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9:00 PM
@reikyoushin No idea, my boss handles all the AWS stuff normally. I only get involved to look at SQS and S3 stuff. Rarely actually make an instance.
 
@Simon_eQ if you mean in context of php, then this might clear some of it up.
 
I'm going to guess that the silex site is just a misconfiguration - that maybe sensio labs have made a site for this Flike gizmo, but messed up on the deployment :)
 
@Simon_eQ if you mean as JS lib, then it is a collection of tools for making twitter-like GUI: getbootstrap.com/2.3.2
 
@ircmaxell Really nice +1
 
9:03 PM
@HamZa cool, i know regex now. you just put lotsa backslashes like \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ and insert random characters in between.
 
@reikyoushin sure :D
 
@reikyoushin Just try and draw shapes/patterns when you do it. Don't forget that part.
 
lol
 
/<(-_-)>/gi
 
@Fabien unknown modifier g :P
 
9:09 PM
@ircmaxell: broken :P
 
Anonymous
@tereško Reading half way through your answer, it made sense to think of it like a front controller. It makes sense, if it is something that gets called on every request, and acts like an engine-starter for the whole shebang. So, in sf2 is the bootstrap the front-controller?
 
lol y u steal my bounty :p
 
Well, at least I can bitch about that command line arg parser answer just as much as the previous one, tsssk
 
whats the best way to track who this ip is from? 37.187.56.98 it only says its from ovh.. but i dont have any other info..
 
@reikyoushin is there any other info lol ?
 
9:11 PM
user agent says PhantomJS (Developer Tool) from France
 
@Simon_eQ No, the bootstrap is the thing that allows the rest of the program, including the frontcontroller, to work. It sets up the environment, pulls in the configuration information, etc.
 
@HamZa that's all i have. LOL
 
@Charles are you talking about the boot process of an OS ?
@reikyoushin Well do you expect any other info than that ?
 
Anonymous
@Charles I am just tying to find it, in sf2. So, is it the appKernel.php
 
Anonymous
Since, it is responsible for loading up all the bundles
 
9:14 PM
@HamZa No, but the term means the same thing in both contexts. For the computer, the bootstrap is a small bit of executable code that actually begins the boot process.
 
@Wrikken ?
 
@Charles ok, that makes sense
 
@Charles in that case - which part is "the application" ?
 
@tereško Don't get philosophical on me!
 
@HamZa at least get a domain or something..
 
9:15 PM
@Charles i mean , you are saying that front-controller is not part of boostrap stage
 
@Wrikken your comment? I'd argue that foo\"bar is not a valid bare argument. But if it was, there's a trivial solution
 
Well, good point about efficiency, however bare\"arg ? (in other words, I do not agree with [a-zA-Z0-9.-]+. Even if we account for more chars, my shell is fully utf-8 capable (whether that's a good choice to use is debatable of course, but it's possible). If you drop that from the end & add @HamZa's |\S+ on the end... we may have a better one. — Wrikken 8 mins ago
@Wrikken: is bare\"arg valid? I would argue that should be a syntax error... But if you want to take shell rules, I would do [^\s"']\S* rather than just \S+... That way it must start with a non-white-space-or-quote character, and then can have whatever. But the grammar really should be defined better than that... — ircmaxell 1 min ago
 
@ircmaxell: as long as it works in my bash shell... And we're talking 'random user input;
 
@tereško Well, I don't use bootstrap code that way. It happens that a lot of my code also runs other under controllers. For example, we have a ncurses-based UI for a subset of functionality. It shares the same bootstrap code, business objects and data access layer as the rest of the application, but doesn't use any of the same controller bits.
 
9:17 PM
@Wrikken we need the OP to clarify the grammar...
 
@Charles front-controller is no part of mvc
 
@ircmaxell: well, yes, environment matters a bit yes.
 
@tereško While this is true, I don't really personally classify request routing as bootstrap code.
 
@Charles which is also the code that is usually in front controllers
 
@tereško 'zactly, thus my opinion that front controllers are a distinct thing from the bootstrap bits. Wait, what are we worried about again?
 
9:19 PM
@Wrikken edited in a bit about that
 
@Charles oh .. you said that you "don't classify" it as bootstrap
well .. i do
 
@tereško To each his own. /shrug
 
because it is essential part of wiring all the "moving parts" for the application together, before it is executed
Also , having magical FrontController and/or Bootstrap classes in PHP is pointless. It's not Java.
 
Anonymous
So, what is the point of downloading a bootstrap, if all frameworks have their own implementations of bootstraping. In case, of sf2 ->FrontController
 
> boost raping
I saw that.
 
9:23 PM
I also saw that.
 
@Simon_eQ "downloading a bootstrap"?
 
Anonymous
@Charles getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/
 
@tereško Yeah, but ... eh, if all you're doing is frontcontroller, I suppose you're right, but my code sucks.
@Simon_eQ Oh
Twitter Bootstrap != application bootstrapping
it's a set of CSS and Javascript.
 
Anonymous
@LeviMorrison You were obviously, not here when I said "styleshit"
 
@Simon_eQ , here is a free hint: before you click on every fucking link, read the surrounding sentence
 
Anonymous
9:25 PM
@tereško ok, calm down man. Maybe, you need your bootstraping fixed.
 
@ircmaxell Big +1 from me, the only things from the list I really want are bitwise OR and concat but I have wanted both of those on a number of occasions. Closures are conspicuously missing though (obviously use() support would be a no-no since that's no longer constant, and similarly they'd have to be declared static but I have still wanted them withing the bounds of those limitations on a couple of occasions.
Evening @all
 
I did think it was an interesting choice for twitter to call it bootstrap.
 
@reikyoushin What makes you think it has a domain ?
 
9:27 PM
@DaveRandom yeah, understandable
actually, maybe I can do that...
 
Guys, have anyone of you restarted php-fpm gracefully ever?
 
I would be extremely happy if you could. But even without that I fully support what you have so far
 
@HamZa If only it has, i wanna know. btw, what is a legit use of phantom js? if not for scraping a site/used as a bot
 
Well you need to know some hacking/investigation -fu
Look for example at "reverse ip lookup" or "reverse dns lookup"
 
@reikyoushin Javascript tests
 
9:32 PM
Holy Security Vulnerability Batman! $command = "something"; rm -Rf * :-P — ircmaxell 32 mins ago
lol
 
@ircmaxell would magic constants be supported by the concat? Use case being static class maps in autoloaders
 
PhantomJS can generate a HAR file too, very useful for site optimization.
 
@HamZa ive already contacted digitalocean for investigation WHY there is one ip that continuously tries to GET on my page 2-3 times day.. (flagged as bad bot on incapsula)
 
@reikyoushin well I think that's not special at all. Bots are poking every second at servers looking for easy targets
 
9:33 PM
@reikyoushin What's the IP?
 
imma open my incapsula logs, just a sec
 
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Q: Restarting php-fpm gracefully

zerkmsAccording to the documentation php-fpm should accept SIGUSR2 signal and reload workers gracefully. What I see doesn't entirely matches to the description. Initial state: www-data 29526 1 0 09:26 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php5-cgi www-data 29528 29526 0 09:26 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ph...

need help
 
@DaveRandom 192.241.135.122 (from digitalocean)
 
@reikyoushin map.honeycloud.net
 
9:37 PM
Hmm, internet domain IP address with no PTR, sounds dodgy, definitely not a legit crawler
 
i'm wondering, how come PHP function chars_count() can perform so fast? if we do it using loop it takes seconds, but by using chars_count() it take just a few millisecond. What makes chars_count() so fast? what language was used to develope chars_count()?
 
@DaveRandom i reported it in DO already.. no reply yet though.
 
@hakre did you write that function ? // Topic: parsing command arguments in PHP
@NokImchen The power of C
 
@HamZa yes I did wrote that. I will also show some more tests where it differs from the regexes, just compiling an eval.in link
 
@hakre is it possible to use mb_ string functions to make it support utf8 ?
 
9:39 PM
@HamZa what does this do?
 
@HamZa pass in an array of characters instead of a string.
 
@HamZa C or C# or C++? which one is best for such works like file data reading and analyzing? or is there any other language faster than C or C# or C++?
 
utf8 support is possible with preg_split then
you don't need mb_string for it.
 
@reikyoushin it's a map with honeypots set around the world. You will see that there is actually so much happening each second sometimes
@NokImchen chars_count() is a native PHP function, which means it's built in C
@hakre ah ok, makes sense. I was just wondering why you didn't add that class to your answer. +1 anyways
 
@reikyoushin I got no hits from it in any of my logs in the last month. I'd guess it's someone writing a poorly designed crawler
 
9:42 PM
@HamZa it's too much code for an answer :)
here are some tests: eval.in/private/120da2a46daf7e
 
i hate PHP cos its the son of C :|
i think i seriously need to learn C. But i'm very slow in learning. Is C like VB.NET/VB6 where we can do drag and drop?
 
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A: Should I add an online demo link?

LinuxiosWhenever you feel that it would help increase the usefulness of your answer, feel free to add links to services like JSFiddle, Ideone, and others. But... Always, always include the code (and optionally output, if important) in your post.

 
for example it is possible to escape space as well and the last character as escape character is verbatim.
 
@NokImchen C = closer to JS than VB
 
@NokImchen drag and drop ? you thing it's jQuery :-)
 
9:44 PM
@reikyoushin JS is very easy :|
 
@HamZa well, it's a simple string parser with a state for escape and another one for the quoting.
 
@NokImchen don't think that when you master the stuff at w3schools that JS is easy :)
 
@HamZa i dont knw C at all. I dont even know a about about it. But u knw, if there is drag drop things like in VB.NET we can drag drop buttons,timer,textbox,etc its fun to learn..
 
@NokImchen that's not programming, that's for childs play
 
@HamZa ehehehe, please dont say that. Cos if u say that den i'll be a child according to u :(
 
9:48 PM
@hakre Nice. I think that the last 3 answers covers way more than that the OP is expecting
 
@HamZa his question got room-elevened I'd say :)
4
 
haha indeed :D
 
@zerkms lulz
 
is there any native PHP function like chars_count() which return not only the count but also all the position in the string?
 
@NokImchen: nope, but with the use of preg_split('//',$string); & some sprinkling of array_unique & array_keys you can get there pretty fast.
 
Can someone tell then where zlog() writes to?
 
@hakre lol
 
10:06 PM
@NokImchen I think there is
 
i used this: $str = 'Hello World';
$letter='o';
$letterPositions = array_keys(array_intersect(str_split($str),array($letter)));
var_dump($letterPositions);
source http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8799799/how-to-find-a-array-of-occurence-of-a-character-in-a-string
 
$str = "Hello World";

$chars = str_split($str);
$chars = array_filter($chars);
$chars = array_count_values($chars);
print_r($chars);
this works too
 
@NokImchen:, I thought you need it of all characters. Nevermind then ;)
 
10:08 PM
@Wrikken yes i need all
 
@HamZa Of course you would have a regex solution :)
 
this is how i'm using right now:
$bytes=100;
for($i = 0; $i <= $bytes; $i++)$contents.=chr(rand(0,256));

$charsCount=count_chars($contents,1);
foreach($charsCount as $key=>$val){$charsPos[]=array_keys(array_intersect(str_split($contents),array(chr($key))));}

var_dump($charsPos);
 
@NokImchen pretty certain that preg_match() with PREG_OFFSET_CAPTURE would be more efficient than that, especially if you're doing it more than once
 
@Orangepill lol
1 min ago, by HamZa
https://eval.in/43120
 
^^ that
 
10:10 PM
but preg_match does not group. you might want to do that with a callback
 
i dont knw what to use :( yes i'm using it many many time. I want fastest solution, thats iy i was seeking for a native function...
 
as the callback variant does not support offsets, there you need some substitution for it.
 
@NokImchen build a php extension :p
 
if($res = $con->prepare($query)) {

call_user_func_array(array($res,'bind_param'),$bind);

if($res->execute()) {

$res -> bind_result($iStopID,$iDate,$iTime,$iOd,$iDo,$iType);

while ($res -> fetch()) {

$smt['stopID']=$iStopID;

}

print_r($smt['stopID']);


} else error($con->error);

$res -> close();

} else error($con->error);

Hey guys. I have that weird problem. Array inside while loop (in my case $smt), does not want to fill up with all the 30 values. It contains only the latest value. I checked the loop and it is okay. It does 30 repeats, and num_rows also returns 30. It happens onl
 
10:10 PM
@HamZa EXACTLY! u PHP gurus should build one !!!
 
@BikerJohn le wild code drops by ...
@NokImchen You want it, so you should build it.
 
Anonymous
@BikerJohn codes should be hmm....
 
@HamZa :)
 
Anonymous
can't find the word
 
@hakre Yeh but you can do that with one post-processing loop. array_keys(array_intersect(str_split())) is O(scary)
 
10:11 PM
@hakre nice, I remember that
 
@daveRandom I can see that. I will see if I can make that supported...
 
nevermind... mine is just a convoluted way to do char_count
 
@Jeremy it's actually from php-fpm sources
:-S
 
@HamZa but u love C, while i love Zzz :P
 
$chars = preg_split('//',$chars,-1, PREG_SPLIT_NO_EMPTY);
$result = array();
foreach(array_unique($chars) as $char){
   $result[$char]= array_keys($result,$char);
}
 
10:13 PM
@NokImchen E_***** <- some race
@Wrikken ctrl+k to format
 
@HamZa: thanks
 
@HamZa whats that? :/ Dont let me google every minute :(
 
@NokImchen lol
 
@ircmaxell Presumably magic constants are resolved at compile time? I guess that's the distinction that matters in this context (or no?). I'm at the start of my first proper expedition into how the zend engine really works so I'm hungry for whatever info you can be bothered typing out on the subject.
 
Jul 30 at 8:31, by Jimbo
E_INDIAN
@Wrikken np
 
10:15 PM
Looks like it is compile time. This is parse time... So a cursory glance doesn't appear to be possible.
Well, easy...
 
@HamZa E for Indian? :/ what is that _ ? :/ Always leaving something obscured :|
 
Maybe not. I need to look on a screen other than my cell phone...
 
@NokImchen you have never got a PHP error o_O ?
 
@ircmaxell Yeh that's never going to work out well :-P
 
@HamZa i got many! but whats the relation between E_ and a PHP error? my mind is running too slow! May be i need sleep!
 
@DaveRandom golden
 
@DaveRandom i had to google RTFM just to find the F word cos i didnt find "RTFM" abbrev in the manual :D
 
"friendly" of course ;-)
 
@DaveRandom i think, "RTFM" should be printed on the cover page in bold in every manual :P
 
E_TOO_LATE_TOO_YOUNG_TOO_DIE
 
10:25 PM
@DaveRandom hahaha
 
E_DONTPANIC
That's a manual cover...
 
lol E_USER_DEPRECATED
 
@HamZa I can think of a few users I'd like to deprecate...
 
I have good use for those E_USER_DEPRECATED's....
Perfectly describes the people I give them to indeed.
 
@DaveRandom Heh, so is your ignore list small ?
 
10:34 PM
Latest questions in are just depressingly simple.
 
@LeviMorrison You missed the crap of sunday // cc @PeeHaa
 
user895378
@Danack Mostly I'm having no problems with your example repo for this bug. Then every now and then it will hang forever after the classes are loaded. No idea why though.
 
@HamZa printf("%d", sizeof(ignore_list) / sizeof(user)); // 12
 
@DaveRandom lol I found the issue
why it doesn't accept -SIGUSR2
 
@zerkms Does it begin with U and end with buntu?
 
10:47 PM
@DaveRandom nope. It begins with "G"
and ends with "lasses"
it's NOT php5-fpm
but php5-cgi
/usr/bin/php5-cgi
facepalm.jpg
 
@zerkms I like lasses.
 
@zerkms lolfail on everyone's part
 
oh, didn't know such a word exists
 
It's a good Yorkshire word, lasses
 
> Lass: noun; A girl or young woman: "he married a lass from Yorkshire".
 
10:49 PM
I'm sure @PaulDixon will tell you about them
hey @rdlowrey I managed to make PECL HTTP slightly more useful today by adding a 3rd arg to http_negotiate_content_type() so you could pass in a userland value for the Accept: header. I just have to apply that logic to my own codez now, while avoiding the temptation to steal a bunch of code from PECL HTTP. Currently my own code still doesn't even compile, but I'm still working my way through c.learncodethehardway.org/book
 
user895378
@DaveRandom Oh, that looks like a nice resource for my C endeavors. Thanks for sharing.
 
Well, the basic skeleton of the extension compiles and works, but not when I try and make it do something useful
 
'a broad' also is the term referring to a piece of meat with a hole in it.
 
@rdlowrey Well, that's weird. I'll try turning some modules on/off, to see if that affects it.
 
user895378
@Danack Yeah, try playing with passing different constants when you start the worker like the comment I just added on your issue.
 
10:57 PM
@rdlowrey Yeh it's really nice I have found, it's brutally honest and cuts through a lot of the bullshit but you do have to really pay attention and avoid the temptation to think "yeh I know this already" and skip over it. I know there were a couple of chapters where I thought that, and then a couple of chapters later realised I'd missed something important. The other thing is it's possible to work through it pretty quickly because it's nice and concise.
 
user895378
I'm so glad I didn't study compsci in school. If I had to start with things like Java and C I would've changed majors immediately and never come back to programming. It would've taken all the fun out of the code.
 
@rdlowrey Hmm, thanks for the link.
 
@rdlowrey inorite. I've never really had to deal with pointers before and it's melting my brain a bit, especially pointers-to-pointers
 
user895378
@DaveRandom ^^ That. Right there with you.
 
> The C programming language's only failing is giving you access to what is really there, and telling you the cold hard raw truth. C gives you the red pill. C pulls the curtain back to show you the wizard. C is truth. - source
I really couldn't have put it better myself
 
11:03 PM
@DaveRandom pointers are rather essential to know about, even if your language doesn't give them to you freely it's good to know what makes your language tick. That said, we only did pointers in pseudocode during an early algorithms/datasctructures class
 
@rdlowrey FYI I've also bought amazon.com/dp/0672326663 although I've not really read enough of it to offer a real opinion yet
@Jasper While I'm sure that's true, I still basically Have No Idea What I'm Doing so I can't really comment and I'm not about to pretend I know more than I do
 
@rdlowrey PTHREADS_INHERIT_INCLUDES + including the autoloader again gives "PHP Fatal error: Base lambda function for closure not found in pthreadTest.php on line 54"
 
@rdlowrey We did java (the first course of the program) but I'd say it's not all that bad. The language is little more than a tool for the task at hand. If you study computer sciences, it's important to know that it's merely a tool and all imperative languages are more or less the same anyway)
 
I think I may need to be far more awake for this.
 
@rdlowrey well .. i had to start with Pascal. And, IMHO, it has had only positive influences on my coding style.
 
Anonymous
Sounds legit. I was there.
 
user895378
There are benefits to the rigor of academic study, of course. I'm just 100% certain that 17-year-old me would've said, "fuck this," had I been asked to pay attention to the idiosyncracies of C in a classroom setting instead of as a pursuit spurred on by my own interest.
 
@Jasper I love Java as a language, and the compiler is awesome because it actively bollocks you for doing stuff badly, even if it's still technically compilable. The JVM is an awful, awful thing and if I had to work with it on a daily basis I'm sure I would have killed many people by now, but as a language I have a (possibly slightly misplaced) affection for it
@rdlowrey I was baked from around 16.5 - 23 so I'm absolutely certain I would have got nowhere
BC is an awesome place though, if I'd been able to extend my visa I'd probably still be baked now
 
@DaveRandom Those things, together with the fact that you can get a graphical application out with the standard libraries rather easily make it a good learning language ni my opinion. We've switched to C# though
(that was a move largely inspired by (a) money and (b) the new game design oriented version of CS they introduced)
 
@Jasper Until quite recently I didn't like C# at all. Now I really like it, but it suffers from the same problem as Java, although s/jvm/.net/
Also the partial keyword should die
 
11:18 PM
Can't really comment on C# as a language. I've learned just enough of it to do assignments in it when I have to, but not much more than that. I do dislike its Windows-centric-ness, though.
 
@Jasper int foo = 1; <-- I just did an assignment for you
 
lol
 
tbh I don't have a huge problem with Windows-centric for the right application. In the real world, for desktop applications, the world still runs on Windows and it will for the foreseeable future.
 
Windows Wahooo!
 
If you're ever concerned with over-implementing design patterns, just remember the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean.
 
11:24 PM
@Bracketworks I always liked the FactoryFactory
 
@DaveRandom The thing about the real world is all true, and I have no problem working with it in practice since I do almost exclusively run Windows as my main OS (so excluding VMs, some server administration I do and VPS work) but still, I do not think the choice of a language should limit the OSes you can work with
 
^^ Agreed
 
(A OS independent library for things like making interfaces and windows is good too, but not as essential in my opinion)
 
Are we allowed to flag people for linking to the Spring documentation, even if done in jest?
 
@Jasper That's a little too much to ask, because it limits the scope for how OSes can design their interfaces
I want a UI where all windows are ovals
 
11:26 PM
@Danack If you don't flag me, I'll flag myself.
 
@DaveRandom Just looked up the partial keyword and that does indeed look quite horrible. It also seems quite strange how they designed that: "Let's take this feature some other languages have because of how they were designed, but is never used because it makes for a mess and implement it in our language (so people can make a mess here too)"
 
@Jasper the Mono project is pretty mature now; it brings C# and essentially .NET to the cross-platform.
 
An interesting read: Messaging as a programming model
 
@DaveRandom partial is good with code generation; that is all I will say on the matter.
 
@Bracketworks I know. I mean, I've never worked with it myself, but it did come up a number of times when we switched to C# at my university. That said, it's still band-aid and duct tape, not the real thing.
 
11:30 PM
@Jasper I'd hardly call it a band-aid. It's a fully fledged development framework and associated languages.
It doesn't "patch" .NET; it re-implements it platform agnostically.
 
@DaveRandom I didn't mean as part of the language, but the availability of a library which does those things. Much like wxWidgets, for example.
 
@ircmaxell thumbs up
 
@ircmaxell Awesome. const $purple = 1 << 293 FTW.
 
@DaveRandom wat?
 
11:33 PM
@Bracketworks ?? I can't see how it helps at all? Just because you are generating code doesn't mean you need to split things up like that...
@Danack spring documentation
 
groan
 
If you have to explain it then it loses something. And if it didn't have much in the first place then...
 
@DaveRandom A code generator creates a class. You don't want to heighten the inheritance tree, so it's best to modify it in place. You regenerate. Herp derp changes lost. If the class is partial, since you own the assembly, you just implement your desired behavior and regenerate whenever whatever it's regenerating from changes.
Don't get me wrong, I see the problems with it; but its an awkward screwdriver for an awkward but specific problem.
 
@Jasper I guess. But you can never create something like that that is truly platform independent because someone might decide to create some craxy UI that all like wtf up in your face
 
@DaveRandom "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process."
12
 
11:38 PM
@Bracketworks Sounds like it's solving a problem that could be solved equally well by managing source control properly
@Danack lol
 
@DaveRandom Agreed; again, problems evident. However, it does solve a problem, whether or not there are other, likely better, solutions. If you've tinkered with Entity Framework for any more than a short while, you begin to see the value in it.
 
@Bracketworks I'm sure it has it's use cases within the realm of .net, which (from my observations) does an awful lot of solving the wrong problem
 
@DaveRandom True fact (from my unfortunate exposure)
 
@DaveRandom don't really know what you mean with that, but the idea is that you'll have a library that implements a subset of what you through native API calls. It'll be completely platform independent, even if can't do everything that's possible on a platform. It also doesn't aim to make everything look exactly the same
 
Right, I'm going to bail before this gets out of hand and I start making bad jokes that nobody understands
No, wait...
 
11:41 PM
An interesting example is how wxWidgets for Mac takes your "help" menu item out of the place you put it and into the main menu (if it was labeled as a help menu item), because the Mac OS design guide says it belongs there
It's not uniformity you're after, it's optimal usability on different platforms
 
@DaveRandom Adios amigo.
 
@Jasper ahh OK that makes more sense, it's more abstract than I was thinking (I've not work with x-platform GUI APIs much)
Right, really going now
nite @all
 
good night
 
11:56 PM
@Danack I dig it. I assumed from the title it was Ruby related, but I was thankfully wrong.
He goes on to mention better maintainability than the typical layered approach, but I could see combining the two working very well; an n-tier pipeline.
 
@Danack not sure what to make of it. I've done very similar things with actual unix pipes. it reminds me a bit of noflo, and the idea that it is a "2-dimensional unix pipe".
 
Just looked up noflo; also interesting.
 
well, I don't mean noflo specifically, but FBP in general.
 
Right. Still looked it up ;-P
 

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