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Wes
12:27 AM
gn
 
 
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2:04 AM
@bwoebi actually those are all reserved by POSIX
And leading underscore is supposed to have specific meaning for a symbol which is local to the compilation unit.
Leading underscore followed by upper case letter is reserved as well
Actually the standard, not POSIX. Double underscores leading the symbol are also all reserved.
 
Moin!
 
@LeviMorrison right, but that _t :x
 
Ekn
2:37 AM
uh, pecl.php.net gives me this:
> Your connection is not secure. The owner of pecl.php.net has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.
> The certificate expired on 06/02/2016 08:59 PM. The current time is 06/02/2016 11:36 PM.
also, mornin
 
Hi
Anyone if can help please visit this question : stackoverflow.com/questions/37604879/…
Thank you
 
Mine too:
> Attackers might be trying to steal your information from pecl.php.net (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID
 
Wes
3:23 AM
morning.... right? looks out window
 
Ekn
riiiiight
 
3:51 AM
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Q: Should Stack Overflow be more restrictive about new user registrations?

Brad LarsonThe largest problem facing the site today is the flood of terrible questions coming in, mostly from new user accounts. I've mentioned this before, but I suspect that some of the worst of this is due to people who have created multiple throwaway accounts to evade question bans and other limits. Ot...

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Ekn
:D hehe
I'm trying to teach mine how to say I luv yu, so far he kinda can :p
 
Wes
my dog did the opposite. while he loved water, he didn't like baths, who knows why
 
Ekn
yeah mine too
 
Wes
@Ekn shouldn't you teach him how to hunt preys :B
 
Ekn
preys? :D
 
Wes
4:11 AM
lost in translation?
 
Ekn
I'm not living in a jungle, yo :p heh
nah he's even having fun with birds
 
Wes
lol :P yeah, i meant animals should be animals, superior fiery beings, not inferior humans :B
i always hated people that do stupid things with their pets, like making them wear clothes and stuff like that. i feel embarrassed for them
 
Ekn
uh yes I hate it too
well, I don't treat him like a toy pet that's for sure
 
Wes
good :P i knew a woman that couldn't leave her dog alone. poor animal. it was seriously disturbed
 
Ekn
although he literally shakes my hand when I say so :p
 
Wes
4:16 AM
that's ok :P
 
Ekn
yeah, also he can open doors by himself
although I wish he could close them as well :p
 
Wes
lol
my dog only knew one trick. used to come to me anywhere i was, farting hard and run away
 
Ekn
lol ahaha
 
Wes
i had some nice photos of him but my ex kept them all :(
 
Ekn
:(
 
Wes
4:22 AM
i had a photo with him that managed to group like ten cats on the same tree
and sat under the tree stand guard so that cats stay where they belong. awesome :D
 
Ekn
hah :D which breed?
 
Wes
my dog?
 
Ekn
yep
 
Wes
husky too, although i believe not 100% pure
 
Ekn
:)
 
Wes
4:24 AM
had some characteristics of belgian or german sheperds
 
Y NO ONE HAVING A DOGE?
 
Wes
my dog was totally doge
 
:D
btw new avatar?
 
Ekn
I wanted to find an alaskan malamute, a female one for so long... but there was literally none around here or in Argentina
 
Wes
i want an alaskan malamute for myself :B but i need to buy a house with some green first :B
 
Ekn
4:27 AM
:)
 
Wes
would be too nasty force such a giant animal to live in apt
 
Ekn
indeed
even for Ace when I first wanted, I wouldn't get him if there wasn't a garden
it's just not natural
 
Wes
yeah. especially for this kind of dogs
 
Ekn
right
 
Wes
4:34 AM
.
what i am supposed to do with the diamond play
or you mean the horse
the alaskan malamute is pretty much horse sized, you know
 
@Wes horse!
 
Wes
i've seen once an alaskan malamute puppy that was already as big as my adult husky. lol
 
:P
 
Ekn
4:53 AM
oh lol
these would literally leave no space for you wherever you sleep/sit
 
5:06 AM
you could sleep on top of them
 
Ekn
yeah :D
or just hug them and fit in heh
 
they do look good for hugs
I'd love a giant dog, but my little boy is still a bit scared of other peoples dogs ... we went as big as we could ...
and the boy only allowed us to go that big because the dog feels and looks like a teddy bear .... they are proper dogs, with teeth on display all the time
 
posted on June 03, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
Ekn
maybe if he sees a little fluffy malamute puppy he'd like the idea :)
 
5:19 AM
Good morning...
When you guys go for sleep bcz you were here when i leave yesterday and you are here today also :)
 
Well, after you left, I went out for a walk and got hit by an auto rickshaw.
I couldn't sleep that well last night because pain.
 
Hahaha really ?
 
Wes
wanna know how i wasted last 3 hours
 
Are you guys ahead of us (indian) or behind in time ??
 
Wes
mb_convert_encoding($r, "UTF-8", "UTF32-BE")
can you notice it?
 
5:23 AM
yeah, lol
 
Wes
i want to die
 
Jump off a clif
 
Anyone here from Finland oh god i want to go to Finland for work but i think no one is going to give me a job bcz of poor english of mine. So tell me guys how can i go to finland from india to get an job ?
 
Wes
you'll inherit my computer @Saitama contains lots of pr0n
 
:P
 
5:25 AM
@Saitama Thats a good idea but what if he ended up loosing hands and legs only ?? :D
 
He'll restart the game
 
Wes
ha
 
Ekn
yeey pecl is up
 
@littlepootis you was saying that you had an accident really ??
 
Ekn
5:27 AM
ouch, anything sirius?
 
Nah, I narrowly missed getting run over
 
Okk than its fine :)
 
Ekn
@Wes really? :D
"UTF32-BE"
 
Wes
i couldn't notice it till i noticed it..... after 3 hours
!!eval echo str_repeat("F", 50) . str_repeat("U", 50);
 
[ 5.5.0 - 5.6.22, hhvm-3.9.1 - 3.12.0, 7.0.0 - 7.0.7 ] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU‌​UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
5:32 AM
\o/
 
Ekn
lol
 
Wes
it worked, at last
 
that was fast
 
<?php echo str_repeat("F", 50) . str_repeat("U", 50);; here is double semi-colons how that even working without throwing an error ?
 
So, php ignores extra semicolons?
 
5:34 AM
@littlepootis yes.
 
@Saitama never noticed that
 
Wes
!!eval echo @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@not_a_constant;
 
5:36 AM
PHP
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Wes
!!eval $a = ['LOL' => 10]; echo $a[@LOL];
 
oh.. nice..
also, that's stupid
 
PHP: Puts sunglasses on.
Deal with it.
 
Thats like i never seen and felt PHP like this before
Folks thats great
Anyone would like to describe
echo @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@not_a_constant; ???
 
5:40 AM
What is this thing called (@roflolmao => "roflolmao") and where does spec talk about this behaviour?
 
@ is a thing which suppresses errors...
 
I know. So..
 
@"roflolmao" === "roflolmao"
right?
 
Wes
@littlepootis php.net/manual/…
 
5:42 AM
apparently, true..
 
@Saitama thanks
 
Wes
> This is wrong, but it works. #PHP
 
BC
 
@Wes $a = ['LOL' => 10]; echo $a[@LOL]; in this case $a is an array right
 
ahh
So, it has nothing to with @.
 
Wes
5:44 AM
yeah @ just hides the warning
!!eval $a = ['LOL' => 10]; echo $a[LOL];
 
[ 5.5.0 - 5.6.22, hhvm-3.9.1 - 3.12.0, 7.0.0 - 7.0.7 ] Notice: Use of undefined constant LOL - assumed 'LOL' in /in/sNenp on line 1 10
 
Wes
10 is returned anyway though. it's not even a warning.. just a notice
 
$a[LOL]; in this case LOL is a constant witch is not defined anywhere so why $a[LOL]; is giving 10 ??
 
4 mins ago, by Wes
@littlepootis http://php.net/manual/language.types.array.php#language.types.array.foo-bar
 
@littlepootis you meant @roflolmao === "roflolmao" right ??
 
5:51 AM
@PraveenKumar yeah
 
this is also returning true :D
 
...unless roflolmao is a defined constant.
 
@Jeeves It's Rebecca Day!
 
morning
 
Wes
morning @JoeWatkins :B can you change uopz so that i can set an object to a constant? :B don't ask.
in my defense, it's an immutable object
 
Ekn
5:57 AM
o/
 
Wes
mornings
 
@Wes immutable != eternal
 
@Sherif can you explain by an example ?
 
Explain what, exactly?
 
...unless roflolmao is a defined constant.
 
Wes
5:58 AM
!!eval define('roflolmao', 'defined'); var_dump(@roflolmao === "roflolmao");
 
Seems pretty self explanitory. `const roflolmao = 'bar'; var_dump(@roflolmao === "roflolmao"); // bool(false)
 
@Sherif Yes i was thinking of this scenario... Thanks anyways
 
So, somehow my provisioning script screwed up after going to bed last night and my 200 EC2s I spun up for a test stayed up for 24 hours. Awesome... this bug just cost me $80
note to self do not put EC2 instances provisioned for a test in the same autoscale group as the rest of your cluster.
 
Wes
ouch
 
6:13 AM
Happy Rebecca day!
 
!!rebecca
 
Is codeigniter gonna release another verson ??
 
morning!
 
@Saitama When are you gonna start punching people again? I miss the show :(
 
6:14 AM
ahh Rebecca Day! ahahahaha i was thinking "what is Rebecca day!!?"
oh gosh
 
@AdilIlhan you new here :P
 
definitely
 
@Epodax tbh I miss it too... but !!blame Director
 
@Saitama Why so?
Aren't a second season coming? That's what I heard at least.
 
it's gonna be late for the second season afaik
 
the next chapters (after the season 1 for anime) in the manga aren't enough to make a season 2 of.
btw the orginal web comic is pretty far ahead too tho!
 
morning
 
'nin
 
6:34 AM
i just learned: messenger.com
 
nice
 
Wes
back in my days, messenger used to be one thing only
 
what?
 
Wes
they closed it down because skype. how fucking stupid
 
6:43 AM
:P
 
Wes
@Saitama msn messenger / windows live messenger
 
oh
 
Wes
the only decent messenger ever existed
 
Skype is better than MSN
 
6:44 AM
@Wes back in my days ?? how old are you ??
 
Wes
skype sucks horses butt
 
@PraveenKumar I'm 17 and back when I was new to interwebz, it was the only thing.
 
Wes
skype can't even sort messages in the correct order they were sent
 
There was Yahoo Messenger too.
 
Wes
might be good with audio and video but sucks hard for text
 
6:46 AM
@littlepootis only 17 i am 23 ??
 
skype is spend battery so much
 
Should i learn laravel or smarty ??
9
 
php, properly
 
and Skype doesn't add new features to Linux version
meh
 
Wes
Should i wear t-shirt or pants ??
 
6:48 AM
both
 
Wes
i said or :B
 
Winners don't wear pants
 
Wes
true
 
maybe boxer
 
There's a reason they're called commandos
 
6:49 AM
If you have six packs i advise you to wear pants :B
 
Wes
@DaveRandom i don't get it, but i laughed already
 
@NikiC Does the existing proposal actively prevent that from being fixed in the future in some way that I'm missing? Return type inference would be really awesome but I don't see any way in which it would conflict with the current proposal?
@Wes You know what a commando is I assume?
 
Wes
yes :P
 
I'm going to guess that this will have the other meaning...
!!urban commando
 
[ Commando ] (v.) To not wear underwear. The origins for this are either "out in the open" or "ready for action". Maybe others. (n.) A non-stop arnie movie with him jumping from an aeroplance, overturning a porsche, and killing entire armies without a scratch. Far from his best (terminator series, predator and jingle all the way), but better than that cold heat one.
 
6:53 AM
"ready for action" hahahah
 
Wes
lol
 
> A non-stop arnie movie with him jumping from an aeroplance, overturning a porsche, and killing entire armies without a scratch. Far from his best (terminator series, predator and jingle all the way), but better than that cold heat one.
 
What kind of action are they talking about? ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
public function actionWTF()
 
Wes
TIL
 
6:54 AM
What does it mean aeroplance ??
jumping from an aeroplance
 
Surgeon Simulator - 80% off on Steam!
 
really?
wait...
 
Wes
is anybody trying the new phpstorms?
 
which version?
 
Wes
something 5.6/7.0 ish that didn't work before and now works?
 
Wes
like auto add to imports for functions (use function Bla\Blo\func;)? stuff like that
 
nope, haven't used that yet..
lemme check that then..
 
Also, a free Donald Trump DLC
yeah
 
Wes
in 10 it still adds the FQN of the function inline, while for classes it adds the import at the top of the file
 
currently I'm using 2016.1.2
@littlepootis does that game work in linux?
 
7:01 AM
@Saitama yep
 
k!
 
> I heard video games make people violent, so I figured this game would make me a good surgeon. It seemed to have worked, because my patients die in real life just like in the game
 
Gud Mrng 11
 
@littlepootis lol
 
7:15 AM
mornign
 
'nin
 
@Wes you look old school
 
Wes
@PeeHaa so it works in 2016? :|
 
Trying to understand this service. My bank uses it, but the last paragraph sounds like bullshit. lookingglasscyber.com/products/threat-intelligence-services/…
Are they basically logging attempts to spider a bank's site by monitoring if their seal is copied in the process?
 
Anonymous
7:26 AM
@crypticツ "We guarantee that we will detect 100 percent of all phishing attacks"
Brave
 
yeah, that's why it smelled like bullshit. =oP
 
@JayIsTooCommon a bold statement is bold :)
 
yeah?
 
this little guy is nice! :D
 
7:40 AM
!!wotd
 
olykoek: doughnut.
 
wtf -_-
 
Ekn
o.Ô
 
7:55 AM
Morning. Happy rebeccaday all! \o/
 
'nin
 
Wes
uh. i've found a bug in php7
 
Wouldn't mind an olykoek atm honestly.
 
@Wes Then report it? :)
 
:P
 
Anonymous
8:01 AM
@Wes What is it?
 
Ekn
bleh I'm adding packages.dotdeb.org to /etc/apt/sources.list and can see all the packages I ask for are there but I can't locate/install some of them via apt-cache search
such as mbstring, soap, zip, bcmath, iconv
 
is it possible to use curl in php, by loading curl from the shared lib (.so)?
 
@Saitama yes
 
how?
 
...by building curl as a shared module?
How have you installed PHP?
Did you build it yourself?
 
8:08 AM
built it myself
 
@DaveRandom As the solution would likely be a different kind of type check rather than return type inference, it can conflict
 
do u use jessie? @ekn
 
Anonymous
jollow.
 
Ekn
@AdilIlhan this one is jessie yes
 
Anonymous
Wasn't there an RFC for the short-hand closure functions syntax?
 
Anonymous
8:09 AM
Did it ever pass?
 
Anonymous
Something with sperm or spermatozoon ..
 
@NikiC So you are concerned that it would need to be implemented as a run-time check on the actual return value of the callback? Or something else?
In fact that couldn't work because the function execution could have side effects before that point
 
@DaveRandom yes ... and if implemented as a run-time check it may have further repercussions due to how exactly one could realize such a runtime check without modifying the function directly
 
@Ekn super weird. according to dotdeb.org jessie is up to date :/
 
@NikiC If the proposal dropped return type support, would you vote in favour then? (I realise you are probably sick of discussing/explaining this but I'm really struggling with this one)
@Saitama You just need to phpize the extension to generate a configure script and then you should be able to configure/make
 
8:15 AM
@DaveRandom thanks, sir!
 
Wes
so it wasn't a bug, just an error 3v4l.org/ncuVp 27000 bytes isn't much really and that regex is the one that the w3c suggests to validate utf-8...
it's because pcre's jit, right?
 
!!rebecca
 
@Wes Regex feels like a sucky way to validate UTF8
 
Wes
8:25 AM
sucky but possibly the fastest, no?
 
Maybe, maybe not, not sure
 
@Wes run it through unicode mode instead, doesn't even need a proper regex
@DaveRandom Not sure on that ... problem is that I'm not sure about semantics with return types, but without return types the proposal would feel incomplete
 
user image
3
So bad, it's funny again.
 
Wes
@NikiC iirc it allowed to pass some valid sequences that aren't actually within unicode range
 
8:33 AM
What the actual fuck: bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=72323&edit=1
8
 
Mornings 11
Happy frydai!
 
@RonniSkansing Moin. Happy rebeccaday.
 
@JoeWatkins I were believe you were going to hassle someone about adding a "needs RFC" status ^^
 
thanks
 
Anonymous
@NikiC Completely reasonable...
 
8:36 AM
kidding? @JayIsTooCommon
 
Wes
@NikiC nvm, that was fixed in PCRE 7.3, possibly 10 years ago :B
 
Anonymous
Yes :)
 
@Wes that means you're probably going to hit it when deploying to rhel? :P
 
@NikiC i need a function. makeAProject(title, expectedMarketShare)
 
Ekn
> The next obvious development would be to enclose the pdf as an email attachment, using a similar syntax to the current email function.
 
Wes
8:37 AM
lol
 
@Ekn Very obivous, yes.
 
yay friday
 
@NikiC While I agree with this, I can't help feeling like this is one of those things that if it fails the first time it will fail repeatedly and either we'll never get it or end up with a compromise that pleases no-one. I saw what you said yesterday about other languages and it's a completely legit argument, except for the fact that the way those languages work is with type inference, which they are able to do because they have strongly typed variables.
 
Wes
how do i know which version of pcre a php version used?
 
I just can't see any other way we could do it - you can't let the function execute and throw up at the point where it returns an invalid value because that could have side effects and might fail inconsistently, and you can't automagically infer return types from non-constant values because PHP. (although you could infer from return 42 etc, which would be fine and still useful for this particular case)
 
8:38 AM
@Wes phpinfo
 
Wes
there's a constant! PCRE_VERSION
Output for 5.2.4 7.2 2007-06-19
found it. so yeah, 9 years ago :P
 
close enough
 

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