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12:08 AM
yo
@Anfurny New York is rivaling it significantly
 
any company which takes Zend Cert seriously is not worth working for
 
@tereško as in requires it, yes. As in will hurt, no...
 
it only tells that you know the basic php
what's even worth is that you actually went out of your way to get that Cert , as there is no other way you can illustrate your skill ...
which usually is the case
 
Hey guys, If I give a user a Session variable on domain1.com can I access said session variable if they then travel to domain2.com?
 
.. or you could say that i suffer from chronicle disillusionment syndrome
no , not really
 
12:18 AM
@me?
 
session variables are tied to the cookies on the client side and /tmp folder on the serverside
 
hmmm
is there a way to tell where somebody is coming from? I have a link on 2 websites that go to a WP blog and I need to filter posts depending on what domain they are coming from
I was thinking of using Javascript history but if they open the blog in a new window the window won't have history :/
 
you can access $ SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'] , but you cannot trust it
 
yeah i was thinking cookies also but you can't trust the user to have them enabled
 
anyone have an idea why these Rewrite rules are not working?
0
Q: mod_rewrite partial URI match returning 404

EzraRewriteRule ^media/assets/([^\/]*).js$ /content.php?lang=js&code=$1 [L] RewriteRule ^media/assets/([^\/]*).css$ /content.php?lang=css&code=$1 [L] I'm getting 404 error on these rules, What am I missing?

 
12:26 AM
i guess im not too worried about people faking http_ref but i wonder how common it is to not send that kind of information at all
 
If you are linking them from websites you have control over, you could use ?ref= in the hyperlink.
 
well I have control over it but it's going to open in a new tab, would that transfer over?
 
@HowdyMcGee , instead of worrying about fake refs , you should worry about no refs at all
 
yeah thats what i mean, i wonder how common that is
if it's not too common i can just fall back on default - sucks for them
:S
for robots?
like so robots don't index the link or something
 
nevermind
i was thinking of something else
@HowdyMcGee , when you open tab in a new link , there is no ref
 
12:32 AM
no you open a new tab via target
 
@Howdy_McGee If you stick /absc?ref={current_URL} in a hyperlink, no matter how they go to that page, the ?ref will exist.
 
absc?
 
I just need an example url.
Basically, your webpage sends the current page in the hyperlink via a query parameter
 
so www.domain.com/absc?ref="www.domain2.com/blog"
?
 
Yeah.
but no quotes
 
12:34 AM
@Howdy_McGee first of all .. that is the wrong way to open new tabs
and second : no .. you do it with clicking on the mouse-scroll
 
target="_blank"?
 
yes
 
that's the wrong way?
 
target attribute is a relic from times when frames ruled the world
 
whats the newschool way then lol
 
12:35 AM
@tereško The only two people here I know that have a cert is @Gordon and myself. And I don't think either one of us fit that description. So unless you can show some evidence to support your claim, I think it's a point redacted
 
besides , you are messing with user experience there , @HowdyMcGee
 
yeah their user experience messes with my SEO if I don't open it in a new tab
 
@ircmaxell , would you brandish that Cert in your interview ?
or would you leave it even out of your CV , if you were pressed for space
 
@tereško brandish? no. But is at the very bottom of my resume...
pressed for space? I have a 3 page CV as it stands now.
 
i would say it is a bad thing =P
but then again .. you might be one of people who has 3 pages of only the major highlights
 
12:38 AM
yes, only major highlights
but I go into some detail on them (describing what I was responsible for, and at least one thing I went above and beyond with)
 
@ircmaxell That's the part of resumes I enjoy reading
 
yeah. I hate reading those that just listed "I worked here with this title". What did you do there? Were you responsible for anything, or just have to show up..?
 
even i have short list of things i was responsible for in my last workplaces
and that's even while trying to compress all in a single-page CV
.. i hate the shuffling of multiple pages when sitting on the "other side" of interview table
 
I put everything important and recent on the first page.
the second and third pages are meerly background and supporting information. Could I cut it out? Sure. But I'd prefer to keep it in. I like having a half page section on conferences that I've spoken at ;-)
 
one would , yeah
yess ... babylon5 s02e01 just finished downloading
 
12:46 AM
lol
 
hey .. i am a geek , and i embrace it
 
me too
Man, that Chili Con Carne that I made today can only be described in 3 words
in cred able
 
hmm ... looks simple
i was just looking for something to make with beans few days ago
 
do you have a crock pot?
A slow cooker, also known as a Crock-Pot or Slo-Cooker (trademarks that are often used generically in the US-Canada and UK, respectively), is a countertop electrical cooking appliance that is used for simmering, which requires maintaining a relatively low temperature compared to other cooking methods (such as baking, boiling, and frying) for many hours, allowing unattended cooking of pot roast, stew, and other suitable dishes. History The Naxon Utilities Corporation of Chicago developed the Naxon Beanery All-Purpose Cooker. The Rival Company bought Naxon in 1970 and reintroduced it under...
 
i have something that looks similar
i would improvise anyway
 
12:56 AM
well, if so, just toss in the ingredients in the morning, and set it to cook while you're at work (I had mine cook for 9 hours today). Came out really good
 
I'm glad to see at least 5 other people think PHP frameworks suck.
 
@Ezra Seems like Levi's comment is pretty spot on. You're getting a 404 response because the resource you are requesting doesn't exist.
 
@CharlesSprayberry what do you mean?
 
@Ezra Umm...the data or image or whatever you're requesting couldn't be found on the server
 
@CharlesSprayberry i know what 404 means.. but why is that happening? How can I get it to do what it should do?
content.php exists as does the function within it.
^media/assets/([^\/]*).css$ dosnt work, but ^media/assets/([^\/]*)/css/$ does
 
@Ezra By the way, my comment was not an answer because it was tongue-in-cheek.
 
1:30 AM
@Ezra Sorry, I'm not familiar enough with mod_rewrite to provide assistance
 
@LeviMorrison ya, i noticed...
 
@Ezra Look in your access or error logs to see what it is rewriting to.
If we can see what it interpreted it as, we can possibly determine what went wrong.
@Ezra You need to escape the dot. \.js
 
@LeviMorrison :P ya
 
1:58 AM
hi all
what is the best practice when it comes to multiple DB from one server?
 
 
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3:08 AM
@tereško @ircmaxell sup
 
yo. Not much, just watching the hockey game
 
@ircmaxell I forgot, what's your locale?
 
bam, just found out I suck at tax estimates, meaning I'll be receiving 5 grand back pretty soon
Just like monopoly.
ircmaxell->getLocale()
(That's a ZF function for those who missed the joke)
 
@TimothyPerez East Coast USA (New York)
 
@Anfurny got it
 
4:07 AM
hi all
 
sup
 
my client ask me to make a guest login where user enter its email and password and able to login our site is it possible
login through gmail and facebook can be done but for all emails i am confused
 
I don't think that's possible for all emails. Maybe they meant that the email address would be used as their username, and they would make up their own password for your site.
 
@HelpMeToAskQuestions you need to look at the gmail / facebook login api's
 
thanx group
 
 
1 hour later…
5:36 AM
@Gordon @ircmaxell Yes they did. Anyway I was sleeping, so another mod handled it. Thanks for the flags.
It's a miracle that I still get to sleep at all.
 
@BoltClock Pffft, sleep? Who needs that?!
 
6:34 AM
-1
Q: markup validation for html tags with Regexp

J.J.I would like to replace html tags with W3 valid html tags. I have a variable $Content having a lot html tags and contents. This variable changing dynamically according to user request or when a new page is opened. I am looking for regular expression in php which can do the job with preg_repalce...

I didn't even bother to close this as a duplicate.
 
@BoltClock And we all appreciate that. If there's a topic of questions I hate more than mysql_* its HTML and regex.
 
 
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9:00 AM
0
Q: css classs attribute changing in dynamically

Kichu UserI have a codeignter based site.In that i loaded the css file like this: <link href="<?php echo base_url();?>style/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> This is the content in that file: .forgot_password { color:#FF0000; font-weight:bold; margin-left:95px; ...

this is my question
in this i want to rewrite the css file also
hi all
 
good morning everybody and a Happy New Day!!!!
@KichuUser As far as I know there (yet) does not exist any implementation of CSSOM for PHP which would be the way to go IMHO. Until it does not exists, you would need to create your own parser and CSS manupulation library.
@BoltClock To some extend I think such a question could be valid. Not with one preg_replace call though, but with a regex based tokenizer and then some processing. But tidy probably has this already with it's parser.
 
@tereško i agree that the zce is nothing special (see my blogpost) but thats all there is to it. it might give you a headstart in an interview though. and apparently companies see it that way because it sure feels like project offers increased since i did it. not via the zend site but from other portals where i am listed.
and even though its nothing special its still the only relevant php cert out there.
 
9:36 AM
> interruption in the coffee supply chain detected.
today, something is really going wrong in the office...
 
@hakre shut down everything!
 
no, the emergency refill team has been activated.
 
9:52 AM
> supply chain re-established.
 
@hakre Still way too broad though.
 
@BoltClock sure. not a helpful question.
 
10:39 AM
mhmm. got a -1 on best methods to parse html shortly after i dv'ed stackoverflow.com/questions/8026219/changing-year-months-date/… for repwhoring. mhmm :)
 
Let's check if that is by coincedence by applying the same pattern again :)
> [X] Remove Codeigniter repository.
 
Every single one?
 
@hakre id be suprised if it wasnt a revenge dv. when i dv'ed the last activity was 12 hours. when i got the dv it was 14 minutes. go figure ;)
 
10:56 AM
What does it mean when an answer is greyed out? (Pascal's, linked above)
 
That is has -3 or lower rating afaik
 
@salathe i think it fades the more dv's it has
there really should be a canonical for datetime questions. like operator reference. I'd assume about 50% of all the dups just contain strtotime+date for an answer
 
@Gordon Downvoted for repwhoring?
 
@BoltClock yeah. search through pascal's answers. he answered the same thing at least a dozen times
 
@Gordon sigh
 
11:06 AM
makes you wonder how he became #1 user in the php tag
 
@Gordon Yeah. I've seen his answers before
 
i mean its not like i didnt answer duplicates in the past, too (and @salathe reminds me of that from time to time :P) but at least i try not to do that anymore and cv instead.
 
Damn, already approaching 100 flags cleared since getting home
So many "me too" "plz help me" "did you solve it" posts
By the way, have you seen this?
63
Q: This guy keeps changing profiles to crowd-source his project

Ayman SafadiThe title pretty much sums it up. I could find at least 8 questions and 3 profiles just today. Is this abuse? Should I do something about it? What can I do about it? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8694007/it-should-display-a-number-which-is-the-number-of-buttons-selected-but-it-is-not http...

 
Yay I finally got 10k and can actually see what you are talking about!
 
Anything about a "sophisticated" jsFiddle (ahem) with "steps" to reproduce, just CV and flag
 
Pretty interesting
Maybe he is writing a paper on human based code generation
 
@BoltClock should i flag them individually?
 
So many still left open O_O
Oh I closed all of them
Lazy to delete
 
@BoltClock voted to delete them
mhmm. cannot start portable libreoffice because the locally installed openoffice quicklauncher is running. libreoffice complains there is another instance of libreoffice already running. its not! stupid fork :)
 
11:51 AM
posted on January 12, 2012 by Johannes Schlüter

Over the last few weeks I had been quite silent, but that's about to change: Over the next few weeks I'll give a few presentations. Feel free to join any of those. January, 18th: Erstellung hochperformanter PHP-Anwendungen mit MySQL (German) MySQL Webinar, Online February, 9th: MySQL Konnectoren (German) OTN Developer Day: MySQL, Frankfurt, Germany February 24th/25th: PHP under the h

 
12:13 PM
posted on January 12, 2012 by Gareth Heyes

I lost inspiration for coding a while ago and had this idea I was sitting on for a while, I’m often stuck at the design stage before I write a line of code and I will refuse to continue without a clear picture in my head on how an app is going to work. After the Christmas break I got my inspiration back and started to formulate pretty quickly how Shazzer might work. Once I was happy with the de

 
Jon
12:51 PM
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Q: PHP to Codeigniter syntax - Subtraction selecting from db / form input

JonI am trying to turn a php mysql statement into Codeigniter syntax. The code selects all from a db but the zone difference equals to two form inputs subtracted from each other. Any help is much appreciated. PHP Version select * from zone_cost where zone_diff = @( (select zone from station_zone w...

 
1:31 PM
MySQL Developer Day 2012 - Airport FFM/de - Do 9. Feb 201; 09:00 – 16:30; u.a. MySQL PHP Connectors with Johannes Schlüter - Link
 
Oracle Access Manager: Fehler

System error. Please re-try your action. If you continue to get this error, please contact the Administrator.
Huzza
To bad. Usually I take any chance to meet Johannes :P But the timing is quite bad for me anyways
 
I consider to go there.
time for lunch finally :)
 
1:54 PM
json_decode is killing my application when it encounters a huge blob of json with the following fatal error: Cannot access property started with '\0'. Ideas?
The error message itself is a bit unintuitive since I'm not actually trying to access that property.
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Q: json_encode serialize null bytes

Frits van CampenI ran into this serialize gotcha today. From PHP.net doc: Note: Object's private members have the class name prepended to the member name; protected members have a '*' prepended to the member name. These prepended values have null bytes on either side. I'm using debug_backtrace to ge...

 
hi
 
Heya @NikiC. Everything ok?
 
@ChristianSciberras yep. you?
 
Fine here. :)
That is, till my logger broke. But it ain't a big deal. Though it's sad to see the log viewer choke PHP :P
 
Hi :)
 
2:16 PM
INTERESTING
PHP "anonymous" functions are named \u0000lambda_N
That's a null + 'lambda_' + counter
 
> That's a null
Oh
No wonder
:P
 
@BoltClock Hey, it was a needle in a 300kb pile, ok? :D
Why the heck did they do that? I'm starting to suspect someone in the PHP team works just to make life miserable for PHP developers. :/
I suppose I could do an str_replace() hack. Those function names won't matter after decoding anyway.
 
@ChristianSciberras PHP uses the null byte for many things internally
E.g. private and protected properties are also marked using null bytes
 
@NikiC Strange I didn't get issues with them.
 
Probably the reason is so that you can't create them from userland and they are easily identifyable
@ChristianSciberras try var_dump((object) array("\0*\0xyz" => 'abc', "\0stdClass\0abc" => 'xyz')) and see for yourself ;)
 
2:27 PM
Let's say we're tasked with fixing this in a way or another. What would you do?
 
@ChristianSciberras What you mean by fixing?
What is there to be fixed?
Where is it causing problems?
 
@NikiC LOL
Basically, my logger json_encode's a backtrace...and it breaks when trying to decode it later on (for inspection/stats...)
I don't see why I'm able to do the above hack you mentioned but PHP is not allowed to do the same thing using json_decode (<- the "bug")
 
Ah, now I get you
 
> Cannot access property started with '\0'
 
Well, the above behavior basically is a bug, doing that cast shouldn't work. But anyways: In that case you can easily create the properties. But you can't create the lambda back just from it's name
 
2:32 PM
Well, my initial expectation would be for PHP to not encode the lambda name in the first place.
 
@ChristianSciberras btw, what kind of lambda is that?
It seems strange to me, as a lambda normally is an instance of Closure
 
I don't know, it came from wordpress...
"widgets_init": {
        "10": {
          "\u0000lambda_136": {
            "function": "\u0000lambda_136",
            "accepted_args": 1
          },
          "\u0000lambda_137": {
            "function": "\u0000lambda_137",
            "accepted_args": 1
          },
...
 
probably it's a create_function style lambda ... (as you said wordpress, I'm just naturally assuming terrible, outdated and insecure code, you know)
 
Seems to me they use functions as array index (omg)
I'd be happy to get back that text as is without PHP trying to convert it back to a lambda.
 
@ChristianSciberras codepad.viper-7.com/jEG29L Here you go. So they are using create_function() style lambdas
Heh, another reason not to use wordpress
 
2:35 PM
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੻੽瑳楲杮㤨
"慬扭慤ㅟਢ
^ that's what the server gave me O.o
 
lol
 
@ChristianSciberras Create a reflection out of the latter and drop as string.
 
@hakre You mean the backtrace? Filter the backtrace?
 
Hey, wordpress is currently the best blogging platform. Sure, it's not perfect, but neither is php
 
@ChristianSciberras GINYF
 
2:38 PM
No need to be hatin
We already think everything sucks
 
Regardless of which type of serialization you use, you would need to filter anyway.
 
@OmeidHerat XD
 
@hakre That much is true. I have to replace occurrences of resources as well as ensure strings are utf-8
 
Good morning
 
2:40 PM
Hello :)
 
Holla!
if you can't use DI, which class would go with ?
class A {

	public function __construct() {
		$this->db = new DB();
	}

	public function caller() {
		$obj = new Obj($this->DB);
	}

}


class B {

	public function __construct() {
	}

	public function caller() {
		$obj = new Obj(new DB());
	}

}
 
@OmeidHerat You can always use DI...
 
@OmeidHerat If you can't use DI, you can use globals.
 
@ircmaxell I can, but I don't want to restrict it to one instance. I would probably use more then one instance of DB.
@hakre Eih. that is far more evil.
 
hi friends i m in a big trouble need some help
how to secure url redirection from javascript file to a php script
if(login)
{
window.location='abc.php?user=abc&id=1';
}
as i am using here get, but can i redirect from here using post so that my variables are secure or i should do anything else any trick.
 
2:44 PM
@OmeidHerat Eviil? If you can't (do not want to) use DI, why should global be evil?
 
@OmeidHerat What? what does that have to do with DI? In fact, I'd argue DI lets you not have to use multiple instances (it puts control in the caller)...
but with that said, it depends on your business case...
 
hey what is DI
 
@hakre First, It won't let me use more then one instance, second, It creates global state. using global is worst the singleton.
 
@HelpMeToAskQuestions pedantic note: post variables are no more secure than get variables...
 
@OmeidHerat The singleton is a global static variable (at least you're making use of one for it).
 
2:46 PM
so what to do
 
@ircmaxell Yup, that is why I have to go with one of the other two options. But I have to use MySQL and SQlite togather.
 
how to secure then
 
@OmeidHerat HUH? what are you using SQLite for?
 
@ircmaxell User's databases. then they will download it to use with the client application.
 
So as you're already making use of global variables, how does that go together with your statement about Singletons?
 
2:49 PM
@hakre I am not using globals. But rather got a coupling issue, Singleton is just a global Object and I don't want to think about it.
 
So what about new, isn't it global as well?
 
@hakre He's not using a singleton in that code...
 
@hakre Nope. is a simple instantation.
And a few lines above, I am talking about coupling problem :P
 
@ircmaxell not code but statement about Singleton. So if you look into the code, you're looking in the wrong place.
 
what are you talking about?
 
2:54 PM
@ircmaxell What are you talking about?
I never stated that that code-example does contain a Singleton
 
where do you see him talking about singletons?
 
So just wondering why you make it look like that I did?
> First, It won't let me use more then one instance, second, It creates global state. using global is worst the singleton.
 
I could argue that, but the point he was making was to refute your suggestion of using a global, not saying he would use that
 
And that is; I will never use global given that it's worst then my nightmare.
 
For which I came to the point why new wouldn't be global (and that one is part of the code-example).
 
3:01 PM
@hakre new is not global...
I need to get 38 more upvotes to get a Populist gold badge against John Skeet (not that it will happen, but I can dream)
 
Hi i need a bit of advice, i have an area on my site where people can upload pdfs, the directory they upload to is 777, and when they upload it creates a directory for their files, what permissions should i have everything set to
 
@StephenWolfe Depends on which permissions you need.
 
22
A: Is micro-optimization worth the time?

ircmaxellWell, for a trivially small array, $array === (array) $array is significantly faster than is_array($array). On the order of over 7 times faster. But each call is only on the order of 1.0 x 10 ^ -6 seconds (0.000001 seconds). So unless you're calling it literally thousands of times, it's not go...

 
ps. it seem i can only get the upload to work if the folder is set to 777
 
@StephenWolfe What?! 777. NO!
 
3:04 PM
what i dont get is if i take the permissions right down it dosnt work
 
@StephenWolfe what is your server user ?
 
I havent set up any users
i was looking into this,
 
@ircmaxell Is that answer correct?
I.e. are you sure that (array) $x will not trigger a copy?
Cause that would have been my first thought too ;)
 
@NikiC yes, try it...
 
@StephenWolfe First, I will never put user files in a public directory.
 
3:06 PM
It doesn't, because isRef is 0... So it does a copy-on-write assignment
 
@OmeidHerat how should i do it, i cant even get my website to work if i move the includes folder up.
 
@StephenWolfe Put them some where out of public folder and feed them through a script back to the users.
 
The only user acocunt on my server is root, i think.
 
@ircmaxell ah, right
 
@StephenWolfe That will not be the case for sure.
 
3:08 PM
@StephenWolfe Then you have bigger problems. and put your server down. right now.
 
Hi all ^_^
 
Hi @Neal
 
@OmeidHerat well i was told each domain creates a user on the server....
 
@NikiC that's of course assuming that $x is an array. If it's not, yes it will copy it...
 
^_^
anyone try this out? xritephoto.com/…
 
3:09 PM
but when i look at the users on the server it just says root
 
Im suprised i know my colors so well
 
Does anyone know of any decent libraries that can deal with selective string manipulation; by which I mean, selectively altering (running string functions on for example) a string based on offsets?
I'm rolling my own right now, but I don't wanna re-invent here
 
@Bracketworks: substr_replace
 
@hakre yeop, that's what I'm using right now (sorta), lemme elaborate
Something preferably preg_* compatible; so for instance:
aaabbbaaa if I were to match b+ as the "preserved" part of the string, and want to run strtoupper on the rest, I would be left with AAAbbbAAA
naive example, but you get the picture
 
locate the range you want to preserve, re-index parts as numerical offsets in form of an array
apply the transofrmation onto the strings in the array that match the offset(s).
join the array to string then
 
3:15 PM
@hakre Yea, that's what I'm doing, but it's tricky as the offsets can change when the string changes. Another example:
 
preg_match_all with PREG_OFFSET_CAPTURE
 
don't capture the offset in the array, capture the strings.
you can then change each part as much as you want
Example: "aaabbbccc" => array("aaa", "bbb", "ccc") => ref the parts that need manupulation: $man = array(&$str[0], &str[2]); then apply the string function as an iterator over that structure, then join the orignal array.
 
Yea; lemme review what I'm doing and I'll post up again if needed; the problem is I'm essentially running preg_quote on a string with parts that will be replaced with valid regex expressions
I don't wanna quote the valid parts
so I have some()string{@replace1}some()string{@replace2} with replace1 and 2 becoming [a-z]+ and [0-9]+ respectively. I'm trying to end up with some\(\)string[a-z]+some\(\)string[0-9]+
I'll keep fooling with it; just didn't know if someone knew off hand of an existing set of functions to deal with this so I can move on to bigger and better :P The real problem is that if the identifier {@key} contains preg-quotable characters, it'll goof the string and it won't get replaced correctly
 
Hi All, Omeid, if you are still here I have some ideas on your DI for a database.
 
@Bracketworks Probably preg_match_all with named patterns.
preg_match_all can capture offsets
 
3:23 PM
@hakre Yeop, that's essentially what I'm trying to do now, capturing the offset and length of a non-quote segment, and running preg_quote on sections of the string not within those offsets;
If only it were as easy as quote => replace, but if the quoting goofs a replacement target, it doesn't get replaced :(
 
@OmeidHerat The key thing is control in your container to be able to decouple your call to new. A container should be able to create and retrieve shared objects (almost like an evil singleton) as well as generate all of the objects you need for your system. This decouples your new calls allowing you to stub the container for easy testing. So, creating many DB's is easy with that sort of container.
 
@Paul Agree with that, But still I am not sure if that initial instationation creates any kind of constructor flaw or that is acceptable ?
Avoiding the initial construction will force me to check the if the shared DB parameter is instantated or should be instintated which is not necessarily a bad thing aside that it makes it unclear that where the objects coming from.
 
@OmeidHerat I don't see any difference in the way it would be called vs a singleton. Actually I think where it comes from will be better. By injecting it you are at the higher level where you know more about what you are trying to do. However the class you inject it into knows it has a DB and treats it like a DB (and that is all it should be worried about rather than the specifics of which DB it is).
 
Will it would have been much nicer if I could Inject the DB but that is not the case here.
I need a shared DB and at the same time I might create more instance of that.
Ah, problem sovled. I will inject a shared one and create other when required. But have to make sure to document that clearly.
@Paul That way I wouldn't have a constractor flaw and nor really have to use one and only that one.
 
3:39 PM
Yes, that should work nicely I think.
 
@ircmaxell You are evil
 
@NikiC why?
 
@ircmaxell Because of you I'm using () for regex too now. Any I really liked ~ :(
 
I liked # myself, but now I like (), blame @edorian (I think it was him)
 
@ircmaxell Okay, change of target: @edorian You are evil!
 
3:43 PM
:-P
 
I assume that @edorian was influenced by someone else .... :)
 
@hakre We'll find out ;)
 
@OmeidHerat Just thinking back to that, reminded me of this answer. I'm thinking you are leaning towards my initial solution in that answer, but I changed recently and have been enjoying the benefits of full DI. stackoverflow.com/questions/7676515/…
 
@Paul That is a nice explanation, but I am using type hinting so I really don't need to check if it's the instance of the right object, but I got the over all Idea. Thanks.
 
3:55 PM
test
 
1,2,3 test ;)
 
@OmeidHerat No worries, good luck. Goodnight all.
 
thanks
 
Good night Paul
 
Good luck Paul
 
3:57 PM
@Paul Good night, mate. (and nice! I finally see someone from downunder around.)
 
Yeah, SA too, definitely late enough here.
 
Woh! nice.
 
@ircmaxell @NikiC I haven't done much on the SPL lately. Shame on me.
 
@Paul yeah 2:29 and I thought it's around 12.
 
See you around the place.
 
3:59 PM
Cya!
 
@LeviMorrison I'll work on DLL later. I haven't yet decided on naming the get push pop peek whatever functions
 

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