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12:00 AM
@bwoebi I'm super excited at how well my webhook server is running. I plan on loading more tasks onto it soon and I'm planning on building a lot more software on top of Amp
@rtheunissen I have gotten extremely lucky with my current employer. Very grateful.
Amp actually spoiled me a little. In our FE apps at work we have a lot of Promise callback resolution
Then I get home the first day when I realized I could yield Promises and I cried tears of joy
 
@cspray FE means?
 
Front End
 
@cspray based on nodejs or what?
 
@bwoebi while it is on my mind I'm going to be speaking to my manager about letting you do a code review of the Aerys app if you were still interested?
@bwoebi It is an Ember app
 
@cspray yes
 
12:03 AM
 
@cspray so, yeah, nodejs…
 
@bwoebi Great. I'm pretty sure he'll be fine with it and I'm eager to have somebody take a look at it who has so much experience in this context
@bwoebi Eh, there are some differences. But, yea, basically
 
@cspray I do actually not have very much experience in using it … :-D I've just written half of it (the other half is from @rdlowrey's previous iteration) ^^
 
@bwoebi Well, you clearly understand async PHP. Which, I imagine, is a rare thing
Finding somebody I feel is even qualified to review async PHP code is in itself something to take advantage of
 
@cspray I would be surprised if there were even thousands of people understanding it…
But it's not much better in nodejs or C#… people just then() or await promises and are done. They're clueless when things clash there… They do not actually really understand the non-blocking aspects.
 
12:09 AM
@bwoebi how would one learn that though?
Just in practice? Messing around within?
 
The same way you'd learn any programming
 
@rtheunissen practice, reading others code and understanding the code you're building things upon.
 
^ this
 
And that's why I usually stand also a mile away from frameworks; it just isn't understandable what the heck they're doing or the framework is just crappy.
 
I am not typically a fan of frameworks in my own personal code
 
12:12 AM
I'm constantly disappointed in Laravel.
3
 
I seem to be caught in using them for work purposes
But, hey, ya gotta eat
 
Wes
i completely lost focus. can't finish lotr 2
i tried.
 
My personal projects tend to be smaller, task-specific libraries wired together.
 
Wes
12:58 AM
ping
 
1:50 AM
Pretty decent perf regression somewhere in here: github.com/php/php-src/compare/cf3a798...php:b97dc0b
 
 
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3:05 AM
@Jeeves you suck
 
@Linus And you like it.
3
 
Wes
3:36 AM
^ lol
 
morning all
 
Wes
lol, morning
that is surely something peehaa added
 
actually, @Linus seems to be abusing it lately :p
 
Wes
3:51 AM
@Jeeves is @Linus's only friend :B like me in certain periods. do you have talking vending machines there? i used to talk with them. "thanks for your purchase, don't forget your change" and i'm like "thanks for the cigs bro, see you next time"
 
@Wes You're welcome!
 
4:01 AM
lol. dat jeeves.
 
 
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5:18 AM
Lol
 
5:39 AM
I have codeigniter project on my shared hosting but i need to connect by DB connection with Amazon RDS, and i am unable to find the exact reference for it.

How can i achieve it ?
 
I hate it when people tag a question because they printed their 7000 lines of javascript from PHP.
By that logic I should tag all my questions , , , , and .
 
6:01 AM
@All any body know joomla framework
custom menu module ACL
 
6:20 AM
!!should I sleep more or more sleep
 
You should sleep more.
 
Btw happy Friday room 11
 
Happy Friday :)
 
Happy Friday .....:)
 
6:35 AM
Morning.
 
Clearly math is wrong and you're right
 
!!should I kick in the front seat or sit in the back seat?
 
You should sit in the back seat.
 
@Sherif lol
 
@Jeeves ugh, fine
 
7:00 AM
morning
 
7:10 AM
Happy pre-weekend
 
@WyriHaximus don't think I won't just tweet Friday lyrics at you all day, I will do it
@PeeHaa hapreweekend
 
\o/
 
Ekn
gone
 
wamp sorta thing
 
Anonymous
good morrow
 
7:39 AM
@Ekn sounds like the dragon which will devore you…
 
Ekn
it does indeed
 
Hello guys
When I am writing $conn= new mysqli(); the connection is being set up right?
So when I do $conn->prepare($sql) isn't the same connection being set up again?
Since it's in the constructor?
 
Anonymous
No, because when you use $conn->prepare you're not re-creating the object.
 
Okay
Consider this situation
 
Anonymous
Constructors are called when an object is created i.e. new mysqli(). When you then use $conn->prepare, you're using the same object that you just created, but just calling the prepare() method within
 
7:47 AM
I have two classes- 1) connection 2) query class. In the connection class, there is a function "open()" which on call results in returning a "new mysqli()". So we can assign it like- $conn= $connection->open();
 
Morn...-_-
Feel so sluggish for a Friday. I'm getting old.
 
monring Fabor
 
The query class is an extension of the connection class. And it takes the $this->conn() by running the $this->open() method from the parent connection class.
In the constructor.
When I tried using a function from the query class twice, with only doing one "new query", I saw it called the constructor of the parent class twice.
What am I doing wrong?
 
Anonymous
Dump your code in a pastebin :)
 
Shit. I don't have enough data pack.
I know it is confusing.
 
Anonymous
7:53 AM
No, I understand exactly what you're saying but without seeing your code, I can't really tell you where you're going wrong :)
 
I can understand that it's hard without the code
How long are you online?
I will try.
 
Anonymous
I'll be here all day :) But others will be able to help you if not anyway
 
Sure thanks
 
@Ekn It's what every hopes and prays for.
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
7:56 AM
mesmerism: a compelling attraction; fascination.
 
or possibly it's just what it's called when your server get pwned by 1337 h4xx0rs and they delete your larevil site
 
Laragonwrong
 
Ekn
larevil... laragon... I think it's where every hope and prayer perish.
 
@DaveRandom After all the faffing around my parents decided to just accept the broadband only contract -_-. Apparently they don't love saving money. edit for less gross
 
Wanking around your parents...
 
Anonymous
7:58 AM
needs a comma
 
Anonymous
xD
 
That's too easy... :p
 
Oi @Ekn Are you a master of Go yet?
 
@JayIsTooCommon yeh, it goes after "parents"
 
Anonymous
:P
 
7:59 AM
@Fabor how do they feel about shaving money?
 
Sean Connery has a deal going?
 
no, go on, ping me again, I really enjoy it
 
@DaveRandom et al. Good moaning :)
 
Hey
 
@DaveRandom sure, no problem
@DaveRandom ty
@DaveRandom yw
 
Ekn
8:01 AM
@Fabor Nee
 
@Ekn Don't make me teach you a lesson -_-
 
Ekn
:-P
 
@DaveRandom I've a coffee cup, when you put hot coffee in it the text changes from "Jesus Saves" to "Jesus Shaves" and the picture changes from jesus holding a wad of cash to a beardless jesus with clippers
 
mmm coffee... maybe that's what I need.
 
@DaveRandom you made me think of it and you asked for pings, so there you go
 
8:04 AM
@PaulCrovella want
@Fabor with extra crack. Don't forget the crack.
 
lol. Must explain why I keep coming back.
Once you go crack...
 
in other news the tops break off all my ice cubes now and I've no idea why
 
@PaulCrovella Put something that lightly vibrates in the ice cube tray box and you can have nice clear ice-cubes.
 
Hi, I have a question in regards of my website here
well, a project of mine that im working on
the condition is that ive changed the design on a prototype server that i have hosted with homestead/laravel
 
@Fabor is that true? Seems counter intuitive
 
8:08 AM
however, when i changed the content from its original, some parts of the original content are stil lthere
any idea why and how to fix it?
 
@Fabor or boil the water first, but I don't care if they're clear - just not broken in half when I pop them from the tray.. also what the hell would you put in a freezer to do that?
 
Water ice is weird stuff
 
anyone any idea?
^^
 
@DaveRandom Indeed. Let me find the video.
 
@PaulCrovella Ask @PeeHaa's mom
 
8:09 AM
@DaveRandom she does not want to keep that in the freezer
 
@JamesSnowy clear your browser's cache
(would be the very first thing to do)
 
i'll try that
 
years ago me and an old roommate kept a box of tampons in the freezer, in case a guest had an emergency.. none of them ever found it funny
 
Ekn
lol
why the freezer
nevermind
 
8:11 AM
Why did someone go to one of my old answers in so and downvote it? -_-
 
@DaveRandom Can't find one about vibration but it just shakes the bubbles to the top essentially so the bottom goes clear.
Here's an alternative video on clear ice. youtube.com/watch?v=bUHcCHbgX_o
 
@DaveRandom Didn't work, it is still there.
 
@CoderDudeTwodee maybe because it's wrong
 
Ekn
that's a very neat way indeed
 
I cleared cache from 4 weeks, nothing altered, any other ideas?
 
8:13 AM
Happy Friday 11!
 
@Ekn Awesome news about your Mom :)
 
she's doing well I take it?
 
Ekn
thanks, yep
 
yay :)
 
Ekn
:-)
 
8:16 AM
@JamesSnowy Can you elaborate on exactly what "content" is still there? (html from a template, data from the database, CSS/scripts, etc etc)
 
@DaveRandom Sure, it's the navbar.
It's inside a PHP file, extended (app).
But, I can't see the nav code in the HTML inbedded code within the PHP file
 
Tips on staying motivated my last week? -_-
 
It seems to be strang, or I'm just a newbie
strange
 
@JamesSnowy OK and how is that generated by PHP? Is it pulled from some kind of HTML template or done with PHP code that generates the HTML as strings? (note that I know nothing about Laravel)
 
@Fabor If you get any good ones then do share.
 
8:18 AM
@Fabor hard liquor and pot
 
@DaveRandom What do you mean?
 
Oh... You said motivated
 
throw new InvalidatedByNikiCException($myDreamsAndHopes)
 
8:19 AM
lol crack again
 
@JamesSnowy Essentially, where did you write the old HTML, and where have you edited it?
 
\o/ I contributed something and now I am using it in production. I did a (very small) thing :P
 
@Fabor hey, go with what works
 
@DaveRandom Basically, I did a new HTML file with the current CSS that the old code used, and I edited it in the main front page of the project.
I am not sure where the origin of the old HTML lies within, since I basically collaborate with another devloper
developer.
 
OK then you need to ask them ;-)
 
8:21 AM
/s/ask/torture
 
your mom's a developer developer
 
(or just search the repo until you find it, and work backwards from there)
@Fabor the guy is already using laravel, dunno if it needs more
 
heh
 
@DaveRandom Yeah, it would be much easier to talk to him, but he is like half around the world..
 
so are we
 
8:23 AM
^ that
 
I think it'd be a travesty for me not to share, but if you guys get a chance to use or buy "Atrixo Enriched Moisturising Cream - Camomile" do so. Me gusta this stuff smells like heaven.
 
@DaveRandom Yes, I've been thinking about that and did some research, there was this extends('app) and @section('content)
 
Anonymous
To start an all staff email.. FAO all staff, ?
 
do you think it has to do witht hose?
 
@JayIsTooCommon "Sup suckas,"
 
Anonymous
8:24 AM
brilliant
 
@JayIsTooCommon "Dear turd burglars,"
 
Anonymous
Forgot it was Friday..
 
"Minions,"
 
@JayIsTooCommon Rebeccaday you mean
 
@JayIsTooCommon "Bitches,"
 
Anonymous
8:26 AM
I dislike all of you.
 
We mildly dislike you too <3
 
In all seriousness, I generally wouldn't bother putting anything. You can see it's too all staff by virtue of the fact that I sent it to the "All Staff" distribution group.
 
"Mina-san"
 
Same for basically every email I write.
 
Anonymous
Yeah good point
 
8:28 AM
@DaveRandom Don't underestimate people's ability to be stupid.
 
@JamesSnowy ftr I know basically nothing about Laravel or any of its eco-system
 
Anonymous
tbf, it's 900 people
 
People say I am not very communicative at work, I prefer to think of myself as concise.
 
@Epodax That's their problem
 
@DaveRandom I see, thanks anyhow for your time!
 
8:28 AM
@DaveRandom you know what matters though - to hate it
 
@JamesSnowy definitely recommend talking to the other person who knows the project first though :-)
 
@DaveRandom Unfortunately, stupid has a habit of making itself your problem too.
Regardless of how hard you try.
 
@Epodax of course it does, that's what pays the bills
 
@DaveRandom Aye, haha, I'll try!
 
A nice full-english would wake me up I think.
 
8:30 AM
@Epodax That's why I keep this around my desk at all time
 
@DaveRandom I'm sure your boss loves that.
 
It's his seat.
 
Anonymous
xD
 
Ekn
!!rfcs
 
Ekn
oh. I thought it'd be different
 
More colourful?
 
you just wanted to participate
 
@Fabor I don't get it? his seat?
 
Ekn
no, I thought last two were already voted
 
8:32 AM
@Epodax He sits on the finger. A not too uncommon insult.
 
!!urban sit and spin
 
A joke.
 
[ Sit and spin ] A polite way to tell someone, "Go fuck yourself!" It's the kind of phrase that even if you've never heard it before, when said at the right time with the right attitude, everyone in the room knows exactly what it means.
 
I just won a conference ticket to @velocityconf in #Amsterdam courtesy of @OReillyMedia!
 
@Fabor Oh...
 
8:33 AM
@Jimbo congratulations
 
@Ekn the votes haven't been closed on the wiki yet, forgetting to do so is a common problem
 
Ekn
I see
 
moin. happy rebeccaday!
 
Ekn
o/
 
8:42 AM
WTF
That is just weird.
 
I'm pretty sure said user is a known troll
 
!!rfcs
 
So, are there actually any good phone messenger clients that aren't reliant on your mobile number?
Outside of Tinder that is
 
Is signal based on phonenumber?
 
Anonymous
8:48 AM
@Jeeves @PeeHaa Out of interest, how does it remember/detect the previous message to unpin ?
 
@Fabor the google thing works fine for me.. hangouts or whatever it is now
 
@PeeHaa I don't remember
 
@JayIsTooCommon Persistent storage is just JSON file based at the moment
 
@PeeHaa keep trying
 
@PeeHaa talking to yourself again?
 
Anonymous
8:49 AM
ah
 
Wow, that validation rfc, an overwhelming no so far.
 
Eventually I will make amp/pgsql production ready and then it will be pgsql based
 
@Sean well, it's shit so...
 
@Fabor BTW it would be tits to have a non phonenumber based IM with desktop support
 
Although plugin-level key/value stores could use redis (or similar) as well, in theory
 
Anonymous
8:50 AM
Aug 15 at 9:15, by JayIsTooCommon
nah, AI please. kthnx.
 
@PeeHaa Tits being good?
 
tits is good
 
AH right, agree.
"The tits" ftr.
 
Anonymous
Doesn't Telegram do that?
 
dunno. Never used telegram beause russia
and closed source scheme
 
8:51 AM
or AIM
 
@PeeHaa what does "reliant on phone number" actually mean in practice?
I don't do mobile IM
Can't you just have something OpenID based and authorise the IMEI or something?
 
@DaveRandom what whatsapp does
 
Anonymous
A lot of IMs require you to insert a valid mobile number (then text confirmation) to use it
 
36 secs ago, by DaveRandom
I don't do mobile IM
I have no idea what whatsapp does
 
I'm pretty sure I have you in my list / sent you messages at some point?
 
8:53 AM
Well if you did I never read them :-P
 
Problem with mobile number is for people who travel and switch SIMs
 
I have never even installed it, because I value my battery life
 
@DaveRandom It's not very battery draining.
 
@DaveRandom its end-to-end encrypted (group) messaging. it's good for you-know-what-i-mean
 
It's not Pokemon Go.
 
8:53 AM
also my sanity but that's a secondary consideration
 
I've never even installed it, because fuck people
 
also that
 
hmmm I am wrong. You are not in my list. I probably just used that broken sms system
 
Yeh I have a mob number for you
 
@DaveRandom though I guess you'd enjoy snapchat more
 
8:54 AM
If SE chat had private channels and a mobile app, I'd probably use that
@Gordon I don't know what that is and I don't want to know what that is
 
I use Whatsapp and WeChat. Problem with them is the whole SIM thing. So I am forced to use Messenger. But I can't send nudes through that.
 
!!urban ludite
 
[ ludite ] A person who is averse to addapting to technology.
 
Anonymous
You're such a dad
 
!!dad
 
8:56 AM
If prisoners could take their own mug shots, they'd be called cellfies
 
don't like that one
 
ba dum tss
 
Anonymous
I smirked
 
Anonymous
@Fabor Try Telegram, I'm pretty sure you don't need a number but may be wrong
 
@DaveRandom well, then how about Tinder?
 
8:57 AM
@JayIsTooCommon russian closed source crap
 
/s/Tinder/Grinder
 
whatever you're into, we don't hate
 
@Fabor I had to google that
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa Didn't know it was Russian O.o
 
@Gordon It's "encrypted end-to-end" and owned by facebook
 
8:59 AM
@JayIsTooCommon It's VK owned
 
@Gordon I just use the bark off the logs, when you have a cigarette lighter there's no need to go through that rigmarole
 
I recently discovered SnowApp. It's like Snapchat but with more filters and I thinkl they won't delete your images.
 
And yeah their CEO was kinda raped by the RU gov. So guess what is leading the company now ;)
 
I kept trying Snapchat but not enough social circle people use it.
 
@DaveRandom I have no clue what you just said and I think that is a good thing :D
 

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