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10:02 PM
This is the correct answer.
 
@rdlowrey I'm not a fan of returning a reference but still, following the RFC I would assume that if you want to return a reference you'll have to yield by reference as well?
 
user895378
@nikita2206 Yes, that's correct. It seems like the most sensible approach as that mechanism is already in place for yields.
 
user895378
People and their crazy reference returns grumble grumble ...
 
user895378
@nikita2206 Oh wait, disregard what I said.
 
user895378
IIRC it's literally not possible to return by-ref from a generator because of the existing & semantics with yields.
 
user895378
10:09 PM
I should update the RFC with notes about that.
 
Ah okay then, because otherwise that would be a bc break for those who already used yield byref 3v4l.org/RXkuV
 
10:21 PM
@beberlei i.stack.imgur.com/2Wxb6.png See the fail?
 
/ me wishes to embed twits on RFCs
 
@bwoebi Someone voted no to Exceptions in the Engine? =P
 
@AllenJB no, in 12 minutes. The time…
 
@bwoebi Do you have a correct local time?
 
@kelunik When UTC +1 is correct, yes.
Also… It started counting down at in 1 hour
 
10:29 PM
@bwoebi not correct would be timezone set to UTC + 1 but it's actually UTC + 1,325.
 
??
 
@bwoebi That was a extreme example, but we have that problem at amp-chat if people's clocks are +- some seconds.
But yes, I can reproduce it. ^^
 
user1804599
PHP 7 should definitely have a comefrom statement.
 
10:49 PM
@райтфолд which does what?
 
11:01 PM
Which timezone is used for wiki.php.net votes?
 
@kelunik the tz of author usually
 
@LeviMorrison I'm asking because rfc-watch uses <img src="/lib/images/success.png" title="2015/03/01 22:35"> do get the time.
 
11:23 PM
Morning Folks
 
@SebastianBergmann You guys need to get a move on for your RFC, also: "I don't think Throwable should be implementable by userland classes." why not? (not that I'm disagreeing.....it just needs to be justified.)
 
@Danack isn't today the last day to put things on discussion phase?
 
Theoretically.
> "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams
5
 
Considering we need to have 14 days for discussion.
 
user895378
@marcio I assume so. I've spent all afternoon on an RFC today just in case :)
 
11:31 PM
"And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules."
 
yea hope we don't follow the deadline then, because I want yield * and I don't like the BaseException thingy, though I could live with it.
 
Rushing to get non-trivial things in at the last minute is not a good idea. The base exception thing is not complicated - and can be done without affecting much else.
 
I don't think that's trivial. The exception hierarchy is already borked, we shouldn't make it even worse. Picking the right Exception hierarchy is harder than it sounds.
 
It's not totally obvious what the right choice is, but any of the options has almost no BC issues, and only affects 3 classes in PHP, two of which are brand new. Even if it was only decided one month before release, it wouldn't be an issue in allowing people to use PHP 7.
@bwoebi have you committed a certain commit yet?
 
user895378
I think that happened yesterday didn't it?
 
11:44 PM
@Danack I agree with what you said except for: "Even if it was only decided one month before release", hope this won't happen to any decision.
 
And no reversions yet?
Le sigh @bwoebi "Remove useless date warning" - you've never heard the phrase "But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory."?
 
@Danack that commit message is from pre-vote.
I didn't change it when pushing.
I only saw that after push…
and as we don't have force push ;-)
 
ah well.
@marcio I would hope so as well. But it would be better to get the design of the hierarchy right for release is more important imo than getting it done soon.
 
@rdlowrey no, Friday evening.
 
user895378
@bwoebi it all runs together. I must've just been so excited about the removal I lost track of time.
 
11:48 PM
hehe
 
so if a rebase with master is done now we no longer get that date warning? Oh happy day... \o/
@Danack ok +1, still hope it won't happen though.
 
@rdlowrey You missed the in operator :(
 
user895378
@kelunik I just copy/pasted what was already there. Updating ...
 
And array -> string is already in voting. ;-)
 
@rdlowrey remove the lexer thing, it's on voting
 

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