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9:00 PM
Still welcoming me to nginx
 
can you traceroute to both of those addresses ?
86.178.168.218 and 109.159.6.98
 
this is fun, so with http requests I get the same thing as jeeves, but with traceroute the 109 address fails while the 86 works
 
can't connect to 109.159.6.98
 
can another person do tracerouting please
 
I can trace both
 
9:03 PM
wut
 
I have routes to both, can only connect to the 86
 
gn all
 
@Paul why is the address wrong ?
109.159.6.98
 
9:07 PM
@JoeWatkins I can trace both as well. gist.github.com/trowski/cb199cfcab58fa9deb0ca7c52dd919ac
 
wtf did I copy and paste
 
I'm not sure, numbers are all a blur to me right now :D
 
Is it flip flopping between one router and the other that's able to serve?
*modem
 
so we all have routes ?
@Leigh well not when you use addresses directly, when you use nevis.krakjoe.ninja it will RR
 
one sec
 
9:10 PM
@JoeWatkins So it's always been one that's accepted connections and one that hasn't?
 
yeah before I plugged in new routers, nobody could get a route to both addresses, and the route you could get was random ... so this is progress, we all have routes
 
If they're the same hardware, wondering if you tried downloading the config from one, uploading to the other, then putting the right user/pass etc. back in it
well the route is unlikely anything from your end
 
they are same hardware, but at different addresses, they are setup exactly the same
 
that will be set up by BT when you've established a PPP connection
btw, I'm currently getting nginx on both :D
oh, and now 86 not responding
it just flipped over
 
9:13 PM
and now I'm getting nginx on 86, but not 109
 
must not smash anything ...
 
how are you forwarding the connections, simple port forwarding?
 
dmz
try both addresses again ?
 
109 only
 
86 only
 
9:16 PM
hah
ok, makes me think it's not liking our source addresses coming in from both sides at once
 
we are on opposite sides of the International Joe Line
 
/me googles International Joe Line
 
Does Joe Standard Time have daylight savings or not?
Ok, I'm going to leave them for a bit, and run to the shop, I have a theory that the first one I try to access after some time will work, and the second one will fail
 
ok
I have absolutely no theories ... none ...
@DaveRandom I summon thee
 
@Leigh I don't think that's true. SSH usually fails and works the third time I try.
 
9:19 PM
@kelunik have you tried in the last 20 minutes?
 
Slightly before I according to my terminal logs
 
ok, I ... just ... I ...
it must be the asus router
 
86.178.168.218 works for me, the other one doesn't.
 
opposite for me (over WAN) :s
this is so strange
 
9:23 PM
every time I use amphp I find myself amazed at how it just works
 
@bwoebi I implemented CPU pinning, but I can't see any effect.
@Sean :-)
 
I have not, I'm not sure if it will really help ... on it's face these are impossible things ...
 
@kelunik I don't expect much effect either
 
Well, at least it worked :D
 
plot twist: the internet is actually literal plumbing in another dimension, and every time you let an ssh connection timeout, and your terminal informs you of a broken pipe, someone else somewhere else is cursing your name while ankle deep in bits, trying to cut off the flow.
 
not yet
unless you actually subscribe to the Simulation Hypothesis
 
10:03 PM
Amp seems to run a websocket forever, even after it closes. o.o
 
Connection to tcp://109.157.245.195:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
Request must specify a valid HTTP URI
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.10.0 (Ubuntu)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:06:53 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Last-Modified: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:14:53 GMT
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
ETag: W/"5863c8dd-264"
Content-Encoding: gzip
 
extract($GLOBALS); //has science gone too far?!
 
10:08 PM
hey all
 
Connection to tcp://109.157.245.195:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
why would a developer include ASP syntax in a PHP project other than to purposefully complicate the code?
 
Wes
10:27 PM
asp syntax, you mean asp style tags? <% ?
 
10:42 PM
@JoeWatkins I am summoned
in a semi-timely manner
!!uptime
 
@DaveRandom I have been running for 2 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes and 21 seconds, since 2017-01-14 13:07:04
 
891 600 780
 
kk, dm me the pw on twitter
 
look history
 
ah k
ok so that's one of the DSL routers?
 
Anonymous
10:50 PM
@PeeHaa @Ekin bf mode is much better :p
 
Anonymous
Evemong
 
@JoeWatkins I tried a couple of orders, doesn't appear to be first come first served
 
hey, so, not sure how much care is devoted to this, but there's a mistake in the documentation for `DOMNodeList::item()` -- it says it returns a `DOMElement`, but in reality it returns something that inherits from `DOMNode`, which includes e.g. `DOMAttr`. So, strictly speaking, if I had a thing like:

function foo(DOMElement $bar) { ... }

and then did

for ( $i = 0; $i < $someDOMNodeList->length; ++$i ) foo($someDOMNodeList->item($i);

it might raise an error that the documentation would not cause you to expect if your `DOMNodeList` included `DOMAttr`'s
formatting: whhyyy, suuug?
 
@Dereleased what it returns doesn't necessarily inherit from DOMNode either
 
@Wes yes, <% style tags
 
10:57 PM
@PaulCrovella even better. Why would you expect that a DOMNodeList would only contain DOMNodes...
 
any recommendation for a good sci-fi book?
 
@Dereleased yep. example - these are instances of DOMNameSpaceNode, which aren't DOMNodes. fun, huh.
 
11:20 PM
@JayIsTooCommon /me agrees :D
 
Wes
dammit
$x = new class(){};
$y = eval('return new class extends ' . get_class($x) . '{};');
var_dump($y);
 
@JayIsTooCommon indeed it is :-)
 
@PaulCrovella Interesting that they do seem to extend from DOMNode in HHVM. But yeah, that's... that's just great
 
@JoeWatkins on the other hand... do you actually need the complicated dual WAN?
 
@DaveRandom erm ... yeah ... unless you know of another way for all machines on the network to use both lines ?
 
11:33 PM
no, brain fart
 
timeout
ugh
 
works internally
 
Connection to tcp://86.178.10.179:8080 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
no wait, it doesn't, it gives me asus router
 
11:34 PM
yeh it will, the routers know they have those addresses so it just answers on the loopback
 
wtf
 
wait lolwut
 
Connection to tcp://86.178.10.179:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
ho ho wait a second @JoeWatkins
can I jump on and try something?
 
11:38 PM
sure
tv says "not ready"
 
I have found something that might be what I was looking for in the first place on that there internet
@JoeWatkins awesome :-P
new pw?
 
891 600 780
 
hey room
i have an interesting bug report from a user who use alpine linux (it uses musl instead of glibc, if i get it right)
tl;dr on alpine this snippet 3v4l.org/m7hpq/vld#output shows integer zero
does it covered by some tests in PHP or does this behavior fall under any rules/rfc/spec?
ping @Andrea ^
 
@DaveRandom still connected ?
 
failed
 
11:50 PM
How to add answers on developer's story? I'm troubling in that.
 
"authentication rejected"
 
I would also appreciate any suggestion (or list of nicknames to spam-ping =)
 
@pinepain possibly related openwall.com/lists/musl/2016/03/04/5
 
@DaveRandom history
 
I know that's not helpful, but it contains the words "nan" "musl" and "0" :P
 
11:57 PM
@Leigh yeah, thanks, that's on my list (in fact it was one of top google search result for "musl nan", third for me, with google suggestion "Did you mean: muslim man", which just tied all picture together).
 
could have been worse, could have given you pictures of 80 year old professional bodybuilder ladies
 
@JoeWatkins there? I got booted
 

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