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6:00 PM
@Emmanuel real Dulce de leche is from Uruguay
good afternoon everyone
 
REAL Dulce de leche is from McDonalds!
 
what are you talking about?
 
lol carl
 
McDonalds from Uruguay then??
 
6:04 PM
I'ms till using AS 0.5.8
Mainly because of JMR's problem up there.
 
the new project structure is out?!
MUST UPDATE.
 
You ran into the same thing Adam?
it is @Ahmad :)
 
nice!
A programmer left his rich parents to pursue his dream of creating orchestral music. He favored composition over inheritance.
this one's for @nil
 
6:25 PM
Naw trevor, I'm just scared I will :D
 
ROFL Ahmad
 
I have a 0.8.x install alongside my 0.5.8 one, so I can probably get away with trying it out :P
 
had to avoid taking a sip of coffee on that one
 
take the risk! the new project structure is worth it
 
whelp, reinstalling Eclipse :-P
and by "installing" I mean "copying the eclipse folder out of the .zip file"
because really, who needs installers in 2014?
 
6:30 PM
not on mac you don't
 
:)
 
but btw, who needs Eclipse in 2014?
3
:D
 
ha ha
 
People with too much time on their hands need Eclipse in 2014
 
6:35 PM
One of our job applicants has demo code in Eclipse format.
I'm not sure if I want to download it to try the code out or not.
 
The fact that he is still using eclipse would make me question him
 
She, and they were uni projects.
 
To be fair, even I'm still using Eclipse for my bigger projects
 
Eclipse format?
 
Mainly because whenever I try to move them to AS, they break beyond recognition
 
6:37 PM
lol
 
user457812
6:52 PM
Should use IntelliJ instead of AS and get all the goodies without the bugs
 
out for a bit
 
later
 
nice read, adam :)
 
Nice and short! :D
I like short reads.
 
7:04 PM
I'm considering rx for our app
we are redoing all of our json controllers for our next release
 
I'm definitely gonna try to include Rx in our app.
I'm rewriting it so I can do whatever I want. Muahaha.
2
 
haha
I think rxjava plus retrofit will work very nicely in our app
but I need to sell it to our other devs
 
I think we need a window here:
 
7:26 PM
Yeah, the way I've designed our app I can't combine Rx + Retrofit in the typical way, because our data goes from network straight into the DB.
The UI only ever interacts with the DB for retrieving data for display.
So I'm hoping to slot it in there somewhere.
 
Hi, Android!
 
Hey, Code!
 
Hmmm. Unless I can feed individual items from a JSON array through Rx as they're parsed out?....
That'd be pretty cool but I don't think that's easy to do. I'mma just get everything working for now >_> In the process of writing the DBHelper now.
 
7:49 PM
ffuuuuu, Trying to use unity with C# but it uses .NET 3.5 which doesn't support Expandable Objects... Makes serialization and de serialization.
 
8:01 PM
I don't even.
"Remove all P2P software immediately"
As if torrents are only used for illegal stuff...
 
Or windows homegroups
 
...
this is just beyond stupid
 
@tinos07 rejected for low A:Q ratio and you seem to want answers just given to you
 
to be honest, the concept of p2p networks is so interesting and awesome
and it's used for soo much good stuff
 
Contribute to others more and request again
 
8:04 PM
@tinos07 YOU HEARD THE MAN.
 
@tinos07 I just gave you a reasonable response. Listen, do, profit
Lol, Ahmad
 
8:20 PM
Is it possible to publish a Spring-based service to GAE?
 
should be
most likely yes
 
any idea how to go about it?
 
nope sorry
 
tnx anyway=p
 
You're welcome
 
8:27 PM
shush you
 
:P
 
lol
i needed to read a couple of time to understand what was going on :P
 
Don't worry, the rest of the class will wait while you catch up
 
great
 
user457812
looks up, sees a video of pure gold, vomits
 
8:30 PM
I've been waiting on "the special kids" all my life so I'm used to it
 
catching up is something I don't need to do in my swift course
the instructor goes at such a sloooooow paaaaace
 
user457812
Let me know if you encounter the unowned self for NSObject bug.
 
user457812
Because that drove me nuts.
 
user457812
Was supposed to be fixed, too. Turns out that didn't happen.
 
me?
 
8:32 PM
I love when eclipse decides that a key combination isn't going to work sporadically.
 
user457812
Yes. You, the Swift person.
 
user457812
 
user457812
This bug. This damn bug.
 
lemme check it
 
user457812
Oh, and the De Morgan's bug.
 
8:33 PM
wait
 
user457812
I'm just calling it the De Morgan's bug because it's hilarious to imagine a compiler dying because of a De Morgan's transformation.
 
one's for free, after that there will be a charge
 
user457812
Ok, I'll ban you and the fee is your re-entry into the room
 
that is abuse of power, mister
 
user457812
Also, if you want to crash Xcode and Swift, drop crash.swift in a playground: gist.github.com/nilium/ecb95d3fcbf91eeb20d7
 
user457812
8:34 PM
By the way, save your files.
 
user457812
Should go without saying, but when I say it's going to crash Xcode, I mean it.
 
pfff... I've crashed it so many times
crazy stuff is happening in this course
 
user457812
It's probably not as crazy as my so-dumb-it's-genius undo/redo code.
 
there are like 6 computers where we can't define an array of multiple types
like var array = ["String", 1]
 
user457812
Arrays can only have one type.
 
8:36 PM
but this one guy, using his macbook is able to define that array
 
user457812
Neither of these types have a common supertype
 
and turns out that we cannot do that in the playground, but if we create a "real" project, we can
 
user457812
Far as I can tell, ["String", 1] results in an NSArray
 
user457812
Also, just did it in a playground.
 
in my computer, it raised an error
in all of our computers but one
 
user457812
8:38 PM
 
user457812
It's being automatically bridged to an NSArray.
 
you're running beta4?
 
user457812
Yes.
 
i'll try that again tomorrow
 
user457812
The question I'd ask is what the actual line of code you were using was.
 
8:39 PM
I can't recall what error exactly it showed
line?
as which of your 3 examples?
 
user457812
No, as in the exact code you used.
 
user457812
'Cause I don't know if you're forgetting you had a type annotation or something else.
 
the one I wrote above
var array = ["String", 1]
as simple as that
also tried var array : Array<T> = ["String", 1]
 
user457812
Well, that clearly works, so I'd guess you had a typo or the error was somewhere else
 
user457812
Well, that one obviously wouldn't work.
 
8:41 PM
no typo, believe me...
something's buggy
 
user457812
You should read the Swift book Apple put out.
 
user457812
Generics do not apply to variables. Period.
 
I thought that wouldnt, but someone said something about "T is the same as id from Cocoa"
i gave it a try... just that
 
user457812
That person was very wrong and you should kneecap them.
 
hahahha
 
user457812
8:43 PM
The equivalent to id in Obj-C is AnyObject
 
i'd rather believe that I simply misunderstood what the guy meant
 
user457812
var aryAny: [AnyObject] = [1, "string"] ← For example
 
cool
 
user457812
I doubt you misunderstood. Confusing generics and id is just plain wrong, and you can't extrapolate that from a misunderstanding on your part.
 
user457812
I'm sure that person will eventually learn how to use generics and come around, but it's still wrong.
 
8:45 PM
ok then... I'll stretch my knees tomorrow before hitting him
 
user457812
At any rate, keep the Swift iBook/eBook handy whenever you're using Swift.
 
btw, I guess he is the owner of the "school"
not entirely sure yet
 
user457812
It's far easier to just go "I wonder how generics work again" and then flip to that chapter
 
sure
I think it's time to rename the room to <> Swift
 
user457812
Also probably keep an eye on Apple's Swift blog since they're explaining various things on there
 
user457812
8:47 PM
I suspect everyone using Java looks at Swift and just goes "damn, we're stuck with Java"
 
I will soon... I've been really busy with this Android project, but when I'm done with it, I will actually start working/experimenting with Swift
then I will read a lot more, follow the blogs, etc etc
 
user457812
I've written an app in Swift but it doesn't compile in release mode
 
user457812
Turns out I've got code it has unimplemented optimizations for
 
because it's buggy or apple does not allow yet?
 
user457812
Just buggy.
 
user457812
8:49 PM
It's a real beta, not the pretend haha we're cute web devs beta.
 
we still have a couple of months before iOS 8 anyway
 
look at this guys blog
he's really into analyzing a bunch of data
I love it.
 
Ahmad, let me guess: bottom line is that "Hacker news" is about "Tech", and not about "Hacking"?
my ride is here, gotta go
 
user457812
I don't use the term "hacking" because doing so in my state apparently removes your fourth amendment protections since it's considered an admission of guilt or criminal activity or something.
 
user457812
8:51 PM
Also, Hacker News isn't about tech, it's about masturbating to startup fanfiction.
 
user457812
Sadly, I can't claim the idea of it being startup fanfiction as my own — someone on Twitter said that.
 
LOL, nil.
Best statement of the year. Seriously.
cya @gui
 
user457812
Wasn't my statement, so eh
 
I am also out for a bit because eclipse is stupid
 
user457812
I just liked that explanation of Hacker News
 
8:55 PM
\o/
codeMagic, I haven't fixed my eclipse stupid yet
 
Did you reinstall?
 
had to come in for a meeting that I'm still waiting to start
 
user457812
It's not that it's devoid of tech or programming, but the majority of it is business garbage that nobody cares about unless they still have aspirations of being the next rich, white college boy (or college dropout) in Silicon Valley.
 
yeah, well was starting to reinstall
but then I started updating ADT
and the copy was taking forever for some reason
 
I was trying to figure out why the undo key combo wasn't working...
Turns out it was...just not in the file I currently had open :O
Ah, well good luck with that. I'm hoping it decides to behave better tomorrow or I'm going to need a bottle of rum by noon
See ya, folks
 
8:58 PM
cya
 
user457812
Everyone should still switch to IntelliJ, by the way.
 
user457812
It's free, it's better, it's not Eclipse, etc.
 
9:12 PM
gonna see Tycho in concert Friday night
 
looked up Tycho
nice! :D
 
posted on July 30, 2014 by Android Developers

By Bruno Oliveira, Tech Lead of the I/O app project The source code for the 2014 version of the Google I/O app is now available. Since its first release on Google Play a few weeks before the conference, the I/O app was downloaded by hundreds of thousands of people, including on-site attendees, I/O Extended event participants and users tuning in from home. If one of the goals of the app

 
\o/ ^ also nice
 
10:06 PM
And...back
What is a Tycho?
n/m I will look it up
Only listened to a few seconds but sounds cool. I will listen to more later
 
in other news: I'm learning R.
Looks like you can do some pretty fancy graph plotting with it
 
this is my fav track of his:
super chill/relaxed... which as a super-busy parent I really appreciate
 
shhh... listening
 
10:24 PM
This is really cool. Thanks for that Carl :)
 
yw :)
wish I had the energy to do more music on the side
 
I like that!
 
10:36 PM
and I'm back to WFH after this office meeting
might be back later
 
later
 
Awesome, unity wants me to install the 32 bit jdk even though I already have the 64 bit jdk, cool cool
 
11:23 PM
Night Everyone :)
 
11:38 PM
Nighty night Naruto
 
11:48 PM
night
 
user457812
INCOMING SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION OF SOME KIND
 
user457812
 
user457812
VIDEO OF MY WORK IN PROGRESS APP. SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION COMPLETED. RETURN TO NORMAL HUMAN CONDUCT.
 
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