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10:00 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Precisely. I've only written two papers using it, but in the process learnt the ins and outs. I can't wrap my head around a program like Word/Excel without mentally mapping the object model.
 
@sehe you sound like the sort of person who never finishes a task because they are always trying to improve what they have done :P
 
And the first thing I do with any application is google for a keyboard shortcut list
 
some douchebag claimed that a raw array passed as an argument to a function myfunc (int[] arr), the array is copied. What??? No
 
@thecoshman Doing that exploration doesn't take me a lot of time. I like to learn new things.
@TonyTheLion What was the language tag?
 
@sehe C++
 
10:03 AM
I should've known from the position of the []
Link :)
 
oh it was a reddit comment
 
@TonyTheLion O, quick, someone was wrong on reddit. Good thing it wasn't on the tubes
 
@thecoshman That said, I haven't finished my studies, so you got a point
 
The position is wrong for C++.
 
10:04 AM
@sehe the tubes would've been worse
 
@RMartinhoFernandes See... I was going back and forth on that, but doing to many things at a time. I assumed Tony was 'right' :) I knew something looked odd, which prompted my question:
2 mins ago, by sehe
@TonyTheLion What was the language tag?
Sigh. Fail, I guess.
Chalk one up to too much C#
 
But in C# it isn't copied either.
 
anyways, it's supposed to be C++, and I'm sorry if I put the [] in the wrong place
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I didn't say that. C# has different syntax, explaining my confusion. I suppose python/Java might have pass-by-copy there
 
@TonyTheLion you were wrong on the internet! you must die with corrections!
 
10:06 AM
@TonyTheLion You didn't copy/paste ?!?!?
 
yea only Java would be so inefficient as to copy arrays
 
Java passes them by reference.
 
@thecoshman I know the feeling ;(
 
Only primitives are passed by value.
 
@thecoshman I'm pretty sure that isn't the idea of that meme. We leave it to the raptors
 
10:07 AM
@sehe nope
 
@sehe which meme :S
 
there's no meme about being wrong on the interwebs, only a XKCD
unless that's considered a meme
 
@TonyTheLion TBH, I don't think it is. I remember something of a surprise with python - it might be different though (something like, it is easy to modify an array by ref, but hard to set the ref, like in C#)
 
or is just the act of being wrong a meme too?
 
10:08 AM
@TonyTheLion It's a unit of cultural something, aka, a meme.
 
"if you are going to let your self be wrong on the inter; you are going to have a bad time"
 
@TonyTheLion I do. It's a mem around here, at least
 
memcpy?
MEMES EVERYWHERE
 
@RMartinhoFernandes are you defining a meme as a unit of cultural something?
@TonyTheLion meme ALL THE THINGS
 
10:09 AM
@thecoshman Looking back, I kinda like that definition.
 
meme's are on the interwebs, unless you're RPG or some memefied dude
 
@RMartinhoFernandes what if you look at it with a mirror?
 
damn you
 
10:10 AM
?
 
Wikipedia tells me the "something" I was looking for is "ideas, symbols or practices".
 
so pointers could be a meme?
it's a practice
 
It's a technical concept. I don't think those qualify.
 
how can a meme be a unit of anything? never have I hearded some one say "that'll be about five memes less then that other thing"
 
meh
@thecoshman lol
 
10:12 AM
@thecoshman Not the right meaning of 'unit'. 'Unit' as in 'unity' in this case.
'One lump of cultural something'.
 
a lump?
anyone heard of The Feather programming language?
 
user1151738
uh...Hi again
 
user1151738
I installed libcurlfor VS2010 updated 7.25
 
user1151738
but all that happens is a black console pops up and then dies
 
user1151738
10:15 AM
i don't think it is sending any mail
 
user1151738
please help me
 
@TonyTheLion Yes, a group, set, or unit.
 
Like, a lump of sugar.
 
user1151738
pl help me
 
10:18 AM
sugar is tasty :D
 
hmmmm sugar
I have a phone job interview this afternoon
 
user1151738
hello ppl, please help me ?
 
@cadhityaa please create a question on Stackoverflow.com
 
user1151738
k
 
user1151738
can someone here quickly tell me a ans ?
 
10:20 AM
53 mins ago, by Luc Danton
@cadhityaa This chat is not a helpdesk. Which doesn't mean that you can't ask, but don't be surprised if your plea is met with indifference.
 
user1151738
brief explanation
 
1 min ago, by Tony The Lion
@cadhityaa please create a question on Stackoverflow.com
 
user1151738
alright... :/
 
@TonyTheLion Sounds interesting. Haskell-y :).
 
10:21 AM
@TonyTheLion he he he 'phone job'
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yea, it's interesting
@thecoshman lol, don't even... go there
 
I don't get it.
Do you want to?
 
@TonyTheLion what? I just think it is funny working for a phone company :P
 
@cadhityaa Congrats. Your problem is solved. It now compiles. Cheers
 
@RMartinhoFernandes 'blow job' NSFW
 
10:23 AM
@thecoshman that's not what I meant with "phone job interview"
 
user1151738
@sehe, what ?
 
I meant, an interview done on the phone
 
user1151738
It does compile
 
user1151738
but no output
 
and it's not for a phone company
 
user1151738
10:23 AM
just a blank console
 
@TonyTheLion you don't say :P
 
@thecoshman oh you
 
@thecoshman seems legit
@cadhityaa If you click on the arrow link you see it was in response to your message here
 
user1151738
how is my problem solved when it is not sending mail ??
 
user1151738
@sehe ^
 
10:26 AM
@thecoshman So, anything with the word "job" on it makes your perv brain think of that?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes perhaps. give it a try
 
@cadhityaa It means you have to choose whether you think you have a new problem. The old one is very much solved.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I thought I was bad
guess I'm pretty average
 
user1151738
OK. New Problem : No mail :P
 
considering
 
10:28 AM
@thecoshman That's what she said.
 
user1151738
now can anybody help me with my "new" problem ?
 
@cadhityaa I refer to the many previous comments pointing you towards stack overflow
 
@RMartinhoFernandes now you'r getting it
 
10:30 AM
The Bank Job is a 2008 British crime film written by Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, directed by Roger Donaldson, and starring Jason Statham, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery in central London, from which the money and valuables stolen were never recovered. The producers allege that the story was prevented from being told because of a D-Notice (now known as a DA-Notice) government gagging request, allegedly to protect a prominent member of the British Royal Family. According to the producers, this movie is intended to reveal the truth for the first time, although it includes sign...
 
"News Flash: The internet does not care about you"
 
@geoffeg Dragon code is written in C++ on Linux.
:)
 
user1151738
0
Q: libcurl smtp mail error

c.adhityaaHere and Here. They have sources to sending mail. But when I compile them, I see a blank Console Box and then it disappears without printing anything. I used VS2010. Please help me by telling me where I am going wrong. Thanks, Adhityaa

 
> Rasmus Ledorf is a self-confessed dilettante in language design.
lol
 
Josuttis new Book seems to be quite good, just got it last week.
Rasmus Ledorf is to /ignore
 
10:34 AM
@Nils Is it a C++11 edition?
> Null sucks — Doug Lea
 
yes of course
nullptr not
:)
 
10:48 AM
Just flagged for a mod in room Agarwal:
> There is an annoying flag fest going on with global non-mod flags from this room. Since it is 'invitees' only, I can't really request an explanation. I've seen around 20 flags in the last 5 minutes
Also, trying to get in contact here
in Casual chat, 1 min ago, by sehe
@Agarwal what's going with the flags in your room?
 
2
A: How to define nullptr for supporting both C++03 and C++11?

Cheers and hth. - AlfAFAIK you cannot automate from within the code the detection of nullptr support. In practice you can read that as “impossible”, it’s a pretty strong “AFAIK”. The thing to do is therefore to use compiler-specific code and/or build command. For example, in each relev...

^ Lots of impractical answers (IMHO).
 
Works for any conforming compiler though!
 
user1151738
@sehe was that for VS2010 ? I am getting many errors
 
@LucDanton yeah, but none of the compilers of interest are conforming
 
@CheersandhthAlf surely a conforming compiler would be of great interest
 
10:59 AM
:-)
yeah
 
@cadhityaa what?
 
user1151738
@sehe your comment on my ques...
 
11:14 AM
yeah, but there are errors when i compile with VS2010... Maybe, what you gave is for a linux ? — c.adhityaa 3 mins ago
@cadhityaa what I gave, again, is for 'a c++ compiler'...
 
user1151738
but it does not work in vs2010 !!
 
user1151738
it really doesen't
 
@cadhityaa Try more exclamation marks?
 
"Does not work" is not a useful problem description.
 
@cadhityaa I'm not convinced. Perhaps you should repeat it.
 
user1151738
11:16 AM
repeat what ?
 
Or, maybe, perhaps, you could edit the question and show us the error message you get
 
"Does not work" is almost as useful as "there is a problem".
 
... I'm hinting that I think it is annoying that you repeat 'It still doesn't work' every instant.
Granted, sometimes with more exclamation marks.
And sometimes creatively adding 'really' (in case we didn't believe you)
I believe you have a problem, but see
2 hours ago, by sehe
There's just nothing we can do without more information
 
user1151738
Alright. What more info do you need ? Anythig, Iam here...
 
user1151738
*Anything
 
user1151738
11:19 AM
just ask
 
3 mins ago, by sehe
Or, maybe, perhaps, you could edit the question and show us the error message you get
@cadhityaa I'm about to give up. I did ask. And I think that would be rather obvious...
 
user1151738
I am not getting an error message...
 
user1151738
My console screen does not print output similar to talkbinary.com/programming/c/…
 
user1151738
whereas it should
 
@cadhityaa You don't? Sweet. That means your problem is solved
yeah, but there are errors when i compile with VS2010... Maybe, what you gave is for a linux ? — c.adhityaa 10 mins ago
Afk. Lunch is calling.
 
user1151738
11:21 AM
Please help... tell me where i am wrong
 
user1151738
it is supposed to print output like :
 
user1151738
* About to connect() to smtp.gmail.com port 587 (#0)
* Trying 74.125.53.109... * connected
* Connected to smtp.gmail.com (74.125.53.109) port 587 (#0)
< 220 mx.google.com ESMTP q10sm8033678pbb.10
> EHLO unknownc42c0304eee8
< 250-mx.google.com at your service, [99.53.224.80]
< 250-SIZE 35882577
.
.
.
 
user1151738
and more
 
That doesn't help.
 
irrlicht y u no use RAII.
 
11:22 AM
Do you know how to use a debugger?
 
user1151738
nope
 
user1151738
but i could learn
 
@classdaknok_t The thing that bugs me the most with Irrlicht is the Hungarian notation. I think the guy did a lot of MFC.
 
user1151738
wait... have anyone of you ever received a mail by using raw.github.com/bagder/curl/master/docs/examples/smtp-tls.c
 
It'd be a damn good library if it were slightly more idiomatic modern C++
 
11:24 AM
@EtiennedeMartel IKnowRight?
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's nothing compared to manual clean-up and pointers all over the place. Irrlicht could as well been written in C that way.
 
Irrlicht was written in C with Classes.
 
It does evil pointer-to-int conversions which gives me errors when compiling as 64 bits.
I hope I'll never have to use that library again.
 
sbi
:3613978 I used to do that with Word 2.0, then 2.1, then Word 6, then Word 95. Then came Word 97, with the dancing paper clip. I had a short look at it, uninstalled it after a few days, and went back to Word 95. I am now using Word... err, really, I dunno, there's no Help/About anymore... at work, and I hate it. FFS, it can't even undo after save! How dumb is that?! And finding something on those ribbons is horrible, because it's sorted in there according to a secretary's usage pattern....
 
@classdaknok_t Look at the bright side: you could be using Ogre...
 
11:28 AM
:)
 
@sbi people look at me like I'm stupid when they ask me how to do something simple in Word and I say "I have no idea" as a reply
 
I'll just write my own stuff. All I need is to render a 3D world and walk around in it and some simple interaction with objects.
That way I can at least use C++11 and I understand everything.
And it compiles as 64-bit. :P
 
@cadhityaa In VS, press F10
 
sbi
@awoodland Well, I do have an idea, only stuff is so hard to find on those ribbons. My cow-workers always ask me how to do something in Word, and then I desperately search where they might have it hidden, until I say "fuck it, just hit Ctrl+Shift+S", and they are annoyed, because they can't remember those keyboard shortcuts, and want to know where this is in the GUI.
@sehe There's a zero too much in that message. :-/
 
@sbi haha
 
user1151738
11:33 AM
I give up.... I just use VBscript inside c++ by creating .vbs files and executing them in cscript... cybernetnews.com/vbscript-send-emails-using-gmail semds mail... :(
 
user1151738
*sends
 
@sbi precisely. I'm so addicted to 'absolute addressing' in features I can't usually be bothered to slowdown and explain/find the 'user-friendly' (cough) route
@cadhityaa go for it :)
 
user1151738
alright... last ques here
 
user1151738
how do i get admin privilidge using the UAC in windows 7 ? I don't want to use .manifest filees
 
user1151738
*files
 
11:36 AM
you know that you are typing non-words rather frequently, do you? As a bit of advice: compilers may not deal well with that kind of flexibility.
It doesn't work too well with some humans too. Also, you can edit message (*up arrow) and see the --> newbie-hints TYVM
 
user1151738
@sehe ^ is for me ?
 
@cadhityaa Absolutely. If it fits...
 
user1151738
k
 
user1151738
anyway, know any answer to my question ?
 
user1151738
admin privileges in UAC
 
11:41 AM
@cadhityaa Name your executable setup.exe.
UAC pops up on those. Or at least it did in Vista. Can't repro now on 7 :S
 
has anyone ever implemented Euler's Totient function?
 
seems you have to know the prime factors of N before you can calculate phi(n)
 
lol
 
user1151738
for other executables ?
 
user1151738
11:42 AM
@Martinho just asking, what OS do you have now ?
 
7
Q: Selectively disabling UAC for specific programs on Windows 7

Mehper C. PalavuzlarI have some programs running on start-up like Everything. UAC prompts every time the Windows starts. How can I set a program to make sure that no intervening prompt would appear during start-up?

 
Hmm, yep, seems they fixed it in 7. You can now name your executables setup.exe without requiring elevation.
 
@sehe I think I suffer from the same problem :P
 
user1151738
nono
 
user1151738
no..no..
 
11:44 AM
know know
 
user1151738
what i meant is I want admin priv request every time i run a executable
 
But you are being a little less clingy for answers at the same time.
I'm sure when you are actively requesting help, you'd be a little bit more careful about the apparent effort put into your questions
 
sbi
@cadhityaa You have been explained that your attitude to "ask questions" is not welcome here. Users, especially so @sehe, have patiently explained time and again what's wrong and what you should do instead. Now you are, again politely and patiently, pointed out the newbie hints — and all you answer is "k, can you answer my question?" FFS, I am gonna plonk you now, but if you do not learn, people will start to flag you — which gets you banned.
 
@cadhityaa You know there are these super cool sites, called StackOverflow.com (for programming questions), and superuser.com (for more general computer/OS questions). So *why on Earth do you spend hours throwing questions into a C++ chat room which is basically dedicated to slacking and avoiding having to work?
 
@sbi He just made my ignore list. WorksForMe (TM)
 
11:45 AM
Why do we have to do all your work in getting trivial software to work? Why don't you do the effort of finding the right people to ask, instead of just accosting random strangers and repeatedly asking them until they do your research for you?
 
sbi
@sehe "I am gonna plonk you now"
 
@sbi "No..no.." just about did it for me. Too much eloquence for me. I didn't have a matching way to announce my impending plonk, humbly decided to keep quiet about it.
 
user1151738
lol...you all planned this against me ? coz it all came at the same time...
 
@cadhityaa We didn't plan anything, and we are not "against" you or anyone else
But you are wasting our time, and you are wasting your own time
If you want to write software, write software. When it doesn't work, research why. If you want others to write it for you, or do your research for you, then hire someone to do that
 
@sehe oh yeah, when asking question I would do my best to get rid of errors, then edit about a dozen times with each new error I spot once I submit it, and then the ones I do not spot
 
11:50 AM
@thecoshman I do the same.
 
user1151738
byee..happy avoiding-to-work-ing :)
 
this chat room does not exist to answer programming questions. I'm not sure why you thought that was the case, but it isn't. No one minds if people ask quick questions which are easy and quick to answer (or if the problem is interesting in itself), but this isn't a helpdesk, it's not a support hotline, and it's not a Q&A website. It's just a small number of assorted software developers slacking
6
 
I hate oneboxing
@jalf Well spoken! :)
 
I'm not 'slaking' I'm filling in the time whilst I wait for others :D

ok, I'm slaking :(
 
who wants to go troll the C++ channel by asking C++ questions with me
 
11:53 AM
lol
@stdOrgnlDave on IRC?
 
no right here
I was going to say "the PHP channel" but it fits just as well here
 
we're being trolled all the time
trollz everywhere
 
I ask C++ questions that appear to be legitimate, but really, I'm just trying to crash your compiler
@jalf you around?
 
nice work there :P
 
@stdOrgnlDave let's bring a few billion pointers with us
 
11:54 AM
ugh, pointers
 
IM A MEGA* PROGRAMMER WOO
 
@TonyTheLion trolly troll trollington trolling trolls trolls trolling trolly trolls
 
@stdOrgnlDave jalf is more interested in ranting. trolling is for the weak-of-heart :)
 
sbi
@sehe There's a lot of Europeans here who are not offended by nudity, but bring one naked pointer, and they'll all scream abuse at you.
5
 
no, I wanted to talk videogames with @jalf
 
11:56 AM
@sbi I didn't know that the continent or current geographical situation had any influence on that phenomenon
 
trol lol lol lol
 
@stdOrgnlDave oh, good.
 
@sbi I like how it was who sexualises pointers for me
 
pointer porn
 
@TonyTheLion mine actually make sense, if accept the various forms of troll as words
 
11:57 AM
Mar 7 at 14:24, by FredOverflow
Anyway, I'm familar with "raw pointers" and "naked pointers", but what are "fucking pointers"?
 
Aug 18 '11 at 20:48, by Cat Plus Plus
"Pointer tutorial: 1. Pointers point at things. 2. Don't use pointers. 3. Read a book."
 
I wonder what a nullptr is in the context of pointer porn. the thing you check for and reject if you get it...accidentally clicking 'granny' on youporn?
 
std::pointer_fuck()
 
sbi
@thecoshman Parser error, bailing out...
 
std::iterator_traitor
to quote a robot
 
11:58 AM
@sbi where was the error?
 
I would quote the robot, but he is a robot, and the 3 laws demand that he shut up and pretend it's mine
 
@stdOrgnlDave that's more like if (NULL==p) then. #define GRANNY NULL. I think #define SM nullptr is more like it
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Please don't interfere with the slacking. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@stdOrgnlDave it's probably the friend zone of pointers
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm interfering already!
 
user1151738
would my rep still be reduced even after I del a question ?
 
sbi
11:59 AM
@sehe I meant "Europeans" as a social group, as opposed to "Merkins", who say "fuck!" about thrice an hour, but faint when someone dares to speak about "Brainfuck".
 
oh remember our discussion about using "cute names?" like #define fuck_no false
well here's one for you
 
#define fucking_disgusting_granny_porn false
 

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