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9:00 PM
There is one advantage of coding in another language though - less naming conflicts with everybody else.
 
do polish people celebrate nationally when a new witcher is released?
 
@AlexM. now now
At least use "Ms" prefix.
 
@milleniumbug Use a language that prevents the problem completely. Brainfuck FTW!
 
@AlexM. I didn't, so you can't say all of them do.
 
Bitch mKurwa;
 
9:02 PM
@JerryCoffin Or stack-based languages maybe.
 
She can't be a Ms., she's a member.
 
Bitch karma;
 
Xeo
lady mlady;
 
Or is Brainfuck already a stack-based language..?
 
@ThePhD Hey, I found a better prefix: Mc.
int chicken(); int McChicken;
 
9:04 PM
I didn't eat mcdonalds today
great success
 
user3010322
I'll just mix & match when it's convenient!~
 
I didn't either! I had Subway.
They have a new sub with Fritos and shredded chicken enchilada meat
fucking delicious
 
Xeo
I had a single slice of crisp bread with cheese and some muesli right now
 
I just pick my own ingredients at subway
 
@Xeo That's kinda meager. Or maybe not..
 
9:05 PM
italian bread with pressed turkey cheese and cheese cream with vegetables and two sauces
no that's turkey, cheese not turkey cheese
there's no such thing as turkey cheese
get it right people
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked it is, I guess
oh, and also 2 bananas
 
@AlexM. Thanks for the info.
I'm feel so unhealthy now.
 
@AlexM. I beg to differ.
 
Oh wait. I am living unhealthily.
 
I started working out earlier this week
then ended up having a numb leg and foot for an entire day because my nerves weren't used to me working out
I had to go into the urgent care and make sure I wasn't about to have a stroke or a heart attack
 
9:09 PM
really?
 
Nope, they said I was just fucking unhealthy as shit and need to start working out more carefully.
 
did you overwork it?
ah yes
 
I dunno, I ran on a Nordic Track ProSkier for 10 minutes three nights in a row
 
I think I'll stop betting stuff
luck is too inconsistent to be worth pursuing
 
@fredoverflow I'd guess that is mostly because Hello World does not actually require much (as evidenced by the mov dx, 200; mov ah, d9; int 21h; type of program that achieves the same on some systems
 
9:13 PM
@StackedCrooked Forth still has names.
 
@AlexM. Is there an addiction you haven't tried?
 
drugs but I'm not interested in trying
 
Women.
 
and women
definitely interested
too sad tho
 
user3010322
I'm able to stay away from drugs because severe asthma dictates if I try I'll drop dead or something.
 
9:14 PM
you know I imagined VR going big
 
@AlexM. hehe. This makes you so mindful :S
 
and sad people building their own worlds where they're happy
i.e. where their loved ones are brought back from the dead or where they're rich
I think drugs are the same
just a fake reality in which you descend
 
user3010322
Or ascend. Or slide into. Sideways!
 
@AlexM. I strongly suggest you never do. Because it seems to me you have that natural amenability to/pre-disposition for addictions that they sometimes talk about :S
 
@StackedCrooked Nope. Doesn't require a stack at all, though it does have loops, and many implementations use a stack to keep track of the top of all current loops.
 
9:16 PM
Slideways, with WD-40.
Wait, you weren't talking about women anymore
 
user1804599
I should find out how to find all uses of a function using ctags.
 
@AlexM. I'm quite dependent on my gummy vitamins.
 
@rightfold cscope; also, indexing source code tags doesn't make functions useful :)
 
The only drug I'll ever try is weed. (and alcohol, but that's a lifestyle here in Milwaukee)
 
@ThePhD recently my doctor started prescribing Symbicort. It's an inhaler that combines short-term and long-term relief. It's so convenient.
 
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9:17 PM
@sehe thanks.
 
in fact, 4/20 is next monday. Debating calling in sick.
 
@ShotgunNinja now already?
 
@rightfold I think I remember idtools being a thing, but that's no doubt even older and more crippled
 
Well no, on Monday.
 
alcohol is ok unless you get wasted all the time like people without measure do
nothing quite like a gin & tonic with lots of ice in the evening
 
9:18 PM
@ShotgunNinja I guess quite a few people in Colorado are planning major parties.
 
@JerryCoffin and California. My sister lives out there.
 
What's the beef with 4/20?
 
@JerryCoffin because he's calling in sick?
 
@sehe it's International Marijuana Day
 
^
 
9:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's... rather depressing.
 
Gosh.
 
@ShotgunNinja ah
 
@sehe Some meme.
420 blaze it.
 
back in the '70s, it was used as a code for weed because it was supposedly the LA police calling code for marijuana possession.
 
smoke weed errday
 
9:20 PM
Of course
 
and it's still used today
not by police, but by stoners and hippies
 
Thanks. Don't call in sick. Unless, of course, you're sick
 
well duh
 
@ShotgunNinja I don't think it goes back quite that far. Pretty sure I didn't hear it used until the early '90s or so.
 
I don't get that many sick days a year, and I'm down to 15 1/2 hours
@JerryCoffin well, your knowledge of the history of pot is probably far more advanced than mine.
 
9:23 PM
@ShotgunNinja I'm pretty sure it was a lot more common when I was growing up (or at least was the age that normal kids would have been growing up). When I graduated from high school, I'd guess there were fewer than 5% of us who'd never smoked pot at all (but no, I hadn't).
 
well still, I never smoked until I was 22
I'm 23 now
 
You're not cool if you don't smoke eucalyptus.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel You know I still don't know what Gamergate actually was. It implies it's like watergate... but all I keep seeing is #gamergate, and no explanation.
 
@ThePhD It's... messy.
 
@Nooble I'm too old to be cool--and even when I was young, I wasn't cool anyway.
 
9:27 PM
The real issue is that it's a leaderless movement with no real manifesto or creed.
So anyone can claim they're part of GG just by saying it.
 
@JerryCoffin You're cool in our hearts :)
 
Officially, they say they're about "ethics in video game journalism", although their definition of "ethics" is also fuzzy.
 
The less you know, the happier you will be.
Keep calm and play good games.
 
personally I'm not aware of any evidence that any actual ethical violations took place
 
From what I understand, they (and I use "they" to mean "this vague blob of people on the Internet") consider "ethical" to mean "objective".
Which is fine in the context of news, but then they also want that to apply to reviews.
 
9:29 PM
Although this summarizing the whole issue: smbc-comics.com/?id=2939
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I suggest you need to re frame this question around crypto, not udp/multicast. The credentials are firmly and exclusively in the realm of application protocol, and the transport seems completely irrelevant there. Consider posting on crypto.stackexchange.com (read their guidelins). I'm pretty sure Bruce Schneier has something for this in his "Applied Cryptography" but it may take me a while to find a fit, so I'll leave it to the buffs to name it — sehe 1 min ago
 
oshit I left my cheese out on the side.
 
And, if you start looking into it, you start to see GG for what it really is: it has nothing to do with gaming.
Its figureheads are not gamers. They right-wing pundits who never touched a game in their life.
They consider games to be boxed products designed to be consumed and then discarded.
 
@Nican nice one
@Nooble frigid, even
 
And they're into conspiracy theories about gaming being overtaken by the left.
 
9:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Which they pretty much are, really.
the main thing that makes games different is that once you consume them, you can then consume them again and again indefinitely.
 
@Puppy Depends. Many people, me included, also like to think of games as a form of artistic expression, like a film or a book.
 
user3010322
So I should probably learn how to write a proper lexer.
 
But for GG, a game is like a car. It's a list of features that shouldn't really challenge you.
 
user3010322
Because my HLSL Lexer is kinda dumb.
 
I don't really consider that a refutation of my opinion.
what would you do with art if not consume it? Lock it away in a drawer?
I mean, you can also consume a painting as many times as you like instead of just once.
but I don't think that changes the fundamental relationship
 
9:36 PM
@Puppy That's not what I meant by "consume".
GG is just another iteration of the movement described above.
(except with a reactionary right wing stance)
 
oh boy
 
@EtiennedeMartel You meant, literally bite and chew on it?
 
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@Rapptz Welcome home!
 
@sehe Almost.
 
Great. My comment was starred with my bad English, and I can not edit it.
 
9:39 PM
@Nican No one outside of anti-GGers and GGers care about GG.
So it very much is exactly like the last panel.
 
@ThePhD The origin is that the author of a game broke up with her boyfriend. After the breakup, he claimed she had an affair with a video game reviewer, and (at least) implied that part of the positive reviews of the game stemmed from that, rather than objective evaluation of the merits of the game itself. That specific incident, however, has mostly faded into the background, and it's mostly turned into games being used as a battleground between liberals and conservatives.
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user3010322
... How did liberals and conservatives get involved from that...?
 
user3010322
You know what, I'm not going to ask because it sounds stupid just from the overview.
 
I don't think that's true.
 
Welcome to the idiocy of Gamergate.
it's just a battleground issue that most of the world doesn't really care about.
because they really shouldn't.
 
9:42 PM
My friend is one those of original GGers and I don't see any "liberals vs conservatives" in anything they try to spam.
 
If you hang out on GG communities, you'll see they call their opponents "SJWs".
 
The opponents they cite are SJWs.
 
Yeah, but they only cite those.
 
which is funny, because GamerGate originally sought to promote social justice themselves through "journalistic integrity".
 
Super Jealous Waterballoon?
 
9:43 PM
Social Justice Warriors.
 
SJW does not mean what you think it means.
It's not a literal word/definition.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh.
 
So no, it isn't funny.
 
I can already kind of guess what that means.
 
But GG and anti-GG have changed ideas and concepts so many times it makes my head spin.
 
user3010322
9:44 PM
In my Java class. Student asks: "how do I access this ArrayList in the a function of another class?" Professor's answer: "Make it a public static variable."
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user3010322
I'm so done with university. ;~;
 
@Nooble Social Justice Warriors. The sort of person who can find a cause they just need to fight for in anything and everything they see (e.g., fire hydrants must be eliminated because they're phallic symbols).
 
@ShotgunNinja That's the issue with leaderless movements. Nobody can go out and say "I don't know these people, they have nothing to do with us."
 
I think both groups are moronic.
 
@Rapptz Good to see you found a way to feel superior to both.
 
9:45 PM
It's a correct answer.
And it's bad when taken as _advice_
 
Yep.
 
If you were a D&D character, your alignment would be True Neutral.
 
it's really hard to run a true neutral.
 
@JerryCoffin I dislike those people, there are tons of them everywhere though.
 
Actual true neutrals don't care at all either way about what is going on.
 
9:47 PM
You can channel your inner teenager and run a Chaotic Neutral.
 
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@sehe Yeah, but.... he's not mentioning that you can just pass the array list in a function!
 
Sometimes, in the first steps, people can derive a lot of "Ahah" from "If it were static, you wouldn't need the instance" and "If it were publicly visible, it could be used from another type/class".
Of course, when that's all, the image becomes gruesome, but in lesson 2 of a java course, I don't know what you'd expect the prof to say. "Oh, just use a DI framework"
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's actually what I'm running right now.
 
@ThePhD Fair point. Raise that. Although the question framing could easily have been such that it didn't apply ("how can I use the chosen delimiter from class X in Y.toString()?")
 
they made me step down from Chaotic Good
 
9:48 PM
I think if I had to choose what I am, I'd be neutral good
 
I had a bad day and might have repeatedly threatened to set on fire hundreds of alignment-unspecified-but-better-odds-on-evil people.
 
user1804599
Absolutely terrific.
 
I like helping people and making them happy, and I'll follow instructions, but I don't much care for confining rules.
 
user3010322
@sehe I'm gonna try to frame "pass it as a function parameter" as a question and get it in there!
 
:)
 
user1804599
9:49 PM
@sehe is scope only interactive?
 
user1804599
I want to search for uses programmatically.
 
@rightfold no. It has e.g. Vim integration
 
user3010322
"I'm not taking anymore questions right now." Shut down :(
 
@rightfold I guess you can use expect. But I'm not sure it has a "script/ex mode"
 
user1804599
9:50 PM
I use Vim with tags files all the time. Is that cscope?
 
user1804599
Like :ta Invoice.
 
user3010322
Maybe I'll try again later.
 
@rightfold nope
@rightfold Just read the docs. :he cscope etc.
 
user1804599
I wonder how hard tags files are to parse.
 
user1804599
9:53 PM
> An ex mode command that will take the editor to the location of the tag.
 
user1804599
oh god
 
user1804599
etags doesn't embed executable code it seems.
 
@rightfold not hard.
@rightfold it's just :/ usually. It's indeed stupid that the description/spec is so liberal
 
I should grill my steaks more often. That was lush
Actually tasted like barbecued steak
 
@rightfold Anyhoops. ctags doesn't cross-references AFAIR
 
user1804599
9:55 PM
However I don't think etags-generated files contain usages.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit you eat around midnight?
@rightfold That's what I just said. exuberant ctags is far too primitive to support references
 
@LightningRacisinObrit grilled steak is the absolute best
 
@rightfold That's a very different thing, just in case you missed my prior 2-3 mentions of that fact
 
@sehe I just don't like the premade menus
custom sandwich or bust
 
9:58 PM
@AlexM. of course not
@AlexM. healthy/not overpriced food or bust
 
did I tell you that I did not eat mcdonalds today
when they gave us pretzels and water at the workshop I was like
"holy shit the UNIVERSE wants me to lose weight"
 
@AlexM. Woot. What did you do instead?
 
(I drank the water instead of coke)
 

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