just saw today, that android O is coming soon.
 
so, no new Kitkat apps now?
 
Android O was announced Friday, I think
The developer preview was released the end of last week at least.
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4:05 PM
o/
 
hmm...was announced on Tuesday, it seems. Somehow I missed that feed.
o\ Carl
so my kitten seems to enjoy the toy I got for her last week
 
o/ carl
 
It is difficult to get a clear pic of her, though, since she moves around a lot...I need to train her to pose for the camera.
 
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that's me
 
4:16 PM
ooooh
I think they have images for O in AS now
 
that's shiny
 
26.0.0
 
yes, O images have been available for a week
 
Not on AS :O
 
Yes, in AS
 
4:16 PM
:O
 
2.4 Preview
Does 2.3 have them now, too?
 
:O
 
I'm not sure
 
nope 2.3 doesnt have them
 
downloading updates as we speak
don't ruin my dreams CF :(
 
lol dreams
well its samsung
 
God damn they're not there
 
The 2.4 Preview has had the O images since it was released last week
 
well told you mark
 
afaik, that's the only way to get them
 
4:18 PM
i have already checked it
 
downloading from that shiny new site. I like how they updated it to look like developer.android.com
 
i hope it is as fast as it is shiny
 
I'm going back to Beta channel
which doesn't have it
but will before Stable
 
also need to download more of SC2 today. My connection is terribad ;-(
 
i am trying to extend a RL but i have a issue
 
4:20 PM
Sim City 2?
Star Craft 2?
 
since RL has 4 constructor since 21
 
Star Craft =p
@ColdFire RL == Real Life? I have lots of RL issues.
 
the 4th constructor is giving me a error :/
 
@Code-Apprentice ooh, adaptive icons. That looks interesting
 
Prefer composition over inheritence
 
4:21 PM
should i just ignore or wrap it in a api check call
i cannot do that RL is not in my code
 
@Zacharee1 I like the notification channels. Especially from a user perspective.
And Java 8 features!
 
well until those features are backward compatible its no use
 
eventually enough people will have a Big O.
 
they should at least support 4.0+ with those java 8 features
we are at least 5 years away from that
 
I'm sure much of it will be available with appcompat. Any Java 8 features that compile to the same byte codes as Java 7 should be available, too. Not sure if Java 8 adds any new byte codes.
Not sure about new Java 8 APIs, either. Maybe those will be in an support lib?
 
4:26 PM
nope support libs cant help that unless the same byte code is there as you already stated
 
APIs are separate from the byte code issue
unless the API uses a new language feature that compiles to a new byte code, that is.
by "separate", I mean "orthogonal"
 
well that is what i said
 
so support libs can help
 
you do realize we are saying same thing just using different words right?
 
I'm just confused why you started your sentence with "nope" then
on another topic, I wonder how many people are making double-entendres about Android O
 
4:33 PM
because i am thinking they are quite a lot of bytecode changes
 
bytecode changes are completely orthogonal to new APIs.
I haven't kept up with Java changes, myself, so I don't know what Java 8 even offers in either category
 
lots of stuff java 8 offers
 
Star craft! I love it
 
4:48 PM
I made some JS to toggle the past hackathons from MLH.io @McAdam331
 
damn so fast they are releasing updates to support libs
 
TouchWiz's default app selection is really annoying
there's no "only once" option
 
touchwiz is annoying
 
TouchWiz is terrible
 
and please no samsung shit
 
4:53 PM
I still don't understand why Samsung uses OLED screens and light colors
 
@TimCastelijns I'll wait until I actually play that far. I just barely started Wings of Liberty.
 
Enjoy. I find SC to have one of the best storylines of all time
 
I enjoyed the story from the original and BW
I only played like 6 missions in WOL so far. And I'm already trying some multiplayer.
I got my ass kicked in every 1v1 game I have played so far.
 
I was never good at it either
 
pc or ps game?
 
4:56 PM
too much multitasking for me
pc
 
\o/
awesome
 
I could hold my own in mutliplayer SC1 and BW.
 
well play CNCG awesome game
 
4:58 PM
command and conquer generals
 
ahh...I played Tiberian Sun a little, but didn't get very far in the campaign.
 
well its quite hard
also gives nuclear and other shit
i like how chinese have special ability as hacking lol
 
I need to get a desk and a decent chair. I'm trying to play SC2 sitting on the floor with my monitor on the coffee table
doh! bnet just went down for maintenance for about 2 hours.
kindda silly that you can't play the campaign without bnet.
 
If you download Android O images inside your existing SDK installation, will they be available in AS 2.3?
 
5:11 PM
that's the architecture decision that totally killed sim city 2013
 
never played it
it has an online component?
 
yeah, the cities you created were supposed to be next to other cities other players created
so their success could increase your success or something
the game was super bloated, buggy, and the servers went down regularly, which meant that nobody could play
I never bought it. Might have if it hadn't had so many problems.
 
oh
 
they wanna replace call centers by Alexa
 
5:29 PM
o/
 
o/ triangle
 

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