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11:01 AM
Sorry, but what sentense "life of devops" means? I'm not good in English
 
$bool = false;
echo (!$bool = false);
// prints 1

! is faster than = ?
@Kirzilla I suppose devops should be developers. What language do You understand?
 
@DanielsPitkevičs, thank you. I understand english and russian (my native on).
 
DevOps (a portmanteau of development and operations) is a software development method that stresses communication, collaboration and integration between software developers and Information Technology(IT) professionals. DevOps is a response to the interdependence of software development and IT operations. It aims to help an organization rapidly produce software products and services. The role of a DevOps professional has similarities with that of a Chief Engineer within the Toyota Production System. Such persons have responsibilities on the project success, but no formal authority ov...
 
@Kirzilla Ok, devops is not a developer :D Sorry. I can help translating into russian, I understand it too
 
I see, thank you
Other part is clear for me, thank you. :)
@salathe thank you!
 
11:05 AM
Finally got enough point to say, hello everyone :)
 
@webarto , i actually have never made that fuckup
though i have broken the staging because i though i was messing with development version
 
@Cleric As a real programmer You need to say not - hello everyone, but - Hello, World!
 
@tereško And that's why you have two levels of safety... ;)
 
@tereško it would be better to mark what is what with colors :)
RED - don't f* it up :D
 
@DanielsPitkevičs You are absolutely right. Let me correct myself. Hello world
 
11:08 AM
naah .. it just should require a password when deploying to production
 
is there a versioning system for databases
 
@Cleric Hehe, thats correct.
 
or even better : developers cannot deploy to production , it's the right of QA people
 
@deceze Yeah, really a big problem. Normally if you care about sites - even if you don't do any regular backups nightly - you do a backup before doing changes.
 
11:10 AM
Whats up people?
 
@Cleric Hi!
 
if you are using jquery , you already have failed
 
Is here any stackoverflow administrators?
 
@DanielsPitkevičs adminiwhatstor?
 
11:12 AM
@DanielsPitkevičs I guess for moderation issues you should use the flag option or post a question on Meta.
 
Any way, I was young and stupid and now I can't ask questions in stackoverflow - is there any chances that I will be able to ask again in future?
 
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@DanielsPitkevičs Try on meta.stackoverflow.com and/or meta chat. #PHP is not really the right place to ask.
 
@deceze I don't have Mac :)
 
hey guys! i'm in trouble :(
 
11:15 AM
@deceze I know that PHP is not the correct place, but still, here is quite smart people, so I just tried.
 
i've opened an hostgator baby plan
 
@NokImchen My condolences.
 
but now, i've realized that they don't support 'use' keyword. They support 'include' or 'require'
 
@NokImchen ?
 
@deceze what should i do for an alternative of 'use' keyword? i need that 'use' for running Goutte phar file :(
 
11:16 AM
?
maybe phar is not enabled
 
@webarto i think phar is enabled cos they can extract it properly
 
F****... When I migrated from SVN to Git I dropped my old SVN-based development folder... and lost all the uncommitted changes inside.
 
@webarto this is the error i get,
Fatal error: use: Not yet supported. Please use include_once() or require_once()
 
@Whisperity a moment of silence for lost files.
I deleted entire repo without pushing to github... I thought I pushed, but I just commited...
 
@NokImchen Extract the PHAR to be extracted files and slowly, but steadilty align (alter) them to not use use? What version of PHP are they using?
 
@webarto I have craptons of repos in /tmp for a temporary project because I was playing around with merging from SVN, altering the commit information, removing the get-svn-by-id stuff, appending new commit messages. And after it, creating a branch from an older commit. superuser.com/q/451120/137801
 
@Whisperity they say php 5. dont know what version of php 5 :(. let let me check using a code :)
 
@NokImchen phpinfo();
 
@Whisperity thanks :) u saved my time :) i was about to google :P
@Whisperity btw, m requesting to support to enable 'use' so m kinda busy begging them :P
 
11:23 AM
@NokImchen Or just execute echo PHP_VERSION;.
 
hii @all, i want to connect remote server database? when i am giving mysql_connect("remote server IP address", "username", "password") it is giving error could connect to mysql server
 
@Whisperity i got this :5.2.17
 
please tell me..if anyone knows how to connect remote mysql
 
@Whisperity their system is out dated :( it should be 5.4 , right?
 
11:25 AM
@pardhu Please, don't use mysql_* functions to write new code. They are no longer maintained and the community has begun the deprecation process. See the red box? Instead, you should learn about prepared statements and use either PDO or MySQLi. If you can't decide which, this article will help you.
 
how can i use mysqli_* functions
 
@pardhu We do not know with the information given, repeating it doesn't help. Ask the MySQL server admin. Or give us information on how the MySQL server is configured.
 
@pardhu Make sure that the remote server accepts connections from the outside and that the user you are wanting to connect with is set to accept connections from outside. stackoverflow.com/q/11629346/1428773
 
busy day today :) loads of chatter :P
 
@NokImchen it should be 5.3 at least...
 
11:27 AM
@pardhu Is the remote mysql server set to listen to external ip addresses?
 
@Whisperity is that any alternative to 'use' keyword in php 5.2.17?
@webarto ya, i'm telling the support to upgrade my server, but they are blah blah blah :(
 
@ShyamK The quantity is increasing faster than the quality, unfortunately
 
you are on a shared server... so therea are probably 500 other sites on that server, and they won't upgrade to 5.3+ because it will probably break some lousy websites... @NokImchen change your host... site5.com (shameless promotion)
 
@webarto the support is ready to upgrade for me to php 5.3 :)
@webarto but i'll definitely consider your suggestion next month when my current plan in hostgator gets expired :)
 
@webarto You guys are expensive :o
 
11:31 AM
@webarto the support is ready to upgrade for me to php 5.3 :)
@webarto actually, i was searching for a new host cos i hate hostgator! but i couldn't find any alternative cos i pay using my debit card (i dont have a credit card yet!)
 
I never worked with Phar, so just out of curiosity. Where do you use the command "use". I'm guessing command line
 
move you to 5.3 :) @PeeHaa well, support matters :P I've used Hetzner VPS so far...
 
@Cleric i also dont know :P i just copy paste the main code & modify them accoding to my needs :)
 
@Cleric Shouldn't use be used when defining which Namespace the code is in?
 
Site5 is awesome (shameful affiliate link)
 
@webarto what kind of VPS is it? OpenVZ?
 
@whi that was what I thought the discussion was about at first. Thats why Im curious :)
 
Good morning
 
@ircmaxell morning
 
11:35 AM
Morning
 
@salathe Even more fancy: youtube.com/watch?v=aFd5Cci_pE4
 
Morning
 
@salathe which affiliation? php.net? or personal?
 
@salathe clicked :P
 
@salathe ya, ilove the feature about the unlimited domains even in hostBasic shared plan :)
 
11:36 AM
@ircmaxell personal, php.net doesn't use Site5
 
@salathe website has styling issues.
 
gist: Comment for mysql_* users [now as header into answers], 2012-07-24 11:31:44Z
> **Warning:**
> 
> Please, don't use `mysql_*` functions to write new code. They are no longer maintained and the community has begun the [deprecation process][deprecate-info]. See the [**red box**][red-box]?
> 
> Instead, you should learn about [prepared statements][prepared-stm] and use either [PDO][manual-pdo] or [MySQLi][manual-mysqli]. [This article][choosing-an-api] should give some details about deciding which API to use. For PDO, here is a [good tutorial][pdo-tutorial].

 [deprecate-info]: http://news.php.net/php.internals/53799
 [red-box]: http://uk.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-connect.php
 [prepared-stm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_statement
 [manual-pdo]: http://php.net/pdo
 [manual-mysqli]: http://php.net/mysqli
 [choosing-an-api]: http://php.net/manual/en/mysqlinfo.api.choosing.php
 [pdo-tutorial]: http://wiki.hashphp.org/PDO_Tutorial_for_MySQL_Developers
 
Well, I didn't know if they had sponsorship or something like that
 
@hakre tell them, not me!
@ircmaxell not that I'm aware of.
 
themeforest.net/make_money/affiliate_program I exploited this, made a lot of money... built with RoR they said, it is safe, they said...
 
11:37 AM
cool
 
@webarto And then they got hacked, and shamed, because all their passwords were stored as plaintext
 
@salathe what is so special about site5?
 
@hakre they're not awful
 
@Leigh someone hacked into the server ... they had to announce that, but there were lots more of silent hacks...
 
anyway themeforest.net have descent looking menu :)
 
11:40 AM
I'm pretty happy with nearlyfreespeech.net for small projects. Any opinions?
 
I'm happy with my cheap Xen VPS
 
@deceze nice pricing plan
 
@Leigh vServer VQ 19
@deceze if you need host, ping me
 
@webarto thanks a lot, i finally got upgraded to 5.3 .14 :) its working now :) bye :) have a nice day ahead :)
 
11:43 AM
thank your support :P
 
@webarto Sure. Currently I'm on the above NFSN for small fry and AWS or Rackspace for serious business. Will see where you can fit in... ;)
 
@webarto No I mean OpenVZ / Xen / KVM - what virtualisation technology
 
@Leigh beats me, how can I find out?
 
My opinion: if you're on shared hosting for anything of value
 
@deceze define small :)
 
11:45 AM
@ircmaxell At least with Xen / KVM VPS they can't oversell the RAM
 
VPS != Shared Hosting
 
@webarto personal site, experiments, tiny promotional pages
 
hey, guys, i get "DESTRUCTED" word un the end of every page, i dont knw why, do u knw?
 
@ircmaxell It's a shared server technically, but with OpenVZ servers, hosts will typically oversell double the memory of the box. And yes, I would never trust anything (of value or not) with actual shared hosting.
 
11:48 AM
@NokImchen Localserver or remote
?
 
@DanielsPitkevičs hostgator server :)
 
@NokImchen post link, want to check
 
@deceze cool, if you need whatever, just ping me pokit.org/get/img/11c00ceae7ba0dcd16aecd336862ee83.png and I'll open up account with cPanel...
 
@DanielsPitkevičs i dont get that DESTRUCTED message in local server but i get DESTRUCTEDmessage in hostgator server
@DanielsPitkevičs link to?
 
@Leigh but it's not shared hosting... It's a separate concept
 
11:50 AM
@NokImchen Link to Your website on hostgator server. Probably hostgator making some checks or some of their shit. I don't use hostgator because heard of some bad reviews
 
@ircmaxell I know the difference.
 
@DanielsPitkevičs ohm currently, i'm scared to post link cos i still have not implement any security measure! :(
@DanielsPitkevičs i'm so sorry :(
 
Is there a PHP end of life date for PHP 5.1?
 
@NokImchen Ok, ok. Still, im not a hacker, but ok
 
@DanielsPitkevičs but i can do one thing :) i can recreate the same problem in a seperate folder and i'll give u the link :)
@DanielsPitkevičs heheh, but other might be hacker na :(
 
11:53 AM
@hakre it's already come and gone
 
@hakre wiki.php.net/rfc/releaseprocess scroll down to the timelines
 
@NokImchen Oh, dont bother yourself, chill.
 
Morning all
 
@DanielsPitkevičs ok, :) but i want to remove that DESTRUCTED word from appearing in the end of every page
@DanielsPitkevičs i think i'm getting this message cos i use pahr. it might be getting extracted in temporary folder. and when it gets deleted automatically in the end of script, it show DESTRUCTED message! my hypothesis :P
 
@NokImchen Well, as I suppose, it is generated after the site is loaded, then You could maybe use javascript to search for that word or div and hide
@NokImchen maybe, maybe
 
11:56 AM
@DanielsPitkevičs but it better to avoid the error rather than hiding it :)
 
@NokImchen That's true, but if You can't then You need to hide it
 
@DanielsPitkevičs ya :( i'm searching google for the reason of the error
 
@Leigh oh.. that is sad to hear.. but everyone can't be expected to be great at php.. theres' always gonna be newbies :)
 
@ShyamK I think the problem is, people mistake "PHP discussion" for "Free PHP help and support"
@ircmaxell: Are you able to prune some of these starred messages? People have decided to star useless code.
 
@Leigh Yep.. Its gotta be that.. but discussion may include help too... but not only help...
 
12:06 PM
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11630479/image-height-crop
 
posted on July 24, 2012 by Lukas Smith

So when you are a programmer life is good. You can kind of work from where ever you want (home/office/nature ..), constantly get to work on new and exciting stuff (well if you want that is) and you can choose from an entire planet offering you jobs that by and large pay pretty well. Personally I have been additionally very lucky in having found Liip. Now this sentence sounds a lot like the begi

 
pokit.org/get/img/199ee529b42aeef72832c62d12b0a4e3.png logged into registrar of domains I had, after 2 years, ah memories :)
 
@webarto I used to have a load of 4 letter domains :( I let them run out because I was young and too wasted to care / know better back then.
 
I also bought them like they were free :)
this one was the best 360-cities.net :)
friend sold mixxy.com for $1300... I don't know what he managed to do that... I suck there..
 
12:23 PM
Hello Any one knows that how to add extra perameter in pageTab ?
 
dafuq
 
Hello Any one knows that how to add extra perameter in pageTab in Facebook Apps using php
 
become a fan
 
ask facebook
 
@webarto Hmm, so I can create a website and afterwards sell it to someone?
 
12:25 PM
yes, why not?
 
@webarto Where can I sell websites?
 
heh
if you are going through markets, you are unlikely to close a good deal...
 
@webarto why?
 
because they are better negotiators then you are...
 
@webarto Not to mention they have teams that can churn out sites :)
 
12:29 PM
yup :)
 
NEVER! NEVER USE OPENCART!!
 
never did
never will
unless I get paid to
 
why opencart is that bad?
opencart is something for online stores, yes?
 
yes, exactly
 
@Leigh 1md.ch (1 Year) $15.00 :P
 
12:34 PM
opencart have most terrible code duplication ever. authors never heard of DRY principle.
for example, email validation
 
@webarto Turn it into a medical services locator site, bingo
 
why then not just to use some framework and create online store by yourself?
 
@Leigh friend of mine had some 3 letter domain, I think it is abbreviation for medical prescriptions, and he wanted to make site for that, because names are different on every continent, but drug is the ~same.
you just need a good idea, and loads of cash for boost :D
 
authors have email validation in following files: user registration, admin registration, user login, admin login, user checkout, admin add user, admin edit user. All these actions are separated into controllers and each controller contain if ((utf8_strlen($this->request->post['email']) > 96) || !preg_match('/^[^\@]+@.*\.[a-z]{2,6}$/i', $this->request->post['email'])) {
 
12:38 PM
guess they haven't heard of var_filter
 
@webarto me and my gf have our forenames as domains, both 5 letters
 
@Leigh noice
 
@DanielsPitkevičs I was paid to crate opencart store... :/
 
@deceze stupid email addresses though :p
 
nahasapeemapetilon.com ?
 
12:39 PM
no surprisingly it's leigh... but not one of the big 3 tlds
 
@Leigh leigh@leigh.tld? Oh well, could be worse... ;)
 
@webarto I knew I'd heard that name before! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apu_Nahasapeemapetilon
 
You can do scream@leigh.tld or throw.things@leigh.tld... :3
 
lol I could :)
 
@MikeB :)
root@toor
 
12:46 PM
hello @all
when i am using mysqli and PDO server returns 500 internal server error
 
@pardhu Noted.
 
hey there
I'm dealing with two files - a.php which contains a class and a echo statement out of the class , and b.php which includes a.php
the problem is that the echo statement from a.php is "imported" because i can see it , but in b.php i can not build an object of the class from a.php
what may be the problem ?
 
I've got a 'design' type question: my code is getting spaghetti-like real fast.
I had started blindly building this system and I wasn't planning anything out (shooting myself in the foot) - now I have a controller for each 'section' of the site (products, news, etc) and one big ass admin controller with the add/edit/del/view functions for all.
I need to refactor this: bad.
Should I have one controller for each section and within it have my view / admin(add.edit.view.del) functions?
or should I keep my admin controllers separate and maybe block them out by section?? have an Admin_Products controller and a Admin_News controller etc.
 
1:10 PM
@deceze hi
 
Hi hi ^_^
in JavaScript, 6 mins ago, by Neal
4 more... http://stackoverflow.com/q/5874652/561731 ^_^
 
morning folks
 
howdy
 
1:19 PM
mornin' ^_^
 
still morning? Will be ending work in half an hour ^^
 
tell us all about it :)
 
@DanielsPitkevičs pffft :-P
 
doesn't matter, we are in the same timezone, and I just started work, so it is relative... total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
 
@rlemon a class should be responsible for handling a single task. i.e: add. whether its admin or not. I've always heard the term "controllers skinny, models fat"
@rlemon are you using a framework?
 
1:22 PM
CI
 
ah, i have a core controller that i extend for each of mine.
 
Add/Edit/View/Delete > CRUD :)
 
the core controller does all of my authentication, i have an admin_controller and a profile_controller typically that handles permissions etc seperately depending.
 
@webarto yea yea - my naming convention is not to be desired. I will also clean that up :)
 
and then i have a seperate controller for each task.. e.g; utilities, accounts, invoices. each has all of the methods equired to perform crud on each individually.
but i group mine in folders. so /application/controllers/admin/utilityies, accounts, invoices.
 
1:25 PM
ohh man have I ever been doing this wrong then :/
lol
 
CI isnt really an example form of an true MVC framework though. so meh
i didnt learn that till i started hanging in php chat more often :)
 
yea CI is a mess - but a nice mess all the same.
 
How rewrite this text into code: This sentence is false?
We can rewrite text into code, for example, Apples are tasty - $apples = "tasty";
But I've been thinking of how we can do with: this sentence is false
Some kind of philosophical programmers question
 
ill wriote a thorough answer on programmers for you
 
if( !"This sentence" )
that is with the ? on the end
 
1:28 PM
No, question mark is not needed
But your is: If not this sentence
 
and that means....
this sentence is false(y)
 
Hmm
good point
But no
If not this sentence then is other.
This sentence is false, then...hell knows what
 
depends on the rest of the code.
 
^^ No rest code, just my freakin thoughts :D
 
$sentence = false;
 
1:29 PM
Indeed
But if this sentence is false, then it means that this sentence is not false, cuz it was false before
Ok fuck that :)
 
class Foo {
    $sentence;
    function bar() {
         $this->sentence = false;
    }
}
 
Maybe, maybe
And one more question before I go home - staying as a php programmer (or web programmer) for a rest of my life or going to some stand-alone development? Which is better?
 
if you are happy programming one language or one technology for the rest of your life... well then... good luck with that :P
 
@rlemon i posted an answer
 
in my experience it helps to know some of both.
i'm still digesting @tereško's answer :)
 
1:33 PM
@rlemon That means You can be great professional in what You do
 
but thankyou - the visual is always helpful
 
@DanielsPitkevičs do not stay solely a php programmer for the rest of your life unless you're ok with being looked down on by real programmers. :)
 
@DanielsPitkevičs Generally web development pays less than traditional software development.
Or at least that is what I have observed.
 
there's so much that quirky and jjust plain wrong about php, that you'll never really realize til you pick up another language
 
PHP
@LeviMorrison agree with your point..100%
 
1:34 PM
Has anyone here been on a job and had the boss not ask you to do something not related to your 'expertise' because you are techie and he thinks all techies should be able to do anything techie
 
@LeviMorrison It is true - that means, in 10 years, screw php :D
 
my boss is a techie, so...no. :)
 
@DanielsPitkevičs I think part of the reason the trend continues is because the talented programmers tend to stay away from web development.
Pity.
The web needs better programmers and architects.
 
@LeviMorrison But web development is great place to start Your carrier
Ok guys, c ya tomorrow
 
yes, today, everyone can be web developer...
 
1:36 PM
thankyou jQuery
 
@DanielsPitkevičs , standalone has a stormy forecast .. think 50-core CPUs
 
Hurr Durr - I know jQuery and wordpress.... i'll charge you $3000 to make your companies website! I'm a Web Developer! my hate for wordpress and jQuery shows through
 
Hey, I have a bunch of stuid functions to convert stuff between data formats. Is there a better way to keep them all in a same place rather than just haviing a generic functions.php file. Maybe a Converters class with only static methods?
 
@rlemon Like, proofreading and translating documents?
 
For instance i have to handle a stupid date format which is "number of days since january 1st 1997" and convert it to datetime, readable format, etc...
 
1:38 PM
@rlemon yes, i tell him i charge $120/hr for "techie stuff"..
 
Wordpress programmers charge $150 per hour, and I can only charge $50, because I don't know WP...
 
@deceze lol yea, or like setting up the file servers and all the office networking - or doing the company website when i'm a C developer :P
 
PHP
what is the condition of Magento developer? how much they charged ?
 
or doing the intranet site :P i'm not complaining - just proving the point that often you will need to know how to write web and desktop and all other forms of software - as well as basic networking skills and knowledge of major operating systems and how to maintain / admin them
 
1:40 PM
yes, if I HAVE TO KNOW, then I WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT...
but if you know it already, it's a plus for you...
 
@tereško good answer on that question..
 
@rlemon Then no, never happened to me... ;-P
 
@LeviMorrison You're funny
"I definitely agree with Mr. Nikita Popov" ^^
 
@webarto you don't "know" wp? Theres nothing really to know about it.. Well.. other than that its a steamy pile of donkey shit.
 
*Miss
 
1:42 PM
@Leigh ZING
 
@gorelative And that everyone and their grandma wants a wordpress site
 
@gorelative I've seen framework developers turn to WP development because of teh money :)
 
@BenjaminBrizzi thats because its easy for the end-user to manage it. I still use it on most of my clients sites. but when they want to start extending it and making Wordpress into an ecommerce site.. thats when i show them the door.
 
@gorelative That should be when you charge them more money
 
not worth my time @Leigh
thats trying to polish a turd. in the end its still a turd =P
 
1:44 PM
@gorelative Then charge more money :)
 
@NikiC Hey, it was very polite.
 
@gorelative Yeah, I know, I spent about a year working freelance making wordpress sites. It's also pretty much why I stopped freelancing.
 
@webarto , while it might be true ( though i doubt it ) , WP "programmers" spend much less time on actually developing something , also , they are welded to a tool, which is becoming increasingly obsolete
 
@LeviMorrison It was :D
 
The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare. In this context, "almost surely" is a mathematical term with a precise meaning, and the "monkey" is not an actual monkey, but a metaphor for an abstract device that produces a random sequence of letters and symbols ad infinitum. The relevance of the theory is questionable—the probability of a monkey exactly typing a complete work such as Shakespeare's Hamlet is so tiny tha...
^ WordPress
 
1:45 PM
my passion is development, as a result i do this on the side and not for a living. I can pick and choose what i want. Wordpress sites are easy money, and the end-user signs off on it quicker when they realize they can manage it themselves for the most part.
 
@rlemon so true
 
No one answered my question so I'll just make a class with a bunch of static methods :P
 
go for it
 
@BenjaminBrizzi RUN AWAY
 
@BenjaminBrizzi Why do you think that would help?
 
1:46 PM
 
@tereško jesse-anderson.com/2011/10/… that is interesting (on the topic of a million monkeys)
 
Ahahaha I got your attention ^^
I just want to group a bunch of functions under a common logical "place"
 
namespaces?
 
I might use a namespace then ^^
 
class?
 
1:47 PM
point ? context ?
 
@tereško themeforest.net/user/GeertDD github.com/GeertDD :) ... doesn't matter, it is good money compared to quality and quantity of work, I've seen many examples, e.g. I made a shitty plugin and earned about $1000, pretty much for nothing...
 
awaits @tereško flaumbay
 
"Hey, I have a bunch of stuid functions to convert stuff between data formats. Is there a better way to keep them all in a same place rather than just haviing a generic functions.php file. Maybe a Converters class with only static methods?"
They're mostly date formats fyi
 
@webarto indeed, easy pickin's. my old boss hired "programmers" that used a few of your plugins lol
 
@gorelative , naaah , i am current eating and have an ice-cold beer .. i am satisfied with the world ATM
 
1:49 PM
@tereško what kind of beer? Its 6:49am here, another 10mins and its beer thirty.
 
@tereško ugh - I wish I had food... and beer...
it's almost ten am here - 7 more hours till beer for me :<
 
haha:
can you please download Google files for me? I will pay you! — Kalpesh Mehta 2 mins ago
 
whatf?
 
say what
 
@rlemon Such a misnomer. It doesn't require infinite monkies or an infinite amount of time
 
1:51 PM
@gorelative I always have envato sites to make money for food :D
 
@webarto my problem is finding stuff to write a plugin for..
 
@Leigh with infinite amount of monkeys you can do it instantly
 
@Leigh no it wont - but the theory states that any amount of random input given INFINITE amount of time will produce every combination of text available - ergo Shakespeares complete works - or the WP source code.
 
@gorelative yes that is a problem... market is saturated pretty much...
 
@tereško if it's possible at all, you can do it with a finite amount of monkies :)
 
1:53 PM
Imagine all those bananas...
 
anybody here tried to learn python?
 
finite amount of monkeys and infinite amount of time or infinite monkeys each with the time to only hit one key - there we have it
 
@rlemon if they only hit 1 key, you wont produce much
 
collective works
 
and you basically compared WP source to the works of shakespeare
 
1:54 PM
@Leigh are you trying to be a troll?
did you read anything I said?
 
@rlemon I don't have to try...
 
seriously - how did I compare the two?
 
why would anyone read what you said ? it would be counterproductive
 
ahhh there is teresko
was wondering where you went.
out of beer now?
 
also it's more fun to not read it, and watch you blow up :)
 
1:55 PM
facts are known to have left-leaning bias
 
screw this, im going to go stare at the cute chicks on the 5th floor.
 
I don't blow up - In fact I sigh once and type furiously
 

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