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9:00 PM
So guys it work
 
@Fabien Essentially yes. I personally like to make my SQL as close to standard as possible for portability, although in practice that argument is rarely relevant
 
I will learn new SQL soon :)
 
good to knows, I have been plastering them everywhere! I'll stop now.
 
@LeviMorrison idk if I've ever done that, tbh. Well, I have done it, but I generally realise this early on, at a point where it's not too difficult to change it.
 
@TomášAresakMalčánek Glad to hear it; now fix your vulnerabilities ^^
 
9:02 PM
^ that
:-)
 
@JoeWatkins wtf is this :p or this
 
Yay Options Indexes
 
:)
 
Options None ftw
 
second one is greater
 
9:10 PM
Hey guys, is anyone of you capable of setting up Redmine on a Plesk server? I offer this as a job with payment.
 
gay
 
dude...
 
:(
 
what ?? it's a turn of phrase ..
 
Grand
 
9:11 PM
oh noes, now we know it's using Kohana!!!
 
@salathe he-he-he
 
when was -Indexes removed ?
 
@AlmaDo lol Kohana.
 
@salathe it;s also using Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu) Server at phpdbg.com Port 80
 
@JoeWatkins if by gay you mean happy/jolly then yes, very gay indeed.
 
9:12 PM
@AlmaDo yes
@AlmaDo my point being, who cares?
 
@DanLugg well, that's beta, I hope
 
@igorw let's all be gay together. :)
 
@JoeWatkins I have a gay mate who regularly uses it in the pejorative, but it's a bit :-X for teh internetz IMO. It's too open to misinterpretation.
 
@DanLugg yeah… Kohana… sad…
 
just spell it "ghey" next time
 
9:13 PM
Not that I really care, but I think Kohana is a bit nutty for it's ->getOrMaybeSetItDepends() methods.
 
How can we desensitize it unless we use it though?
 
I'm not sure if that's the right question. That's a bit like saying we should all start dropping the N bomb
 
@Fabien *childish grin*
 
lol
@DaveRandom I personally am of the opinion we should. Not that I do but I believe it'd be the right course of action.
 
I'm not saying it's right for words to be off limits like that but there is a reason they have the connotations and those reasons should not be forgotten
 
9:16 PM
The only thing that makes a word taboo is the fact we call it taboo.
 
I got a sister with a bigger power tool collection than me, she's a pretty big lesbian, and a brother with her dress collection, camper than Alan Carr ... it's a turn of phrase ...
 
@DaveRandom But before Gay was gay it was happy.
 
no it wasn't
 
Did this just turn into the YouTube comments section?
 
@Fabien Now, maybe. But you can't let society forget how it got that way, or we risk things like that happening again.
 
9:17 PM
I think it used to be used derogatively ...
 
Situational/Contextual usage > my own beliefs. I get that.
 
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A: Set PHP version in Netbeans 7 for non-project files

Timothy PerezI recently did an update to my NetBeans (v7.0.1). I just tried creating a lambda fn and the IDE didn't show any warnings/errors. Try updating your NB.

^^ easiest 500 points ever
 
I love how any clip I ever think of is on Youtube
 
@cheesemacfly ...wow
 
There's plenty of words we use that we don't know are rude :)
 
9:19 PM
used kohana 'cause I had everything done nicely, it allowed us to setup site in less than half day
and it's a fresh server, so...
 
Orchid and Vanilla are two.
 
Orchid is from the Greek for vagina isn't it?
(which, incidentally, is not a rude word)
 
Vanilla is from the latin word vagina
 
brilliant
 
Neither Orchid and Vanilla are on topic
 
9:21 PM
Orchid is testicle
 
Oh that's right
 
Can you guess what "Seminar" comes from? pun intended
 
The mind boggles...
 
@LeviMorrison You seem to have forgotten what day it is... :-P
 
9:23 PM
the chatroom pact says nothing about etymological discussion
 
$orchid = 'testicle';
 
throw $hit; // code was written by a monkey
 
Okay, so PHP (ish) related. Anyone willing to spare the time to go over how they would achieve one of my work tasks? :P approach/pseudo code style. I
 
Sounds remarkably like asking if you can ask a question... :-P
 
It's a big ask so I feel it more appropriate to ask if someone has the time.
And implies (hopefully) that it wouldn't be in this room as to not spam chat.
 
9:28 PM
@Fabien 9:29pm
 
Your watch is fast
 
Good point.
 
@DaveRandom unixtimestamp.com is fast!
 
wtf NIST is disagreeing with ntp.org E_PEBKAC
 
What is a good term for classes, interfaces and traits?
 
9:42 PM
@NikiC "things stored in a zend_class_entry"?
 
@NikiC stuructures
Oh, and it's official. I am funemployed!
 
@ircmaxell that'd eventually include arrays
 
Context: github.com/nikic/PHP-Parser/pull/80 => That uses the term ObjectDefinition, which is really bad imho
 
ClassDefinition?
 
@NikiC ClassComponents?
 
9:44 PM
@ircmaxell That sounds like classes only ... ^^
 
yes, but we're only talking classes
we're not talking objects
 
yes, sure
I'd usually refer to interfaces and traits as classes as well, but I think that would be rather confusing there
 
might be easier if we see in context, write the sentence as it is now ...
 
... okay I'm fed up now
Will have to write a BC Policy RFC
people clearly are incapable of understanding that "no BC breaks" is a statement with zero meaning
 
@ircmaxell welcome to the club
 
9:48 PM
I guess it doesn't break bc for them, they assume it doesn't for the other millions of users ...
 
@ircmaxell I'll join to your club soon :p
 
@ircmaxell background?
 
To evolve there need to be small and more small BC breaks … and finitum.
 
My department was shut down. So today I was given a package. I am employed until Jan 31. My rolenow is to find myself a new job. And if it is outside the company, I get the full package, no matter when I leave...
 
Yay!
 
9:50 PM
It's sad that such things need a RFC…
 
Lot better than kthxbai @ircmaxell :D
 
@ircmaxell so that's ... good?
 
So basically, i have 2.5 months to do what I want. Then I get a nice check saying thanks...
 
nite all, sleep now ...
 
nite
 
9:51 PM
@ircmaxell So basically, free money?
(potentially)
 
Yup, very good. Basically like hitting s small lottery. Up to a 10 week vacation paid, followed by a large lump sum...
I need to figure out where I want to go...
 
google? :)
 
Night @JoeWatkins
I hear MS is good.
 
It is an option...
 
Oracle!!!
 
9:53 PM
Staying in NYC?
 
:P
 
By far not the only one. And may not even be the best one. I don't know. I need to start looking. But I will enjoy a bit first ;-)
Ok!! I am off to party tonight! Later all!
 
bye, @JoeWatkins @ircmaxell
 
f* me, right
 
@webarto I'd still hire you.
You can come live in my office if you like.
 
9:56 PM
Oo
 
Look after the cat when the wife and I are away.
 
I think you got "cat" and "wife" the wrong way round
 
lol
 
Just curious, in php 5.4 public className() {} works as constructor anymore?
 
10:04 PM
alright
 
@JonyKale only in non-ns code
 
non-ns?
 
Non-namespaced.
 
Ah
 
Which is why I simply said no.
lol
 
10:05 PM
Anyone use PHPStorm?
 
@BobGregor like half the chatroom does
 
nice ;-) I've been beaten down by Eclipse for the last time
 
I like it. Better than NetBeans for sure. I've only used Eclipse a tiny bit so I'm not qualified to speak there.
 
nothing beats Frontpage or Dreamweaver though =oD
 
@crypticツ nothing beats vim
 
10:15 PM
I used Dreamweaver 8 and it was... okay. Hate me if you want, but it was k.
 
@LeviMorrison It was ok, but there are better IDEs. (the only problem was it bid too much superfluous functionality)
 
@BobGregor I do. I like it; I didn't, and probably wouldn't, buy it for $100 but I did get it for $25 and feel like it is worth that price for what I use it for
 
@BobGregor I use PHPStorm (more for JS though)
 
Jay
10:34 PM
Hey guys
 
I've gone and lost my mind! 3v4l.org/PJktm
 
Jay
@DanLugg you kool?
 
Recursively parse all the things!
 
PhpStorm > NeatBeans > Sublime Text 2 > Stone & Chisel.
 
windows notepad > all
 
10:38 PM
@JonyKale lol, they see me trollin'
 
Hello allz
is there any one here who know how to call a Java script method in php code without an event?
 
@Fabien I've heard people rate Sublime Text 2 over NetBeans. (I have no experience with ST 2)
 
I put it above based on it's project features. Also debugging.
I actually converted from Netbeans to Sublime Text 2
I'd install Sublime for loading a single file.
 
so, I guess you have not used it's search functionality =P
 
10:55 PM
@Fabien :D
 
damn
 
dang it
what?
 
it so annoying when people confuse "it's" and "its" ... especially if I am the one doing the confusing
 
I confuse it only when 1.) drunk 2.) tired
 
That, to be fair, is an oddity of English. Logically there could reasonably be an apostrophe in the possessive version.
 
10:59 PM
does facebook have their own compiled php version?
 
Google "HHVM"
 
@JonyKale le famous question Are you facebook?
 
ye
 
@tereško Yeah. It was one of the reason I kept using Sublime.
 
11:01 PM
have you added cTags package ?
 
Negative.
I had something similar, CodeIntel.
Super useful.
One of the reasons I switched from Sublime was that they would charge me the price of a whole new license to upgrade.
I'd happily pay the difference. But not a whole new one.
 
11:46 PM
Could anyone please have a look at a PHP related question I have posted? I haven't gotten any helpful responses yet, while the question being post isn't to difficult: How would I find and label differences between two multidimensional arrays? stackoverflow.com/questions/20010538/…
 

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