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10:00 AM
@samitha 3v4l.org/KMjZk
 
in time I have stopped questioning whether the individuals, who make it into my ignore list, actually deserve it
 
Any joomla guy here?
 
@noobie-php no, we systematically eradicate them like any other type of vermin
 
/applaud
 
10:04 AM
@Patrick I like this better
 
@noobie-php ?
 
All hope abandon, ye who enter in
 
well i am noob at joomla and created a basic custom template, the template is visible in admin panel, but when i try to open the newly created template from admin panel i get An error has occurred.

500 Error loading form file
i am currently using Joomla 3.3.1
 
@noobie-php Sorry, you'd probably best ask this as a proper StackOverflow question. Nobody uses Joomla, or Drupal in here
 
500th error translates as "something went wrong" ... I am actually quite serious
 
10:08 AM
@noobie-php I'd suggest checking the permission of the file though.
 
look into webserver's error log , there should be some additional details about it
 
@jimbo: thanks gonna do that, still crossing fingers, @tereško: it didnt throw any specific error last entry is about 2 hours ago, @Danack, how to check permissions in Windows envoirment? coz in linux we can easily see and overwrite permissions.
 
it could be that you have disabled error_reporting (it's a parameter in php.ini configuration file)
 
@tereško: Error reporting is enabled.
 
if we just had uninstall plugins for drupal and joomla... :) @RonniSkansing
 
10:14 AM
another reason for 500th error can be an endless loop
either at webserver's redirects or within the code
 
@tereško writhing?
:P
 
fuck you too
and good morning
 
God morning to you too. Have you had your coffee yet? :D
 
nope
 
@Patrick hehe
@DaveRandom another way 3v4l.org/5lE1X
 
10:17 AM
@Jimbo You are still using React?
 
@DaveRandom Seedstream is, but TorrentPHP is a standalone library using Artax and I'm half way through letting it use AsyncClient this morning :-)
 
@RonniSkansing ?
 
Nevermind I misread something and made a faulty solution
lol
 
@Jimbo I still don't quite have the separation clear in my head as to how all these things interact with each other...
@RonniSkansing To what, sorry?
 
for the ping link to non-usefullness
 
10:20 AM
@RonniSkansing Yeh but what was the original ping in response to?
 
The subtract from tail of array
 
@DaveRandom So I'm thinking, websocket hits onSubscribe (via react / ratchet). This method will use a new Alert\Reactor and a new AsyncClient to fire off the request, which will return async and only on return will it call broadcast() to push it back down the pipe to the client. Simple :D
 
@Jimbo Sorry, let me look at it properly over lunch and get back to you. Will actuall do it this time :-P
 
@DaveRandom Cheers buddy, just so you know the actual sync data retrieval works and pushes it to the client's console.log in the latest commit I think (might need to console log it yourself)
 
@Jimbo What do I need to set up a working copy?
Presumably I can do it on my VPS?
 
10:26 AM
@DaveRandom transmission-daemon, a seedstream db table. Set up your mysql connection settings in config.yml. Then you can run vendor/bin/doctrine orm:schema-tool:create and that's it for your db stuff.
 
kk cool, I'll have a go and come back to you if I have any issues
@RonniSkansing Was not me...
 
If MySQL and similar databases are persistent storage, how do you call temporary storage like memcached and the hybrids like Redis (with persistence)?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky memcached is a cache. Anything with persistence is just persistent storage, the quick access caching layer is an implementation detail of the storage engine
 
.. I am sloooow today.. =] yea I can see that now.. =/ Think it would be best for me to focus on some fun code for a moment and get my head clear
 
@DaveRandom I see, so there's no special terminology for that?
 
10:35 AM
In the doctrine yaml configuration files I see a 'field' category 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time I see a 'columns' category, anyone know why this is?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky There's probably some made-up bollocks ones, but there's no functional difference between fancy high-speed things and a regular database. You put data in and you get data out and you can turn it off without losing data.
 
The way I used to do it was better. This doctrine thing has been giving me trouble since I started, it's far too bulky aswell
 
@DaveRandom ok, I'm just writing a letter and wanted to name things properly, if proper names exist
 
@DaveRandom Btw you'll need to insert a new user with the password: '$2y$10$WZStZ.CxibTkOrxb0fDV5uL2gahrdD4DeMjFmKWqTXLM6eZJqZtt6' ("password") - There's no registration form yet
 
@Jimbo Where presumably the actual value isn't relevant as long as it is produced by password_hash() ?
 
10:49 AM
@DaveRandom Yeah I suppose, just saves you from having to manually code the password hash stuff and then saving a new User to the database when you don't know Doctrine
 
@Jimbo ...or I could just generate a password and insert it manually... ;-)
 
@DaveRandom Sure. Uses bcrypt. Just wanted to save you time so you're less likely to go do something else again :-P
Oh, you'll also need a Server and Client object persisted in the db ... Just let me know when you get to this part and I'll copy paste you the code to store this.
 
@DaveRandom You totally need a dedicated service fo dat
;)
Wow this ticket kinda blew up: github.com/Room-11/Room-11.github.io/issues/18 :P
 
gg
@PeeHaa I can proudly name myself one of room 11 Do's
 
;-)
 
10:57 AM
I'm a DO as well
 
I'm in the camp of: meh either way is fine with me. :)
 
@PeeHaa People work on fridays? :D
 
And caturdays and sundays yeah :P
> We should add the button which posts Rebecca's link (only if it's Friday).
You want a plugin? :P
 
it's @Gordon to blame :D
finally, he had shown his true face. true troll face :p
 
11:03 AM
lol you drama queens..
 
^ :)
 
@AlmaDo So... you want me to Do you? I had no idea you felt this way...
 
@DaveRandom We all want you to do us
 
@DaveRandom Yeah, but be warned - there can be anything under the hood (that depends of my mood). So if you'll decide to eval - the consequences are your own :D
 
11:14 AM
hello,guys...
i am facing issue with exporting data from php script
 
@DaveRandom I don't think we're unfriendly ...
 
i try around 12-15 codes those give me same output like this..they just print csv or xls on browser screen ..here is my live link....hyperlinkserver.com/etutores/writecsv.php
can anyone guide me
any server / php.ini settings are there?
 
@Mark can't make sense of the question ... is there a question ?
 
sorry joe
i am using this code
this code works perfect ini my local wamp server...as i put it on server it shops working and give me out put directly on borser
 
@JoeWatkins I'm not saying everyone is all the time, but I've seen more or less everybody be less welcoming than they could be at some point. I'm not having a go and I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, I'm just saying that we could make more of an effort sometimes.
@Mark a) I don't see any good reason for that not to work, chances are the problem is somewhere else before that code is executed. This is probably because you have output buffering enabled by default on your local server but this is not the case on live. b) I also don't see any good reason for you to use output buffering explicitly in that code. You could just as easily output the headers and then output the file directly instead of generating the file before outputting headers
You need to examine the output at the byte level, check whether your files are UTF-8 encoded with a BOM, and check for any leading/trailing whitespace outside the <?php ?> tags
 
11:28 AM
@DaveRandom I couldn't have said that post better, nicely put
 
Which one, sorry?
 
Github
Tradishuns
 
orite
 
It's like, you're the dad and you've just told all the kids off lol
 
morning
 
11:31 AM
@Jimbo Will. Not. Happen.
 
@Jimbo Don't make me get my cane out... :-P
 
@NullPoiиteя morning you slacker :p where have you been? Oo
 
You'll have to remove me from the group if you want that moronic thing in the guidelines.
I don't mind humor. That's not humor, it's not funny, and I'm not the only one who thinks that.
 
^ ?
 
@AlmaDo i am fighting with history, geography,...........,law now a days :(
 
@NullPoiиteя yeah. I know. In fact, regulars here are slackers. If the person has not enough time for chat, then he's busy
 
@SecondRikudo what's wrong with that? regular funny trolling as I see..
 
@AlmaDo It's not funny, and it's not going to be in the guidelines.
 
@SecondRikudo huh? Will it? I had no doubt that it will be rejected
 
11:35 AM
I don't mind jokes in there. This is some nasty habit that has gone too far and swept too many people.
 
I thought it was just joke between us, the regulars..
but it won't be fun if it will be included, I think
 
could you guys suggest me any website where i can post resume for remote location job ....(for my sister )
 
depends of what kind is the job
 
@AlmaDo application/web development , she has knowledge of php,c++,c#,Java (intermediate) ..... scored 83%(college topper) in Master of Computer Application ......
 
so why don't try careers 2.0 ?
I can send an invitation, if you wish
 
11:45 AM
@AlmaDo i tried for me but never got replay .... thanks ,i have 5 invitation left ...
 
@NullPoiиteя well.. it may be difficult, I agree
I got three replies only for all the time
that's around 6 month
 
i got none ... from 15 application
 
@SecondRikudo humor that you don't get is still humor ...
 
hm - no, all three times I was invited
 
its far more better ... than my case
 
11:48 AM
I look there from time to time. May be I'll send my CV to some places too
 
after completing degree ... one thing i understand is that ...there isnt any use of it even if you have done it with honours ... :)
 
no. there is
 
@JoeWatkins I get it perfectly fine.
 
My opinion: all that degree will do for you (besides some basic knowledge) - is the knowledge of how to teach yourself. That's the most important thing
 
And like I said (many times now), it was fun at first. But it's getting out of hand.
 
11:53 AM
@AlmaDo true
 
yeah. I always see funny things here - but the most great thing about this room (in fact, this is one of the things, why I want to be it's member) - that if something isn't funny for even one person here, then it won't be used anymore and won't be discussed
5
so such level of respect is rare to find in any chat. I hope that will be as it is
 
what strange attitudes
 
bah.. ignore me (:
 
so guys n gals
how did the steam sale go ?
 
11:56 AM
Alright, I've been playing Civ V for 16 hours so far
 
@tereško my coworkers say latvia and russia got banned from buying some games
 
Postal 2
 
heh.. am I the only one who's playing blizz games? :D
 
@Jimbo you can ... :D
 
@AlmaDo I do
 
11:58 AM
@tereško My wallet is still recovering, but it was awesome
 
@SergeyTelshevsky which ?
 
Do you have FEZ?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky not my experience
 
btw, @SergeyTelshevsky I tried to create some sane tracker, but without debug_backtrace() and some other related wizardry (which smells like necromancy) it won't be possible
 
I think I didn't buy Civ5, because the expansion was not discounted ... not sure though
 
11:59 AM
@DaveRandom I'm going for lunch, but here's my attempt at an AsyncClientTransport. Would need a callable in there somehwere, not sure where
 
@tereško they say that for a couple of days now when you try to buy anything that's in your cart you simply get thrown out on the main page
@AlmaDo wow :(
 
@tereško I already played civ5 (pirated) and didn't like it, so I decided not to buy
Alright, meeting time. bbl
 
@SecondRikudo it was definitely different
also, I was more interested in Age of Wonders 3 ... but I will probably buy it next time
 
@AlmaDo but that's not bad if that magic gets used too, I really regret phpdbg is 5.4+
no, I regret I'm tied to 5.3 here
 
@tereško Did you get FEZ?
 
12:02 PM
@SergeyTelshevsky yeah. you should regret about 5.3 - not about phpdbg is for newer versions. Really - I can't imagine how could it be replaced with any PHP code
 
nope
 
I never really liked it
 
It's worth every penny
 
Fez is brilliant
 
12:03 PM
It's amazing
 
knock, knock. (interruption for a while) any ideas why there's no pictorial representation of facial expression (emoticon) in stackoverflow chat? :)
 
@Cecil because we all are serious old wrecks (:
 
@Cecil This be a question for Meta Stack Exchange
Although I would love github style icons
 
^ +1
we share same markdown, so that sounds sane
 
@AlmaDo and what's your blizz addiction?
 
12:05 PM
okay, you may continue
 
@SergeyTelshevsky D3 for now. Because I can spend little time for it and because it's a game for slackers
 
@AlmaDo I used to spend a lot of time on both, but currently I tend to play only some hours a week and it doesn't bother me no more
@AlmaDo I remember I quit after understanding the only thing I was doing was coding some addons :)
 
@SergeyTelshevsky same. Few hours per week. But that's good thing about that game - you can spend little time and still be "in shape"
@SergeyTelshevsky heh, no. I'm free from coding if I'm in game
 
@AlmaDo yes, rather hard with wow, but not impossible :)
 
well don't look at me. Again
<--- this guy is doing nothing whole day!
 
12:10 PM
@SecondRikudo I'll post this here as there's already enough dramas in that github issue - imho you really ought to avoid using the phrase "It's not professional.". Whenever I hear it, I always interpret it as "Someone did something I didn't agree with, but I can't actually express a legitimate reason why they shouldn't do that."
e.g.

Programmer who never has any customer contact doesn't wear a suit to work - oh how unprofessional.

Someone has their job outsourced, can't be arsed to fly out to Bumfuck Nowhere to train the new people how to do his job - oh how unprofessional.
People like a music video that you don't like - oh how unprofessional.

If you have a legitimate reason to disapprove of someones actions you should be able to express it a lot more clearly than just calling it 'not professional'.
 
I started working in enterprise-like company this february after some startups, and now I understand how people spend so much time on FB and other sites
 
FB = ? facebook ?
 
I never go to work in a suit.. And I have lots of customer contact..
 
@AlmaDo yes
 
As long as you don't look like a hippie, nobody cares? :)
 
12:12 PM
@AlmaDo in your case it may be vk :)
 
@Naruto Some places make programmers wear suits...even when they have no customer contact at all...
 
@AlmaDo as at the previous job, it was a good day if I didn't have overhours :)
 
@SergeyTelshevsky vk .. ? hm?
well, I'm not a guy for social networks..
 
@Danack Well that's just... bad?
 
Yes. very very bad.
 
12:14 PM
@AlmaDo vkontakte
 
@SergeyTelshevsky already got it, yes. well, I have no account there or in facebook
 
@Danack in some banks here even IT support has to wear suits, while crawling under desks...
 
I'm allowed to come to work in short pants and t-shirt, I just have to make sure when I have custumor contact, I wear a long pants and at least a .. shirt?
 
@AlmaDo I have only to stay connected to some people
 
@Danack Our company even has a swimming pool, so in the summer we are allowedto go for a swim, even come in swim suit ^^ TAKE THAT :D
 
12:17 PM
@SergeyTelshevsky it's not bad or good. It's only about - use those sites or not. That happened so I'm not using them (:
 
@AlmaDo yes
 
@Naruto there is yellow stuff in the pool.. =[
 
*imagining @PeeHee in a swim suit*
 
@RonniSkansing It better be beer then :D
 
Wow
and it's website
secure as fuck that they even have error reporting on prod
 
12:25 PM
Well. Error reporting is not a bad thing. Even in production.
 
Not that way
 
@salathe Eurgh
 
pretty error handler though
 
it's laravel
 
no I don't think so
ah but laravel uses it
 
12:29 PM
the cms is laravel based, but laravel itself uses "whoops"
yeah
 
haha
 
@Jimbo so I just clone seedstream and composer install?
 
@DaveRandom Hopefully :D
Then update dev.yml, create database, then run vendor/bin/doctrine orm:schema-tool:create
 
@salathe I imagined more images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/… (less SFW)
@Jimbo Word of advice: go for something more like dev.sample.yml, and add dev.yml to .gitignore. Makes it much more difficult to accidentally commit you actual config. Actually personally I would have config.yml as the name of the real cfg file.
Well personally I wouldn't use yaml for anything ever, but that's your mistake to make :-P
 
12:42 PM
@DaveRandom Agreed (on the .sample) - I'll do this closer to release, along with docs etc
Make sure transmission-daemon settings have rpc enabled
 
why yaml is used in php projects anyway? what are the benefits over php config files or json?
 
^ yaml sounds like you're a pro
 
Some people like it better or are used to it
 
@SergeyTelshevsky I like the format for readability. It's primarily preference
 
Bleh
 
12:46 PM
@SergeyTelshevsky The benefits are you can make your config files unreadable and make people more likely to make mistakes because of their editors whitespace settings.
Oh no wait, they're dis advantages /cc @Jimbo :-P
 
Ah screw you guys, stop with the yaml hate :P
 
lol
 
significant whitespace is the root of all evil
 
@Jimbo no offense, I'm just curious
 
annotations is the root of all evil
 
12:48 PM
Every time you're pressing tab instead of using 4 spaces, remember - there's a bullet flying right in your direction per each missed space
 
I tend to use technologies that are the most native to the language I'm using, that said, any PHP developer will surely know how to use configs in php arrays, and most likely json, while I remember all the WTF in my head when I saw doctrine's configs :)
(yaml for the first time)
 
LONG LIVE XML!
 
@DanLugg XML for config sucks, unless the purpose of putting it in that format is for auto-provisioning systems, then it starts to make a bit more sense (IMO)
 
12:52 PM
@DaveRandom I like all the prospects of hierarchical, validatable data.
I won't argue that for config, it can suck, but that's why any sane system will have adapters for XML, INI, JSON, poop-on-a-stick, etc.
They are, for the most part, in some way or another all convertible to one another
 
@SergeyTelshevsky I'm not a fan of YAML, but that has to be an error
 
@DaveRandom I think it's only with Zend_Config
 
@DanLugg Ahh yes, the poop-on-a-stick format. I've found it way too easy to get into sticky situations with that format.
 
@DanLugg Lol. That sentence just screams for a github repo
 
12:55 PM
do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it.
 
@SergeyTelshevsky Yeh that's what I mean, that benchmark is pretty meaningless. That must be either that guy's local system screwing up or a bug in the YAML parser version he was using.
 
@DaveRandom I think that would be interesting thing to benchmark
 
holy moly dat stars
Staph it please :P
 
DAFUQ
srsly, who dunnit?
 
1:02 PM
time to go home, see you
 
Wow tha UX doesn't really work for mayhem like this
 
@DaveRandom Need a vhost?
 
@AlmaDo Downvoted.
=P
 
@SecondRikudo he-he. That's why it was "review" :D
In general I'm now lazy to post answers
 
@SergeyTelshevsky If you're not caching your config in an in-memory cache, then you're doing it wrong (tm).
 
1:15 PM
@PeeHaa You missed some stars
Possible the one before it too; dunno if legit.
 
lol
I can't see stars from here (:
 
Too bad the chat room modding doesn't have finer grained capabilities delegation; I'd gladly be only a star-nazi.
lol, "star-nazi"... hitler in space.
 
Oh, since owners list was cleared, I don't care, actually. If respected people here don't want to see someone (including myself) as an owner - so be it, I trust the judgement
 
Anyone know if PHPstorm allows you to bind a keypress to run programs? e.g. I want to be able to just press command+T to run my unit tests, rather than having to select the unit test in the drop-down, then run it by clicking the little arrow.
 
@DanLugg Did you see Iron Sky ?
 
1:20 PM
@salathe I sure as fuck am going to now.
lol
 
@Jimbo no I'm just figuring out the best way of doing what I want to do, speaking which...
 
In UFOlogy, conspiracy theory, science fiction, and comic book stories, claims or stories have circulated linking UFOs to Nazi Germany. The German UFO theories describe supposedly successful attempts to develop advanced aircraft or spacecraft prior to and during World War II, and further assert the post-war survival of these craft in secret underground bases in Antarctica, South America, or the United States, along with their creators. According to the limited available information on the UFOs, various potential code-names or sub-classifications of Nazi UFO craft such as Rundflugzeug, Feu...
I ... I don't even.
 
I'm guessing your ... did not lead to "Nazi UFOs"
@DanLugg Lovely timing, as usual :D
 
lol
 
@Danack I have cloned two github repos, one a dep of the other, both on packagist. If I want to install the dep from my clone instead of packagist, can I just add a repository for it to composer.json and it will prioritise that source higher than packagist?
(I know I could just try it but am lazy and you prob know off the top of your head)
 
1:24 PM
@DaveRandom Yes.
 
winner
composer does something sensible for once...
 
The specified repos take preference. Though if you're still using Packagist.....
btw this may also be handy:
"dave/somepackage": "dev-abcdef123127612387618 as 1.0.0"
 
ThW
@Danack by default shift+f10 is "run"
 
Installs the exact commit abcdef123127612387618 and treats it as version 1.0.0
@ThW That seems to turn my volume off :-)
 
ThW
@Danack open the Run menu
 
1:28 PM
@DanLugg tnx
 
@PeeHaa Thank you sir :-)
 
@ThW Thanks - it's option-shift-f10 on a mac....though I was hoping to be able to bind a key press to run a specific program. That just opens the 'select which program to run' dialogue box.
Or runs the currently selected one.
(I think the key binding is actually broken on my Mac)
 
@Danack I've seen that notation before, why is the as <version> necessary? For other deps to consider their requirement satisfied?
 
no no, it is just how a Mac works
(shiny brokenly)
 
Also can I point it at a named branch without specifying a specific commit?
 
1:31 PM
@DaveRandom Yep, so you can install a specific commit to test a bugfix in a library, before tagging a new version.
 
ThW
@Danack Never tried, but i think it should be possible to add the comment to the "External Tools" configuration and add a Shortcut to the Keymap
 
@DaveRandom Yes , you can with just dev-someBranchName. btw Composer only looks at the default (usually master) branch for the composer.json, so weird things can happen.
 
ThW
@Danack Yes, that works.
 
@Danack when I am dealing with composer, weird things usually do happen
 
@DaveRandom Yeah. npm is the best thing since sliced bread.
 
cool shit @ThW
 
ThW
:-)
 
can you rotate the 2nd screen 90 deg?
 
@FlorianMargaine Never actually tried to "publish" stuff with it (even as private deps) so I can't really comment on whether it's better than composer at the issue I currently have, but certainly when I've just been fetching some already-existing deps it seems to be pretty good
 
ThW
@RonniSkansing yes
 
1:39 PM
damn
how much did it all cost you
 
@DaveRandom npm just duplicates dependencies, so it has more disk size used, but far less dependencies issues.
 
@ThW Yep, that works great. Command-T for great testing.
 
@FlorianMargaine Ahh yes, well you can do that in JS, doesn't work in PHP because of naming collisions
 
ThW
the power pack is about 100 €, the monitor 175 €
 
@DaveRandom yup. Node modules are just "recursively go up until you find node_modules/ and the module you want in it"
 
ThW
1:43 PM
A surface starts at 799 € + 130 € for the type cover
 
well It is the nicest mobile workstation I have seen in a long time
 
@DaveRandom Tbh I think package management is one of those things that just can't have a purely technical solution. When the dependencies get complicated enough, a human needs to be involved to figure out which packages should be installed, or even just which packages do we trust to be installed. Although Packagist is a great attempt to solve the package management problem, it is at it's heart a purely technical solution...so inevitably things weird or can't cover every scenario.
 
@ThW How much does it weigh?
 
1:46 PM
Hi
 
ThW
@SecondRikudo The Surface Pro 2 is about 1kg (with the cover), haven't checked the whole package yet.
 
everyone go back to work ...
 
ThW
The monitor is for working in a Hotel room or from a customers office.
 
Looks cool... but isn't it cheaper and more compact to get a laptop?
 
ThW
1:50 PM
@iroegbu the surface pro is a laptop (a core i5), but with a detachable keyboard, touchscreen and digitizer
 
I got so much work to do.
And here I am looking at humble bundle's
 
I know but for that price I can get an ultra book, not the multi-monitor though
 
ThW
@iroegbu That IS an ultrabook
 
the Surface Pro3 is my target though
 
ThW
@iroegbu Yeah, I already preordered one :-)
 
1:53 PM
@iroegbu You could probably get an ultra book, and an iPad for the same price as a Surface 3
 
Why not a macbook
?
 
@Jimbo what is the link for? much wadapress..
 
@RonniSkansing A company called "Your Right Hand"
 
lol yes I noticed..
 
1:57 PM
@Danack I don't like iThings.
 
ThW
@RahulKhosla The Surface Pro is much more versatile
 
@ThW Retina display?
 
@iroegbu iAgree
iRoegbu
 
ThW
@RahulKhosla SP 2 has full hd on 10.6", the SP 3 a higher density at 12"
 

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