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12:03 AM
Hey Mauk Mauk
 
just an hour later tristan
 
Fuck you <3
Mauker did you ever own a Gameboy? XD
 
I did
A GBC
 
Still have it?
 
12:28 AM
nope
 
12:56 AM
yo!
@carl Bellevue is so beautiful
 
 
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3:38 AM
o/
 
o/
 
 
1 hour later…
4:47 AM
good morning guys
 
5:08 AM
Heyo o/
 
5:22 AM
i stuck at 49 stars since 1 week lol >.< feels bad man
to add to my miseries my motherboard's cpu power unit decided tofail
had to spent around 50$ to get a new LGA1150 socket motherboard, and I have to send the current broken one for RMA
 
6:12 AM
o/
 
so nuts... they blocked the outgoing SSH port... IT department just said: if you still need ssh, just move the port at the server
fucking nuts
\o
 
hello all
 
Warren, makes me remember wiki.uberspace.de/… :D
 
yeah, it is total fun to be not fucking able to work with github or bitbucket via git over ssh anymore....
 
@WarrenFaith "If you need me to get my work done, just move the IT department into their severance packages"
 
6:22 AM
^^
 
try negotiating, maybe they agree to block port 80 instead
 
the fun part is: I have a standalone DSL connection at my desk. When I use that connection, I am totally free
but I can't access internal servers and I am not sure why the hell my OS does not try to reach the destination via both connections
 
Different LANs, probably
 
so my solution: toggling my primary, partly blocked connection on/off
 
You can try manually configuring your DNS
Or set up iptables to route DNS queries through the company connection, but SSH through DSL
But that might fail if internal services aren't internet accessible
 
6:24 AM
they aren't
 
Well, at least they got that part right
 
luckily toggling on/off just takes a second
but it is just annoying as fuck
 
Configure a key combo to do it?
 
did you try to explain them/their|your boss that it's nonsense to block the port?
 
yeah, I will make a magic sentence like "My company sucks" or so
 
6:26 AM
Sneak in to their office and leave 22 chickens
It serves no purpose, but it's annoying as fuck
 
^^
OMG!
 
Suddenly, German
 
Short translation: A 40 years old swiss female raged at a local store center and cursed at "immigrants" and lookalikes. She even slapped one in the face
as the police came and asked here: wtf is going on, she raged about "too many immigrants living in the swiss"
the police told her: Well, you are in Germany, the swiss border is right across there
she then just went back to the border to probably go back to swiss
 
good morning
 
6:58 AM
LOL warren
yo eric
I was so confused why you're already awake
this 9 hour difference is weird
 
yeah, seeing you 9h behind is bugging me, really a shame that you let yourself go this much... you once were at our pace, top notch, skilled and shit. Riding the wave ahead of the mainstream... but nowadays... man you lost it!
:P
 
lol
 
7:19 AM
coffee timeee
monster sound
 
o/
coffee machine at work is broken :'(
 
damn
 
that's why I always carry a manual coffee grinder with me
 
we've been forgettign to purchase nespresso capsules for 10 days already
and the coffe from the machine makes you go to the bathroom 4x the normal rate
like currently i feel a volcano in my tummy and it's just been like 10 minutes since i drinked it.
 
capsules... what a waste of money
 
7:30 AM
yeah, plus the real waste
 
indeed
filtered coffee FTW
 
yeah, filtered coffee. but people at work are savages... you cannot trust them with a coffee maker
 
meh fitered coffe is just coffee tea.
i'd need a expresso machine or a gas kitchen
 
you just need this: google.de/…
customizable to have your own espresso intensity
 
cascara is coffee tea
and tastes good :)
 
7:38 AM
yeah, but it requires a heat producing source
 
you have your cpu
don't be so uncreative!
 
we've had greca coffee machines ( that type of coffee pot) since the 1930's
not enough heat
it's a mac mini.
if i had a MBP i could run any >2010 game on it and produce enough gpu heat to cook a 500gr steak, but it's not the case.
 
my Galaxy Nexus creates enough heat for our planet...
 
NEWS HEADER warren is global warming's cause. let's burn him at a stake.
^^
 
No need to burn me, I already am...
 
7:56 AM
oh man i'm so tired
and it's just monday
i spent the whole weekend in a medieval reenactment
 
photos?
 
not for now, the photographer must be sleeping
i should too
feedback report : the device connects too slowly after being disconnected.
what i should answer : the device connects too slow because it's a 20€ oximeter made in china with a crappy controller.
what i might answer : device-side connectivity problems can't be solved through the app's programming.
 
> "Please make it like Google Fotos does"
"Please pay us like Google does"
 
^
 
\o
 
8:06 AM
yo
 
I feel like after a point I'm just gambling with the amount I fly
 
8:35 AM
o/
 
8:50 AM
Morning
 
morning
 
Good Morning Everyone~~ :D
 
> Bug report: Animations are too fast, you can't see them!
Answer: Please do not use devices from the test farm. They have animations disabled! Closed...
 
@Reno I was booking for my parents, brother, and I. I am the kids in this equation :P
 
9:08 AM
Morning
 
morningg
 
\o
 
how is everybody doing? Probably not that great since it's monday
 
okish
 
9:24 AM
boring monday
 
Tim, boring day.
 
9:37 AM
o/
fine, thanks, doing some web design
how about you, Tim?
 
not sure
I'm the only android dev here working almost fulltime on 1 project and just heard I may get 3 more projects soon
 
Is there a built in way to "bounce" a Drawer layout in Android?
 
bounce?
 
boink boink
 
using reflection you could modify the interopolator variable of the drawer layout and give it a shot
 
9:47 AM
Like, er, for(int openBy : new int[] { 100, 30, 10 }) { animateOpenByPx(openBy); animateClosed(); }
 
@CodeGeek welcome to the room. Please read the room rules
 
Tim , Good luck
 
fixing crashes monday, very boring
 
10:21 AM
@AbdulWasae rejected. Please improve your question/answer ratio before requesting access again. Details about our room requirements: room-15.github.io
you know your ticket system is shit when it tells you, that you are using an unsupported browser when you are using chrome
 
looks interesting github.com/MaksTuev/ferro what do you guys think?
 
This is similar to dagger ?
 
dagger is a library for DI
it is an injector
 
Yes
 
Ferro's readme states that it uses MVP
 
10:32 AM
RB, I can read that.
 
cool
 
I really don't know dagger :)
 
ah ok
are you familiar with the concept of dependency injection ?
 
Yes, ButterKnife
 
no, you are not
 
10:38 AM
Okay, then can you help me to understand.
 
well I really like that freeze aspect of that architecture
I think he does it by manually subscribing and unsubscribing to an observable in the classes he asks us to extend (i.e MvpRxPesenter) and keeps holding on to the observable instance in that class, I really like that feature lol
maybe I can just steal that part of the library :P
 
11:07 AM
lol
 
Dependency Inject - A way to mutilate you're beautiful code for little to no benefit
 
depends on the right hands it can be quite elegant imo
 
that's your opinion
 
but dagger just messes everything up
too verbose, almost removes the advantages you get from DI, but the "scopes" feature saves it :D
 
and on the definition of beautiful code
 
11:16 AM
BB - So why do you like dependency injection (as per Dagger)
 
dagger is not DI.
 
im stuck in a situation where I need to persist a set of objects, but these objects, but the place where I can actually persist them I have these objects via their interface and not the concrete implementation
i dont know what to do now, convert them to json, but when retrieve it back from json idk which implementation of the interface its going to be >.<
 
You gonna convert interface through Gson?
Wut?
 
well I can write a toJson() method in the interface and have the implementations extend it
so converting to json isnt difficult
what if i save these objects as Blobs in the database? is that good?
 
dunno, no clue
 
11:20 AM
I don't understand how "DI" frameworks give you any advantages over simply using an Interface
Granted, my mind shuts down halfway through reading about DI for the same reason which doesn't help
 
well you can let the framework take care of how the objects are instantiated and the order in which they are instantiated and in dagger you can also let it take care of scoping
and in classes where you use these objects, you just need to write one statement to inject em
 
i will be dead cold before i try another Square library
 
@Blackbelt care to elaborate on that ?
why the square hate eric?
 
In the implementation of dagger I encountered, it helped absolutely nothing apart from to get in the way. Didn't solve any problem and removing it solved a lot of issues and old unused code.
 
Because Eric loves IONIC XD
 
11:23 AM
lo
 
because square as a whole produces a lot of shitty documentation i don't want to be related with in any way.
 
to elaborate on what ?
 
dagger not being a DI framework
 
their libraries are pretty good though, lots of SO stuff about them
widely used
 
i'd like to know why you think that lol
no hostility intended
 
11:25 AM
I would only use the simple ones mind you, ButterKnife, Timer, Picasso etc
 
timer?
nah Glide is better than Picasso imo, picasso too heavy
 
butterknife is a jake wharton independent lib
 
What about Fresco?
 
Jacque Fresco?
 
11:26 AM
Koush's ion is lighter than picasso too.
 
and it does networking too lol
 
Fresco is a mess from what i heard
 
yes looks like a mess to me
 
very good for images, better than all but over complicated
 
So many of these things are so small I'd rather write them myself than use a library. More flexibility. But that's just me :)
 
11:28 AM
also I thought Picasso was lighter than glide
 
complicated as in? in usage?
Or heavy you mean?
 
is it heavy?
 
@Dude welcome to the room, please make sure that you have read the rules: room-15.github.io
 
can't remember, read a very good article on it ages ago
it's why the facebook app takes ages to install updates
 
thank you
 
11:29 AM
or part of the reason
 
@RED_ lol wut?
 
Picasso.is(not).really(heavy).atAll({ not even a slightly bit; }).really().Builder.Build();
 
haha ^
@Dude welcome
 
thank you buddy
 
the last one should be .build not .builder()
:D
 
11:30 AM
^^
 
@RED_ glide is lighter than picasso
^^
@Dude welcome buddy
 
fixed
 
functions in caps, gg
 
looks good now, ok ship it !
 
Warren - I still say people should be specifically warned if they don't read the rules they will get judged by the mods :P
 
11:30 AM
lol
 
thank you ankit
 
@Ahmad / @McAdam331 i now hate you because i can't work anymore without JodaTime
 
I already read the rules
 
i was happy with calendars and deprecated shits.
read them again.
 
really? Joda time thats heavy as f*ck
 
11:32 AM
:)
 
yeah just looked into it, glide has a smaller memory footprint
 
damn might think about switching
 
do you have lot of String to date parsing?
 
Yeah, I'm looking forward to kicking out Joda time too. I just can't be bothered to replace it myself :P
 
11:32 AM
but it's Easy to use and has thousands of doc pages
instead of half a page of copy-pasted non-working code.
 
@Dude he is talking about this Your first message must be “I have read and understood the rules”.
 
^
 
get this now
 
+ all the other rules that should be readed.
 
Ankit - Doesn't work if you tell people :P
 
11:33 AM
hehe ok
 
All I need to replace Joda is a SimpleDateFormat too :P
 
well if you had written wrapper around it it would have been a lot easier
 
I missed that point no 6
:(
 
and the IsAfter, isBefore, quick TimeZone formatting, "WithDayOfMonth(30)", etc...
i could do all of this myself but i don't have time to mantain it.
 
I have read and understood both dependency injection and dependency injectors - the latter of which is a giant code obfuscating nightmare that serves no purpose except to make you not have to write a factory :P
 
11:35 AM
^
 
Which, weirdly, makes you have to write a factory in each injectors own way.
 
i still don't need it, and hope i won't ever need it.
 
I can't see a single instance of when you would ever need it. But am happy to be proved wrong?
 
well wrappers are good and i was not talking about injectors
@Graeme in libraries and core OS Those things are used
 
So?
 
11:38 AM
a gazllion method & model app maybe could use it for cleaning up some bits of code but at the same time it would be obfuscating the app's or lib's flow :I
 
and anyways i was saying about a wrapper not a pattern
@CptEric ??????????????
 
that ping was extremely unnecessary-
 
well otherwise you couldnt have known i was referring to you
 
There is nothing different between MyObject myObject = new MyObject(getInjectedObject()); and MyObject myObject = DependencyInjector.getInstance(MyObject.class);
 
you could always type my name without the @, you know.
 
11:40 AM
oki
 
Apart from you can jump around the dependencies in the first one and not the second one.
 
the difference is that your client is delegating the instantiation to the injector
 
Nope, in the first instance you're delegating the construction to a method rather than an injector. You're just as "blind" as to what you get back.
 
a method of the injector
and you are not blind
the type is forced at compile time. it is not returning an instance of Object
 
Same with Injectors
Both must return an object of a specific type
 
11:43 AM
the difference is, again, that the creation of that instance is delegated.
 
Nope, both are delegated.
Injectors add at best unified structures to your factories, at worst loads of garbage code and syntax
Whatever is behind getInjectedObject() has control of how the dependency object is created.
In the same way the Injector is responsible for how the dependency object is created
But one is very linear and straight forward, the other one much less so.
So i refine my position to "Dependency Injection is everyday java programming, Dependency Injectors are a nightmare"
 
one step at time :D
 
Does of couse lead to, Dagger is an app disease ;)
 
I am not advocating the use of Dagger
 
Ok Graeme if you really are interested in finding out the power of DI, then take a look at this project github.com/JakeWharton/u2020 albeit Dagger 1 is used here still demonstrates how with DI you can actually inject whole modules based on build variants
 
11:58 AM
Bhargav - But the use of Depencency Injectors simply serves to make things more complicated, you can achieve Dependency Injection without them.
 
time to lunch
when i come back i'll search how ot properly checksum a byte[]
 
you can do that Graeme, but thing is you will have to write all the boiler plate factory code, which can be easily generated. Also don't tell me that you won't use factory methods but instead keep the mapping in your application singleton class, because using that you can't do things jake's done in that demo app of his
 
12:38 PM
@ElyessAbouda Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
Yes you can :)
Anything you can do with Dagger you can do without Dagger
 
but would require you to write a lot more code than necessary. They didn't create dagger so that you can do things you otherwise couldn't, they created it to reduce the amount of code you had to write and the complicated process flow you need to take care of by hand
 
shrugs
Seems a lot like the solution to the problem of not being able to architect your code well
 
the only challenge people find from it is the learning curve, actually getting hold of the idea of scopes and sub scopes etc
which translate to components and sub-components
but yes on small scale projects dagger is overkill, it actually creates the exact same problem that its trying to solve
there I agree with you
and also by using that your code actually becomes extremely testable imo
so by ensuring people in your organization use DI, you can be sure that they write testable code
 
12:55 PM
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@WarrenFaith OKI
 
\oo
 
Do you use a Dependency Injector library Warren?
 
I use AndroidAnnotations, it kind of includes an DI
 
1:13 PM
whimper
ButterKnife on steroids!
 
Jake Wharton might not like that statement
 
anybody use the JobScheduler before?
I want to know if its killed when your app is closed, (i.e swiped off by the user)
 
i dont think so
 
1:16 PM
see, AndroidAnnotations is something really useful always.
unlike others.
 
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wut?
 
yo cMMMMM
 
Oh, apparently I forgot to change his access after giving the welcome message
 
Tripple Rejection?
 
1:19 PM
I pulled an Ahmad :P
Hey, Een
 
happens to the best of us, cM :D
 
I feel so elite xD
 
nope
 
o/
 
\o
 
1:22 PM
@Bhargav looks like something I could use
 
So I came in today and thought I wanted to use my standing desk
20 minutes in I regret the decision but I have to commit so I don't look like a bitch
 
that's the spirit
commit, push, pull
 
interesting library
 
lol adam
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@CptEric Why is that bad?
 
1:38 PM
i can't stand Calendar now.
 
You shouldn't have before.
@Nicolapps Welcome! Please read our room rules before participating.
 
Thanks for accepting, I'm reading the rules :)
And I have read and understood the rules ^^
 
:)
Welcome!
 
cM would appreciate that drink
buy him the ass-bourbon now;
 
Thanks @McAdam331 !
 
1:42 PM
Een how have you been?
 
Man, the struggle is real; but keeping my head up here
earned like 400 rep in like 5 days though
so, yeah, feels good
 
what's up in the states adam?
welcome nicolas
 
Trump is up I believe
 
will he win?
 
who knows huh
 
1:57 PM
I need help with this : stackoverflow.com/q/38094005/4652564. Could someone show me how to do ?
 

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