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9:00 AM
wake up at ~7 , shower finish at ~7:25, at work at 8, lunch at 14, work again at 14:30, oficially end work at 17
 
You take 50 minutes to prepare.
Anyone has tried retrofit + dagger2 + rx java + data binding combination ?
 
I just snooze for an hour.. I cannot get up in the mornings
 
haha
nope ronak
 
^ i am woken up by my room's light and a coffe+milk mug.
if not by that i coulnd't woke up.
 
Eric , Warren must have tried it :)
I put alarm in far distance so I can hear sound but to snooze or cancel I must have to walk.
This is the only way I can wake up myself in the morning.
 
9:03 AM
nice
 
I am worried about first 15 minutes in the morning.
Probability of sleep again is higher
 
yeah
 
it also doesn't matter if I sleep 4 hours or 8 hours, I'm always tired when I wake and I don't want to get out :(
 
if i close my eyes just after waking up
i can legitly wake up 4 hours later.
 
Eric , yeah for ?
 
9:05 AM
thinking just 5 seconds happened
 
TRUE ERIC
 
probabilty of sleep thing
 
okay
sometimes*
 
sometimes
like, only when it's making sound :p
 
Thanks Tim :)
 
9:09 AM
haha
 
thats why I never turn off my alarm, I always hit snooze and turn it off only when I am already in the bathroom. Than again I manage to do that for 3h... at least before I became a father. Now I have some responsibilities... or so :D
 
Yeah and asking question why you always ring on time.
Warren you right.
 
Same warren.. do you also sometimes unconsciously turn off the alarm?
while desperately trying to snooze, you just hit all buttons with your eyes closed
 
best alarm is a good wake-up partner / parents :P
 
i dont use alarms
 
9:11 AM
Tim , I think I did it when I was very tired.
 
i let myself get woken up
 
like, my gf has an alarm set each 5 minutes in a -15 and +15 minutes range of the wake-up time.
 
CF How ?
 
nothing once i get 8 hours of sleep i woke up
 
@TimCastelijns sometimes? Well, What helps is an alarm clock called "daughter"
 
9:13 AM
I usually empty my battery with snoozing
 
I need to get me one of those
 
haha netpork
@TimCastelijns lol daughter you mean?
 
then you probably sleep for 8 hrs :)
Ask to warren
 
hehe it would take lot of work to get that Tim
 
9:14 AM
I can't remember when I slept 8h straight
 
at the beginning very hard to get continuous 5 hours sleep
exact.
 
@RonakMehta you mean me?
 
I manage to get more than 8h of sleep from time to time when I hit the bed at 8pm, but never without interruptions
 
CF no
Warren , don't you think 8 PM is too early.
 
btw you guys have dream or do you remember dream when you woke up?
 
9:16 AM
CF , I have heard a dream lifecycle
 
some days you are just drained completely at 8pm. With kids, I imagine that is every day
 
i actually never as if i dont dream at all
so very sound sleep i get
 
"too early"? To be honest, you use the chance when you can catch up some missed sleep hours by hitting the bed that early from time to time
it is like a battery recharge
 
when you wake up you have 15 minutes to recall your dreams (70% of)
 
like recharging a spare battery i guess warren
 
9:18 AM
not a spare :) the main battery
 
@RonakMehta then i am like 70% sure i dont dream at all
 
Warren , but I use to sleep 12 or 1 and wake up at 7 - 7:30
 
@TimCastelijns that robot looks awesome :D
 
currently I fight hard to go to sleep around 11pm
 
I have tried many time to sleep at 10 but it wasn't possible for me.
Sometime I have spend 2 hrs in the bed without sleeping.
and I was just moving myself here and there
 
9:19 AM
i avoid sleeping. 5 hours max.
 
It takes me 5 mins in the bus to get to work but sometimes it takes me forever to get out of my bed, once I'm finally up it takes me ~15min to get ready
 
ghost rupinder
 
today I was in at 9.30, I'll leave at 5.30
 
I once convinced myself that as long as you're in the bed not doing anything, it counts as sleeping as well
 
My daughter goes to sleep around 6pm, wants something to drink around 11pm, 2am and 5:30am (bad nights, good nights with only 11pm and 4am). If I am lucky, she starts to sleep for another hour so I can get up at 6:30
 
9:19 AM
Rupi you gonna reduce it to 1 hr then ZERO , iron man
 
i'm amazed at northern european sleep time
and lunch time
 
to get her to daycare I stand up around 6 to have 30 minutes for myself
 
Walk up to bus stop, wait for bus which takes 5 min to get back to my flat, head to gym (unless it's rest day) get back, take protein shake, start cooking dinner, have shower, have dinner, wash dishes, then relax for the rest of the night
 
Mark , nice schedule.
 
dedication can keep you up for longer times, lazyness can make you sleepy all the day.
 
9:20 AM
Same for me mark, but longer travel times
 
mark nice
 
I knew if I started that routine of going to the gym it'd be good in the long run
I hadn't been going during my final year of uni but I try and stick to routine so I'm always getting everything done and having a couple hours to spare
last night i think I was having my dinner at 9pm which still left me like 2 hours to do whatever
 
At least I lost my insomnia since I became a father
 
What age is your daughter @WarrenFaith?
 
you really start to learn sleeping fast if you are constantly on the edge of sleeping while standing
13 month
 
9:22 AM
I can image a lack of sleep will destroy me when I eventually have kids
 
yeah
 
not really, you just learn to change your schedule to other priorities
 
brb
 
As warren said , you can hit to bed at 8 PM and wake up at 12
 
The only thing is with my routine, I don't really want to work on personal projects because then I'll be working on them during all my free time :D Sometimes do some personal projects when I'm off, can get bored on a Saturday / Sunday afternoon
 
9:24 AM
Your sleep is getting divided.
 
@MarkOSullivan94 same! I have this list of stuff I want to try out or experiment with or read.. but I never do it because I feel like I've done enough programming stuff at work all day..
 
Does everyone here work on a personal project outside of their work?
 
I do, but not at the rate I would love to do it
 
That's how I feel most of the time @TimCastelijns, I try and read programming related stuff at work though because it helps towards my learning (or so I would argue)
 
not sure why.. I might be occupied by other stuff
 
9:25 AM
@WarrenFaith every night?
 
hum? Not sure I get you
 
Sorry, I meant you work on personal projects every day? Or is it once / twice a week?
 
If I am lucky twice a week
barely ever longer than 2h, so basically not countable
 
Is that since you had your daughter or has that been like that for a while?
 
for quite a while
 
9:28 AM
you can lie down on this couch for a bit if you want
 
when you have a wife you need to make sure she does something as well, which is not always easy :D
 
@MarkOSullivan94 me
 
In india , generally wife takes care of baby at night time
 
tht is not true anymore , ronak
 
CF how much time do you work on personal projects?
I managed to finally put something on my web domain the other weekend :D
 
9:30 AM
2-3 hours a day , all day on weekends
 
had the domain since April 2016, so it's been sitting there for a while without being used
 
don't you ever get tired of that CF?
 
CF , In most cases I have seen that.
 
@RonakMehta I guess that depends on culture and personal preference but we try to split it as even as possible
 
Wow, how do you keep that up CF? Do you not get burnt out?
 
9:31 AM
Warren , Totally agree with you.
 
@TimCastelijns i dont have a choice
 
my wife does a lot of the daily routine so I at least make sure she gets the sleep she needs
 
Not even burnt out, do you not like playing games? Or watching some TV shows? :D
 
I can compensate with coffee
 
It's a personal project right? You get to choose whether or not you do it?
 
9:31 AM
CF , Are you sitting on fire ?
 
nice warren
 
Football Manager, CS:GO, Game of Thrones, Mr Robot.. my nights have involved them recently
 
Warren , I like the way.
 
@MarkOSullivan94 sure i watch anime, TV sometimes, but games i left playing waste too much time
GOT finished
rest of them never heard
CS played too much not anymore
 
CF why do you say you don't have a choice on working on your personal projects?
 
9:32 AM
my salary isnt sufficient
 
CS takes a long time which is why I like Football Manager, can load it up and play one game, get beat and get annoyed then turn it off
 
@WarrenFaith wow I wish I were in the same country as you :P
 
even my monthly expense isnt covered in salary
 
Shit. That sucks!
 
@MarkOSullivan94 you can do that same with CS
 
9:33 AM
Ya but CS can take up to 1hr 30min for 1 game
 
in india employment is super cheap
freshers get 400$ a month generally
 
CF this is everywhere,
 
some get 100$ a month
 
CF, Probably not everwhere in my city $200 monthyl
This sucks.
 
CF are you working on your own app or freelance apps?
 
9:35 AM
I used to think playing games was a waste of time. Nowadays I consider it a means to be able to relax. Relaxing is important I think
 
in my company a tester was getting 45.14$ a month
 
Mark, I do such a manager game as a private project :D
 
CF , must be kidding.
whats in INR ?
 
@MarkOSullivan94 own and also available for hire
@RonakMehta 3000-INR
 
How ?
 
9:36 AM
3000 - INR :O
 
3000 INR is possible for trainee
 
well no minimum wage law
 
If I am not wrong.
 
@TimCastelijns that's what I think. It's definitely important being able to switch off and relax. I tend to go out for drinks with people during the weekends, can't do that without feeling tired during the weekend :D
Ooooh @WarrenFaith tell me more
I love manager games
I have no idea why
 
but I like to play in free time
 
9:36 AM
@RonakMehta well they hire on contract for 12 months for 3k does it matter
@MarkOSullivan94 nice games
 
I've been playing a web browser game where you manage MMA fighters for over 6 years :|
 
I have never heard of this rate
 
:P I am done a "click dummy" so far, so there is nothing playable yet but I hopefully will start doing real game logic sooner than later
 
matter of fact they get a employee for 3k INR
 
9:37 AM
i used to play MafiaWars on fb
and Farmville
and COC on mobile
good old days
 
I thought MAfia
 
Those games are a pain, having to wait before you can do anything
Clash Royale is where it's at! :D
 
haha yeah mark
 
I suck at UX and design so I stick with default UI widgets... would love to have a designer available
 
i am an average designer
 
9:39 AM
I don't like CR
 
avg? :D
 
COC is ok
 
@WarrenFaith is it an Android app? :s
 
I would love to have a designer available at the company where I work but nope gotta do it myself :D
 
sure it is, Mark :D
 
9:39 AM
avg = average
 
that was not the point Tim :D
 
i thought this shortform is well known
 
Default UI elements are fine @WarrenFaith, stop with the excuses, just get it made :p
I need my manager fix
Is it a sport manager game?
 
CF I think avg is chat speak like bc
 
yeah, basically a football manager (soccer for those nutjobs :D)
 
9:40 AM
CF, money doesn't motivate me really
 
really Tim? no idea i think it is POB
i see mark
 
It's good to have but I'd rather be working somewhere where I'm happy and earning enough to support myself and a family (though I think this is your reasoning here)
sometimes you earn a lot but work somewhere shit
@WarrenFaith you not like Football Manager? :o
 
well i dont work somewhere shit
my own apps and i like developing those
 
@MarkOSullivan94 do you like rpg games?
 
> power metal, heavy metal and glam playlist for the whole morning
who needs coffee with aerosmith as soundtrack?
 
9:44 AM
I lost track of this conversation way back
 
haha raghav
not night there? raghav
 
I'm in Singapore
 
What "Football Manager" do you mean directly?
 
i see what time it is there?
 
1745
 
9:45 AM
woah
@RaghavSood ready your muskets
the french are invading quebec
 
aah only 2:30 hour difference
pokemon craze came and went
 
user image
3
@RaghavSood more than 250 years behind. Damn and you already have Internet?
 
he timewrap and took internet with him
 
lol warren nice comic
Raghav is cool enough to invent space-time travel and internet and only tell a bunch of mates. like Tesla, and Verne.
 
@Kaushik I loved Elder Scrolls and Fallout (haven't played the new one though)
 
9:50 AM
wait elder scroll is a RPG @MarkOSullivan94
 
@WarrenFaith Sports Interactive's Football Manager
 
Good Morning Everyone!!! :D
 
morning w0mp
 
morning Womp
 
Morning
 
9:52 AM
is showing ads like this allowed by google?
 
i think setting visibility off is a problem
 
I think, SO needs a serious mobile app right now, like this SO chat
 
agreed law
 
what do i do to remove it if there is no internet?
 
SE has a good app, but chat in app is weird
 
9:53 AM
do nothing
rupinder
 
@ColdFire I thought it was an RPG?
 
@MarkOSullivan94 well i am asking too?
 
the empty space for ad makes my UI bad if there is no ad
 
all elder scrolls are rpg's
show a default ad
 
dont worry about that
 
9:54 AM
CF - did you tried berserk?
Skyrim is my favourite
 
yes watched complete
 
or a "uh oh, i couldn't load an ad, maybe you don't have internet?"
 
season 1 and 2
eric there is a refresh interval
what happen on a refresh
 
ad loads
 
hm?
 
9:55 AM
you have to check the refresh case
ads are automatically refreshed every 60 sec
 
yes it loads the ad.
why is changing visibility bad? i am only changing if ad didnt load, and set visible when it loads
 
you need to check admob policy first
 
ok then.
 
AFAIR they were banning apps that toggle visibility with adView
 
don't use admob
 
9:58 AM
what else then
yeah i saw that too, thats why i asked
 
@MeesamAbbas You need at least 80 rep to talk here, among other things: room-15.github.io
@ABC You need at least 80 rep to talk here, among other things: room-15.github.io
@CptEric Too inaccurate, I prefer canons
@WarrenFaith RFC 2549
 
CF - if you want to know full story behind berserk, you can read manga. it is not boring, there is a lot more. In 3rd movie. and in Manga. I found a nice tribute here youtube.com/watch?v=NiD4GEK_F80
 
yes probably will
looks like a very good story
@RaghavSood that is still 1999
 
Birds have been around longer, should work
 
do you use torrents? i have a good scan link if you want
 
10:02 AM
sure
 
I'm pretty sure torrents aren't allowed here?
 
i will link him in private :)
talking about them isn't bad.
 
mark probably
 
Most chat rooms I've been to, you can't talk about stuff which could get you in trouble with the law
well, I think you can talk about them but certainly not share links
 
yeah sure.
 
TLDR?
 
It's one thing that you track down her facebook profile, but to share that here is just odd
 
lucky me can't open as I am not on facebook
 
@TimCastelijns right
@WarrenFaith you can open even if you are not on facebook
 
10:36 AM
Word up
Why did none of you tell me about pen pineapple apple pen?
I had to learn it from the rest of the internet like a chump.
 
pen what?
 
nope I can't because it says the page does not exists
 
wow i have tried many times without login to facebook and it works, perhaps she has some privacy settings on
 
I think I'll stay a chump for a bit longer
 
10:41 AM
haha
 
same here
 
Tim , i got a windows laptop
 
fucking apple
 
yes that is why i am happy no need for macbook now
 
10:45 AM
full mac is lagging down just because xcode is updating
 
sorry!
 
?
i noticed one thing AS is very fast on linux
slow on windows and mac
 
Everything is fast on linux :)
 
@TimCastelijns damn, missed out on a chance to see a funny SO question :D
 
the one I linked?
 
10:48 AM
not sure about that Tim
 
wow Tim
that question is WTF
 
worst wall of text I have read in quite a while
 
warren about the application class approach , i am coding that in a library so a base application in lib and in app extends that application class?
is that good or i need to do something else?
 
hm... application stuff is always tricky with a lib because you can't have two libs that are extending the application class plus you need to differ between multidex and normal as well
sure you want that when using a lib?
what about the wrapper solution?
 
10:57 AM
yes my logic is common in all apps so it is in a lib
wrapper that will require context right?
 
and you always have a context available
but yes
but you are more flexible with the wrapper solution than the application extending
 
you mean take context from application and use it in a wrapper?
 
yes
 
ok that sounds better than application class
gonna give that a try
 

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