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@TimPost can you please support me in here with @ChrisClower. I think he needs a timeout.
 
I'm trying to access wsdl file by SoapClient class
but facing an error
 
Can we please stop acting immature now?
 
can any one help me to figure out the issue
 
8:19 AM
that tends to happen in most highly technical rooms... sometimes the questions asked are so complicated, they are better meant for actual Stack Overflow questions and not chat questions.
 
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whoa
 
wow. I only showed up because of all the flags being thrown. @ChrisClower... just relax for a bit okay? I'd rather see competent and technical people here, not trolls.
and I know you mean well.
 
listen, then why is everyone flaming me when i try to help people?
even when my answers are helpful and accepted
 
where are they flaming you? here or on the main site?
 
8:21 AM
@ChrisClower the better way to help other is give answer of there question...
 
it sounds like Chris is trying to give answers there, @Database_Query
 
then suddenly "you recommended jquery? you're an idiot. codeigniter? explains why you suck"
i really didn't ask for this
i just want to help people with questions
 
@ChrisClower no one was flaming you. We just didn't agree that Json is superior to XML. That's it. Now get over it please. I've politely asked you multiple times now.
 
that was at the end
that was a discussion between devs not a question
that's my opinion only
 
well don't get all worked up about stuff... I get called all sorts of names and get downvotes semi-often, but you won't see me getting worked up into a frothy temper.
 
8:23 AM
it wasn't even close to what led to the flaming
not the start nor the end
 
Hi Chris
 
hi
i'm sorry to those new to the room right now
 
Morning, looks like douchbaggery is in full swing already :D
 
Can you help me to figure out some issue related using SOAP by PHP
?
 
i'm not trying to make a bad impression or troll, but some people have been picking on me all night
 
8:24 AM
Phalcon has updated docs on Using Dependency Injection
 
well just relax. I'll stay here for a while and watch what transpires. If you get picked on, I will call it out (and flag it).
I'd rather see you as a positive contributor, not a furious non-participator.
 
Well, flaming is over now. Everyone cool down. Everyone behave. I don't have time nor desire moving messages to bin all day or call mods for support.
 
@hakre Wasn't Phalcon the "framework" that was just a bunch of other peoples stuff glued together? I remember the name, but not the context
 
they already said they flagged me, so i'll probably get banned anyway because i got mad and said things
 
@Gordon Awww, I missed it :(
 
8:25 AM
@Leigh maybe, but they port it to C as well so you can just have it fast.
 
he deleted a whole bunch of stuff, yeah
 
No I can see the deleted messages, I meant I missed taking part.
 
but you didn't need to read it anyway
oh
 
Can any one help me to figure out the issue of SOAP?
 
it was mostly people bashing me and me getting pissed lol
 
8:27 AM
Never one to turn down a good troll me.
 
i'll give it a shot
not a huge SOAP expert, but maybe we can figure it out
let's give it a shot
 
@ChrisClower I thought I could smell something ;D .. ok ok.. I had my shot, I'll go do some work now
 
i had that coming
:D
 
This reminds me of IT class at school when I couldn't figure out a formula in Excel, I just typed in all of the calculated values manually, then my teacher came along and hit the show formulas key. stackoverflow.com/questions/12742257/…
 
left myself open for that one
 
8:29 AM
I'm using SoapClient to access WSDL file and I'm facing an issue
 
"yeah i don't really use soap so i totally stink, so what's this soap thing anyway?"
 
I'm also beginner of using SOAP
 
yeah... hmmm... i don't know what WSDL is :S
 
@MrCode You know how downvoting works right? See a terrible answer, hit the down arrow.
 
WSDL is web service file
to access API data
 
8:31 AM
@Dhaval I doubt people in here use SOAP much but unless you tell us what the issue is or link us to an existing question on the main site explaining your issue we cannot help you.
 
give me a crash course on how to lather up and what WSDL is lol
 
@MrCode and most of the time people will delete the answer and you get your rep back anyway ;)
 
I can post link of my question on stackoverflow
 
yeah you can use SOAP in php though
 
Wait pasting here
 
8:32 AM
but it's more common in like asp.net though
 
@Leigh I risked the rep with a down vote :)
 
@Dhaval if it's an existing question, just paste the link to it
 
@MrCode Worst case, he edits his answer and you can just remove it
 
@Dhaval if it's code, make sure you hit the Fixed Font button before sending the message. Otherwise we get eye bleeding. And please only paste the relevant parts.
 
Yes
I've pasted only my code and error I'm getting
0
A: Use SOAP for authenicated wsdl file

mondjungeYou try to load a file from httpS, a secured ssl http stream. (at least it says so in the error message) Who do you expect to do the confirmation of the key and certificate? Or have you already added the certificate from https://webservices.chargepointportal.net to your trusted keystore in the r...

Here is the link
 
8:34 AM
@Leigh if he edits the answer with all 1984 records manually updated then he should get an upvote :)
 
are you loading it from a secure connection?
 
Yes
 
@RegisteredUser would you mind giving me credit for the quote on your Meta profile by linking your Bio to chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/5565018#5565018 please? Thanks!
 
failed to open stream usually means a 404....
means the remote file might not be able to load
now, if you can load it in a web browser when visiting the address.....
 
8:36 AM
@Dhaval can you paste the output of print_r(stream_get_wrappers()); please.
 
that still doesn't mean your webserver can request it remotely
 
@MrCode You got your rep back already, don't be afraid to cleanse the stupidity with a bit of rep muscle flex.
 
Yes
 
Let me check on that
What is this Gordon?
 
8:39 AM
@Dhaval has nothing to do with your question. See What does cv-pls mean
@Dhaval can you paste the output of print_r(stream_get_wrappers()); please.
 
Your path_to_file() function can't open webservices.chargepointportal.net:8081/coulomb_api_1.1.wsdl
that's what it is
it's most likely an issue with how your server allows you to access remote files
you might need to find another way
 
@Dhaval I use soap, what's the issue?
 
i know because i've encountered a similar issue before with my server
 
@Gordon Ok
@MrCode Thank you
 
@Leigh thanks
 
8:42 AM
@MrCode I'm pasting the link of question
 
@Dhaval no, dont paste it again. @MrCode the link is up there.
 
Sorry Gordon
Sorry for pasting again.
Actually I'm beginner of using SOAP so bit confuse how to do that
 
it's exactly what i said it was
your function can't access the remote file
 
Why its happening?
 
@Dhaval the web server that is serving the WSDL is serving a 400 Bad Request for your link, therefore there is nothing you can do in your code to solve it. Contact the web service guys and ask for the correct WSDL.
 
8:45 AM
it's an issue with the server config that you will need to work around, hopefully someone here can help you with that
i don't know enough to help beyond that
 
@ChrisClower Hi
 
@Kanth hello
 
hello @Kanth
 
@RegisteredUser read it. Thanks. You are welcome.
 
8:46 AM
When I paste the web service link on my address
it was working
 
@ChrisClower You are still online! @MichaelDautermann Hello, how are you
 
yeah it's a valid url and file
 
I'm doing pretty good over here, just keeping busy coding @Kanth
 
your web sever is preventing you from opening it
 
@ChrisClower what's the time now there?
@MichaelDautermann Okay.
 
8:47 AM
@Kanth 4:48 am ;)
 
@Dhaval perhaps the WSDL you're looking for is webservices.chargepointportal.net:8081/coulomb_api_1.1.wsdl <-- note the L in wsdl, and https
 
@ChrisClower when do you sleep yaar? Night out or what?
 
@Kanth I don't sleep - I'm a freelance web developer ;)
 
@MrCode I'm using same wsdl file
 
the file is fine
 
8:49 AM
@ChrisClower @MichaelDautermann Here is a surprise from my side, Really coincidence.
 
look at the code and the error
 
@Dhaval that isn't the one you posted in your question. Your question uses http and is missing an L
 
it can't access it
his server is limiting access to the remote file
his server
there's no other explanation
 
Then how can we allow that file to access from server?
@MrCode Yes
My mistake
 
This morning I asked about the PHP things. Right? To my surprise our company got php project and it is declared just two hours ago. But to my bad, I am not into that project. Really we don't get what we want....... :(
 
8:50 AM
it fails to open the stream, the script can't access the file
 
I tried with the link you gave me recently
Its also not working
but
 
it's not a link problem lol
 
@Paul You there?
 
listen.
 
8:51 AM
and wtf, that guy with 40k rep answering it when it's a clear dupe
 
yes
 
your server isn't allowing you to access the remote file
 
How can we solve that?
 
beyond that, i don't know a workaround, but maybe there is one
some servers deny remote access under certain circumstance, on both sides
the local server and the remote
 
8:54 AM
OK
 
it's hard to say which one is denying
are you on a shared host?
 
Yes
@MrCode Do you have any idea?
 
ok some shared hosts do deny access to remote sever requests, but it depends on how it's made
it could also be the remote server denying your request for some reason
 
@MrCode Do you have any idea?
@Gordon I'll close that question, please first let me try
 
@Dhaval you can happily ignore all the links I post here until you have the necessary reputation to closevote. They are not meant for you.
 
8:59 AM
@Dhaval I think the problem is you don't have OpenSSL enabled in your php.ini and therefore it can't retrieve the HTTPS content. If you don't have access to the php.ini then you will have to contact your host and ask them to enable it.
 
@Dhaval He's not saying "please close it", he's saying "Please review this and see if it needs closing"
 
@MrCode well, the SSL wrapper is why I asked him to do print_r(stream_get_wrappers()); three times now.
 
@Gordon yeah it's definitely OpenSSL disabled.
 
@Leigh right
 
@MrCode There's also some strange errors you can get when OpenSSL versions greatly mismatch between client and server.
 
9:03 AM
Plus he had the wrong WSDL in the first place, OpenSSL or not, it will never work with the wrong link.
 
3
Q: Using HTTPS link with php methods (file_get_contents, getimagesize)

F2000I get a problem when I try to read some HTTPS url in my website. If I use "http", there is no problem (with file_get_contents and curl), but when I remplace "http" by "https", these methods don't work. I get some errors: failed to open stream: operation failed occured Failed to enable crypto ...

As a reference, if you see that error, there's your answer.
 
well, in any case it's just another fine example of
 
I might start writing the code in my answers with no whitespace, new members seem to think less characters == best answer
 
@MichaelDautermann you there?
 
can you believe it, @Kanth ?
 
9:13 AM
@MichaelDautermann nope. Because you are indifferent to my chat.
 
I'm not indifferent... we all get work we don't want to do, because that's the nature of having a job.
 
@MichaelDautermann Yeah. I understand. You said that you are busy with coding.
@MichaelDautermann Even I have work, but that stupid announcement made me feel sad and not making me work.
 
and you said you have received a project you are not excited to do, either @kanth
yep... sounds like you need to schedule a vacation!
 
@MichaelDautermann Nope. You got me wrong. I am dying for that and willing very much to do that project. But I am not into it.
 
ohhhh... it's the other way around!
 
9:20 AM
@MichaelDautermann hmmmmm... Now I am working on android. But I wanna shift into that php project. But they already declared members.
 
tell the boss and see if you can find a way to glom onto it.
 
what else? BTW may I know where you are from?
 
I live in San Francisco.
 
No way. I have never seen such a person with such temper.
 
9:22 AM
Nope ... My manager
boss
 
ohhhhh.. sounds like a very grouchy boss!
 
very.. It's really terrible if some one goes up and asks him something.
He makes ourselves feel doubt that even though there is nothing wrong about our information or concern.
 
I wonder how he became a boss while being so intensely grouchy?
 
Hmmmmmm.. talented but yet grouchy. :( Might be the talent that made him...
Late night. That much work pressure?
 
yessss, for me too.
 
9:29 AM
@MichaelDautermann Great. Glad I am able to chat with you even in your busy schedule.
 
Question for the Native Speakers: "During my research, I have come across" or "During my research I have come across"?
 
latter is better I think.
 
@MichaelDautermann better? so both are possible?
 
So do I
 
okay. thanks :)
 
9:32 AM
I usually don't care about commas and some simple things.
@MichaelDautermann You frequently come to this chat room?
 
ummm... I still think the latter one is better.
I usually put a comma where one might take a breath while speaking.
and I can't imagine taking a breath between "research" and "I"
 
@Gordon What follows it? "During my research I have come across several instances where blah blah" vs "During my research I came across the following:" <maybe bullet points>
 
nooo, this is my first time to this chat room. I was inspired to come here due to... um... a (hopefully temporarily) unhappy participant.
 
@Leigh During my research I have come across your IEEE papers on blah
 
I'd go for past tense (came), you did it in the past
 
9:35 AM
who me?
 
you have to leave the comma out I think it's not like in german.
 
@Leigh done. thanks for the suggestion.
 
"During my research I came across your IEEE papers on blah"
no problem
 
@hakre that's why I am confused ;)
 
well following this resource it looks much like in german: owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02
 
9:37 AM
@MichaelDautermann ?
 
@hakre hm, by that page the comma should be there because during my research is not a full sentence but a dependent clause
Now I am even more confused. Frigging commas
 
@Gordon during my research i came across very much sounds like a full sentence ;)
 
@Gordon How about a semi-colon ;D
 
@NikiC Resarch. During that you know. Can you imagine what I came across?
 
9:39 AM
@NikiC the main clause would be "I came across …", wouldnt it?
 
I came across your IEEE papers on blah during my research :)
 
@Gordon To be strict, yes the comma should be there.
 
@Gordon All of it is the main clause, isn't it? "during my research" is just a temporal something something, whatever they call it
 
How formal is this supposed to be? The only people who speak perfect english are Lawyers.
 
google is undecided on that either: google.de/search?q=during+my+research+comma
 
9:41 AM
@Leigh They speak lawyerish though :P
 
Hi Gordon
Sorry there were some technical issue
due to that I couldn't reply you
 
@Leigh well, I am about to formally request something from someone I have never spoken to before
 
@Leigh no they can decipher legal code, but that's it :)
 
I'll try with the way to test
 
@Gordon most english speaking persons know that not everybody is well with english,
 
9:42 AM
owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02 - 2b, it would count as an introductory phrase I guess, but as a native english speaker who doesn't strive for perfection. I wouldn't pick up on the lack of comma as a grammatical error
There is no harm in the comma being there, and it adds a logical pause to the sentence, you'll be fine having it there if you want it :)
But it's not a serious or generally noticeable error if it's not there.
 
ok, so a comma it is
thanks everyone
 
That's the problem with non-programming languages... they don't throw syntax errors :/
 
There is an english language stackexchange site I believe
 
@Leigh yeah, there is but I cannot be bothered to register to ask that
@NikiC write a parser ;)
looking forward for the BNF ;)
 
That's some good advice on the accepted answer.
 
9:47 AM
Look at that person who answered it. Might be we will change like him if we study the perfect English. :D
 
@tereško Thanks for finally providing a sane answer to that question
@tereško oh, and in the "Interaction with model from controller" code sample the naming is inconsistent. I.e. the properties used in create aren't the same that were previously delcared ;)
 
@NikiC tereško? where?
 
6
A: Dependency Injection: How to pass DB around?

tereško First of all: if you are creating a simple page, anything MVC-ish will be the wrong choice. Injecting the DB abstraction The core issue, that you should be solving here, is having same DB abstraction (for example PDO) instance shared between multiple objects. The best way to accomplish this...

 
hmmmmmm..............
 
@NikiC should be closed. I already gave a suitable dupe.
 
9:54 AM
@Gordon Whatever. I'm just glad somebody provided a reasonable answer, after all the other shit that was posted there
@Gordon Also I don't think that your dupe answers the question in any way
It's an abstract answer that is not particularly helpful in the concrete instance I think
 
A "give me teh codez" question
 
@NikiC Well, sure it's abstract, but I think it perfectly answers the OP's core problem. Have a Factory, assemble the Object Graph in it. Use it. Done. Sure @tereško has more concrete examples but it is also full of "this is how @tereško does stuff". Answer-wise, it has the same problem as stackoverflow.com/questions/5863870/…. Both answers feel oversized and quite cargo-cultish to me. Too many implementation details.
And I seriously dont understand why this chatroom is bountifying these questions so much.
 
hello i am getting the a:1:{i:0;s:1:&quot;c&quot;;} i have serialized it but the $quot; give me error when i have un-serialize how to get the a:1:{i:0;s:1:"c";}
 
International domain names just look fucked up... xn--zkc6cc5bi7f6e.xn--hlcj6aya9esc7a
 
10:10 AM
@Leigh amen
 
@Gordon :)
 
@Database_Query how did the entities get in there?
 
user50049
@Leigh Try implementing the registration of them, part of my current headache
 
@Leigh what the
 
@Gordon i dont know i am doing $tag= trim(serialize($_POST['tag']));
 
10:12 AM
@Database_Query No, that's not what you're doing. You're doing something else.
 
@TimPost How are us real people supposed to understand them.
 
Hey @Tim
 
user50049
@Leigh Magic decoder rings I think.
 
user50049
@NikiC 'allo :)
 
@NikiC i am just using the serilize function and getting the value from option
<select name="tag[]" class="chzn-select" multiple tabindex="4">
<?php
$query= "SELECT * FROM tag ";
$result= mysql_query($query);
if($result){
while($tag = mysql_fetch_array($result) ){
if($tag){
echo "<option value=\"{$tag['tag_name']}\">{$tag['tag_name']}</option> ";
}else{ echo"hacnt ";}
}}
else{echo "We cannot perform any query now...Plz try agian later";}
?>
</select>
@Gordon this is just my code above
 
10:17 AM
@Database_Query fixed font pls
@Database_Query I dont see you serializing anything in there
 
@Gordon how to fix this ... i have done 4 space before every statement
this is to get the value
and i am doing $tag= trim(serialize($_POST['tag']));
to get the tag
and my query is
 $query = "INSERT INTO `form` (`form_user_id`,`form_title`,`form_content`,`form_tag`,`form_time`) VALUES ('{$_SESSION['id']}','{$question_name}','{$question_content}','{$tag}',NOW())";
@Gordon code after formatting
<select name="tag[]" class="chzn-select" multiple tabindex="4">
<?php
$query= "SELECT * FROM tag ";
$result= mysql_query($query);
if($result){
    while($tag = mysql_fetch_array($result) ){
        if($tag){
            echo "<option value=\"{$tag['tag_name']}\">{$tag['tag_name']}</option> ";
           }else{ echo"hacnt ";}
        }

        }else{echo "We cannot perform any query now...Plz try agian later";}
?>
</select>
 
Please, don't use mysql_* functions to write new code. They are no longer maintained and the community has begun deprecation process. See the red box? Instead you should learn about prepared statements and use either PDO or MySQLi. If you can't decide which, this article will help you. If you pick PDO, here is good tutorial.
@Database_Query ^
 
@MadaraUchiha your comment is just awesome ... thanks for that
and i have got the solution
 
0
A: Efficient Algorithm To Compare Specificity Of CSS Rules

Madara UchihaThat is determined by specificity. In this case, since they are both equally specific, the declaration that comes last in the file, wins. Specificity Calculation Specificity is calculated by ranking the different parts of the selector. Ranked from most specific to least: Style attribute - I...

Can anyone go through this answer and see that the grammar is all right
I dunno what, but something irritates my eye when I read it over.
 
@Database_Query I was advised not to concatenate SQL strings... if its good advice I advise the same to you (just confirm with the others whether or not its a good idea)
 
10:31 AM
@ShyamK but i always do query like
$sql ="SELECT * FROM";
if($table == "question"){
   $sql .=" question ";
}elseif ($table == "answer") {
    $sql .=" answer ";
}
is it bad practice ?
 
@Database_Query insted of if else i think you can use switch case for good perfomance.
 
@MadaraUchiha your answer is very good
@MrugenRamani buddy its about concatenation of sql not about the how
 
@Database_Query Okay.
 
w00
@Database_Query Smells like bad OO to me if you're building queries like that. Looks like no "Single Responsibility" to me
 
10:37 AM
@w00 could you tell me the better approach ...
 
w00
@Database_Query Well, i can't give a good direct answer to that. I'm just assuming that you're not doing good OO in your code. If that's so, all i can do is suggest that you read more about OO and the "SOLID" principles for example, which should tackle problems like you're showing
 
I have two folders in domain, folder1 and folder2

each of these has its own htaccess. But when I tyle something like folder2/aboutus.php it is redirected to folder 1 and shows a page not fount error

How can we fix this?
 
@w00 thank you buddy ...
 
@Varada What's in your .htaccess files?
 
Let me copy it here
 
10:42 AM
@Varada Comon, you're not new, you know what kind of information you need to add to your questions!
 
#
# Apache/PHP/Drupal settings:
#

# Protect files and directories from prying eyes.
<FilesMatch "\.(engine|inc|info|install|make|module|profile|test|po|sh|.*sql|theme|tpl(\.php)?|xtmpl)$|^(\..*|Entries.*|Repository|Root|Tag|Template)$">
Order allow,deny
</FilesMatch>

# Don't show directory listings for URLs which map to a directory.
Options -Indexes

# Follow symbolic links in this directory.
# For security reasons, Option followsymlinks cannot be overridden.
#Options +FollowSymLinks
#Options +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
this is the htaccess file
It is a drupal site and I didnt change anything on the htaccess
 
hi, im not sure what i need to search for to find an answer so i thought that i'd try explain it here rather than a search engine (not had no luck)... I need to be able to load html file but at the same time print the output of a php script as it comes in rather than waiting for the script to run and then print its whole output (i'm echo'ing the progress of a task done in php and it seems to the user that the sites hanging waiting)
would i have to go the jquery/ajax route or is there some other way? thanks
 
Sup bitches
 
w00
@L14M333 Sounds like you need Ajax for that. But it also sounds like you need 2 calls? One for the HTML content, and one that returns status updates? In any way, using Ajax would be the best choice
 
10:49 AM
@Varada i am not sure that this 1 will be usefull or not

# Set the default handler.
DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm
 
ok thank you
 
Hi I have another issue regarding joomla htaccess issue
In godady i have created a demo folder in side the joomla website.
Like ww.example.com/demo but the .htaccess file inside the demo joomla site is not access, it is usign the default htaccess .
 
@DaveRandom Recommend a pub within a few minutes of the Britannia Hotel on Portland Street?
Somewhere that weary coders might be able to sit down with a pint.
 
how can i refer the subfolder inside the htaccess.
 
10:54 AM
@Leigh What sort of place? A old mans pub, bar or what?
 
I am using jooma default .htaccess file for the demo folder
 
@DaveRandom Well I prefer old mans pubs. Like I said, I'd prefer to sit :)
But being in the area is kind of a priority.
 
user50049
Redis PUB/SUB is so extremely handy for debugging
 
user50049
It's like a chat room for bugs.
2
 
@Leigh Well this is not exactly an old mans pub but it's fantastic for nerds, and not ridiculously expensive. If you get in before about 7 you should easily get a table, but it does start to get a bit club-like later on. Not sure what it's like on a Friday, I try and avoid town on Fridays...
 
10:57 AM
http://support.godaddy.com/help/article/6656/enabling-joomla-search-engine-friendly-urls
I get a No input file specified. error , i have check go dady forum i got http://support.godaddy.com/groups/web-hosting/forum/topic/joomla-no-input-file-specified/?pc_split_value=3
 
The site is mostly pink :(
 
@Leigh The Salisbury is also quite good but can be a bit loud and short of tables
@Leigh Yeh I know that web site is a bit much isn't it
 
@w00 thanks however i have seen in cases such as applications like webmin where the logs scroll down the screen as they come in and i don't think i can get that functionality via ajax :(
 
@Leigh The Lass O Gowrie might be more like what you're after and it's not too far (maybe 10 mins?)
 
The Old Monkey?
 
11:01 AM
@Leigh Not been in there for years, don't know what it's like these days. Used to be alright but a bit full of kiddies
 
w00
@L14M333 Why not? It's basically the only way to get data in an async way. You just have to do an Ajax request to a controller or some webservice and catch that data in your Ajax request callback (look at jQuery for an example). Then all you have to do is append the HTML element in which you want to display the Log.
You'll probably have to create a timer to do it at a certain interval
 
@w00, okay.. ill take a look thanks
 
@DaveRandom Oh, there's a wetherspoons around the corner, I guess I could mingle with chavs for a cheap pint.
 
@Leigh The problem you've got is that in town on a Friday night everywhere is a bit club-y. You end up shouting over the music. I like the Lass, and if you go out towards the Unis there are some quieter places, but right in the centre of town like that you're sort of stuck. What sort of time are you talking about?
 
Well, if I'm optimistic and we leave work at 5, 2 hour drive + traffic, probably around 8 by the time we get checked in.
 
11:11 AM
morning
 
@Leigh Yeh by that time you're looking at paying to get in most places around Picadilly, and stab vests would be advisable for a lot of places. Personally I'd take the hit and go further out (and I'm only talking like ~10mins walking) either down towards the Uni or over to Deansgate - I personally would probably go to Cateaton street where there are at least 3 places you would like
 
Well, I'm now looking at my ticket, and it says I'm booked for 5th Oct 6pm -> midnight, maybe they did get me hackathon access after all, in which case I don't need to go anywhere.
 
@tereško there are no problem to redirect any one to a valid information. and this is not a valid reason to downvote the answer — Ahmad 1 min ago
... after downvoting for w3schools recommendation
 
@Leigh I did think it was odd when you said you didn't, the website definitely implies that everyone gets access to that
 
11:29 AM
@tereško Added my own comment there.
 
@tereško Hi
 
11:46 AM
greetings
you were the guy who wanted to start learning PHP ?
 
Yes. glad you remember.
So, I am following this link to set up the environment. Is it okay? eclipse.org/phoenix/docs/PHPeclipse_setup.v1.0.1.pdf
I already have eclipse that I have been using for android and java.
 
if you are already using Eclipse, then i would suggest using Aptana plugin instead
 
@tereško Second that.
 
Hi buddies
 
So, where can I find that? I already selected php development tools in the help -> install new software.
The process is going on now.
 
11:52 AM
what you seem to be installing is PDT , which is a free (and considerably worse) version of Zend Studio
 
Okay, shall I stop the process now? Or it doesn't effect even if I install Aptana.
 
i honestly dont know .. last time, when i tried aptana and pdt installed alongside , the eclipse was still in version 3.0
 
Okay. At present I am not disturbing it then. After it is finished I would go with Aptana. Let's see what happens.
 

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