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9:05 PM
Well, I'm back so we have that going on
 
I had a lot of productivity on my list for when I got home today. But, now it doesn't sound so fun
 
is "sleep" on that list?
cause I'm betting it isn't
 
Haha...waaaaay at the bottom
 
thats an easy fix
just turn the list upside down
 
9:15 PM
Lol
 
Genius!
 
Hey guys is really late in here and I can't figure it out.... maybe you have some ideas... I save the content of a view in a png file, and the result has jaggy lines as some resize it was made to it
even if I load the image at full quality
 
Friend: How should I express my midlife crisis? Me: Comic Sans.
post some sample alin
 
F#ck... it was because I was loading a jpg
 
(if you can)
 
9:17 PM
if I load a png it works fine
 
:D
 
after I changed all my resources to jpg...
 
x_x
 
I can't believe I just compressed around 300 files from png to jpg to save space
 
why is it that one figures out the answer to something one has been strugling with for the last hours just a few minutes after one has written down the problem
 
9:18 PM
and now I see jpg fails to work properly
why the heck isn't jpg working properly ?
 
and we've now hit bourbon-o-clock here
 
A little early for you west coasters, isn't it?
 
Could it be that when the apk is made, the jpg is compressed even more badly ?
 
I guess anything goes on a Friday...
 
we only do this about once a month, so the time of the day doesn't really matter
 
9:23 PM
Nice!
 
this was our previous bottle
 
So, once a month you guys spend half the day getting toasted?
 
you're looking at it all wrong
they save half the day from being experienced sober.
 
code, Foamy...I'm thinking about starting a Kickstarter. If you want to take a look and give some feedback, it would be appreciated: kickstarter.com/projects/1559449753/1595707020?token=4ee036a2
 
cM, your jealousies, I feel them.
are you saying your small company doesn't do things like that?
 
9:31 PM
You should because they are much
Oh, I'm not getting down on you. I was just curious what the ritual was
Not really like that. Though, one guy did keep a bottle of bourbon on his desk
And a few of us did partake in moonshine one day. We just don't have a tradition of it
I'm not sure I get it, Code...
 
we don't really get lit.. everyone has about a shot's worth and keeps working at their desks
 
Maybe I don't get how it works but why do you need a kickstarter for your app? I thought it had been getting d/ls
That sounds like a let down, Carl
 
free bourbon is a let down?
 
So you don't actually get that glass in the pic?
 
9:35 PM
A shots worth is
 
I could take more
if i wanted
 
Oh, I see
 
but I still have to drive home later
 
You should start taking the bus on those days :D
 
9:37 PM
@codeMagic what part don't you get?
and what can I do to make it clearer?
 
I haven't really looked at much on kickstarter unless someone has sent me something funny so maybe I'm ignorant on the situation
But my questions are...
Isn't the point of it to get some startup money to build whatever?
And what is your end goal of it (not the money, that's obvious)
I thought you had been getting a lot of downloads on it
I know you haven't been getting enough to live off of but I'm not sure you are going to with that app alone, though I think it's a neat idea just maybe not enough demand for it to get to that point very soon
 
I'm getting a decent amount of dls. I'd like to get more, though.
Part of the idea is to get some advertising for the existing app. It would be nice to have some funding to help me financially as I work on adding features.
 
Personally I am opposed to kickstarter
but that has to do only with kickstarter as a platform, not your project on there
 
I don't think you'll get funded TBH
 
Sweet freedom is finally calling my name, see you all later.
 
9:46 PM
cya Mr
 
I don't either, but I also would've thought that a potato salad would definitely not get it. So I am clearly a bit out of touch with the kickstarter userbase
 
See ya
Why don't you like it, Foamy?
 
I will spare you my longwinded rant because I just did it in here the other day
 
holy shit
the potato salad guy is at 52k
 
but it boils down to Kickstarter being the perfect platform for scam artists
 
9:48 PM
Fair enough
 
there have been many campaigns that are blatant fraud and kickstarter as an entity has no incentive to put an end to them
 
That I agree with and have always been a little skeptical about it because of that
 
and I dislike that they allow people to raise more than the goal
 
I've decided to drop my sights a little bit. We'll see what happens.
 
case in point: guy asks for $10 to make a potato salad and gets more than 50 grand.
 
9:50 PM
@DemCodeLines Rejected because you've (almost) only asked questions so far, answer some questions and request access again
 
and technically is disallowed from giving it to charity I think
 
he is?
 
> Projects can’t fundraise for charity, offer financial incentives, or involve prohibited items.

We’re all in favor of charity and investment, but they’re not permitted on Kickstarter. Projects can’t promise to donate funds raised to a charity or cause, and they can’t offer financial incentives like equity or repayment. We also can’t allow any of these prohibited things.
 
I agree that's obviously stupid. But it's societies fault for continuing to give him the money when he clearly doesn't need it to make potato salad. I mean, it's not like he's tricking them. They are just idiots
 
so I guess he is allowed to do with it what he pleases
 
9:52 PM
TBH a lot of people really screw up on promises with the tiers and end up losing most of their money fulfilling the promises
 
and KS doesn't enforce the projects to deliver
so if you donate 30 bucks and are promised a T-shirt and you never get it... tough luck
or worse if you donate 200 bucks and are promised one of the first units by a certain time.
if it is late or doesn't come at all kickstarter doesn't give a shit because they already took their cut
there are a some instances of them bending the rules a bit to allow a project that makes for a good story but is technically not allowed as well
I think there needs more accountability for the projects, and I think your donations should be capped at your goal... If you want to keep taking pre-orders at that point you should have to get your own ordering infrastructure
but when it is uses as essentially a glorified pre-ordering system it sucks because it is kind of setup in such a way that makes it easy to screw the buyer. Where as if that company had to use tradional means to take actual pre-orders instead of "donations" there is a little bit more ground to stand on for the buyer if things go south.
so apparently I am incapable of not giving the long winded rant
 
I was just about to say. ;)
 
:D
preach on brother FoamyGuy!
 
but now, it is time to journey home
 
14 mins ago, by FoamyGuy
I will spare you my longwinded rant because I just did it in here the other day
YOU FAILED.
:D
 
10:03 PM
I would not normally spam you guys with industry survey requests, but this one is like 3 questions, and for each person who takes it there is a donation made to coderdojo. Which I think is a fantastic organization with a great cause. So if you have a moment and are willing please answer this: research.net/s/coderdojo
Yeah, I realized that =x
 
> We can’t find the page you requested.
 
me, too
 
it's giving me a 404
 
try now
sorry, fat fingered after I pasted the url
in the interest of openness... if you give them your email they will spam you with offers to fill out mobile/software industry surveys
 
I can find it for you, for a price.
 
10:05 PM
so if you don't want that just don't put an email in there
but on the flip side they do sometimes pay you for doing them, and it is legit I have gotten paypal'd like 20 or 30 bucks for one of them
and now I am leaving to go home for realz
 
cya foamy
just filled out the survey.
 
@Ahmad lol
 
Damn, I step outside for a few minutes for a smoke and some rum and I miss the rant...again
 
lrn2scroll
 
I'm drinking rum now too
 
10:15 PM
I will...just going to take some time to catch up ;)
 
one of our Trovers stopped in a couple months ago and brought us some Hawaiian pineapple rum
 
Bourbon and rum at work all in the same day...nice!
 
unfortunately not hiring
 
Yikes, that doesn't sound good
 
it's decent
 
10:24 PM
> Scientists: Rich People, Poor People May Have Shared Common Ancestor
 
I can't program drunk. God knows I've tried...
 
I've never tried that
 
Don't you believe in the Ballmer Peak?
You have to try harder!
 
10:30 PM
I'm going to go drink some coffee.
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
how's it going Emm?
still lovin the job?
 
Waiting for my turn at the ping pong table
Yes
It is amazing
 
10:32 PM
:D
 
The app is starting to look decent
 
loon?
=p
 
still doing the bread one?
 
what's your new job, emm?
 
Bread app? ;D
 
10:33 PM
We didn't have much say in the design
We are doing the app for Panera
 
how's the pair programming going?
are you sold on it?
 
I think it helps
 
do you think it's faster than two people working alone?
 
It is not as bad as its sounds
I would say it reduces mistakes
 
I still think I couldn't do pair programming
 
10:38 PM
I think pair programming helps QA more than anything
 
I mean you constantly have someone sitting next to you, can't just take a break, browse reddit in-between the compiling
lol
 
Yes you can
But I know what you mean
 
:)
yeah that's how I feel Ahmad
 
Ahmad, the assumption you make in saying you can't take a break while pair programming is that everyone else is working constantly. They're taking as many breaks as you :P
 
yeah, but it's a bit weird, as in you want to take a break, what do you say to your pairing partner? "Hey dude, want to waste some time on reddit?"
It's not something you can just do, you always have to decide with someone else
I know the example is silly
 
10:42 PM
I dunno, if you're in charge, you sorta just switch tabs while it's compiling right? :P
 
but I bet it makes you a better programmer, for sure
 
Emm do you have proscribed break times? Or do you just do that with your partner whenever it's convenient?
 
since you constantly have someone that you can learn something from next to you
 
s/proscribed/prescribed/
 
And by "in charge" I mean "driving the keyboard at that moment"
 
10:46 PM
ugh you're right Code-App... couldn't decide between the two
 
I really do not take breaks
Only when we run tests
That takes 26 min currently
 
Fuck me
That's some test coverage O_O
 
@Emmanuel What testing frameworks do you use?
 
Robotium and robolectric
And plain old junit
 
oh, that's right...you were stting up the robolectric stuff last week.
 
10:48 PM
Yeah
 
did you get that working?
 
Somewhat
 
26 min
wat
that's some serious testing dude, nice
 
Yeah
We got 236 robolectric tests alone
 
How fast are the robolectric tests?
 
10:52 PM
oh that reminds me, totally forgot to upload this plugin to sonatype emmanuel, will probably do that tomorrow
 
heh, we just set up a ping pong table at work this week.
hadn't played in forever. Slowly getting my touch back
 
You guys need to call my company and get them to set us up a ping pong table
Tell them how much more productive you are because of it
 
apparently there was a table in my work in the long ago time before I came around
and it's been in storage
 
anyone have any ideas on this problem - I'm trying to save the 'active tab' by writing the current tab to SharedPreferences any time it changes, but when I start up the app, as part of the tabpager's construction, onTabSelected(0) gets called and overwrites any value I've put there previously
 
10:59 PM
Forget ping pong. A pool table, that's what you want.
 
> in the long ago time
 
it seems hacky but there is probably some way to disgreguard the first page change each time the app starts
since the first change will always be it setting itself to 0
 
I love pool also. Used to play on several leagues
That made me chuckle too, Code
 
I am not nearly as good at pool
 
I haven't actually implemented tabs but isn't there a listener like onTabSelected, `onTabChanged(), or something you can override?
 
11:05 PM
right but that is part of the problem
 
yeah
 
he did that, but when you create the views it calls onTabSelected(0)
 
where are you setting the preference carl?
 
which resets the tab stored in prefs back to 0
the more I think about it, the more I think you will probably just have to make a flag, or count variable and use it to ignore the first onTabSelected call
 
fixed, I just needed to read the preference out before creating the tabs
 
11:07 PM
heh
 
wow
apparently my problem solving skills are shot for the day
 
and back
 
must mean you lost
;-)
 
yeah
 
11:09 PM
winner stays, loser has to go chat in room 15
 
lol
 
@Code-Apprentice they are fast
specially when you compare them to UATs
 
So the regular JUnit tests take most of the 26 mins, right?
 
LOL Carl
 
11:10 PM
:D
 
no, User Acceptance Tests = Robotium tests take the longest
 
right, those, too
 
Time to leave office now, Night Everyone :)
 
I'm off for a little while, too. I'll prolly be back within an hour, though
 
Should I be ashamed that my wife knew about Monty Python before I did?
 
11:12 PM
Yes, yes you should be
 
of course yes :D
 
gets ownership revoked
 
Have you seen The Holy Grail?
 
parts of it
 
No no no...sit down tonight and watch the whole thing (at least 3 times)
 
11:14 PM
see ya later @ those who are leaving
 
lol
 
I know the name Monty Python but I have no idea who that actually is
 
any of you ever played with greenDao?
 
I know about greenDao...does that count?
 
I know it's something with sqlite, does that count as well?
 
11:25 PM
I have a git question for you guys
 
not really
I've been playing around last few days, it is nifty, but not sure if I'm sold yet
 
at work we always rebase origin/master on our branch
before we merge the branch back to master
what do you guys think about that?
 
I don't really understand rebase because I've never needed to use it to make things work
 
what about ORMLite, Foamy?
when you rebase you are changing history
 
@Emmanuel git rm -rf *
always the answer.
 
user457812
11:28 PM
Rewriting my color scheme editor in Swift is.. tedious.
 
@Emmanuel you rebase master onto your feature branch? not the other way around?
 
user457812
Really unpleasant reading the old version's code.
 
you are telling your current branch's commit to be the parent of your branches first commit
right Code
 
rebasing onto master makes sense...
but not rebasing master onto another branch
 
the only reason we do it is so your branching tree is more readable
but you lose history
meaning you now do not know when your branch was created
when meaning from what commit you branched from
 
11:30 PM
there's a "created" time stamp which is different from the most recent "modified" one
 
looked at ORMLite but haven't played with it yet
 
I do not mean time on that sense
 
if you rebase your branch onto master
you will end up with a linear graph
 
11:31 PM
we do not do that
after we rebased
we merge --no-ff back to master
 
then what's the point of the rebase?
sounds strange to me...but maybe I don't understand the workflow
 
to always have only one level of branching
this is how we do it
lets say I have master
and story-1
I crate story one on master's first commit
then master goes on
let's say while I am working on my branch origin master gets 3 more commits from other devs
 
I'm with you so far
 
now let's say I had 3 commits on my story
and it is now done
so before I do anything else
I have to fetch
to get the 3 commits that origin master has
after I do that
I need to tell my HEAD to update to origin/master
so now my master and origin master are the same (if nobody pushed to master)
no I go back to my branch
story-1
now since I am up to date with master
I rebase my branch on origin/master
then you push
(force push, since you re-wrote history)
go to master
and merge --no-ff
 
that makes a lot more sense...
you originally said that you rebase master onto your branch
which confused me
 
11:40 PM
I am doing that
 
rebasing a branch onto master definitely makes some sense. For one thing, it narrows down merge conflicts to a specific commit.
and if your commits are small, it should be relatively easy to fix a merge conflict.
 
I am rebasing my branch onto origin/master
I resolve merge conflicts with master on my branch basically
 
Hey
 
o/
 
11:48 PM
Hi, Abdellah
 
You said that already =p
 
I suck at checkers
 
I m blocked at level 9/10
(Intermediate)
 
@CarlAnderson what is your take on our branching techniques?
 
11:56 PM
time to watch some coursera videos
 
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