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7:01 PM
@Andrea That's more specific input filtering then the generic sanitisation one usually sees.
 
7:27 PM
Does being online in this chatroom take up lots of internet bandwidth?
 
Wes
nope
 
ah ok ..! thx
 
Wes
only few bytes are transferred for each message
 
however I guess you and I have two different definition of "lots of internet bandwidth" :-)
@Wes if I be online here for whole day, almost how much size will be spent?
 
Wes
depends. text must be just few mb daily, but if someone posts a gif, that alone could be several megabytes
 
7:34 PM
I see
 
7:45 PM
so , @Shafizadeh , how's your first month being cut off from you family?
 
Wes
lol
 
@tereško :-) .. sweet question (however if your question isn't sarcasm), for me who is usually alone, such a question gives me nice feeling ..! anyway, I'm fine :-) I used to it kinda ;-)
 
it usually lets you appreciate the "home food" a lot more
 
Hah .. indeed :-)
 
e'nin
 
Wes
7:56 PM
\o
 
8:33 PM
o/
 
8:49 PM
@Andrea sanitization is only valid when the target medium does not accept the input. E.g. you cannot send null-bytes over a protocol where the data is null-byte delimited and does not offer an other way of escaping.
But for the typical use cases of HTML, JS, database insertion etc., yeah, it's definitely bad to sanitize…
 
user1804599
@NikiC did you experience much pain setting up the parser generator you used for PHP-Parser?
 
After a full day of messing around with debian, I managed to get Nginx, mysql and php set up!
 
user1804599
I'd like to use a parser generator too and I'm evaluating several options.
 
9:04 PM
@rightfold as long as you don't want to change the code it's fine ^^
 
user1804599
@NikiC What do you mean by "change the code"?
 
@sweg_yolo_69 not sure why the fuck did you go with debian
 
@rightfold the parsing algorithm
 
user1804599
Okay :)
 
@rightfold I find it a bit clunky that I have to use a separate binary for this and it isn't pure-PHP
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
Maybe I'll use parser combinators though.
 
systemc is such a pain :/
 
user1804599
I'm generating PHP code from a new programming language again. :P
 
user1804599
You won't believe how much code I have to generate to get lexical scope for global variables working.
 
user1804599
But it works. :D
 
/*
 * Specifies whether a key is currently down.
 */
typedef enum {
     DIKS_UP             = 0x00000000,  /* key is not pressed */
     DIKS_DOWN           = 0x00000001   /* key is pressed */
} DFBInputDeviceKeyState;
 
9:22 PM
posted on December 03, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
@JoeWatkins lol
 
ikr
 
@tereško This was just for a VM, but it seemed liked the best to me since I've used it before
 
I think that's purposely a joke, all other enums follow a different naming convention
 
@tereško There were too many posts about not using Arch as it wasn't stable enough
@tereško So I thought I'd just use Debian since i've used it before
 
9:27 PM
I wonder what "not stable enough" means
 
It was mixed feelings with arch. Some stating that updates can break it(serverfault.com/questions/173286/…), too much work needed(infoworld.com/article/2993115/linux/…), but most important of all, I didn't see any notable reasons to use it over debian
 
you mean, aside from debian 8 coming with php 5.6
well, your choice
 
@JoeWatkins wanker over there... :P
 
Well I had to use a thid-party repository(dotdeb.org) to get php7 but it worked as expected
The paths some php files were different than the ones on php5 but I managed
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins maybe they are planning adding more?
 
9:38 PM
@Wes What like IN and OUT?
 
Wes
like if ctrl alt shift etc are also pressed
idk...
 
thejokeyouaremissingit.gif ;)
 
Wes
:P
 
@Wes "dick up" "dick down" <- the joke
 
Wes
i never get jokes
 
9:41 PM
that was an interesting read antirez.com/news/109
 
10:01 PM
@rightfold why do you have global variables? :P
 
user1804599
Constants that can be any value.
 
user1804599
You write val goldenRatio = 3.14159265359f; and you get lpaste.net/5037363366755041280 :P
 
@rightfold that's a constant, not a global (mutable) variable
 
user1804599
Good variables are constants. Mutable variables are naughty. :P
 
@rightfold the problem is when both are addressed with the same syntax
 
user1804599
10:07 PM
My compiler tracks all variables in scope (and errors if you reference one that isn't statically known).
 
user1804599
It generates code accordingly.
 
@rightfold well, there's one thing PHP definitely got right, and that's explicit scoping. It sucks sometimes to write, but much better to read.
 
user1804599
lol val goldenRatio = 3.14159265359f;, I just realise this is pi
 
:-D
 
@rightfold Maybe someone misread phi/pi at some point in the past?
 
10:17 PM
@Andrea random note: ce (in French) is neutral and thus always using masculine forms. If you're referring to a feminine noun, explicitly use elle, and it's fine.
 
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you mean cette?
 
@FlorianMargaine nah, uh … don't want to quote from her private twitter feed … It was something like referring to a "ma chose" from the sentence before and then stating something like "c'était très mauvaise"
And thus needs to be either "c'était très mauvais" (generic) or "elle était très mauvaise" (la chose)
 
10:39 PM
@Ekin Out and about earlier I walked past this apparently you're quite good :)
 
lol
 
Didn't go in, but will definitely have to later :)
 
:D
yeah even I might one day
 
Although, vegetarian, not sure if Turkish places cater for that
 
Well, it seems like a kebab house, but I'd expect them to serve soup and veggies as well
dunno :)
!!should I open up phpstorm or open steam
 
10:49 PM
You should open up phpstorm.
 
I ask myself this question all the time LOL
 
alrite @Jeeves agreed
 
@rightfold wat
Why such complicated?
 
@Ekin what are you playing at the moment? (and don't say PHP)
Ah yea, I play PHP, I'm a level 5 framework goblin
 
user1804599
@NikiC Normal global variables aren't namespaced.
 
user1804599
10:57 PM
And define doesn't work with all values.
 
/me casts static $discharge
 
@rightfold meh, still looks like overkill
 
user1804599
I can't think of a different way.
 
Why not explicitly namespace the names using ${}?
 
@rightfold Well, do there exist non-mutable types define() doesn't accept?
 
10:59 PM
or what do you mean by namespaced? namespaced or scoped?
 
@Leigh I was about to poke Jeev code for a while. But I want to try how rust and CS will be on the new laptop later
 
uff, not a CS fan, but I've wanted to try Rust for a while, a lot of people playing Ark seem to have come from Rust
 
@Leigh rust is nice, until you have to touch unsafe stuff
 
All the Rust players I met in Ark are dickheads, and I feel Rust made them that way :P
 
and depending on what you want to do, you start looking at how libraries do stuff, and you kind of have to rewrite it, and you touch unsafe stuff, and you want to go do something else than rust
(like, I looked at libraries to have a small abstraction over epoll_wait (as in, safe bindings), turns out it was only polling 1 event at a time... so I felt forced to write my own abstraction.)
 
11:09 PM
@Leigh probably right about that :p
 
11:25 PM
@Ekin what rank are you in CS?
 
user1804599
@NikiC Like with the backslashes.
 
user1804599
I suppose I could mangle the names and assign global variables.
 
Wes
@PeeHaa what unpaid programming did you do today? :D
 
Opened my git platform thingy again
 
Wes
\o/
 
11:39 PM
He only opened it
 
:-)
 
Presumably read some bits and thought "wtf is this shit" and then close it again
I say that because that's usually what happens to me when I look at something I wrote
 
@DaveRandom …… wait @PeeHaa you forgot to close it!?
@DaveRandom your feelings when looking at @Jeeves ?
 
@Florian (Although it was a different "rust",) is the unsafe context mainly about lessening type system strictness?
 
@bwoebi Actually I think I might be growing, because I'm generally OK with most of Jeeves
 
11:42 PM
@DaveRandom Let's check again next year :-)
 
Wes
@DaveRandom lowl
 
Uh … @DaveRandom how old is Jeeves already?
 
@sweg_yolo_69 don't even know really, not playing it/anything a lot
 
Almost 1 year
IIRC @PeeHaa's first commit was on the 2nd or 3rd of Jan
 
@DaveRandom After how many refactors? :-)
 
11:43 PM
@DaveRandom Sounds about right
 
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