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7:14 AM
 
is expert anyone know?
is no expert?
here
 
stop looking for expert and become one!
 
then you will be constantly looking for yourself :\
Good morning
 
@Ja͢ck why can't you solve my question
 
i've tried.
 
7:19 AM
is i difficult to say
 
<input name="files[]" type="file"> <-- make multiple of those
then see what you get in $_FILES when the form gets submitted.
 
thats the iphone service
using phph
hhey will send file1,file4 randomly
but in our database i should save in file1 and file2 filed
 
shouldn't matter .. just iterate over $_FILES and renumber.
 
"Your connection added a new skill: Ruby. Would you like to endorse them?" - *click remove connection* #ruby
#trololol
 
morning meine Freunde!
 
7:32 AM
@Jimbo very friendly
 
Those Ruby guys boggle my mind
 
I'm currently picking it up hah
Damn, I want to bundle my app as a phar .. but it includes a few .jar files that need to be run ...
 
Does that matter?
phar is just an archive
 
Yes, unless Java can directly access the .jar file from inside the phar ...
 
It can't, but can't you extract the jar and save it to the local file system?
 
7:38 AM
Yeah, I was thinking about doing that exactly heh
 
@Jimbo you look like the lead singer of some band like 30 Seconds to mars, or As I Lay Dying
 
@ziGi You look like a cartoon character
 
@Jay Am now :)
 
@Sherif you look like a terrorist
 
Really? What does a terrorist look like?
 
7:40 AM
you kind of add terror to this room
 
You all look like people, with your faces!
 
@Trowski LGTM
 
@Ja͢ck the saddest part is that there are on average 7 more people looking like me
 
That is sad, and you should feel ashamed.
 
@internals, where can I see some change list with php7 features, like in one place? RFC are fine, but I need to get it in one place to send to my colleague :\
 
7:42 AM
The changelog?
 
no, there's no "changelog" with new features ..
 
ah, yeah, that, cool
thanks, @NikiC
 
That's true. Someone hasn't done the migration guide yet. cough
 
@Jimbo where did you graduate your BSc
 
7:45 AM
@NikiC hmm, is thomas an internal? don't recall seeing that name in the mailing list before ;-)
 
hm
which memory profiler do you recommend for php?
i.e. my app goes over 128MB RAM, I want to find out why
 
blackfire, I guess, works fine
 
not in my case
 
why?
 
dunno, it's failing pretty hard
 
7:48 AM
define "failing"
 
not successful
 
tells me it took 6s to load when it actually took 6 minutes
confirming this tho...
 
strange. works fine for me
 
yup, used it successfully before
 
Were you spending 5 minutes and 54 seconds of that time in some external stream, like a database, socket, file system call, etc..?
PHP doesn't account for those
 
7:50 AM
@Sherif wouldn't change that blackfire is buggy on my side
 
Anonymous
Morning o/
 
@Ja͢ck not sure
 
@Sherif it's probably IO with something external, how do I find out?
 
@FlorianMargaine well, you're just loser
(:
 
@FlorianMargaine ps -aef | grep {php process}
 
Anonymous
7:52 AM
@PeeHaa Wanted to run an answer by you before I posted it, but all good now :)
 
That will tell you which files that php process has opened on the system.
 
@Jay :)
 
@Sherif uh.. thanks, I guess.
 
You could also use lsof -p <pid>
 
going this way, I might as well go with strace
 
7:53 AM
if you get the pid number from ps aux
 
strace is the best option I think. If you're ready to get into .. details
 
Depends on what you mean by best. strace is a whole lot of noise if you're just trying to figure out what files the process opened.
 
@ziGi Manchester
 
Oh great, it's a nice city
 
I want to change this to Git involved php.net/get-involved.php :)
 
7:57 AM
@Sherif But docs aren't on git yet :(
 
@NikiC meh, who cares. Gives me an excuse to use svn.
We'll just leave the whole documentation part out.
I'm going to have php.net/git-involved redirect to php.net/sunglasses
Get ready for the flood of contributors that will come on board when that happens.
Or should I say git ready :)
 
Shouldn't laugh but... lmfao
 
Yikes
That's a PR nightmare
> The news site iTech Post noted that the app was tagging pictures of dogs as horses in May.
So not only is it a racist app, it's a speciest app as well?
 
@Sherif Wow. That is just horrible! Think of the horses!
 
I mean... a horse's shlong is much larger than that of any dog. How could you get that wrong?
 
8:06 AM
Mornin
 
lol
@VeeeneX Mornin'
 
Surely the penile measuring elements of this AI program are out of whack.
 
@Jimbo I don't see why people get offended by the burden of their forefathers. I think people just like getting offended in general because they are insecure.
 
Or they enjoy drama
Which is pathetic, imho
 
@Jimbo x-actly
 
8:09 AM
function _getFormHash($formName)
{
	global $FORMTIME, $FORMHASH;

	return '<input type="hidden" name="FORMHASH" id="FORMHASH" value="'.$FORMHASH.'">
		  <input type="hidden" name="FORMTIME" id="FORMTIME" value="'.$FORMTIME.'">
		  <input type="hidden" name="FORMNAME" id="FORMNAME" value="'.$formName.'">';
}
Yes I really found that in a codebase just now and yes the global state screws up here
 
if Google misinterprets me as a white monkey, I won't be offended, I'd just be happy that it confirms the similarity of people and monkeys
 
Good morning, I got a question about foreach and my array. This is the idea: name - type - answer 1-1 - answer 2-1 - answer 3-1 - name - type - answer 1-2 - answer 2-2. Now I'm just iterating through each of the array keys and values, but now I want to check in my foreach loop if the next answer is an asnwer as well, and the next one, etc. till I get to the point there is no answer but the name... How can I achieve this?
 
@HuubS Can you show it in pastie or 3v4l
 
pastie.org/10271187 this is my current server code
 
@NikiC Is it just me or is master broken right now?
 
8:16 AM
@Sherif Just you
 
mumbles things about autoconf
 
This is what I send to the server so you get an idea and what I get back: pastie.org/10271189
 
I shot the Sherif, but I didn't shoot the deputy :D
 
pastie.org/10271191 this is what I get back
 
@HuubS Your array is has numeric keys right so what about $array[$i+1] for next key
 
8:23 AM
@VeeeneX Hm, I don't think I know what you mean.. As you can see I want to group the *-1 answers together in the [ answer ] array, but I dont know how to group the answers first in an array before I insert it into the big array
Actually I think I just want to get the next key in the array so I can check if its an answer as well, if that is the case, I can just add it into the same spot as the previous one
 
Damn buildconf and all its goofies :/
 
foreach($formelementen as $key => $value) you have this how can you do this :if($key == 'type'), your array has numeric keys
 
@ziGi Where's the picture in your twitter profile?
 
moin
 
{"name":"type[]","value":"radio"},{"name":"name[]","value":"radio naam 1"},{"name":"label[]","value":"radio label 1"},{"name":"placeholder[]","value":"radio placeholder 1"},{"name":"answer[]","value":"antwoord 1-1"},{"name":"answer[]","value":"antwoord 1-2"}
 
8:30 AM
Is it time to go to the pub yet?
 
I have numeric and string keys, see this: pastie.org/10271191 the first string is what I send to the server, and the rest is what I get back from the server when I print_r the array
Its a multidimensional array
 
@HuubS this is a slightly horrible way to do it, but it is simple - is 3v4l.org/ife6r what you want?
You could of course parse the keys yourself to group them like that, but parse_str() is already designed to be able to cope with array-push keys
It seems to me like your input data is weird, and you could likely solve this problem much better by transmitting it in a more suitable format in the first place
 
@DaveRandom Yeah I am thinking that the way I send it is not really preferable.. Maybe I can ask for some advice in that way..
But tbh, i dont really see another way of doing it.. Hmm
Sometimes I want to crack my skull open xD
Driving me nuts
 
Well, either you could send it as application/x-www-form-urlencoded (like a query string in a URL) such as 3v4l.org/X201S or you could structure the JSON as you want it like 3v4l.org/D58LW - look at the output of those snippets rather than the snippets themselves
Especially with JSON, remember that it is capable of transmitting complex data structures, you don't need to flatten it to a single array like that
 
Yeah I think the problem lies in the way I send the data to the server
But it's kind of a big application so to explain it all to you is not really do-able
Thanks for the help anyway, really appreciate it
 
8:46 AM
@DaveRandom God yes
Damnit all flights to manchester or expensive for today :( @DaveRandom
:P
 
can I get all the data from inputs in a certain div and make it a JSON string?
 
@HuubS Yes
Although you should rather target a form instead of a div I think
 
Yeah I know but If i target the whole form at once I get trouble grouping the data later on
Well f*ck it I leave it for now my head hurts
Thanks for all the help!
 
9:04 AM
@PeeHaa walk
Or bike it, I know how you Dutchies love to cycle
@HuubS Yes, there should be plenty of examples of doing this sort of thing on the interwebs
 
Thanks for the help guys I just came up with a solution :)
 
@DaveRandom I'm not your ordinary dutch guy :P
 
@PeeHaa you're a lazy dutch guy?
 
If only there was a manual where this stuff was documented...
 
@PeeHaa Whose ordinary Dutch guy are you then?
Who's? I have no idea how the possessive works there. I hate English.
 
9:09 AM
Whom maybe
 
@FlorianMargaine Whom refers to the object of the sentence.
As in "I saw the programmers whom programmed."
 
thanks
this part has always been blurry for me (whose/whom)
 
Whose is possessive. "Whose sweater is that?". Whom is typically used in place of the object of a verb. Like "Whom did he marry." Where, he, is the subject, and the person he married is the object.
But it's really archaic. It's perfectly OK by today's English to use Who in most of those cases.
It's just typically more clarifying when the object of the sentence can be easily confused by the subject.
 
@Sherif I was always taught that in cases like that you should probably just refactor the sentence to refer to the subject directly by name anyway
 
9:20 AM
@DaveRandom Well, yeah, but in most of those cases the subject is referred to by a pronoun, as in the context has already referred to such name prior.
 
Most useless forms of communication:
1) IPX/SPX
2) English
Maybe s/useless/frustrating/ but I stand by that
 
Like when you're writing an academic paper you're told to only state the expansion once in italics and then continue to use the abbreviation therein.
 
Most useful forms of communication:
1) code
2) face-to-face with other human
 
2 is bullshit
 
@bwoebi You actually get face-to-face with another human?
 
9:22 AM
1 works for too few people
 
Why? We have Google Hangouts and Skype.
 
@DaveRandom lolz
 
I do hangouts to talk to the guy next to me, half the time.
 
that's just voice and video… pfffff
 
@FlorianMargaine Do you still have to ask that? :)
 
9:22 AM
@Sherif seriously…
 
@bwoebi Well yeah, turning my head is exhausting.
 
@Sherif good joke.
 
@ziGi not too shabby
 
I'd much rather send packets with images of my face and voice half way accros the world and back in order to communicate more efficiently.
 
9:24 AM
@bwoebi left you a message on t@lkzone
 
@Sherif it sounds more like you are just trying to draw attention and look interesting than anything else
 
@ziGi E_NOT_FRIDAY_LINK
 
@DaveRandom actually I forgot it's Friday, I've been so stressed lately, and I had horrible vomiting accident this morning
 
As opposed to one of those intentional vomit incidents?
 
9:41 AM
user image
2
 
@HamZa I thought this was well known? This is one reason why people always bang on about using imagecopyresampled() to deal with user-supplied images
@Sherif It's going to take you an hour to vomit??
 
@DaveRandom Gotta make sure you allocate enough time for clean up too.
 
Ahh, good point
 
Unplanned vomiting is clearly undesirable.
 
... thats so sad... you must be using the wrong framework @Sherif
 
9:46 AM
@DaveRandom yes, seems quite intensive
@Sherif btw I call that an easy day
 
9:59 AM
and good mornin room
 
I like the fact that it took that many tries to get it right
 
Anonymous
10:10 AM
@SergeyTelshevsky Awesome
 
user4433485
hi all
 
Morning all. Very odd error here, and I'm not sure if it's PHP or JS related, but I'll ask anyway... what is being returned from my server is not the same as what appears on my client
Here's the data being returned from my server: i.imgur.com/xlKQAUX.png
and here's what's in my client: i.imgur.com/k44Ueur.png
notice the thumb_large and thumb_small properties? On the server, they are (correctly) appended with a .jpg file type. On my client, they've magically assumed a .gif file tyle
Why would this be?!
 
@EchoLogic give me a hint what is different.
 
@chozilla can you see the imgur URL's I've linked?
 
user4433485
Someone with experience how to add watermark? i've got tutorials and stuff like that but not sure how to get it working into my function
 
10:20 AM
yes
 
take a look at the thumb_small and thumb_large properties and their filetypes
On the server, they are (correctly) appended with a .jpg file type. On my client, they've magically assumed a .gif file type
 
@EchoLogic but you only use strings there? no magic function in between to put it in the DOM and take it out again or something? just strings send in an php-array => js-object?
 
@chozilla It's AJAXed across. I'm using Laravel
 
I just have to say it ... phar is pharking awesome!
 
the problem is the raw returned JSON indicates it's a string ending in 'gif', whereas on my server it's a string ending in 'jpg'
 
10:26 AM
@EchoLogic Check the body of the ajax-request that your browser receives.
 
@EchoLogic it it is gif, your php script fuckes up, if it is jpg then your javascript fucks up
 
original image is a gif. uploaded as a gif, then Imagick takes it and makes two jpg thumbnails from it.
 
@EchoLogic please check the body of the ajax
 
@chozilla How do I do that? FF is formatting it automatically into an object
Just checked the AJAX body in Chrome. It's returning a string with 'gif'
 
10:29 AM
@EchoLogic use firebug, go to network and look at the plain tab of the request.
 
"thumb_large":"media\/large\/155966405eecf34.54916623.gif","thumb_small":"media\‌​/small\/155966405eecf34.54916623.gif"
This really doesn't make sense.
 
@EchoLogic without your php code it will be just guessing whats going wrong.
 
@SergeyTelshevsky lol! Funny as fuck
 
@chozilla Well, the final line of my PHP code, where I threw a breakpoint, is this: return Response::json(['objects' => $objects]);
$objects clearly shows it as having properties with a 'jpg' string ending
 
@EchoLogic Sounds like MIME types issue?
 
10:33 AM
@SilentEcho It's a string... shouldn't make a difference?
 
@PeeHaa it's funny, but it's really something more realistic. Though it seems it's used in all of the wii/kinetic systems so imo it's not an innovation of any kind
 
@EchoLogic Would need to see the JS code but it could just be the browser trying to be smart.
 
@SilentEcho @chozilla never mind, my fault :P
 
@SergeyTelshevsky now i want to make a promotion video for my game too. >_<
 
Laravel is mutating it :P
 
10:35 AM
@EchoLogic The problem with magic, right there.
 
@SilentEcho hehe
 
Anonymous
@SergeyTelshevsky I think @PeeHaa was talking about the graffiti aha
 
To be fair, I should've checked my accessors first
woo. I feel stoopid now.
 
@EchoLogic Nah, happens to everyone when dealing with frameworks
 
@SilentEcho What, sudden fits of rage and/or vomit fountains?
 
10:40 AM
morningz
I get a day off, for independence day weekend ... even though I'm English ...
gonna talk with a recruiter at facebook this afternoon ...
 
@JoeWatkins how many vacation weeks do you have per year?
 
officially, I think it's 30 days ...
and all american public holidays
 
I think I used 5 days last year ...
so I'm trying to work out what kind of things a recruiter would have to say to convince me that I should uproot family and move across the country again ... nothing is really coming to mind ...
except that I don't have to uproot anything or move anywhere and I can work remotely, but I know they don't do that ...
 
@JoeWatkins who facebook?
 
10:53 AM
yes
 
Really? I thought they did allow remote.
 
oh yeah, but not every day
 
Woot! Got a bug bounty for Facebook!
 
But typical relocation package should include a one time bonus and if it's a big company they do sometimes pay for and arrange your travel and temporary housing. That's what Yahoo did for me anyway.
 
I'm sure someone told me you have to be in the office three days a week
well it's not really me I'm worried about, I only moved my kids school just over a year ago
@ircmaxell cool
 
10:55 AM
Yea, relocating your family usually makes it a lot more complicated.
 
it does ... but in 6 months we're going to have to move anyway, I was hoping to not have to go far, but maybe if the right things were said I'd change my mind ... it's worth having the conversation anyway ... first and foremost it has to be interesting, like really interesting ... or come with almost total freedom ...
 
@JoeWatkins You know Digital Ocean allows full-time remote. They feel talent is hard enough to come by that they will let you work remote.
Those guys are getting big.
Getting in before those guys hit their IPO would be a huge win if you negotiate the right vesting schedule ;)
 
I know some of those words.
 
Wait, which words?
 
oh oh, IPO means a different thing in the UK, or it means two things ...
you mean before they are publically traded shares ...
 
11:03 AM
Yes, IPO = Initial Public Offering
 
IPO is the name for intellectual property office ... so I didn't know what you meant ...
yeah looked it up ...
 
Ahh, my bad.
Yea, anyway, they're working on some pretty interesting stuff. Plus their engineer to server ratio is kinda shocking. I went to their NY office and was surprised to learn they had grown so big with so few engineers.
IaaS is where it's all at these days, it seems.
(Infrastructure As A Service) in case that one's not universal either :)
 
user3961151
Hi. I have the same error buy I didn't understood the answer. Can someone help me?
 
user3961151
1
Q: PHP error: open_basedir restriction in effect

AntonI using this Yubico authentication PHP class: https://github.com/Yubico/php-yubico. I create php file test.php with this code: <?php require_once 'Auth/Yubico.php'; $otp = "ccbbddeertkrctjkkcglfndnlihhnvekchkcctif"; # Generate a new id+key from https://api.yubico.com/get-api-key/ $yubi = ne...

 
yeah there's probably some interesting stuff going on there ...
 
11:12 AM
@GINCHER The answer is reasonably clear.....how do you imagine someone being able to help you when a clear answer has already been given?
 
user3961151
@Danack What should I write in the php.ini? As you can see, my English is awful...
 
Your english is still fine. The personal issue you are facing is that programming is sometimes hard, and in those cases you need to just sit down and think about stuff. Or try doing stuff at random, and seeing what sticks.
I'm guessing you could just disable to open_basedir setting in your php.ini file.
If someone else set PHP up for you, and would object to you disabling that security setting, you need to make the file be inside the directory that PHP is being restricted to.
 
user3961151
Disabling means adding ; at the beggining?
 
user3961151
Because if so, it's already disabled
 
I've noticed that when programming you loose abstraction and you get more focus on doing the things. And then in a discussion or in front of a blackboard/whiteboard you can again go back to abstraction
 
11:18 AM
You might be editing the wrong file. If you look in phpinfo, I believe it may tell you which ini file PHP is actually using in there. Or you might just need to restart your webserver.
 
s/loose/lose
 
user3961151
@Danack It's the right INI file by phpinfo()...
 
and you've restarted the webserver?
 
user3961151
Why? I didn't made any changes
 
user3961151
It was already disabled
 
11:22 AM
@ziGi loose means it's not firmly in place, as in this light bulb is loose. lose means to no longer have something; as in I don't know how I lose my keys...
 
@GINCHER are you sure you're having the same error - can you pastebin the error message.
 
@Sherif thank you, for the explanation, I actually knew it, just that I was in a hurry, you grammar nazzi
 
user3961151
Warning: require_once(): open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/var/www/html/core/classes/mysqli.php) is not within the allowed path(s): (/home/admin/:/tmp/:/var/tmp/:/usr/local/php56/lib/:/usr/local/php54/lib/:/usr/local/php55/lib/:/usr/local/lib/php/) in /home/admin/domains/guerra.co.il/public_html/core/init.php on line 35

Warning: require_once(/var/www/html/core/classes/mysqli.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in /home/admin/domains/guerra.co.il/public_html/core/init.php on line 35
 
okay - something is turning open_basedir on.....you need to find what.
 
If you are not willing to hire remote developers, you are literally hurting your own business by limiting yourself to mediocrity #remoteWork
Looks like Ocramius is getting all 'private constructors' again
:-D
 
user3961151
11:26 AM
@Danack But here is something odd: This error shown when I try to require in the init.php file, but I'm in the index. That means that the require_once 'core/init.php'; worked
 
@GINCHER Which would make sense since it's in the open_basedir path
 
@Jimbo nah - he's leaving his current contract, and wants to find someone to replace himself, so that he doesn't leave the current company in the lurch, but they don't hire remote staff.....and there's a tech boom in Bristol.
 
So it's not really odd
 
@Jimbo lolwut
 
@Danack Yeah, I definitely felt there must have been some overarching reason behind that
 
11:29 AM
@GINCHER Here's a hint. Assume everything you've done up until now is wrong and start over from scratch. Run <?php phpinfo(); in a script from the same server and look at in your browser. See where it says Loaded Configuration File? Is that the exact path to the php.ini file that you modified?
 
Why do some programmers wear suits on their pictures on LinkedIn? Who'd like to hire a programmer wearing a suit?
 
@ziGi Agreed. My team leads have said if someone came to an interview in a full suit, they'd likely say no
 
@Jimbo exactly
 
Sounds like such an ignorant thing to say. Let people dress how they want. You're not hiring them for their sense of fashion.
 
@ziGi banks.
 
11:31 AM
lol, they program in suits?
 
@Jimbo I wear suits
 
people are so ignorant, wearing suits to look important...
 
occasionally, not always - used to work in a "bank-like" environment. It kind of stuck
 
@Jimbo I have done that (depending on the company)
 
I think every company that makes you wear uniform are conformists and don't deserve me as their employee
 
11:34 AM
@ziGi When you have clients walking through your office, and you are looking after $50million of their money, not looking like a scruffy nerf-herder can give them reassuring feelings.
 
user4433485
Could someone help me with a very simple resize image? i've got a function and I need to edit it that it will resize image, for now it shows the images from database with the orginal format
 
Yes, they don't deserve that.
 
@Danack why do they go to the office to look at the devs?
 
@ziGi I agree. I also think that any company that prevents me from wearing a suite are conformists and don't deserve me as their employee either.
 
@Sherif exactly
 
11:35 AM
Because the devs need to be within speaking distance of the business devs to fix bugs within minutes to avoid losing shit loads of cash.
 
@ziGi some devs have more than one roles
 
so devs are losing respect to business devs
 
@Katherina You should write your question before trying to get someone to agree to help you. If you write it in notepad, and then copy + paste it in here, even if no-one can help you now, you will have the question written down and you will be able to re-use it elsewhere aka sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html
 
@ziGi Interesting, you said the same thing to the exact opposite view just 5 minutes ago :)
 
user4433485
@Danack Well if I have to make a question now I will get like 100 downvotes since I've got nothing yet for the resize, I simply don't know where to start
 
11:36 AM
I didn't say ask a question.
 
@Sherif no, not really, I said that it looks a bit pompous and I've worn suits and I know how uncomfortable they are. If someone comes to an interview dressed in a suit I'd assume he's trying to brown-nose me since he's a programmer. How's that appropriate?
 
I said write your stuff down in here, before trying to get someone to promise to help.
 
I think suits in general are something that gives you fake importance
 
7 mins ago, by ziGi
@Jimbo exactly
 
because people are in general used to them
 
user4433485
11:37 AM
it's a quite long code @Danack any good site to post it ? so I can link the url instead of the code
 
@ziGi Because it's the same exact thing as forcing someone to wear a suite.
 
pastebin
or gist.github.com
 
You are still transgressing on their prerogative
Their choice of wearing or not wearing something shouldn't be the basis of your decision to hire them.
 
And .....why is it long? if it's image resizing, the bit of code related to that shouldn't be that long....
 
That is pompous.
 
user4433485
11:38 AM
thanks @Danack, pastebin.com/DxTzqSsR
 
@Sherif so you are saying if I come naked to an interview you'd still hire me?
 
If you come to an interview without as much as a jacket... I'll think you are not serious. Do you think we are mechanics here?
 
@ziGi No, I'd definitely want you to wear something since if you get arrested for public indecency HR will not allow me to make the hire.
I just don't dictate what you wear.
 
user4433485
so I want to get a resize function in it but I don't know how and where to insert that? before uploading ? after ?
 
11:39 AM
I really hate this f*cked up world we live in, seriously
 
@Sherif You're wearing a suit to conform because you care about what other people perceive you as, which is fair enough
 
the easiest thing to do is ask whether they expect a certain attire for a job interview.
 
@Jimbo I don't wear suits, no, but if I did it would be my choice and that really has nothing to do with what other people think.
 
Some people sell their soul, some people don't.
 
@Katherina Googling for php how to resize uploaded image gives lots of seemingly correct tutorials. Which particular bit are you having trouble with?
 
11:41 AM
If the jobs says "wear a suit", you have to wear a suit or get another job
 
@iroegbu or climb the corporate ladder high enough so you can change the policy ;)
 
user4433485
@Danack I don't know how to add this into my functions, I have to use OOP as well, first time I use it and I feel quite confused about it
 
@Katherina who said you have to do OOP for that?
 
@Gordon yes! That... I was able to remove the tie part (for devs) in my former job.
 
Well I don't like that, if they expect me to conform to their standards, they better find someone better that does their job, I am not gonna conform just because they're gonna pay me salary and build their dreams instead of mine.
 
user4433485
11:43 AM
@Gordon My teacher :3
 
Okay - then you should read those tutorials, understand what they do, and then write some code. This is the standard way people learn how to do stuff.
 
@Katherina and did your teacher give you any introduction to OOP yet?
 
user4433485
No, only how to connect database with PDO and that's it lol
 
user4433485
Education in the Netherlands is quite bad if not terrible.
 
@Katherina high school or?
 
11:45 AM
@Katherina so your teacher set you up to fail
 
I come from Bulgaria, and I agree that their math education especially is quite stale compared to ours
 
user4433485
@Gordon They want us to learn how to google I guess
 
@Jimbo what picture Jimbo?
 
user4433485
Do I have to put it into the function saveImage or getImage?
 

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