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Q: Impale the [vlad]!

hbadertsI've noticed that the tag vlad is used ambiguously in the following two cases: Vlad the deployer, an application deployment automation for Ruby/Rake? VLAD (vector of locally aggregated descriptors), an encoding/descriptor vector which is used e.g. in image retrieval. The vlad tag currently ha...

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tee hee
 
12:16 AM
@jaggedSpire dawwww
@jaggedSpire :3
 
@Borgleader :D
 
12:41 AM
@Mysticial say, which motherboard or motherboards do you use for your AM4 purposes? I’m using an MSI B350 Tomahawk and let’s say it has its… quirks
 
@LucDanton I'm currently using the GA-AB350M-Gaming 3.
The first one I tried was the PRIME B350M-A.
@LucDanton I have a friend here who has the MSI B350 as well. It's definitely a bit weird. Can't say much beyond that since we neither try overclocking it.
And it took a BIOS update just to get "Ryzen Certified" ram to work on it.
 
dunno if I should send mine back. the thing that really annoys me is that the mobo seemingly fails to detect the M.2 PCIe SSD on some occasions, which is immediately 'fixed' by power cycling. latest update had 'Fixed PCIe Hot-plug function issue.' so I hoped that would be it, but no dice
 
Latest BIOS?
 
ISTR reading that everything’s new enough that there will be quirks no matter what
@Mysticial yes
the other thing is that the time until POST can be stupidly long (which seems to be a common complaint for that mobo), although since the updates that's been downgraded to 'sometimes stupidly long, sometimes decently fast'—one way or the other I think I could put up with that though
@Mysticial supposedly it has a good record with OCers, which tipped my hand in choosing it
 
@LucDanton I recall the POSTs being slightly long when I was testing the build with him. But it wasn't obnoxious.
I haven't had much success overclocking on either of my mobos - include the Gigabyte one that I'm on.
Memory won't post above 2400 MHz. And I can't get the chip stable at 4 GHz regardless of voltages.
And I recently found that even 3.9 GHz wasn't entirely stable.
Waiting for the 1.0.0.6 update.
 
12:58 AM
bummer
 
The current Ryzens aren't very overclockable anyway.
AMD really pushed the limit to stay in business.
 
flu got me
 
@LucDanton If you're still within the return period, just swap it out.
Don't expect to get much in the way of overclocks. Which chip do you have? You'll have more room with the lower-clocked ones. But you're unlikely to reach 4 GHz stable.
I can get 4.1 GHz stable enough for normal tasks. But any sort of real load will blow it up.
 
@Mysticial 1800X
 
Yeah. Not much room with the high-end chip.
I'm running mine at 3.89 (39 * 99.8). It blew up last week on (39.25 * 99.8) after using it for a month.
 
1:05 AM
lol blown up to which extent
 
Crash. All displays off. Need a power cycle to turn it back on.
 
less spectacular than it sounds (fortunately)
I wonder what you will say if/when it’ll actually catch fire :Þ
'it summoned a meteor on my house'
 
Voltage scaling seems to stop at around 3.9 GHz with 1.35v. Even 1.45 didn't let me get 4.0 GHz stable. For both vcore and vsoc. So I gave up and left the voltages at stock.
I'm pretty sure 1.45 vcore will get me "everyday stable" at 4.2 or 4.3 GHz. But my pi program will crash it almost instantly at anything above 4.0 GHz.
 
@Borgleader It looks like a robot boss from video games in the first few frames. An adorable on <3
 
@Mysticial I’ll stick it out for the time being, the bios updates have been coming at a steady pace
@RudiantoPrasetya after testing the libre drivers there’s a slight improvement to the average fps, but as it turns out the real annoyance is that there’s too much variance either way. simply panning the camera in the more demanding areas gives way to stuttering. it's to the point that it makes combat not fun
 
1:16 AM
@Borgleader whoops, sorry about that. flips lever
 
1:28 AM
 
@Borgleader nudges lever up a notch
 
@jaggedSpire perfect
 
@LucDanton your fault for owning nvidia
also zelda botw is great
@LucDanton which kernel are you running, btw?
 
Jan 20 '16 at 2:47, by Angry Lettuce
@LucDanton Well then go for AMD
@RudiantoPrasetya 4.9.25
 
1:43 AM
I'm confused, I thought there's no more closed-source AMD driver on linux?
 
@RudiantoPrasetya iirc this happened for Polaris
 
Ell
@RudiantoPrasetya there is a closed source AMDGPU userland
As well as an open one
 
Ell
There is a single open kernel driver
 
@Ell say, do you have a Linux gaming setup?
 
1:47 AM
@Ell ... what's that "userland" for then?
 
Ell
@LucDanton No - not really. I use the proprietary NVIDIA drivers but I don't do any gaming. I have a GTX645
 
@RudiantoPrasetya the amdgpu part is an open source kernel module, and the -pro part is… something not quite open, I forget the specifics and where it lives
 
I'm not sure I get it, the hardware driver itself is opensource, however the API drivers (OGL, OCL, Vk) are not?
oh my god why is everything so complicated
 
Ell
@RudiantoPrasetya the kernel part does mode setting, the user part does opengl, vulkan
I think
@RudiantoPrasetya the open source one offers opengl but not vk
It's complicated because AMD are in the process of rewriting their stuff to be open source
 
@RudiantoPrasetya if it’s any consolation it looks like mesa has better performance for my particular use cases
 
Ell
1:51 AM
Okay wait I got that wrong, AMDGPU is open source, AMDGPU-Pro is closed
 
@LucDanton Still sad. I wish Anet ported GW2 to ganoo slash leenox
 
Ell
Actually just ignore me I'm getting everything wrong
3
 
decades old directx9 renderer though
 
@LucDanton wow, really?
 
@RudiantoPrasetya yeah, it’s a modified gw1 engine
 
Ell
1:52 AM
AMDGPU and AMDGPUPRO are the kernel drivers, Gallium3D is the userland part
 
the modification being that you can jump in gw2
 
lol
engine-accelerated jumps
> AMD provides a proprietary, binary userland driver called AMDGPU PRO, which works on top of the open-source AMDGPU kernel driver. The driver provides OpenGL, OpenCL, Vulkan and VDPAU support. For some workloads it provides better performance than the open-source driver (example benchmark), while for others it is true the contrary (example benchmark).
From ArchWiki
 
which leads me to all the video driver shopping
 
this seems awfully complex and inefficient and also probably a waste of developer time
 
Ell
@RudiantoPrasetya lol so I was wrong again
@RudiantoPrasetya what is inefficient about it?
Having it in userland?
 
1:58 AM
Having people work on both a closed source & open source thing
 
Ell
They come from the same codebase I think
Like the closed is open + some extra stuff not available in open
But what do I know, I've already demonstrated my incompetence moments ago
 
perhaps in 2020 we'll be able to play games on linux
8
 
Ell
With NVIDIA proprietary drivers many games play well, AMD has catching up to do but it's on its way
 
Recently, AMD messed up really bad, when they attempted to write a kernel side Linux layer for gpus (but really only their GPU), but got their changes rejected.
>>I agree with Dave. If they need an HAL, that is why standards are for.
^ This is why we can't have nice things
 
Ell
@Mikhail yeah they ignored advice given before they started writing it
They were told if they wrote that it wouldn't be merged
But wrote it anyway :V
But, they're in the process of rectifying the situation and supposedly they'll be merging the new DAL stuff once Vega has launched
 
2:10 AM
Probably convinced a non-technical product manager that the "Linux" way was to merge it into the kernel.
 
Ell
Well, they do want it in the kernel
If it's going to be open source then might as well take advantage of having it upstream
I mean err mainlined
 
My understanding is that its impossible for it to be fully open source, and the purpose of the shim was to combine it with their Windows code (where possible).
 
Ell
You can run a mostly open stack using their open AMDGPU kernel driver + open radeonsi Gallium3D driver
The only closed part is the firmware/microcode
NVidia are the ones with a kernel shim - their driver is entirely proprietary, the shim is a little bit of "open" code but the result is a tainted kernel
I think in both cases, the firmware will never be open
 
2:36 AM
@Mikhail that email chain is interesting
@Mikhail by the way since @Garak has abandoned me, you shall suggest me a successful gpu startup idea
 
Does it have to be webscale?
 
fortunately no
 
I think robotic is the new trend
so if you want to be the head wagon
 
Ell
@RudiantoPrasetya just do something machine learning
You know some enterprise analytics for industry strength databases
 
although robotic with machine learning capability has been in and out of the focus for the past 20-30 years
 
3:10 AM
So many of the positions open in my area for junior developers are web development or data analysis. Not much backend stuff unfortunately.
 
I think it's a worldwide phenomenon.
 
Yeah, though I want to be as far from JS and HTML/CSS as humanly possible. I can put up with Python or Ruby though.
 
4:06 AM
Weird, because I know many companies that can't staff C++ positions
 
maybe they have too high of a standard >_<
you can't hire someone with skill set of @jer and pay him $60k a year
also, what if I start making running shoe that recharge battery as you jog?
 
Did you Google it?
 
good point, it's taken
 
$400 dollars please
 
@Mikhail I'd love that, but a lot of the advertised positions in C++ seem to be senior software engineer positions. Frankly I don't trust myself to that level.
 
4:41 AM
Just apply. Out of undergrad I got an offer for a position that was "senior" one at a top tech company and required 4/5 years of experience or an MS. I successfully optimized some rendering code, and was quick with the Google when they started pulling hard questions (that to this day I don't know how to solve)
 
4:58 AM
Google fu is definitely one of my areas of expertise. Still working on my undergrad. I might be an appealing candidate because I can program in a wide variety of languages.
 
no
On the other hand many undergrads can hardly fizzbuzz, but companies want specialization.
 
Right now I do lots of python because I enjoy programming puzzles (generally C++ for demanding projects). Fizzbuzz stuff has always come easy to me.
So I'm at the awkward stage where I'm more than a script kiddie, less than a software engineer.
 
5:17 AM
there is no rule that says software engineers can't be writing scripts day in and day out
if you are a software (testing) engineer, that's probably what you will be doing most of the times
 
@Mikhail Indeed, but if you look out there the vast majority of job offers are webdev.
 
5:40 AM
> [this project is] not dead (last release from 2013-12)
no commit since then
 
5:50 AM
 
6:36 AM
Sup loungers
 
Facebook crashes chrome when starting to autoplay those stupid videos people keep posting. Happened 4 times on my work computer and two times at home yesterday.
waddup
 
RTC is a huge pile of shit
it's a nightmare just to move a file without losing track of its history
 
What is RTC
 
rational team concert
an expensive yet shitty source control
 
alright. i'll take your word on it
 
6:44 AM
I can't friggin move a fucking file
Dammit
Hell
git mv and I'ld be done already
 
git is pretty awesome in my experience. Mercurial isn't too bad, and maven works too. I wasn't a fan of gradle+maven.
 
@Aaron3468 Is it that thingy using a kind of XML?
 
What maven has to to with git?
 
Or maybe I'm mistaking it for Ant
 
maven uses xml
 
6:47 AM
Yeah right, I'm allergic to XML
 
pom.xml all the way
I read a book on maven once
 
Yeah, come to think of it, why tf was that project using maven and gradle at the same time? They're both build systems. I think ANT was the version control.
 
It induces dementia, hemorrhoids and cancer... At the same time
 
Ant is a build system also
 
Ant is a build system too if I'm not mistaken
And Maven is like a repository manager of some sort
 
6:48 AM
gradle is supposed to kill maven
 
IIRC from my old "Android" days
 
throws hands in air I have no idea what they were doing in that project now, considering it used all three. No wonder I had so much trouble figuring out how to get it building.
 
Guise 20 minutes to figure out how to move a fucking file without losing its history using RTC
And its a clickodrom
 
That's the future of programming
 
6:50 AM
does anyone here know how to select right tyres?
 
Is there ice where you live?
 
I'm all for GUI and shit but a decent CLI for source control is so much more efficient
I'ld answer the same way you select left tyres?
 
Oh dear... Probably they use gui because it's 'easier'. As I get used to terminal programs, I'm a lot happier with the flexibility they give. Less work designing them, more work making them expressive and useful.
@Telkitty Pick ones that work in dusty places if you're still in Australia. If you live in Canada, just buy a nice pair of winter tires and keep chains in your vehicle for blizzards.
 
Wait, I spoke too quick
 
Other than that, you want special ones if it rains a lot. (hydroplaning is the hardest condition to drive in)
 
6:57 AM
@Aaron3468 dusty places, you mean - unsealed roads? :p
btw, my car is super dirty at the moment because drove on 80km of unsealed roads last Sunday
waiting for the rain this weekend >_<
 
How to move/rename a friggin file using RTC
 
same as move?
 
Step 1: Import the eclipse project of your repo(yes RTC is integrated with Eclipse and uses eclipse projects to manage a repo)
Step 2: Connect the project to the remote (why it isn't done automatically amazes me)
Note that step 2 requires that you go through like 3 menus and click the right thing each time
And obviously the naming they use is utterly counter intuitive
Step 3: Now you can move your files for that given repo (yay)
 
@Telkitty Yeah, unsealed roads need special tires if you go above the speed limit :p Otherwise normal tires are fine.
@Rerito So RTC is an eclipse plugin basically?
 
hard to go above 70km/h with my current tyres
 
7:06 AM
@Aaron3468 Sortof
 
and fairly dangerous because of incoming cars
 
@Rerito Why is your life a constant struggle? Why do you do this to yourself?
 
@Horttanainen Oh I'm trying hard to migrate to git
Well to make my boss agree to migrate to git is the more appropriate phrasing
 
> Migrating to git: In top directory type git init
 
@Aaron3468 I use git on the side
To manage my side projects (tools for the team, stuff like that)
 
7:08 AM
Your company should publish a book on their decisions: Programming: The Worst Practices
 
I have bare repos on a company nas and I set this as my remote :)
 
So... RTC has an eclipse plugin, an MSVS plugin, and windows explorer plugin. But no commandline interface :( Apparently there's some form of git integration though.
 
Attending a wedding this evening, with a flu, then found out the flat tyre after I started driving ... as the high priestess to the Goddess of singleton, I always run into problems when attending weddings/engagements - been mugged the day before, had a red eye, was in severe pain that I couldn't stand up ...
my life is so weird
 
> Malgré l'élection de macron, les hommes ont tjrs 22 chromosomes, et besoin de briller.
 
@Telkitty High Priest to Goddess of Singleton makes me think you've overdosed on Java
 
7:22 AM
then last time I was dating someone, people kept on getting my orders wrong - like I have been served wrong thing 3 times in a role
I have hardly got served wrong meal when I go out with family/friends
 
nwp
7:55 AM
thanks to stack overflow trends we now know that since 2011 linux is more popular than windows
what a marvelous tool
 
@sehe I haven't sent you music in a while, but this is really worthwile - spotify:album:1Ki56K82avE7nTkZEyVIE7
I wish I was good enough to play this kind of music :S
 
8:11 AM
This one?
 
@Aaron3468 yep
> Gay ass instrumental nerd shit for music dorks 10/10
 
@LucDanton rofl
@BartekBanachewicz Please keep the discussion civil
 
I'm too busy drooling over that album
@nwp we can also learn about Go and Rust significance in the industry (hint: add "javascript" to the chart to see what I mean)
the slow but steady C# decline is interesting as well
makes me wonder if we're reaching the same peak with JS
 
nwp
I cannot read anything from those statistics, the tool already has documentation status for me.
 
Though those are questions asked, not industry use. It'll give an idea of trends, but not actually how well they're doing. So unless the graph has angles >45 degrees, it doesn't mean much
@BartekBanachewicz It's a good album for background noise d(^^)b
I've added it to my playlist for occasions where I need music that is amazing but not distracting
 
nwp
8:32 AM
As members of the Lounge, this has a special meaning to us. Thank you very much. — Mysticial 8 hours ago
 
can someone give some explanations as to what the heck is wrong with this? I genuinely think I posted this in good faith but is getting hammered into smithereens
This is meant as a wiki that I'm not entirely sure that is a good idea
 
nwp
@PasserBy I've been looking at that for a minute or so and I really don't like it.
 
Please tell me why
 
nwp
you are supposed to write one question per question
 
I sincerely think there should be a post about that somewhere
 
nwp
8:39 AM
in the answer the parts Disclaimer, Audience and Introduction contain no information
 
@rightfold > Is it lawful for muslim to prohibit lgbt from getting an education?
 
It is really weird to split them up, how can I spew nouns that needs to be precisely defined?
 
(From our favorite website of course)
> Can I still marry my cousin who may have had premarital intercourse with my other cousin?
 
@PasserBy VTC too broad
 
I can edit them out, but it is meant as a wiki of somesort
 
8:40 AM
> Does my partner transitioning from male to female invalidate our marriage, and what happens if we stay together?
 
nwp
@PasserBy maybe it is a better fit for docs.so
 
I can't split them up, the definitions are really precise
 
@PasserBy wiki-like Q&As typically have to be a bit higher standard
 
How, or where do I put it in docs
 
@RudiantoPrasetya si ti malsi
 
8:41 AM
yes
 
Therefore I'm asking for suggestions, I am unlikely to be able to make a higher standard wiki-like Q&A when the first attempt gets blown up instantly and silently do I?
 
nwp
@PasserBy you click on the big documentation banner everywhere on SO
 
@PasserBy basically wiki-like Q&As are more or less reserved for people who can do them properly
 
> Is there such a thing as halal air
honestly I wish I were making these things up
 
nwp
> Now that we've seen that data races kills kittens are bad, here are some methods for preventing them.
 
8:43 AM
@PasserBy While it's a thorough answer, it's far too long for the question. Documentation is a good place to put that, or on your personal blog.
 
nwp
we haven't seen any ill effect at that point
 
I vote for personal blog
 
> Is a job involving sending spam emails haram?
 
SO self-answering is more like a journal publication
 
I wanted to put it here because I've seen a lot of wrong answers that fails to get shut down concerning exactly data races
 
8:44 AM
Oh, didn't even notice the self-answering. That explains it
 
> Is it permissible in Islam to use foreskin substitutes?
 
I think it is of the benefit of SO that we don't get UB answers that is accepted because people don't realize it has data races
Therefore for the huge post
@nwp the disclaimer is there precisely because of the reasons stated there. The information is important for anyone searching for data races and hit the page, C++ actually has a different definition (as far as I know) to several other languages
 
nwp
Maybe a style hint: "Mutex, aka mutual exclusion, is a mechanism where access is mutually excluded (wow!)." is not good. Either the reader already knows that and you just wasted their time or they didn't and you condescendingly looked down on them and didn't explain anything. It is not funny.
 
@nwp I will fix that
 
@RudiantoPrasetya LMAO
 
nwp
8:48 AM
@PasserBy it is commendable that you want to do that and I can see your reasoning, but it doesn't answer the question and therefore should be removed from it
 
If the intention is to teach people to avoid UB and data races, and make the information publicly accessible, a personal blog or the documentation section of the site is the best place. Answering your own question comes across as repwhoring. Save questions for problems you have, and self-answering if you discover the solution and nobody's given an answer after a day or 2.
 
Then someone please edit the self answering section to make it actually reflect this
Also, as I mentioned, I wanted to make it a wiki but have no idea how it will be edited
If it is edited unrestricted, we are back at the same place where people misunderstands data races
The misconception is so widespread that people don't even notice anymore
 
@PasserBy everyone can edit your answer anyway
 
nwp
The part with "Why are data races undefined behaviour?" is dangerous. None of that applies to x86 computers which is 99.9999% of what people use, so they are inclined to ignore your post because it doesn't apply to them, yet it does anyways.
 
If you make it community-wiki, you have to trust the community's (high) standards. But the central issue is that you don't trust the community. Isn't it better to help people when you can and trust that the people who legitimately need help will receive it or find it at some point? SO is code-wizards living in ivory towers trying to help an endless horde of newbies.
 
8:54 AM
@Aaron3468 That is not what I meant. I saw the prevalence of mistakes made, and am not familiar enough with SO community wiki to know whether that is a concern
And I actually asked whether I should make it a wiki
 
nwp
mtx.unlock(); is terrible practice. You are supposed to use std::lock_guard or similar.
 
And it's frankly not possible to help them all or for them all to receive perfect information. Still, we do our best efforts. Publishing in depth articles on a personal blog looks great on your resume and gives you a quicker way to answer common misconceptions.
 
@nwp I know, about that all, but I don't want to stack details upon details to make it absolutely correct or perfect
 
@PasserBy I think you should make that wiki and hope that the community sees the same permanent value in the answer as you do.
 
Just wiki'ed it because what else can I do now?
 
8:57 AM
Yep. Trust in the future. You'll make mistakes and so will everybody else. Learning is the reward :D
 
@nwp the post is precisely for people who are not familiar with this, I tried at each step to give enough information to point out why things might be the way they are but not overwhelm
If I just stuffed a lockfree queue in there and says "Hey look, that read there should really be seq cst because so and so otherwise is really bad"
 
nwp
you say that, but I see you teaching mtx.unlock() to newbies
 
SO documentations is mostly shit
4
don't waste your time on it
 
do you suggest people not learn about new and only use STL?
that is not how C++ programmers tend to do no\
 
I suggest they use actual books and cppreference.com
 
9:00 AM
problem is this, I didn't find a single resource that makes this as simple as scrolling through a page, I personally went through a hell lot more trouble to learn it
didn't you?
 
nwp
@PasserBy I do
 
lol "scrolling through a page" in the vague hope of learning c++
get a book
 
@nwp Then I think we have different opinions
@RudiantoPrasetya I personally don't believe in learning C++ is inherently hellish
A single definition shouldn't take a book to define
 
See the problem with SO docs (in C++) is that it's mostly written by people (like you) who claim to be aspirant experts but really are far from that
The quality is inconsistent and some advice is really terrible
 
nwp
maybe "not learn" is too strong, but "you must never use new unless you write a container or smart pointer" is a thing I say regularly
 
9:04 AM
@RudiantoPrasetya you are not making any progress towards persuading me the post should be killed. You are simply stating you think the content is not what you would like
 
@PasserBy No, it only takes a google search nowadays to find pages like this. The irony of writing an article (for any platform) is that the people who need it most will never read it. Meanwhile the only audience either knows it already or soon will.
 
@PasserBy I'm not trying to persuade you of anything. I am telling you my opinion. What you do of it is not my problem.
 
@Aaron3468 the page is still highly unapproachable to a newcomer
 
that's the milewski effect
 
If you are writing for newbies, they'll look for it in books and websites called "Learn C++ in 5 days". If you are writing for programmers, they will find it by asking questions on SO, talking to colleagues, or purchasing books with detailed case studies.
@RudiantoPrasetya ^_^ It has a name?
 
9:09 AM
@Aaron3468 I am not convinced. As I've said, there are UB answers on SO with data races, I wrote the whole thing exactly because of that.
 
@PasserBy Oh, I thought doing this was no longer possible.
@Aaron3468 I think he just coined it, after bartoszmilewski.com
 
@nwp I sincerely invite you to improve the post if you really think what I wrote is not what should be, it is now a community wiki
 
I honestly don't get all the downvotes.
I mean, ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice, added
 
Yeah, online communities are prone to bandwagoning. One downvote/negative impression is often enough to convince many others to find the flaw and downvote. Often negative impressions get stronger than positive ones.
 
9:14 AM
Which reminds me, why is this stackoverflow.com/questions/9460260/… c++-faq? WTF
 
I agree the downvotes are a bit heavy, but I can see where they come from. It's not exactly a common format here.
 
@PasserBy Oh, I wouldn't. Let it garner some improvements and feedback first. I think it's better to have "awarded" instead of self-selected.
I just mentioned it because it has a lot of Q&A in similar style.
 
-3
Q: What is a data race in C++ and how can I prevent it?

Passer ByThe term data race is thrown around a lot and has different definitions across different languages. It is natural to ask What exactly is a data race in C++? When do I get a data race? How bad is a data race? How to prevent data races? Are there anything else that I need to know about them?

 
There's a few things I want to edit, but I'm not really in the mood atm.
Maybe people are more inclined to want this stuff in docs.SO these days.
docs.SO is garbage, though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol the tag was close
 
9:22 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, why do I see question marks instead of quotes?
 
@Morwenn That's exactly why I questioned the tagging.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you look at the revisions, someone replaced them manually at some point...
 
Someone got asked a question with mojibake, asked if question marks were a thing, and someone made it a FAQ or something.
My guess is that someone pasted code into a word processor, the quotes became smart quotes, and then this was fed through an ASCII-only channel and the smart quotes became question marks.
@Morwenn It was in the original post.
Dumbfounded user wonders if there's a C++ feature they don't know with question marks for strings, asks a question, dumb user makes it FAQ.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Random guess, perhaps french « guillemets », those often end up as ?guillemets?.
 
@RudiantoPrasetya Yeah, or “these”.
 
9:30 AM
you mean ?these?
 
9:42 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes We need moar fire.
@RudiantoPrasetya Maybe, but nobody uses them anyway. Except folks on French.SE that is.
 
> No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /root/Dropbox/Coliru/Archive/c434e5e08308d3b8execution/cmd.sh
No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /root/Dropbox/Coliru/Archive/c434e5e08308d3b8execution/output
@StackedCrooked lolwut - using Dropbox on a public internet server now :)
 
political correctness: trying so hard to prove that race makes no difference, that you make race the biggest difference
 
«» „“ these quote marks are being used in typography a lot, somebody messed up with the keyboard layouts :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes & accepted answer is plagiarised copy/paste from sock of the question author
whole thing is suspect
and he got 74 score and a +50 bounty? wtf?
 
@CoffeeandCode The only thing absurd is your attitude. Grow up. IntegralConstant is a concept in the Hana universe that means something very specific. — Barry 17 hours ago
That was a well-measured storm.
 
9:51 AM
lol
those two should really Barry The Hatchet
 
> What are the benefits of using olive oil in Islam?
You can use it with your Salat, OH OH OH
(salat: the ritual prayer of Muslims, performed five times daily in a set form.)
I thought that was funny.
 

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