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9:00 PM
> Other than a nice bouquet of design smells I don't see anything wrong with it
@BartekBanachewicz I liked this summary
 
@sehe Exquisite.
 
A male USB fits right into an ethernet port.
 
> I consider the documentation to be the most important part of the library. So if you find anything that isn't documented, isn't clear, or has out of date documentation, tell me and I will fix it.
 
blargh blargh blargh, I need some motivation - hit me (please)!
 
@FilipRoséen-refp bang
 
9:07 PM
what an awesome dev
 
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@FilipRoséen-refp get back to work
 
@FilipRoséen-refp go prep for your google interview
 
@Prismatic already had it, it went shit - no google for me this time around. :-/
@TechnikEmpire this isn't work though, I'm working on the next article to publish
 
damn :[
 
@Prismatic damn indeed
 
9:09 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp Have you checked out dlib.net
god like documentation... such a nice c++ lib
 
but heck, I'm not too bummed up about it anymore - shit happens, etc. etc.
@Prismatic I haven't. is it a general purpose library? I guess I could just read the description on that page though
> Dlib is a general purpose cross-platform C++ library designed using ...
 
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@FilipRoséen-refp Oh sorry, you asked for motivation. Let me try another generic motivator. "You can do it! You're special! cheers, whistles"
 
yup, should have read the contents of that page before asking questions
 
Yes its a quite thorough general purpose lib. Lots of cool stuff in it
 
@Prismatic it's ugly
 
9:10 PM
@Prismatic maybe it doesn't come as a surprise that I inspect the "metaprogramming" section the first thing I do
 
it's also for C++03 era
it's time to move on bub
 
yeah. looks like it
 
@Rapptz YOU'RE UGLY
 
Your mother is ugly
 
Wow.
 
9:11 PM
puppy, is that you
 
IS IT
Nope just me
 
@Rapptz That's what your mom (god, isn't she a bitch?) told you to say, isn't it?
 
@Rapptz Your mother's turtle's son's mother's owner is fat!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Where on reddit?
 
Jokes on you guys. My mom isn't here.
 
9:15 PM
@Columbo that's called flagging
 
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@Jefffrey I think he meant this reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37d5xh/…
 
@FilipRoséen-refp what do you think made them say no (or did you?)
@Rapptz ETOOWITTY
 
@sehe There's a your mom joke hidden in there.
 
@sehe I think I'm not just the type of guy they are looking for, especially since I lack any formal uni-education (in terms of compsci). Another aspect was that I as really ill at the time (without me, or them, knowing it) - the fever probably didn't help
 
9:21 PM
MX Clears too :)
 
@sehe not knowing the ins and outs of algorithm complexity, while still being able to reason about why one algorithm is faster than another, seemed not good enough.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp you gave them ebola on your job interview? o.O
 
But how can it be perfect if its a mechanical
 
@Prismatic Mechanical > Membrane
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I can see this happening. They can't really get much better qualified c++ wankers, of course. But yeah, it's in their good right/common sense to expect the CS foundations (I'd also flunk them. You can ask me about depth and operation upperbounds for Fibonacci Heaps and I'd draw... almost blank)
 
9:23 PM
@sehe hmm.. who knows haha! I thought I was feeling "a bit" ill, and after the interview I went home and literally collapsed on the floor. My girlfriend found me on the couch some hour later, and she noticed that I was running a really high fever
 
@Nooble WHAT? SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF YOUR KEYBOARD
7
 
lame
 
@Prismatic MX Clears are silent.
 
oh
 
Also, your ep grows larger the louder your keyboard gets.
 
9:24 PM
@sehe that's the thing, and also what I heard from other engineers at google. They are looking for a quite narrow set of individuals, and the interviews are made to find these - if you are not in that particular range (for whatever reason) it is quite hard to get through
 
mechanical keyboards (and other non-island/chiclet keyboards) get gross though and are hard to clean
 
@TechnikEmpire I see
 
thats actually a bigger gripe for me than the noise
 
@Nooble ep?
 
e-points
 
9:25 PM
@Prismatic they get what? Why. What on earth would make them "more gross" than membrane?
 
@sehe EP
 
@Nooble It's quite crappy, I think.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like them. I mean it looks nice.
 
@sehe @Jefffrey are you guys interested in reading the draft of the upcoming article?
 
Definitely overpriced, at least.
 
9:25 PM
@sehe that criticism was directed at everything that isn't "non-island/chiclet"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Agreed.
 
@Nooble It looks... standard.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think so too:
 
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@Prismatic I love everyone on every floor of my house knowing that I'm typing something though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes By "looks nice" I meant in terms of features.
 
9:27 PM
@sehe that address works fine for me
 
@TechnikEmpire how barbaric
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Sure, but I think you have pinged the wrong dude.
 
@nick I bet it did. I have a higher-than-average security browser
 
@sehe why bother though, when you're using linux?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What keyboard do you have?
 
9:29 PM
@Jefffrey oh damn, yeah - I quite often get you mixed up with @JerryCoffin
 
@nick Nice try
 
@FilipRoséen-refp same here
@sehe serious question though haha
 
@Jefffrey are you on freenode or EFnet?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp If you post a link, I'll take a look when I get a chance.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp IRC? Yes.
 
9:31 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp Mostly on FUnet. But you knew that, since you're already here...
 
@JerryCoffin it is not publically available yet, heck - it's not 100% finished to be honest, but I doubt that I will change any existing wording beyond typos and such
 
@JerryCoffin He prefers privacy, ;)
 
@Columbo I just do not want to link drafts in public places, since they are (obviously) not ready for public viewing
@JerryCoffin I don't even know what FUnet is to be honest, and if that was some joke it went straight over my head swooosh
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Fair enough. If you want to email a link to my name (with a dot between first and last) at gmail, I'll go from there.
 
@JerryCoffin thank you, you should have a link in your inbox in a few minutes - I just have to push the contents out
 
9:34 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp Yes, a lame joke (FU = "Fuck You").
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, that was humiliating. First I forgot hashtables existed. Then I couldn't words.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how do you like those chiclet keys?
 
It feels nice with negative tilt.
@nick I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
er
 
9:36 PM
Though, I don't like the buttons on the F-row (WTF were they thinking?).
 
the flat laptop-style keys
 
that mouse just looks like a tit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes god damn thats hot
I want one
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes think macbook
 
I'm looking for something like Portmon that works on win 7
 
9:38 PM
@nick Oh. They're ok.
 
might need to reverse engineer the protocol for talking to a device over serial port
 
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@Prismatic lol
 
@JohanLarsson what for...
 
rapoo makes keyboards that look really good
 
you still have a serial port on your machine?
 
9:39 PM
they're probably terrible to type on though
 
hm they are pretty sexy though
 
@Prismatic I was starting to get serious wrist pain before that, and since work paid for it, I decided to try it out. I'm rather happy.
Also, no wires is best.
 
i can't use wireless keyboards because of the extra delay
 
how am i supposed to smash scrubs in CS:GO if i have an extra .0001 ms delay?
 
9:41 PM
@nick Yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about again.
Oh. Sarcasm.
 
@Prismatic god damn thats a huge trackpad
 
@sehe this. Sent an email asking for specifications.
 
@Prismatic Yeah, that has at least the same flaws as mine.
 
@nick Radio signal propagates through air faster than electrical signal through a wire.
 
I prefer mice.
 
9:42 PM
Arrow keys shoved in with the rest; Home-cluster blown apart.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes somebody bent the keyboard; I hope you had a discount for that
 
Unfortunately I don't think the track pad is multitouch
 
@JerryCoffin even if that's true, there can still be delays on either end
 
@JerryCoffin doesn't electrical signal propagate at c/2?
 
@MooingDuck Shhhh!
 
9:43 PM
@JerryCoffin Raw speed doesn't mean so much since wire goes direct to destination through relatively interference-free artifical channel and radio signal through air does not
 
@ScarletAmaranth Depends on the insulation, but typically around 2/3rds C.
 
@sehe and this
 
They have a wireless island style mechanical which looks interesting
 
@JohanLarsson teh awesomes
 
how do you mean?
 
9:44 PM
@JerryCoffin how do you imagine the radio signal being faster than that?
 
@JohanLarsson interesting machines
 
@Jeremy The mouse feels surprisingly nice as well. My coworker bought just the mouse later on after trying mine.
 
@JerryCoffin you got mail!
 
@ScarletAmaranth Er. Is that a joke?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm, maybe I will. I've settled on a keyboard, but haven't found my mouse yet.
Though, ideally, I'd never have to touch the mouse :)
 
9:45 PM
@sehe do you know anything that works like wireshark but for serialport?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, I am genuinely clueless :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. The amount of wit in the lounge is palpable today
@JohanLarsson Nope. I think most things are USB oriented these days
 
@ScarletAmaranth c is the speed of radio.
 
I guess I could find an xp computer and use portmon
 
@ScarletAmaranth Radio signal through air is something like .99 C.
 
9:46 PM
radio signal should be the speed of light :) but there is some delay during encoding/decoding the signal
 
"Are you Cicada"
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Okay, I'll take a look.
 
(in vacuum, but in atmosphere is not too different)
 
ah, alright, alright; hide your pitchforks
 
@Jeremy soon
 
9:47 PM
where is cicada anyways? haven't seen him lately
 
@ScarletAmaranth covert assassination ordered
 
@sehe they are usb but show up as serial ports. Also industry stuff tends to be rs232 very often still.
 
@nick be here more often
 
@sehe good point
 
Yeah, serial port protocols are still very common.
 
9:47 PM
@nick there's "the speed of light = c", and "the speed that light actually travels when we do stuff on earth < c"
 
Just the hardware is being dropped.
 
@sehe not sure why I've been under the impression that it's somehow slower ^^
 
@ScarletAmaranth latency caused by teh hardware on the ends
 
@MooingDuck The difference is negligible for pretty much any mundane purpose.
 
serial port is nice for many things, simple.
 
9:48 PM
unless you're trying to smash scrubs in CS:GO
 
@JohanLarsson that makes it easier. I suppose you should be able to find that monitor thing. I don't meddle with these things, and all usable applications seem to be commercial (AFAIR). But there are likely to be "tcpdump-grade" apps
 
in which case its life or death
 
@JohanLarsson I'm aware of this
 
@sehe ok I did not mean it as an attack on your bearson :)
 
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@nick or trying to OMA tubes people into rage on mw2
 
9:49 PM
@JohanLarsson Dunno how much data you need to inspect, but for very rudimentary stuff I just use PuTTY.
 
@JohanLarsson Parallel port is more fun.
 
I know the electronics guys use some other software.
I can ask them tomorrow if you want.
 
That would be great, ping if you get a reply.
 
@TechnikEmpire I never figured out how people get kills with the noob tube.. every time i use it i fail miserably
 
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@nick gotta use one man army pro with danger close pro with m203 on m4a1
 
9:51 PM
@JohanLarsson are you accusing me of arson?
 
@sehe polar bears don't like warmth
 
prezoiçely
 
@Nooble At home I just have some wireless keyboard I found in a local shop that doesn't have those silly noisy keys and has a full non-molested layout without "special keys" in all the wrong places.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey, uh...what's this mean? :(
 
9:54 PM
@melak47 Your benchmark throws?
Are you running with debug iterators or something?
 
on debug it runs, slowly.
in release it explodes :(
 
Hmm, your code seems fine, though.
 
he should be using std::iota there tho :P
 
Xeo
@melak47 what version of VS?
 
Can you gist that code?
 
9:57 PM
@melak47 Why does the anon-function return a value?
 
@Nican dunno, robot's example did that so I do too :v
 
heh I thought that was obvious
:(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :o
 
Do you do const volatile auto& ret = f();?
 
9:59 PM
Yeah, something like that.
 

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