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Ell
6:00 PM
@VinayakGarg I can't programme either, so I have no hope :P
 
@Ell oops
I try to do some photoshop work, but ugh its horrible lookin
 
Ell
I need to find a programmer that can do 3d graphics, then I can do the network & game logic
 
programmer that can do 3d graphics? you want a designer or someone
 
> Homosexuality is condemned in 13 verses of the Qur'an. The only sexual relationship that is legitimate is between married men and women.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You mean a married man and his numerous, inferior wives.
Fuck religion btw. And human stupidity in general.
 
6:06 PM
> In Islam, polygamy is allowed and practised under certain restricted conditions. Muslim men are allowed to practise polygyny, that is, they can have more than one wife at the same time, up to a total of four. Polyandry, the practice of a woman having more than one husband, by contrast, is not permitted.
Well, that is quite specific.
Why four?
 
Ell
@VinayakGarg sorry I meant a programmer that can do opengl
@R.MartinhoFernandes what OS is on your pi?
 
I'm pretty sure the bible says something like "if a man lies with another man, they must both be stoned".
 
@EtiennedeMartel Parce que ça tient sur deux bites ! Ahah.
 
Xeo
@Ell I think it was some version of Minix?
 
Which basically means they now have to legalize weed
 
Xeo
6:07 PM
@LuchianGrigore You stole that from a tweet. :P
 
@NolwennLeGuen Erm.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why one?
 
> Polygamy for Muslims, in practice and in law, differs greatly throughout the Islamic world, where polygamous marriages constitute only 1–3% of all marriages. In some Muslim countries, polygamy is relatively common, while in others, it is rare or non-existent. Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Tunisia, Kurdistan and Turkey, for example, are predominantly Muslim countries that have not adopted Islamic law for marital regulations, where polygamy is not legal.
 
I think I posted that a while back here
 
6:08 PM
So I guess it depends.
 
This world is bad.
 
Nah, it's alright.
 
Sometimes.
I'm still baffled by the overall moronity of humans.
 
That's because morons are typically the most vocal.
They simply have more visibility than more reasonable people, who have this annoying tendency to keep a low profile and not do anything about it.
 
Ell
so all we need to do is get the morons to listen to the quiet people
 
6:13 PM
Ahahahahahhahahahah
 
@Ell They won't listen.
 
We could push them onto Sandy Island.
 
What we need to do is to take up all the room so there's none left for them.
It's like setting off an explosion to extinguish a fire.
 
What could possibly go wrong
 
@EtiennedeMartel You know that actually is a technique to extinguish a fire.
 
6:14 PM
@NolwennLeGuen Yes.
 
Xeo
This is kinda cool.
 
@Xeo Yeah.
The Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear was a gathering that took place on October 30, 2010 at the National Mall in Washington, DC. The rally was led by Jon Stewart, host of the satirical news program The Daily Show, and Stephen Colbert, in-character as a conservative political pundit. About 215,000 people attended the rally, according to aerial photography analysis by AirPhotosLive.com for CBS News. The rally was a combination of what initially were announced as separate events: Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" and Colbert's counterpart, the "March to Keep Fear Alive". Its stated pur...
^ That was a really cool idea.
 
posted on December 04, 2012 by Herb Sutter

On yesterday’s thread, I just wrote in a comment: @Jon: Yes, C++ is complex and the complexity is largely because of C compatibility. I agree with Bjarne that there’s a small language struggling to get out — I’ve participated in private experiments to specify such a language, and you can do it in well under [...]

 
Is there a way to check for the last position inside this lambda?
 
Xeo
No
 
6:21 PM
Use a global variable. (Though a singleton would probably be cleaner)
 
@NolwennLeGuen Oh, you.
 
@NolwennLeGuen yes, I'll do just that.
 
Question is kind of silly because he asks for a simple one-liner solution yet he already provides one
 
6:33 PM
@LuchianGrigore I did two two liners.
 
@NolwennLeGuen so why'd you change your name?
 
@LuchianGrigore Dat running gag.
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Ask Cicada why she changed her name. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@Rapptz 4 lines
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not sure that's a good idea. I mean OK I allegedly am an attention whore, but this is a bit too much @_@
 
@NolwennLeGuen I'm sure it'll turn out all right.
 
6:46 PM
Next time I'll change my name to "Dan" and put a male picture. I'm sure there won't be that much fuss.
 
@Ell I am running Arch.
I see that my boobs are still popular.
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Yes, I am starbaiting now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yep.
 
Hmm, I need to 9 to 5 or something like that if I want to go to the SO Careers thingy tomorrow.
@Xeo you going?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Vat?
 
@EtiennedeMartel "Work from 9 to 5"
Inference, inference.
 
6:51 PM
Ah.
 
god I hate Purolator
 
god i hate matlab
 
@emartel Hahahaha
 
at least you don't need to go to Lachine to get your results :P
+ I need to pass by work
to let them know my doctor doesn't want me to go back to work full time, oops :)
 
Fair point.
 
6:53 PM
Sainsbury’s answered
 
@emartel At least you can see the life size Adam again ;)
 
they have a lifesized adam?
 
lol ^
 
fuck that, where's the life sized Lara Croft?
 
6:54 PM
> **Sainsbury's** Hi Konrad, Like other major retailers, Sainsbury’s will not accept EU identification cards.
There are over 55 different I.D. cards in use across the EU, making it impossible to train our colleagues to recognise every one.
> I understand this would have been frustrating for you, and to make sure you are served in future I would recommend that you refer to the accepted list I sent to you earlier. Have a good evening, Mark.
 
@emartel Well in cardboard they do :P
 
wtf …
 
add a space between > and I
 
@KonradRudolph What.
 
@Borgleader JENSEN.
 
6:55 PM
@KonradRudolph lolsies.
 
@Borgleader oh hah... at Ubi we used to have like giant figurines of some of our heroes
 
@EtiennedeMartel I didn't ask for this.
 
@KonradRudolph So much joy.
 
it was pretty cool
 
so my draft reply so far looks like this:
> I understand that this may pose technical problems for Sainsbury’s but you must realise that customers have other concerns, and there must be a balance between these interests. I ask Sainsbury’s to comment explicitly on whether they think that the current status is a reasonable balance. Clearly, I don’t believe it is: There exists an internationally acknowledged solution for proof of identity / age: it’s called national ID.
Thanks to holographic logos they are hard to forge, and easy to recognise, even for untrained staff; they were designed for that. In addition, there are at least (!) 5
 
6:55 PM
@emartel I visited Ubi for school. They have a giant ass king kong statue nowadays o.o
 
… I do not understand how this chat works :/
 
@Borgleader since 2004 :)
 
@KonradRudolph Implying it worked at some point.
 
@Borgleader Yeah, on the fifth floor, IIRC.
 
@KonradRudolph lol 50? I know three different types of driving licenses from Portugal alone.
 
6:57 PM
@EtiennedeMartel IIRC the floor with the cafeteria and the insanely big HR department, is that 5th?
 
@EtiennedeMartel it used to be in the Cafeteria (I guess it's called F5 now?) on the 5th yeah
@Borgleader should be :)
 
Plus, my father's driving license is over 30 years old. And so is the photograph in it.
Accepting a foreign driving license and not a national ID is pure bullshit.
 
> Finally, if Sainsbury’s thinks this is a reasonable hurdle, is Sainsbury’s prepared to pay for my commercial proof of age ID that I then have to buy?
 
@Borgleader Yep.
With the Starbucks.
@KonradRudolph What are you trying to purchase?
 
> I would appreciate an official reply that I can quote in the press.
 
6:59 PM
I'll also add that Portuguese ID cards are the bestest. :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel Some fucking beer
 
@KonradRudolph o.o lolwat, you're having trouble buying beer?!?
how old are you?
 
20 fucking 7
 
@KonradRudolph Where are you right now?
 
Well damn...
 
7:01 PM
U fucking K
 
@KonradRudolph Whaaaat. You don't look like a teenager, do you?
 
@KonradRudolph Ha, that'll teach ya.
 
in fact, I haven’t shaved in two weeks, I look everything but a teenager. Rather a hirsute bear
 
Beer is bad anyway :)
 
7:01 PM
Can't you go shop anywhere else?
 
of course I could
not the point
 
That's unbelievably stupid (Sainsbury's attitude)
 
alright, see you later, I'll go get lost in lachine to try to get my package back :)
 
@emartel Good luck!
 
@KonradRudolph Come to the land of the red leaf. You will not have this problem ;)
@emartel gl hf
 
7:03 PM
Yeah, here, you only need ID if you look younger than 25. Which is awfully subjective, come to think of it, so most of the time, if you look like at least 18, then no ID.
 
@EtiennedeMartel So same as here then
 
Isn't the legal drinking age in Canada 19?
 
@emartel gl hf
 
@Rapptz: IIRC, in Alberta, Quebec and Manitoba it's 18
19 everywhere else
 
Well closest province to me is Ontario
 
7:07 PM
the worst with Ontario are the beer stores
closes at 5pm on Sundays and 9pm otherwise
and you can't get alcohol anywhere else (legally, that is)
 
How well do these laws work in practice?
Is it really hard to get alcohol if you are 16?
 
no
 
(When I grew up, there was no such thing in my country)
 
No such thing as what?
 
When I was 10, I used to go buy cigarettes and beer for a friend of my dad so I could keep the change.
 
7:11 PM
In Ontario, it's practically impossible from what I've heard, unless you have friends
 
@Rapptz Minimum age for buying alcohol.
 
@Rapptz Alcohol, obviously.
 
@netcoder that's a very big unless, it's easy to have friends or people to sneak you a drink.
 
Heh true.
 
> it's easy to have friends
 
7:13 PM
Yeah. Unless you're a cloud of poison gas.
 
I think I got the amounts wrong. This looks like a meal for 3 people.
 
Then it's a bit more complicated.
 
Also, in Ontario and Quebec, if you walk into a alcohol store with a minor (<19 or <18), they will ID him and refuse to sell you alcohol
(most of the times)
 
@netcoder Yep.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I grew up in South America and I never had problems with buying alcohol for my uncles when I was younger. So it might be a South American thing.
 
7:13 PM
That's a rather interesting law, actually.
 
What about the whole fake ID business? Is it as ubiquitous as those silly movies depict?
 
Considering said minor could just wait outside.
 
@netcoder lolwut
"You cannot drink, you have an underage kid"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've seen fake IDs to get into clubs a couple of times. I don't know how common it is though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Essentially, anyone present has to show an ID.
 
7:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I've seen mothers being refused wine bottles because they were with their 10-11 year-old kid
 
Maybe it's a safety thing? Like drinking and driving?
 
In Portugal you cannot sell alcohol to drunk people either.
 
@netcoder s/they're/their
 
Anyway, most laws are built on honor to function properly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not sure about liquor stores, but I used to know a guy who worked as a doorman at a club -- said the average was about 5 people per weekend night trying to use fade IDs (at quite a large club).
 
Ell
7:17 PM
hi again guise
 
HAI ELL LOL
 
@JerryCoffin I think the proper term is a bouncer.
@Borgleader What
 
Ell
wow sauerbraten is painfully slow to dl
 
It's damn tasty though. I guess I can eat it all if I make it a long meal.
 
Ell
also we should play more room games! :'(
 
7:18 PM
@Rapptz Sorry, some guy in my wow guild keeps saying "HAY GUSY LOL" when he logs in. I couldn't resist -.-;
 
@EtiennedeMartel i love that accent. do you speak like that?
@Borgleader GUSY GUSY
 
People still play WoW in 2012?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Almost.
 
Some dudette in this room keeps saying "guis" when she logs in.
 
@Rapptz 9 million of them yeah
 
Ell
7:19 PM
We should all be playing spring rts!
 
No way.
 
@Rapptz Not according to him -- doormen are separate from bouncers. Bouncers provide muscle, but most wouldn't know a fake ID if it bit them on the nose.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Johannes Schaub litb
 
Ell
@Rapptz why not?
 
@DeadMG That's "folks".
 
7:20 PM
@JerryCoffin Ah really? I've never seen a doorman before then. I've just always seen a bouncer.
 
And AFAIK Johannes is not a dudette.
@Rapptz You are clearly not going to the right clubs.
 
I live in the Detroit area
I think that speaks for itself :|
 
Sorry, I have very poor knowledge of US geography state stereotypes :/
 
Though most of the clubs I've been to was actually in Miami
 
@Rapptz Should add though: at least around here, only a few of the biggest clubs appear to have specially designated doormen. Most do just station a bouncer at the door. This guy could never have been a bouncer, but he know more about IDs than you want to even think about.
 
7:30 PM
double normals[][] = {
  #include "normals.txt"
};
I've never seen someone do that before, lol. Got it from here
 
@Rapptz Robot's codes do that.
 
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Q: String walking throws exception in VS2005 C++

JohnI'm using C++ in Visual Studio 2005 (large legacy project). Have the following code snippet: bool FOO::bar(const string& input_text) { string::const_iterator ch = input_text.begin(), last_ch = input_text.end(); for( ; ch!=last_ch; ++ch ) { ///////////////////////...

Wtf is this guy doing
 
If I don't read the question and only the title, I'll say he's walking his string at the park using VS2005.
Also why is he using VS2005 anyway? Oh large "legacy project", gotcha.. First sentence.
 
`CString full_filter;
full_filter.Format( "*%s*", filter_value );
foo.bar((LPCTSTR)full_filter));`
Function signature: `bool FOO::bar(const string& input_text)`
 
@Rapptz If he didn't put that sentence in there, then someone would've mirrored @Fred's comment from yesterday.
 
7:34 PM
Which comment?
 
22 hours ago, by FredOverflow
Visual C++ 6, are you serious? Burn it. Burn it with fire! — FredOverflow 4 mins ago
 
hi guys!
I'm very near self-hosting my dear Ambrosia!
 
Whoa VC++ 6
 
@rubenvb the plant you mean?
 
@rubenvb That's neat. I can beta test it with ogonek if you want.
 
7:38 PM
you lost me
 
@NolwennLeGuen Ambrosia is a build system project he has been working on.
 
@Cicada changed her name!?!?
o.o
 
You're so slow
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, okay. makes more sense.
 
@Ell lets play the quiet game
 
7:39 PM
Dude I'm at school, I'm not paying too much attention
 
Ell
@MooingDuck orrr torchlight 2!
 
You are not paying attention to class, but are paying attention to chat, right?
 
@Ell Don't even own that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes :P Sadly I'd probably learn more from the chat than from this useless class
 
7:40 PM
@rubenvb Define "powerful".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Great! I still need to have dependency's header dirs added to the build command. Then it'll at least work on Windows using GCC. The rest is still WIP.
 
@Borgleader Ah, for a moment there I thought you were betraying us with some random teacher.
 
@Ell TL2 is fun
 
> never use a using statement in a header.
 
@rubenvb Windows with GCC is exactly what I am using.
 
7:41 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Your operating system has garbage collection?
 
@CatPlusPlus using string can be a pivot though
 
@rubenvb That's not really helping.
 
(Though I regularly build it on the Pi, which runs Arch)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh don't worry. This teacher is not worth it.
 
7:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes good stuff. Might take a week or so, depending on if I finish it today or have the motivation to code some more this week :-)
@EtiennedeMartel It'll rock your world. No seriously, that's just self-advertisement. I have huge goals, but it's progressing slowly.
 
@rubenvb You should host a cool Web page with minimalistic design, a completely useless code sample and a large "fork me on Github!" ribbon.
 
@Borgleader I worry, why are you in class?
 
Then put that on Hacker News.
 
As in, automated Linux distro package generation (although they mostly have their own meta-build system...), multithreaded builds, etc...
 
Watch the hipster pussy flock to you.
 
7:43 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol that's lame... so lame it might just work :)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Because I'm a full time student?
 
@rubenvb That reminds me: with Bing now trying to compete for the market, has SO gotten around to prohibiting lmbtfy.com in comments?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, my blog has minimalistic design. Do you have anything against that?
 
@rubenvb It works. That's how most "cool" open source projects are advertised these days.
 
@Borgleader Your attendance is required? What grade is this?
 
7:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not advertising a product.
 
@CaptainGiraffe No, but we have a presentation today
 
@JerryCoffin I don't think anyone knows it exists.
 
Oh, it depends on the use case.
 
@Borgleader What's it about?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'll start thinking about promotion when I get Linux(GCC/ICC/Clang)/Windows(GCC/Clang/MSVC/ICC) support rolling.
 
7:45 PM
@JerryCoffin I don't know if there's a technical prohibition on that one, but there is a social one.
 
@MooingDuck - I have never been keen on globals. Guess it is a matter of taste. — Ed Heal 6 mins ago
 
@Rapptz Billiards game in matlab. You heard it... a "game" in matlab T_T
 
(in a discussion where he proposed singletons)
 
@rubenvb Problem is, you're hosting your stuff on BitBucket, not Github.
 
7:46 PM
@Rapptz I only figured out by making the obvious substitution and trying it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel check the link, it's github
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm pretty sure that was github
 
What the fuck
My brain just farted.
 
me being here in this chat is not getting that code written.
 
7:46 PM
I really thought I was replying to the robot.
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel pardon you :o
 
@MooingDuck lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, but the definition of a programmer is somebody gets around the rules as necessary to make the system work (for some definition of "work" -- usually his own).
 
Also @DeadMG, if you finally got ogonek to compile (or maybe even otherwise), can you send me the code (or fork it and push the changes or whatever) so I can look at it to check out if I can macro out some stuff and generally set up the build system so it works?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't you have access to a version of visual studio? I assumed everyone here had least had access to it.
 
7:49 PM
I have VS10.
I know that one won't compile it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, he was using VS11 and the Nov CTP thing?
 
Yes.
I actually don't even have VC++ installed on any of my personal machines.
Only at work.
 
makes sense
 
MSBuild has the tendency to not work after a week of being installed on my machine.
I've had it being unusable three separate times (one after a full Windows reinstall).
VS2012 sucks.
 
@MooingDuck access in a very loose sense of the word. I have the ability to install it legally yes. Not on my current system though.
 
7:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The only stuff left, I think, is the Unicode literals- they'll require a tad more work in some cases.
 
Why?
Isn't that all in the generated code?
If you want you can tell me what I need to change and I can rewrite the generator myself.
 
right, but I'm not wholly certain what I can replace them with.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes That was tomorrow?
 
@rubenvb wtf... I blame the user :P
 
@Xeo Yes.
@DeadMG Ah. Right, that array thingy did not work, wasn't it?
:S
 
7:54 PM
I'm about to have kittens with the mountains of code i've relied on in the past concerning manufacturing a uint32_t from a uint8_t[4] if what Jens says in this comment is true. Am I losing (or have lost) my mind ?
 
Fuck it, use the damn shifts.
 
Can somebody please change the title of this room! Any >quotd will do
 
@Borgleader I'm serious. It bails out on anything I try.
 
Why won't people just use the damn shifts.
WWhy´ewj owh klezlkh jha
 
@WhozCraig No, he's wrong. There's no UB in that code.
 
7:55 PM
@rubenvb I haven't heard of anyone else having this kind of problems
 
@DeadMG Thank you sir (whew).
 
Oh wait.
The answer uses the damn shifts.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know how :o
 
@WhozCraig That comment is pure bullshit indeed.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The Unicode literals is all that's left. Want the rest?
 
7:56 PM
@Borgleader It's this problem, except it even happens on a new single-file C++ project.
 
@WhozCraig code in the answer is find, her comment doesn't apply to that code
 
@DeadMG Yes, please.
 
@WhozCraig that comment is in reference to the code in the question, not your answer.
 
@MooingDuck And that explains the down vote by him of the answer... how ? =P Maybe he just didn't like my indentation .
 
7:58 PM
@NolwennLeGuen Like most people :P
 
@NolwennLeGuen Hate php instead, You'll be a happier person.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Why can't we hate both?
 
@NolwennLeGuen prolog is kinda nice perhaps?
 
> If you want to manufacture a uint32_t from 4 uint8_t, then do that.
@WhozCraig Because you say the code in the question is right.
Which is not.
 
> The language was first conceived by a group around Alain Colmerauer in Marseille, France, in the early 1970s and the first Prolog system was developed in 1972 by Colmerauer with Philippe Roussel.
 
7:59 PM
how do I issue a pull request?
 

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