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4:00 PM
@thecoshman me2
@MooingDuck The protocol is universal. You can have as many different connectors as you like
@ThePhD Because one tool is never right for all jobs
 
is it normal that a seagate barracude HDD comes in just bubble foil - no box?
 
@nightcracker define "comes in"
 
it is in anti-static foil within the bubble foil too, though
 
ah, first was standard, then mini. then mini was replaced with micro, which is much more durable
 
@nightcracker sounds like the people you bought it from are trying to save on wasted cardboard
 
4:02 PM
one end is always supposed to be A, the other B, that way you can't get it backwards.
 
@MooingDuck Yeah and fortunately it sort of stopped there
 
@MooingDuck Backwards?
 
like that
 
like as in cross-over kinda logic?
 
4:03 PM
@nightcracker bubblewrap!
 
@nightcracker Straight in the post like that?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I guess so
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "This kind of design was choosen in order to prevent electrical overloads and damaged equipment.[citation needed]"
 
heh
i'll wait on the porch
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit within a larger box, with all other components
 
user3010322
4:05 PM
Just crashed Visual Studio by pressing Ctrl + Z.
 
user3010322
Guess I'll have to avoid doing that in the future. :B
 
@ThePhD "oh no he pressed CTRL+Z, I must undo....ALL THE THINGS!"
 
"USB 3.1 was announced on July 31, 2013.[21] The new specification introduces a faster transfer mode called "SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps"," O.o
 
@nightcracker So, what, you wanted another box?
If you're asking whether they should have had a Seagate box specifically: no, they don't tend to do that.
 
user3010322
Ultra Super Duper USB 100 Gbps incoming.
 
4:06 PM
Yikes
I can't even get USB 2.0 working properly
 
and 5A at 20V. is that enough for a lightbulb? I think it is...
 
the intel stock cooler came with paste pre-applied
 
@melak47 Undo existence Ctrl+Z
 
user3010322
I'd hate to have to program against the USB spec. <_>
 
user3010322
Just reading opcodes for the HID specification was a nightmare.
 
4:07 PM
@nightcracker how did it avoid going hard?
(cos that's not easy!)
 
Pretty happy with my day of build servering. Let's go home while it lasts :)
 
user3010322
Leaving on a good note is always fun.
 
user3010322
I have a quick question.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no idea
@LightnessRacesinOrbit gonna throw the thing away anyway
and fuck this graphics card is fkin huge
 
@nightcracker what why?
 
user3010322
4:10 PM
I have 2 kinds of structs I've been using lately: one that you pass to a constructor and it has all the information needed to boot up the object, and another kind of struct which is stored on the class and basically contains all the data about that object (things like width, height, stride, etc. (in the case of a Texture))
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit have my own cooler
 
@nightcracker oh the cooler okay
@nightcracker keep it as a spare dude
 
pressing F12 in my project causes a debug break point....
 
@ThePhD T::detail_t
 
DbgUiRemoteBreakin()...someones breaking in remotely? D:
 
Just heard somebody say "power ups". Two words. Like, really slow.
 
where is this going...
 
hm?
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ah. What if they're exposed to the user (to give them that information as well) ?
 
4:13 PM
@ThePhD What about it?
What is your question?
 
user3010322
Oh, er, sorry. I saw "detail" and immediately assumed it was a private struct thingy.
 
user3010322
Nevermind me~
 
Well, it can be
I'm still waiting to hear what the problem is so I can answer your question
 
@ThePhD can do
 
I think you should post it on SO, so that (a) you don't get instabinned by DeadMG, and (b) I get sweet sweet repzzz
My drive for 100k is going quite slowly
 
user3010322
4:15 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's a syntax question, won't that get bombed on SO? ("What's the best names / convention for X?" )
 
Hi, could someone please help me write a function to reverse a linked list after a certain element? So, if you have a list 123456 and you pass in the head and the element that contains 4, after the reversal it would be 123654.

I know how to reverse the whole list.
So here's what I attempted: advance the head Node until it's equal to the "after" Node and perform the reversal after that. but then i lose the pointer to the actual first node
 
@ThePhD )
 
@ThePhD Oh god
 
user3010322
@MooingDuck That looks like an interesting way to do it. Now I just need a good kind of naming scheme for "OpenFile" :D
 
@ThePhD Well, give it a go, but formulate it carefully.
 
user3010322
4:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Will do. I don't have much rep anyway, so if I lose it all, oh well~
 
@ThePhD psychic win
 
@Oleksiy go to www.stackoverflow.com
 
also, no, we can't "help you write" anything. not even on SO
good luck
 
@Oleksiy done
 
4:17 PM
(there is a good question in there; you just need to lead with a different intro)
@ThePhD you wouldn't lose it all!!
 
@Oleksiy Sounds like a very good question to put on SO, especially if you include the code you have now, showing what you've already tried.
 
i can't go to SO :(
 
@Oleksiy got banned for asking bad questions?
oh, 2.5k rep. guess not
 
huh, look at that. was trying to see how long it's taken me to get 2,668 towards 100k
Oct 28 at 16:36, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Right, after a few months of not really writing answers on SO any more, I'm making a push for 100k
18 minutes short of one month
 
@Oleksiy why not?
 
4:19 PM
and before you start on DST, that ended the day before. I checked
 
it's a secret... i will go and ask this question in a few days
 
So why should we care
 
@Oleksiy homework/work project?
 
@MooingDuck Don't link to cplusplus dot com
 
cplusplus dot com is the bane of my existence
 
4:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus because they used to have bad information once?
 
yeah i don't want to get caught. but i dont want an answer
i just want a hint
 
it's like w3schools
 
Yes
Fuck that site
 
the examples on cplusplus dot com are awful
 
cppref is ok tho
 
4:21 PM
cppreference is awesome
 
"This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE." - GNU making software for no particular purpose since 1987 ;0
 
@Oleksiy I already gave you a hint
 
its still far from complete
but at least you can change stuff fast
 
cplusplus.com needs a big banner at the top just saying "C++ doesn't work this way! We are not an official site! We are not 'the' site and this is not necessarily 'the' way to do things!" because showing any example without clarifying that is harmful
 
@MooingDuck ohhhh that "done" was a link! thank you
 
4:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wait... did you really not realise why I might have this username?
 
oh right, I forgot that organge links are uncommon. Sorry about that.
 
Something isn't right here.
 
unpause that shit
 
@thecoshman Can't say I ever thought about it
@thecoshman It's not obvious without foreknowledge
ITT Pauseguy7
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sure it is Mr Race
 
4:23 PM
@thecoshman \o/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
any way, time to trudge home
 
@thecoshman no
 
in the irish snow
 
4:27 PM
Should I fix this?
2
 
duckduckgo lets you search "!cppref std::something", and there you go, no more cplusplus.com in your search results :p
 
@Pawnguy7 Depends. What is it supposed to look like? What is broken?
 
What's "this"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit paused text in the level
Caused by resizing to a small window.
 
@melak47 google lets you change a setting so it never appears again in addition to that
 
4:28 PM
@Pawnguy7 You need to tell us the manner in which it is broken. We are not fucking psychics.
 
I thought the text was obvious.
 
@MooingDuck but then google will know that I don't like cplusplus.com and use that against me! :E
 
@Pawnguy7 You're delusional
Is the text supposed to be smaller? In a different place? What?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm getting good at it though
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not overlapping the level
 
@MooingDuck fuck me is that a level?
 
4:29 PM
Surely it isn't only me that sees it overlapping the level?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit of snake? yes
 
Well how the hell was I supposed to know what all those ugly black rectangles are?!
 
Doesn't matter.
They overlap the text.
 
You're awful at asking programming questions.
Yes, fix it.
 
I cannot think of a time that would ever be good.
 
4:30 PM
Then why are you asking
 
Might have been aesthetically pleasing, depending on what all the other crap was supposed to be
 
You don't have to get our permission to do stuff
 
BTW it doesn't look like Snake to me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he's been posting images of his snake game for many months
 
@MooingDuck Forgive me for not automagically assuming that this picture of random rectangles must be about his Snake game!
 
4:31 PM
I still don't know what the funy Xmas trees had to do with things
 
you're forgiven
 
@MooingDuck thank you
 
It was like this.
 
o.O
think I'll stick to the original game.......
 
@CatPlusPlus It only happens with small windows, and I don't know how to fix that besides having a small size cap.
 
4:32 PM
(and when I say "original", I mean Nokia's over-simplified 1990s knock-off)
 
Make your UI scaleable
 
> The Nokia 6010 is a solid entry-level mobile phone with a Nokia Series 40 96 × 65 color user interface.
Competing against all those liquid-nitrogen phones on the market in 2004
 
@CatPlusPlus How do you propose to do that? I am not good at UIs.
 
no don't, have them set at a fixed resolution so they look crappy and pixelated for everyone running it at a higher resolution! people love that
 
@Pawnguy7 make the images 100% of window size instead a fixed number of pixels
 
4:35 PM
They are positioned by window size.
Though not scaled.
Due to this, however.
Well, it just doesn't work.
Also, I don't know why you would discourage such questions.
It is like telling people to make the website how they like it.
The point is all the other people who will see it.
 
you scale your snake stuff
what's the problem scaling the ui
 
Sounds like a lot of work.
 
"I did it the wrong way, but it just doesn't work" "do it right" "sounds like a lot of work"
 
Unless I don't need to store the window size from before.
I didn't do it the wrong way.
I didn't do it at all. There is a difference.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Are we no longer friends? :(
 
steam can't use .ico files for icons? How strange
 
user3010322
@melak47 Bitches love pixels.
 
user3010322
@MooingDuck .ico is very windows-specific, unfortunately.
 
user3010322
Same with .anim and .cur .
 
@ThePhD so was steam until recently
@ThePhD you know what else is windows specific? exes, which are the only icon files steam accepts by default
 
user3010322
4:58 PM
@MooingDuck o.0
 
user3010322
Wat the bloody hell. xD
 
oh, it also takes tga and png. I overlooked that
 
user3010322
Oh. Well that's more forgiveable.
 
user3010322
Only file format I have no idea how to parse for images is TIFF.
 
user3010322
That mother fucker is dense and complicated as fuck. All the other specs I could read, but TIFF? Nah man, nah.
 
5:04 PM
@MooingDuck hehe
so, did you hear? code is like salt
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it raises the blood pressure?
 
@Jefffrey sure
but, more to the point, like code you can't have "a salt". ... wait. fuck.
 
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Q: Syntax / Readability for Named Parameters in C++

ThePhDIntention: I'm trying to develop best-practices for my classes and the constructors for those classes, when passing a lot of parameters and also storing structs of information to present to the users. Problem: Many classes I have take a huge whopper of parameters, so what I've begun to do is cre...

 
user3010322
Sure hope I didn't screw up the way I asked it. :D
 
5:10 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm waiting
 
user3010322
Admittedly, it is a pretty self-made derp problem when you think about it.
 
Xeo
> Problem: Many classes I have take a huge whopper of parameters
Yea
 
Hmm, std::initializer_list sounds cool
 
user3010322
@Xeo It's not my fault, they needs the information. ;~;
 
user1804599
> Status Code: 404 OK
 
user1804599
5:17 PM
lol
 
user3010322
Guise
 
user3010322
is coliru down?
 
yup /cc @StackedCrooked
 
@ThePhD named parameters was the correct way to go on that
 
user3010322
I feel kind of bad. Everytime something happens with Coliru we just complain to @StackedCrooked and hope he fixes it. I feel like a whiny child. :c
 
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@StackedCrooked Nevermind my whiny self, it's up again. :D
 
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@Xeo Btw I didn't totally fully give up on tuple_cat
 
@ThePhD he should not break production
 
user3010322
This is as far as my understanding has gotten me. I still don't know how else to get more parameter packs going or what other forwarding and std::get'ing I need to do and where...
 
5:23 PM
@MooingDuck "production", we're the QA team :P
 
Xeo
@ThePhD try producing a working tuple_cat first, and then optimize the line count
 
@ThePhD heh std::tuple_cat
 
user3010322
@Xeo As you can see in my currently failing test, linecount is the last thing I'm worried about ._.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD also, ignore forwarding for now
take plain value types
 
user3010322
It seems std::tuple_size can't handle references
 
user3010322
5:25 PM
to tuples
 
user3010322
Which is extremely dumb, IMHO.
 
takes one to know one!
 
hmm... I some how cut my finger rather well :S
 
Dieu et mon droit () is the motto of the British Monarch in England. It appears on a scroll beneath the shield of the English version of the coat of arms of the United Kingdom. The motto refers to the divine right of the Monarch to govern and is said to have first been used by King Richard the Lionheart as a battle cry and official motto of battle, then adopted as the royal motto of England by King Henry V in the 15th century. Language The motto is French for literally "God and my right" (a fuller version of the motto is also quoted as "God and my right shall me defend"). The word droit...
That's very ironic.
 
Ahahah, in my university group someone just posted his solution to a Java error: Window > Preferences > Java > Compiler > Errors/Warnings > set errors to be warnings.
 
user3010322
5:29 PM
+1 University.
 
@Jefffrey wat.
 
@Jefffrey why would such a setting exist? :(
 
My guess is that it turns compile time checks into runtime checks. So you compile your shit but get exceptions later on.
 
I hope the girl is hallucinating
 
5:32 PM
call me American but why is the "British Monarch in England" 's motto in French?
 
@MooingDuck Probably because French was the language of the British monarchy back then, and they never changed the motto.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD no
 
user3010322
:c
 
@EtiennedeMartel I should learn history
 
Xeo
"doesn't work like I want" != "extremely dumb"
 
user1804599
5:34 PM
Gunicorn is nice.
 
user3010322
@Xeo std::tuple_size should be able to take a std::tuple<...>&
 
Xeo
std::tuple_size<Unqualified<T>>, done
 
user3010322
I'd understand if it misbehaved for pointers, but it's a reference. :c
 
user3010322
@Xeo Should be built iiinnn whines.
 
user3010322
Sigh. Well, okay. :c
 
Xeo
5:37 PM
Alright, back to reading Mahouka
 
@ThePhD few type traits take references
 
user3010322
q_q
 
user1804599
Earthsong is a nice colourscheme.
 
user1804599
 
makes me want to shit myself
are you programming in a fucking forest?
 
user1804599
5:45 PM
Do it. And post it on Facebook.
 
user1804599
It’s not too dark and not too light. vOv
 
user1804599
And the contrast is perfect.
 
it's too shit-like
 
^
 
5:49 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would love to.
 
Oh, yeah. That would be magical.
 
@rightfold I like the background greenish.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, Why are you competing with me? Do I really have to pull out a random standard reference? You don't have any idea how much I need rep.
 
Need? :)
WTF?
 
Xeo
5:54 PM
Ohey, new Steam sales in ~8mins
 
@wilx They'll kill my daughter if I don't earn enough rep in the next month
@wilx that's pretty ugly if you ask me
 
:)
 
@Jefffrey haha
@Jefffrey gotta keep you on your toes
 
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Q: C++ putting a value to ostream

user2976089I have this code below which parses a for statement, but I am not sure how to put any value into the ostream when calling the method write(...). What can I do? (e.g write("for (.........")) #include <ostream> #include <iostream> using namespace std; typedef const string type; private: type *i...

Wow, just wow.
 
here, have 10 more repz
 
5:59 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit are we kissing now?
Let me kiss you right back.
 
Wait wait wait
 
waiting...
 
loading...
 
I mean working..
 
@StackedCrooked ewww, working
 
6:11 PM
@ThePhD did you write that awesome feedback? :)
 
user1804599
SQLAlchemy is nice.
 
user1804599
It supports composite keys, unlike Django. :v
 
user1804599
@ScottW I’m going to buy a cat and name him SQLAlchemy.
 
Taylor Townsend tweeted me
life complete
 
6:14 PM
oh baby <3
I'm all yours
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit link or it didn't happen
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit she is the O.C girl
 
@MooingDuck Is that a tear?
 
6:16 PM
that was the cat
 
oh your cat is walking on your keyboard?
 
@Jefffrey yes :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, I just realized you used his O.C character's name.
Sounded so familiar.
 
her
i'm in love
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit me too
 
6:20 PM
now what.
 
Ell
Afternoon all
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah :/
@KonradRudolph, ho ho ho "rightly convicted"
 
Right and wrong, what a beautiful concept.
 
6:26 PM
@ScottW <3
UND KEIN ENGEL STEIGT HERAB
 
Did someone say kebab
 
Oh noez, politics have sex with prostitutes
 
@ScottW Kaltes Grab
<3
You're making me want to listen to Rammstein
but I'm on the phone
ASCHE ZU ASCHE
 
@Jefffrey oh no
sound the alarm
 
Ell
6:31 PM
I understood a tad bit of quaternions!
well I understood the i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1
 
@Jefffrey I meant "politicians".
 
oh you
 
I even got notified.
 
user3010322
@StackedCrooked Maaaybe.
 
user3010322
Hey Sweetiepie McLovelyBuns. <3
 
6:37 PM
<3
 
I'm fairly sure that @ThePhD takes it in the ass like a champ.
 
hahahaha
 
user3010322
@EtiennedeMartel Why not come and find out?~
 
I need to take a shit first. Brb.
 
lol
 
6:43 PM
I feel lighter now.
 
you are
 
user3010322
 
@StackedCrooked, On Coliru, in #include <x>, <x> does not get red if it contains an underscore.
 
Nothing like recursive suicide on Stack Overflow. — Mysticial 41 secs ago
^^ Someone had the idea of doing delete this in the destructor.
 
I know I'm the master in things that doesn't matters, but should the first argument of the main be of std::size_t? (fuck C-compatibility)
 
6:57 PM
C++ is a powerful language. Not only does it let you commit suicide (delete this), but it also lets you do it recursively. (delete this in the destructor.)
 
Is this the right place to ask for GCC/ld help?
 

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