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11:00 AM
what worries me is that kind of code isn't going to be abnormal ... I don't cringe if I see a few annotations on a method, and I can see some cool stuff we can do with it ...
I really hate the idea of opening some component and finding that 75% of it is annotations ...
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of course such code exists today, but its not normal ... if the language has support for it, it becomes accessible to everyone eventually, and so eventually normal ...
 
@JoeWatkins as a developer who's been there, done that, I very much agree with that.
sorry for multipings. but ocd :)
 
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11:06 AM
I'm unsure if these are good enough reasons to vote no on a feature it seems like everyone wants tho, one that shouldn't have any implementation problems left by the time it's merged ...
 
anyone interested in doing something fun with neural networks?
 
@ChristophBühler will it make me filthy rich?
 
@Gordon only filthy
 
@ChristophBühler then no, I got that already
 
11:19 AM
is there an official list of the Seven Wonders of the PHP World? because @NikiC's AST would definitely be one of them
(I just happened to re-read the AST RFC and I'm still impressed at what a good job he did.)
 
Anonymous
I still have no idea the use-cases for php-ast. :\
 
at the moment, static analysis is probably it's best use case ...
 
Morning
 
people use it for other stuff, magical code generation and stuff ...
ohai @rtheunissen
:)
why did that happen ? got somewhere new ?
 
I'll elaborate elsewhere, but short answer nope, no plans. Moving back home for a while, out of here on Monday. Will regroup, figure out what's next.
 
11:28 AM
congrats, @rtheunissen. sounds like you left something you needed to leave.
 
the question is, what to do next ?
 
Thanks @PaulCrovella, it's never an easy decision.
 
@JoeWatkins hey man, I've heard you are kind of a hacker, is that right?
 
@ChristophBühler not so much ...
well kinda, I suppose, we all are, aren't we ?
 
@JoeWatkins the question smells a little bit like Gosa asking the Ghostbusters, so careful what you answer
 
11:31 AM
@JoeWatkins Do you want to do sth with NNs?
 
@JoeWatkins sleep, read the books I've been meaning to read, get my motivation back. I don't like not having a plan but it's refreshingly low stress to not have responsibility either.
 
I don't remember what that's like ... no responsibility ...
 
@ChristophBühler protip: instead of being vague, be concrete. might attract more people.
 
@ChristophBühler no idea what you're saying to me ..
@rtheunissen you should take advantage, chill for a while ...
 
"Do you want to do scalar type hints with nighty-nights?"
 
11:33 AM
soon enough there will be no stopping, ever ... until you die ...
 
@ChristophBühler Asking us "wanna do something with NN" feels a lot like our parents explaining our jobs with "something with computers"
 
Alright, I'd like to create a web service for neural networks.
 
Anonymous
That is even more vague description.
 
Hello everyone I can't change plesk php-fpm settings are there anyone who can help me?
 
!!google neural network as a service
 
11:35 AM
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oh neural network, I did not get that ...
 
@Gordon the other option is to spam it across a half-dozen different rooms... oh wait
 
did that happen ?
 
@rtheunissen Must be missing context … you lost your job or what?
 
@bwoebi yeah, decided it's time for something new.
What that is though... I haven't figured out yet.
 
Maybe just a few months of open source and rest / relax.
 
tut tut @ChristophBühler
@rtheunissen E_MUTUAL_EXCLUSION_ERROR_CAUSING_EXPLOSIONS_PAIN_AND_DEATH_ON_A_MASS_SCALE
 
@Andrea the first wonder is its creation, the second wonder its age …
 
I never write that out hehe ...
 
Hey what's to say that working on cool open source projects isn't relaxing? ;)
I'll just schedule my priorities well, too much of either won't do me any good.
 
11:49 AM
if you mean writing something, putting it up on github with an open source license, then never promoting it or involving other people - yeah that's great
 
Contributing.
 
@rtheunissen is going to spend some time with Aerys! I know it already!
(hehe)
 
There is still a lot of work to do on php-ds but yes @bwoebi very open to see what I can do to help.
 
@rtheunissen hucking code over the wall then quietly sneaking away is good too ;)
 
being too relaxed would be an excellent problem to have ...
 
11:51 AM
I'm afraid that it would be too difficult to pull myself out of that.
 
@rtheunissen php-ds is an interesting point … should be definitely finished, even if it were only for academic purposes.
@JoeWatkins I have that problem … somehow … Feeling like I'm more motivated when I should really be doing something else.
 
I don't want to get too used to being lazy.
 
yeah, once you do, it's definitely difficult to get motivated again
 
Am wary of that, so I'll check in and prod at some code from time to time.
 
all of the stuff I should and shouldn't be doing are mixed up in a big bowl, with candy ... I grab handfuls and don't really care what's in them, so long as there is candy ...
 
11:54 AM
@JoeWatkins now, please try to stop being addicted to sugar except for regular meals… :-D
 
Cereal makes for excellent dinner in the morning.
 
painfully obvious that you are newly single :D
cereal, dinner, morning :D
 
Life is good.
 
hehe
 
hehe
 
11:58 AM
internals is really loud at the moment ...
but nothing is really being said ...
haha
that guy ... there can't be another one like that ...
 
(me trying to not involve politics in every conversation I'm in)
 
speaking of the US ... you know the UK government put out a warning that LGBT people should not travel to certain states in the US ... like they might advise you not to travel to, Iraq say ...
 
Yeah read that, it's insane. My faith in humanity has seen the most extreme ups and downs over the last few months.
 
you think that's a way of trying to put pressure on these states in some way ? or are there actually parts of the USA where you may be in some kind of danger ?
I find it hard to imagine it could put any pressure on anyone, so it seems like there might be an actual danger ...
 
The US are the pressure.
There's an actual uncertainty.
 
12:06 PM
@JoeWatkins about attributes…? Yeah, we're already at 2^7-1 …
 
@bwoebi yeah, it's so protracted, I'm not sure it is useful anymore ...
why not ... I dunno ... discuss the proposal we have :D
@rtheunissen I guess that answers the question ... this may create a feeling of danger, legitimate or not ...
 
@JoeWatkins /me learned 1 new word
 
did you just learn a thing from me ?
:)
 
@JoeWatkins conclusion: You are an useful person
:-D
@JoeWatkins hah, the edit history :-D "fucking hell"
 
:)
must swear less ... but I was pretty shocked :)
 
12:15 PM
@DaveRandom does that mean you actually fixed the fuck off mechanism?
Mornign room
 
there are so many messages on those attributes related threads, that I can even find one from Pierre, that I agree with every word of ...
 
@JoeWatkins well, but that's how I'm learning English … writing in chats … most I understand (the technical English), but some times I get to talk about something else, opening the box of Pandora (of unknown words).
 
yohaa
 
@PeeHaa moi(h)n
 
I learn words from you, and nikita, all the time, like every week almost, then I find out what they mean, and immediately forget the word ... but next time it comes up, I'll know what it means ...
 
12:19 PM
@JoeWatkins More tension than danger maybe.
 
@JoeWatkins from us? It's not like we'd be talking German here more often than once per semester maybe?
 
english words
I am not educated to the same level as you or niki ...
 
really? from me? Can't believe that…
Or do you mean technical terms?
 
yeah tech and science related stuff
 
Yeah, we all learn from each other
 
12:22 PM
wait, that stuff is english?
 
I only had 3 years of English in school … so, learning by chatting … :-D
 
I didn't even complete 3 years of high school :o
 
uuuuuuh wat??!?
 
I never finished high school, I've never sat an exam ...
 
What did you do after school then?
 
12:27 PM
the honest answers to these questions make me a bit uncomfortable ...
life was complicated in my house as a child ...
 
Hey. I've recently changed the collation for my MySQL database and one of the fields returns to php as blank. I'm not sure if I should ask here or in the MySQL chat but thought I'd check if anyone knows why it does this?
 
@JoeWatkins DM'd you on twitter…
 
@PeeHaa I left it there in case there's something else, but I'm working on a major improvement to that whole routine
 
Nice!
 
...about which I shall ask a general question shortly
 
12:34 PM
kk
 
bah! debugged into a legacy cake app to find out why its not rendering a view. found lots of horrid code… then realized the app was just missing an echo. another hour of my life wasted
 
hello
 
12:58 PM
@bwoebi @kelunik @PeeHaa Does something like pastebin.com/ZPCbsVJD already exist in a lib somewhere that I can reuse?
 
@DaveRandom kelunik/redis-mutex or similar
@DaveRandom github.com/kelunik/redis-mutex yeah, that
 
Given that I want a pure-PHP (no redis etc) solution and don't need it distributed, is that/anything else suitable?
 
@DaveRandom what do you want to lock against?
only local other PHP processes?
 
The chat client trying to do more than one post at once, which it can't because of server throttling
 
@DaveRandom what do you need a lock for that' have a simple queue then?
 
1:03 PM
But postMessage()/editMessage() needs to be awaitable
It's not fire and forget
 
@DaveRandom sure, you can just fulfil the Promise after it was dequeued
 
ummm... I can't visualise it, any chance of a code sample?
 
Hey guys. I've been away from php for some time now, but now I'm back. I've updated to php 5.6 on my local VM machine and been looking through new features of php 5.5. Came across generators. Not sure what for are they. One thing is to loop through collection, other thing is just some loop. Not sure where it can be applied and for what purpose.
 
function queue($job) { $this->queue[] = [$def = new Deferred, $job]; return $def->promise(); }
function dequeue() { if (!$this->queue) return; list($def, $job) = array_shift($this->queue); $def->succeed($job()->when(function() { dequeue(); /* next job */ })); }
@DaveRandom ^ very simplistic example
 
oic
@bwoebi What if $job is itself a generaor async?
 
1:09 PM
@DaveRandom then you do an $def->succeed(\Amp\resolve($job))
 
Explanation with examples would be greatly appreciated
 
@Eugene Technically, you can avoid allocating vey much memory (instead of returning all at once, you return small chunks which can be worked on one by one) … or decreased latency (e.g. network and you return data as it comes in)
 
Any real world examples? Because on my end nothing comes to mind. Thought about pagination, but that is not it.
 
Also, they can be nicely used as input consumers/output producers, when you don't have input for them all the time and do other things in between (Generators have the advantage of being one single function with access to everything)
@Eugene github.com/amphp/aerys/blob/master/lib/Websocket/… (parser) … or, generally, as resumable function where you wait on things (async/await replacement; check out e.g. github.com/amphp/amp)
 
1:22 PM
Happy caturday!11
 
@RonniSkansing What's "caturday"? Is it "teacher's day" ?
 
@Shafizadeh you do know what a cat is, right?
 
@Shafizadeh a combination of cat + saturday … nothing which would exist in any dictionary
 
yes, so?
 
!!urban caturday
 
1:25 PM
[ Caturday ] A meme created by 4chan, NOT MYSPACE, that many forums and discussion boards have adopted.
 
@bwoebi oh .. got it
 
=)
Yea, its just way to enjoy this wonderful day even more
 
@bwoebi looked at the code, looked at the guide in blog post, but still not getting it. Maybe I just haven't come across a place where Generator is needed in my code.
 
@Eugene probably not needed. It mainly makes things easier when you have to start, interrupt and resume
 
1:33 PM
Okay. In my code I use logic of Symphony, where you register listeners and fire events, that are handled with listeners registered for specific events. There is pretty much no point in those actions (start, interrupt and resume) as far as I can see.
 
@bwoebi It's not coming out with less code so I'm going to keep just the class for now (as it does work, does encapsulate the functionality nicely and is reusable) until someone refactors it or my brain starts work properly.
 
Like, as in the parser example … you feed some data in, which calls routines. The parser stores internal state so that it can resume logic exactly there where it stopped. It basically avoids having a big switch at start to goto there where you stopped on last call.
 
@staabm it's not so much this sort of thing I need, more like a multi-threaded lock on a variable
certainly don't want to touch the file system
 
so I can iterate over "infinite ranges" without having a huge load in memory and easy to seperate state into
you can see the use of them in the example file github.com/RonnieSkansing/php-generator/blob/master/example.php
 
1:43 PM
@bwoebi but thank you for the explanation.
 
I still left the catch(\Throwable) in because we should handle it anyway, but hopefully that will make it quite a bit more reliable (it certainly works as expected locally)
bbiab, later @all
 
That makes me happy \o/
 
@DaveRandom that's totally meeeeeh :-P
 
2:05 PM
user image
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2:28 PM
@Gordon lol
 
Does someone know how to get PHP working on localhost?
 
2:44 PM
Could you please elaborate? Are you asking about setting local dev environment?
 
Yes, something like that.
@ShubhamoyChakrabarty Is there any ports that would support PHP?
 
For Windows, you can try WAMP(wampserver.com)
 
Anything for Mac OS?
 
For Mac, you can use Homebrew to set it up or download MAMP
 
Is MAMP free-to-use?
 
2:47 PM
Yeah
 
Or do you have to buy it after 14 days of trial?
Okay, I see.
I'll install it and see what happens, I'll reach out soon, thanks!
 
Sure
@JamesSnowy You can also try vagrant for mimicking your production environment on your local machine. Check puphpet.com
 
o/
 
@ShubhamoyChakrabarty I've set up MAMP, but how do I target the specific folder I'm working with?
 
2:59 PM
/Applications/MAMP/htdocs
 
Do I drag the folder to the htdocs folder?
 
Yeah you can do that
 
Okay, I'll try it.
 
Noooooo! Don't use MAMP
 
Can I remove the content inside htdocs?
 
3:01 PM
srsly people. its 2016
 
@Gordon Why?
 
@JamesSnowy use vagrant or docker
 
@Gordon What about setting up everything using Homebrew?
 
Anonymous
@Gordon Maybe people have some limitations.
 
@ShubhamoyChakrabarty You want your development setup to mimic the production setup. That's why you use a Virtual Machine that is as close as possible to the production server (which is very likely not a Mac). That prevents surprises from different setups when deploying you code to prodution. /cc @JamesSnowy @samayo
 
Anonymous
3:05 PM
I would love to use all the top tools, but I have pretty bad laptop so .. sometimes I have to even use the php built-in server, instead of staring vbox.
 
Anonymous
I know that.
 
Anonymous
I'm just saying that, not everyone can afford to use all of the cool softwares.
 
@samayo rightly said
 
@samayo well, linux, vagrant, virtualbox are free software, so afford them you can
 
Anonymous
@Gordon Not when you have a 2GB, 32bit windows 7, which is 6 years old.
 
Anonymous
3:08 PM
Docker does not even support 32bit (last time I checked)
 
Anonymous
I had to make miracles happen to run CentOs7 on vbox :)
 
@samayo if you have a laptop that can barely run windows, why do you expect to be able to do development with it.
 
Anonymous
You can develop with it, you just have to use less CPU-extensive tools and tricks as I do. Which is something you seem to indicate is a choice (hence with the 2016 reference).
 
Anonymous
but it's not.
 
you are basically saying: "I wanna do woodchucking, but all I have is this butter knife". Or "I wanna sail the ocean but all I have is this air matress"
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Anonymous
3:14 PM
Bad analogy.
 
"I wanna build this wall, but I only have bricks and superglue."
 
Anonymous
At the end of the day, we create websites, and build applications. All, of which I am able to do with my laptop. It just a lot more painful for me than for you.
 
Anonymous
It's like running a marathon without the proper equipment. You can still run/finish ...
 
Anonymous
Which is nothing like sailing the ocean with air mattress.
 
Anonymous
Admit it, your analogy sucks :)
 
3:18 PM
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36956485/recaptcha-codeigniter-we‌​ird-error
 
@samayo of course it is: air matress -> bad equiment. you can make it if you are lucky. but you will likely drown.
and even if I agree that for your specific scenario using WAMP or some other local way of development is the only choice, it certainly is not the recommended way of doing this in general.
 
Anonymous
About a two months ago, I got an internship (accepted) in a company where the developer used only WAMP, all projects prefixed with http://127.0.0.1/project-xyz that pretty much did it for me.
 
Anonymous
I could not do an internship of 4 years, $600/m and see this guy get $4000+
 
Anonymous
It was all: cakphp2.2/jquery/bootstrap/wamp
 
Anonymous
Best decision I've ever made.
 
Wes
3:30 PM
afternoon
 
@Sara Don't have the patch working but what happens when they nest?
some() |> thing(nested() |> foo($$, $$))
Or something
?
 
Wes
@Gordon if you have enough superglue... well that's going to be better than cement or mortar :B but it's like 1000 times as expensive :B
 
Wes
3:58 PM
@LeviMorrison maybe it should be disallowed to nest them?
 
4:28 PM
@bwoebi that is actually the zend-expressive pipeline, just written via piping. I have 5 apps running with that exact code. ZF2 is not much different, and I wrote dozens of apps with it, but it is event-driven internally.
@bwoebi zend-expressive, as already said. Slim and Silex also being pretty much the same
 
@Ocramius but that one pretty much looks like a single instance of carefully crafted functions so that they can work together in that way and principally is only boilerplate
 
"Woah, somebody made an example! Let's actually ask him to write the entire impl"
dude, I just told you where I took it from, and I wrote half the damn thing.
 
Nah, just invoking the argument of limited applicability
I can't imagine this being helpful in general.
 
FWIW, there are better examples around coroutines
stuff like react/http and icicleIO would benefit massively from this stuff
 
@Ocramius uh? really?
 
4:32 PM
Yeah, basically reuse reactive patterns via piping
makes it much easier to read the entire thing too
 
quick example?
 
requestFetchLoop($eventLoop)() |> businessLogic($eventLoop)() |> responder($eventLoop)()
something like this
well, ofc you can just map those with the event loop, then pass them to the pipe
but it still makes it easy to understand what is going on
/me off to gaming
 
@Ocramius I rather meant like concrete examples which would look better with a pipe
not pseudo-code
 
@bwoebi CQRS/ES apps or any router
here's one, for example: gorodinski.com/blog/2013/02/17/…
Now that I think of it, it would be awesome if $$ could be avoided for single-parameter functions, and always use the piped value for the last defined function parameter
 
@Ocramius what is the last one if you have optional params?
or do you mean append to passed params?
 
4:44 PM
not sure - I just had a random thought about it, not formalized :P
But $a |> $callable1 | $callable2 | $callable3 sounds cool
 
@Ocramius I seem to not understand the F# syntax… sorry :-/
 
I also only partially understand it. Still learning Haskell, and also in my first long-running Event-Sourced app atm. I can see where this would be useful btw
@bwoebi this is my current app's workflow represented as SVG, FYI: marco-pivetta.com/screen/caps/5b57ce.png
(own project)
pipes would make the implementation show this thing, and I'd also be able to see the entire implementation in possibly 15 lines of very expressive code
that graph is basically lines 47 to 51 of the first code example at gorodinski.com/blog/2013/02/17/… - specific to my domain tho
 
@Ocramius the lines between columns overlap at bit too much. … I honestly think I need real code (not reduced to individual snippets) to evaluate it more properly.
 
I don't have code written in languages that I am not currently using, for obvious dependency issues :D
Anyway, that link to the F# stuff is not pseudo-code: it's the actual impl.
 
5:01 PM
man, the zebra stripe background makes it really hard to appreciate
 
@Ocramius "always use the piped value for the last defined function parameter" - blah, that's boring. $1 - use the return value of the last piped operator. $2 the return value of the second last piped operator. etc.... /cc @Sara
 
Wes
some() |> thing(nested() |> foo($1, $2)) @Danack what $1 would be here. maybe nesting should be disallowed
 
"maybe nesting should be disallowed" - things that are always true....
 
Wes
but i like the $1 $2 $3 with $$ being the last one ($$ === $3, right?)
 
$$ gets in the way of variable variables....
 
Wes
5:11 PM
ah so that syntax can't be used?
 
if I've read the thread right (I might have started skimming after a point).
 
Wes
$?
 
£
 
What about the euro sign. That way at least everybody has trouble typing it
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Wes
lol
 
5:15 PM
with $< and $> representing before/after from the last one used and $| as the current e.g. $3 $< $| $< $> is $3 $2 $2 $1 $2.. this "expressive" thing is fun
 
Wes
@Danack that's also the sign of the good old italian Lira :B
 
Same source - Latin symbol for .....something.
> libra, the basic unit of weight in the Roman Empire
Oh, and - Lira was ₤ ? With dat double dash.
 
Wes
Pound = Libbra
yep
 
Night . ...........
 
sleep tite.
 
Wes
5:30 PM
thanks, google
 
5:51 PM
@NikiC Argh, I was about to send the reply to Derick, when you answered :-D (I mean, when my mail client loaded your mail)
@Danack $${foo} is still allowed, but $$ {foo} isn't then
@PeeHaa why trouble? alt+e for me
 
@bwoebi alt+0128 for me
 
boo, filthy Windows user ^^
 
Ekn
good evenings
 
Beats mac's stupids shortcode where you accidentally add magic charcters
 
@PeeHaa deactivated ^^
 
5:57 PM
How do you do that?
system preferences?
 
hammer?
 
:P
 
@PeeHaa sure
sys prefs -> keyboard -> text
no replacements, no typographical interpunction, no auto-correct
and everything's much more enjoyable
 
\o/ ty
 
If some behavior is annoying, there's usually some chance there's some pref for it
 
6:02 PM
Yeah. It happens just enough to annoy me, but just not often enough to search for it :P
 
live-analysis of text (correction) is fine, but it shouldn't replace it
easy when you're always just typing one language, but otherwise :x
 
6:22 PM
@YOSHI Please see my Edit, it's now clearer and simpler to understand.... Link: stackoverflow.com/questions/36957442/… .... I also added a basic test page url .. 3v4l.org/IFJME
 
@UniversalGrasp I don't see a problem. What exactly are you expecting as a result?
 
@NikiC shall I simply export zend_pass_function then? (Or do you?)
 
@PaulCrovella... Please hold... my PC is restarting abruptly... Apologies
@PaulCrovella It's cool now, it worked well with queryPath... I'hv removed the Question.... Thanks buddy!
 
6:38 PM
k
 
current status: playing with github.com/bamos/dream-art
 
@bwoebi feel free
 
@Gordon that second example reminds me of theonion.com/graphic/…
 
@PaulCrovella the deep dream stuff is weird. but the neural-style stuff is awesome
@PaulCrovella check the examples at github.com/jcjohnson/neural-style
 
@Gordon ... Can I add that in my project??... Wow, Amazing
@Gordon is it a plug-in?
 
6:45 PM
@UniversalGrasp it's neural networks
 
@Gordon yeah, I remember when these came out.. aside from the initial "hey neat" it's not terribly interesting to me.. the novelty wore off pretty quick
 
@Gordon ... Written in PHP?
 
@UniversalGrasp no. torch and lua or something
@PaulCrovella they are handy for updating your fb profile picture ;)
 
@NikiC done
 
I'd need a fb profile for that.
 
6:47 PM
@Gordon can it be PHP mkixed?
***mixed
 
@UniversalGrasp it's two scripts. you can call the scripts from php if thats what you mean.
 
@Gordon ... Gotta give it a try!... Thanks for sharing!
 
@UniversalGrasp the pictures from that boredpanda page are apparently from ostagram.ru. And that is just a web api written in RoR over the neural-style thing. See github.com/SergeyMorugin/ostagram
 
@Gordon ... Thanks buddy!
 
however, note the following:
> How long does it take to process a single image? This depends on the neural network model, image size, and number of iterations. On average, DeepDream takes about 5 minutes and the art takes about 15 minutes on a GPU.
> How much memory does this use? This also depends on the neural network model, image size, and number of iterations. On average, both consume about 4GB of memory.
so this is not a project you can run on some shared hosting webspace
 
6:54 PM
@Gordon great... I think is worth the memory-expenses
 
@Gordon that's cool buddy!
 
Wes
@DaveRandom any chance to put this into votes? wiki.php.net/rfc/additional-splat-usage
 
7:41 PM
@Wes assuming it's complete and makes sense (you'll notice that what's there was written 2 years ago and I had forgotten about it) and @NikiC is still happy to write a patch (or someone who is not me as I cannot do it in a timely fashion)
I'll review it in the week, but I may need a reminder
 
@DaveRandom still up to it ... should be easy
 
Cool, tnx :-)
 
@DaveRandom one thing that should be spelled out is interaction with references (i.e. that the unpack is by-value (i think ^^))
 
Iirc the rfc was incomplete in some way, that may be it
 
posted on April 30, 2016 by nikic

This is a re-release of version 0.8.0 without code changes. Given the number of dependent projects there should be a formally stable release :)

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Wes
7:48 PM
it's not in the examples but would be useful to have [$a, $b, $c, ...$splice, $d, $e] as well
ie not just concat
 
If it's not clear from the examples that this would be possible then yeh, that needs updating
Bbiab food
 
Anonymous
It is me, does a table with 100 Million records carry scary connotations with it?
 
Anonymous
Mainly, because I'm worried about performance, even though perf depends on query optimization, the mysql engine and all..
 
Wes
problem is sorting. if you will need to sort large recordsets mysql will probably struggle, even on powerful machines
otherwise you should be fine
 
@samayo have fun running that on your 2 gig win7 ;)
 
Anonymous
7:56 PM
@Wes Yeah, that's why I said query optimization. I'm not going to do SELECT * FROM ..
 
@Jimbo do you remember what post you were referring to in this message? I'm curious now :p
 
Anonymous
@Gordon It's not fun at all, trust me.
 
Anonymous
I prefer to work on production server.
 
Wes
@samayo isn't that a query :P
 
@samayo that's scary
 
7:58 PM
@LeviMorrison I still have mixed feelings about whether I made the right decision there.
@LeviMorrison my number one gripe with PHP, for some reason
 
Anonymous
@PaulCrovella It's a production server but I use cryptic sub-domains like http://dev-13x323.mysite.com
 
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You won't have to worry about google indexing it, as long as you hide it.
 
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