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10:00 PM
@Xeo I think I recall which city... not sure if that's public though?
 
@MadameElyse ewwww thats gross
 
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@JerryCoffin well say like I know the positions of a bunch of sprites over a period time, and I had all the input of a game controller over the same range of time and I wanted to correlate those two datasets in order to figure out the input influences sprite behaviour? is that, generally speaking, a question for neural networks to figure out or do I have to come up with some new thing?
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Let's just say, close to Düsseldorf.
 
I've been there!
 
@Xeo Dust your own dwarf
 
sbi
10:01 PM
@thecoshman It is. It's not noteworthy, though. (And not a city, I believe.)
 
Does that mean that I finally get to meet @Xeo at uncon?
 
I need to add support to nonius for things that test increasing workloads.
 
@TonyTheLion If you come to it you will
 
@thecoshman I'll cum
 
@TonyTheLion I didn't want to go there, but sure
 
sbi
10:01 PM
@TonyTheLion How do you draw this "conclusion" from the conversation before it??
 
Xeo
Oh yeah, I also put in my vacation, so I think I'm all set for uncon
 
@ThePhD @R.MartinhoFernandes, help this man
 
@Xeo oh I should do that too
 
Xeo
(I've actually taken off the whole two weeks surrounding uncon, for a bit of relaxing)
 
and this Tuesday afternoon
 
10:02 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь It's already a feature request in nonius's issue tracker
I'm going to have to add it myself.
 
@Xeo that's what work is for :D
 
@MeltyButter There may be a simpler way, but yes, you can almost certainly get a neural network to figure out the relationship.
 
@sbi Because we've had plenty of Uncon conversations before
 
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@JerryCoffin will you do it for me?
 
sbi
10:03 PM
@TonyTheLion But the conversation was about him living close to NL?
 
Anyone any idea how big a place 'Nieuwegein' is? Seems to be closest area for this job
 
@sbi I'm not thinking straight ok, leave me alone. Its been a long day
 
@sbi He's in his own little world
 
should call it EUconf coz only Europeans turning up for the conf
 
sbi
10:03 PM
@MeltyButter I am sure @Jerry has a neural network available. At least I haven't heard of his head being non-human, so...
"Where I work, we have our own term for the Not Invented Here Syndrom."sbi Dec 4 '15 at 6:21
 
@набиячлэвэлиь yes yes, I too can google things, but I want actual information, not just facts
 
@MeltyButter I dunno. I'm busy enough that I rarely do much consulting any more.
 
@thecoshman pfffft
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Wow, you're touchy! Well, there you go.
 
oh, 'Vianen' is the provice
 
10:05 PM
Wow, the comments on that answer.
 
> Founder & CTO at Rayan Pardazesh Espand
I used to be founder and CEO at this indie gamedev company in 10th grade
lol
 
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@JerryCoffin dont you think thatd be a hugely lucrative avenue of research though? I mean, surely, if you can do that, then you can tap into how computer games work at a fundamental level and therefore, automate the creation of video games and make big $$$
 
(I went bankrupt obviously)
(jk)
 
I am sure if that's lucrative & easy, someone else would have done it
 
user3047181
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper people probly thought that before facebook got big :P
 
10:09 PM
@AlexM. Were you a FourStarBrogrammer back then?
 
many people made facebook-likes before facebook
 
@набиячлэвэлиь a what?
 
facebook became popular mainly because of luck and the people that were on it
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion :)
 
10:09 PM
@MeltyButter The relationship between game controller input and sprite movement is generally quite trivial. It would usually only tell you about the game at an extremely superficial level. The information it generated would normally already be extremely well known anyway (typically so obvious that most games don't even bother to document things like: "pushing the stick to the left will make your character move left").
 
@набиячлэвэлиь no I was using C#
 
are you a two star brogrammer now?
 
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@JerryCoffin yeah yeah but also monitor sprite interaction... from that you can infer all the important aspects of super mario bros or legend of zelda or whatever. Then imagine you could combine the data from different games like that, the system would come up with weird new ways of designing and interacting with video games!
 
I kinda still feel bad about that project thing, got several interested people to help me out but when I saw that we were getting nowhere I just pulled the plug in an asshole-ish way
wasted everyone's time
w/e I probably won't meet them ever again
 
10:12 PM
@MeltyButter I think you're drastically over-rating the importance of a fairly minor aspect of game design.
 
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@JerryCoffin yeah level design and story and like, goals, would be missing, but the most important of vidyas is more basic than that innit?
 
@thecoshman I'm close to Rotterdam. Drop me note if anything concrete is up
 
Sorry to butt in, but is anyone running Linux here who could check for leaks in a short C program of mine?
 
@sehe what about Vianen?
 
Using clang address sanitizer or valgrind.
 
10:15 PM
@Owatch lol, I'm not running some random code
 
@Owatch You can do that
 
I can't use clang
's sanitizers
 
> boost/predef.h
When does the fucking tree end
 
@Owatch Get better, then
 
install a linux VM
 
10:16 PM
It just doesn't run for me, and the Documentation says its not supported on Operating systems besides Linux.
 
When am I going to not need Another Boost Module™
 
@ThePhD Every single part of Boost depends on all others, thrice
 
@thecoshman Near Utrecht. Not close to either of us, really. Depends on how you intend to arrive (by plane in R'dam airport could lead to a meet up, depending on date&time, by boat could be close too)
 
LITERALLY A THING THAT'S REAL
 
@sehe I've no idea
 
10:17 PM
@ThePhD It doesn't. Also, it ends when you use BCP (to confirm you need the lot)
 
Oh right, I'll just go practice re-running the commands in the Docs and it'll eventually work, even though I'm on an unsupported OS. Thanks for the suggestion набиячлэвэлиь.
 
@ThePhD You can expect Boost.Core, Boost.Assert, Boost.Config and Boost.Predef to appear almost everywhere.
 
I imagine I will fly, stay in Amsterdam and drive around for the few days
make it a bit of a break
 
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oh look, another rape in Cologne
 
@Morwenn Why aren't these all in Boost.Core, who's mission is "conglomerate all of the boost libraries used by other boost libraries"?
 
10:17 PM
uhoh - lemme keep my kids inside
 
but hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves, I've not even phoned them yet :P
 
@Owatch On Windooze you can use Dr.Memory, which is an offspawn of valgrind for windows
 
I'm not on Windows.
 
@MadameElyse well I'd be surprised if none happened from now on. Did you count rapes in Rotterdam over the weekend?
 
I'm on OS X.
 
10:18 PM
@ThePhD Except Boost.Config and Boost.Predef :p
 
I already said that.
 
In various ways now
 
@Owatch No, you didn't
 
user3047181
if sir isaac newton came on here and said "hmm I was thinking maybe all mass attracts other mass towards it", you lads would be like, "naaah man, don't bother with that, life's too complicated to be understood" :(
 
@Owatch Funny you should say that, valgrind works on OSX
 
10:19 PM
You're right, I didn't. Wrote that elsewhere.
 
user1804599
RTBF journalist got raped in public.
 
btw it's still not too late to run a linux VM
 
@MeltyButter We'd be like « lol, impossible, we're not attracted towards your mom », and then laugh like kids.
 
> 'boost/type_traits/is_integral.hpp'
 
faster than asking ppl for help
lubuntu would've finished downloading by now
 
10:19 PM
If there's a Boost.TypeTraits github repo, ISTG
 
@sehe yeah, I'll take Amsterdam :P
 
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@sehe Doesn't make it any better.
 
Val grind does, but I've yet to find an easy way to install it besides using home-brew, which I don't really want to have to install.
In any case, it's all good.
 
Sob
What does "Core" mean to these people?
 
@Owatch use a VM ffs
 
10:20 PM
Everyone thinks I'm going to run exploits on their machines or something, so I'll just go and use a system running Linux elsewhere.
 
@MadameElyse who cares. It being in Cologne doesn't make it any more important
 
@ThePhD The only type trait in Boost.Core is is_same because it's the most used.
 
@Owatch also, lazy :P
 
@thecoshman him? yea
or a troll
 
Haha, and I don't even use Boost...
 
10:21 PM
@ThePhD Use bcp and copy the resulting tree. Alternatively, just have it list the required stuff and don't browse that tree
 
@ThePhD hard-core
 
I guess.
 
Who's up for Drumbling?
@AlexM. no, me :P
 
It would be cool to have a clean C++11 version of Boost where everything already in the standard library is stripped from Boost.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Part of this is also for nonius: I need to know exactly what to submodule so I can submit a PR to Robot with all of the necessary git repos to submodule to make nonius a one-stop-shop that can self-referentially include boost.
@Morwenn usings all the way down would be neato.
 
10:23 PM
See you all later when I need something from you all again.
 
...
 
Later, Ovamps.
> 'boost/mpl/if.hpp'
... I... wut.
 
Later.
 
I guess the math library could use mpl.
Let me guess
if I'm using MPL, I'm probably going to need boost.pp too
:O
 
BCP
 
10:26 PM
KREYGASM IS BUILT ON ITS OWN
I REACHED THE END OF THE TREE
 
What do you need Boost for already?
 
@Morwenn nonius
 
everything apparently
 
@ThePhD So just chrono?
 
No, chrono was replaced by the std version
 
10:28 PM
any body could make 64 bit boost asio work?
 
This is all for boost.math
 
hmm i think boost was already optional
 
user1804599
Boost is never optional.
 
user1804599
-1 too little Boost
 
@a.aniq of course. That doens't make any sense
@MadameElyse except for boost::optional
 
10:28 PM
I remember robot saying he'd reimplement the math functions one by one but it takes time.
 
@sehe I would have made a joke but it’d just be a variant of yours
 
I tried compiling with msvc 2013 x64, but didn't work, whereas it worked in x86
I use qt btw
 
When I need a specific small part of Boost, I just copy it in my project and replace the Boost components by standard library ones.
 
user1804599
emerge boost
 
If I didn't copy-paste things directly into it, my library would probably rely on 5~6 external libraries.
 
10:31 PM
@a.aniq sounds like you need to post a SSCCE on Stack Overflow. Make sure you describe what happens (instead of saying "it doesn't work" - biggest no-no in question asking since the bronze age)
 
> 'boost/preprocessor/cat.hpp'
Shit.
I got too excited and missed this dependency. .-.
 
Haha!
 
@ThePhD BCP
 
But... but but... ;~;
 
was thinking of doing it, thought if anybody else faced the same problem, btw many other boost headers are working no prob.
 
10:33 PM
furrovine-bcp
 
but what?
@a.aniq this one is too. I predict with 80% certainty the error is actually a linker error. And with 80% certainty, that means there isn't a 64 bit build of Boost System dll
I'm not a masochist so I don't use windows enough to know more, but if this is the case the answer is already on SO. If you can't figure it out, you need to post there so people can help you translate the error for you
@ThePhD in case
 
so asio uses something special, which other headers don't need?
 
Nope
 
Will we have executors for C++17?
 
I hope so (well done, yes please)
 
10:38 PM
They seemed to abstract some things in a pretty interesting way.
 
@a.aniq All I just said was that Boost System isn't header-only. And boost docs tell you that right at the start boost.org/doc/libs/1_60_0/more/getting_started/…
 
If we have them and they play well with execution policies, I guess we'll have some interesting parallelism tools.
 
@TemplateRex Just noticed your fold expr question, it looks like fold defaults are on the way out
 
I want reducers too.
 
I used other headers in x64 no prob previously, but recently faced prob with boost::asio header, will post a question regarding this. Hope, you guys will be able to shed some light on it.
 
10:41 PM
Yeah headers don't work on x64, you need modules.
 
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@a.aniq you keep glossing over things. Congratulations that you faced a problem. I'm sorry to hear you feel you shouldn't be facing a problem.
@melak47 stop. We'll just ignore or kick. If you start trolling vamps, I'll have to kick you. It'll just create more noise
 
user1804599
I'm surprised by the number of people who got qsort and bsearch, assuming they didn't cheat.
 
user1804599
qsort and bsearch are extremely obscure.
 
user1804599
Not as obscure as partial_sort_copy though.
 
10:44 PM
@MadameElyse What's that?
 
user3047181
@MadameElyse pfft i know qsrch
 
No, John. You are the problems.
 
@MadameElyse me too. I don't consider them C++ at all. Likewise for max/min I don't consider them algorithms. I had to dig really hard to think of the heap functions. And I basically randomly tried some _n / _copy variations at a given point
@MadameElyse partial_sort_copy is actually so convenient. It's way more convenient than partial_sort
 
user1804599
I knew there was lexicographical_compare, just didn't know its name, so I tried "operator<". :)
 
10:46 PM
I'm disappoint
 
So.
If I could jsut take a moment
 
user1804599
set_symmetric_difference was also a guess
 
to think this through
 
@sehe ok :(
 
user1804599
I didn't know it existed
 
10:47 PM
Turns out that if I try really hard by specializing, I can beat Pantoona at the memory game. Once in a decade
 
boost.exception... is a separate library... from boost.throw_exception
... But why?
 
RTFM
 
Bwwwuuuuuh.
 
anyone taking odds on Puppy Bowl?
 
user1804599
 
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10:49 PM
lol I just found this
 
user1804599
@jbogard only on Superb Owl
 
IRC abuse IRC
 
user1804599
lol irc.loungecpp.net/2016-02-04.log refresh refresh refresh
 
user1804599
IRC is so slow.
 
@MadameElyse I remember this
 
10:53 PM
@MadameElyse what? how do you work that out?
 
user1804599
It looks very nice in the logs. :)
 
also, mumble
 
@MadameElyse the answer stats are the most interesting part of this quiz
 
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@milleniumbug :P
 
10:55 PM
@MadameElyse Only 57/92 :(
 
@MadameElyse I'm very tempted to bin that
it takes half my screen space
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion repost it instead, on e.g. IRC
 
meh no
 
user1804599
also get a larger monitor
 
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10:56 PM
so you can monitor multiple chats for incoming vault boys
 
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and bin them all in parallel
 
hey a video of my game survived!
I copied arx fatalis
I wish I still have the video with the bread bug
 
fun title
 
I messed up something and the dough kept growing until it got bigger than the cave
 

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