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Would not have happened with lower_bound >.>
 
I'm fucking depressed.
People in my street want to get rid of a tiny square and a few trees to have more parking spots.
Even though there's a unused parking at the end of the street, like 50m farther.
 
6:22 PM
@Borgleader wtf?
 
exactly my reaction
 
@Borgleader wat
 
6:40 PM
@Borgleader Makes perfect sense (as long as you start out realizing that the poster has been testing a combination of heroin and crack for the last week or so).
 
What should I use for building a rest api the easy way?
/cc @rightfold
Like the equivalent of Unity for REST apis?
I just want to say: this is how you get resources, this is how you remove them, this is how you edit them, etc...
Like specify the least amount of things.
And have JWT token based auth or something equivalent already built in
 
user1804599
@Shoe Servant
 
user1804599
@Shoe PostgREST
 
@Shoe Spring?
 
@rightfold The documentation is moot.
 
user1804599
6:53 PM
@Shoe PostGraphQL
 
I've just spent 2 hours trying to get it to work on the latest release
 
user1804599
@Shoe Ruby on Rails
 
user1804599
@Shoe Django
 
@Shoe It what?
 
Let's read about this graphql
 
user1804599
6:55 PM
GraphQL is typed. It's great.
 
@wilx PostgREST
 
7:06 PM
@SpongyFruitcake I forgot I already farmed trib mode to death for all of the rewards, I feel empty inside now
 
8:01 PM
@AlexCerry so I hear you've been pinging people again

Don't randomly ping people

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Q: What is the difference in the following vector creations?

Rohan Akutvector<int>myvec; and vector<int>myvec[20]; When i tried to do a standard push_back operation in second case(myvec.push_back(41))i got a compile error. I think i need to mention the position where 41 needs to be inserted i this case.Am I right?

oh boy...
 
the difference is that OP needs to learn C++
 
8:24 PM
@Shoe REST is pretty dumb.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ...
 
It's a super fascinating read.
 
I read some of it
gotta say the whole thing can be more effectively summarised as "By the way guys, it's really fuckin' stupid to categorise people based on what they like to do with their genitals"
 
> heterosexuals and homosexuals are considered different because they can be divided into two groups on the basis of the belief that they can be divided into two groups
I love that part
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's pretty stupid. Homosexual and heterosexual can distinctly be divided into two groups by some specific criteria and not just by belief.
 
8:53 PM
@wilx The point of the article is the criteria itself is recent, arbitrary, and therefore can be changed.
 
@EtiennedeMartel How are they arbitrary? They only as arbitrary as is arbitrary a definition of any word you can think of.
 
I feel like you didn't read the article.
So I'm gonna wait until you do.
 
This is typical postmodernist gobbledygook.
I skimmed through.
 
That's not reading.
 
@wilx There are no useful criteria that distinguish them
 
8:55 PM
@Puppy Eh, what?
 
there are no useful criteria that distinguish them
 
@Puppy How is the difference in your partner's sex and lack there of not a distinct criteria that distinguishes them?
 
well, your current partner
also that's really not a remotely useful criteria
 
@Puppy Sure. And distinct colours are not really distinct either.
Geebus.
 
erm
well you do realize that colours are a continuous spectrum, right?
 
8:58 PM
@wilx That's a good analogy, since how colours are distinct is purely cultural.
Russians have two words for blue. There are two words for red in English: red and pink.
Where you draw the lines on the colour wheel is arbitrary.
 
there are many for blue in English as well
such as teal
aquamarine
 
Yes, but they're usually understood as shades of blue.
In Russian there are two distinct colours that in English would be seen as two different shades of the same colour.
 
especially fun is how language affects your ability to discern colors as different from one another.
 
The most fascinating bit is green and blue. How distinct they are varies greatly from culture to culture.
Many languages do not distinguish between what in English are described as "blue" and "green". They instead use a cover term spanning both. When the issue is discussed in linguistics, this cover term is sometimes called grue in English. The exact definition of "blue" and "green" may be complicated by the speakers not primarily distinguishing the hue, but using terms that describe other color components such as saturation and luminosity, or other properties of the object being described. For example, "blue" and "green" might be distinguished, but a single term might be used for both if the color...
 
@EtiennedeMartel For example, "blue" and "green" might be distinguished, but a single term might be used for both if the color...
So the colours are distinct but some language lacks different names for them.
But the phenomena are distinct.
 
9:04 PM
 
So, the heterosexuality and homosexuality are distinct.
It is clear as day.
 
@wilx In Western culture, they have been distinct for about 200 years.
 
The Himba have difficulty telling that some blues are different at all from some greens, when westerners can tell them apart, easily.
 
Which means they might not be considered distinct in 200 years.
 
9:05 PM
@EtiennedeMartel No. They have always been distinct. FFS, even the Bible recognizes that. The fact that the phenomena were not named homosexuality and heterosexuality does not matter.
 
Similarly, it's very easy for them to discern between some shades of green that most westerners find identical.
 
@wilx Depends on how you view sexuality, really.
 
@EtiennedeMartel No.
 
See, that's where I disagree. I think that trying to retroactively apply modern concepts to old contexts by attempting to vaguely match patterns is wrong.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There is nothing vague about it.
 
9:10 PM
@wilx No, they're really not
@wilx They're absolutely not.
 
@Puppy lol
 
colours are just diffferent wavelengths of light, you can partition them as arbitrarily as you want
 
@wilx On a scale from -1 to 1, how heterosexual are you?
 
@EtiennedeMartel What's the scale?
But I can tell you I am heterosexual.
 
I don't know, you decide.
 
9:12 PM
and as for sexuality
would you classify having sex with somebody with XXY to be homosexual or heterosexual?
 
Yes, but how heterosexual? If it's distinct from homosexuality, there should never be any overlap or confusion, right?
You're either straight or gay.
 
well it seems clear to me that even if you could take a trait and distinguish it in a completely binary way, almost nobody would have every single trait being one way
e.g. women with facial hair, men who can lactate
 
@EtiennedeMartel I have not denied a 3rd possibility of bisexuality. I am only arguing that heterosexuality and homosexuality are very distinct with fairly clear cut criteria.
 
@wilx So what about the XXY?
 
@Puppy XXY is male hence it depends on the partner.
 
9:19 PM
is it?
what exactly about people with XXY makes them male?
 
The fact that there are phenomena outside of the domains of heterosexual and homosexual does not make the heterosexuality and homosexuality as categories any less useful or less distinct.
@Puppy XY pair.
 
uh huh
so you wouldn't define females as having an XX pair?
 
@Puppy As far as I know any entity with at least one XY pair is male.
 
as far as you know?
 
Dunno if there are any 0Y entities possible and I do not know how I would classify them.
 
9:22 PM
you're supposed to be defining this stuff, you know
 
@Puppy OK, whatever, I just did.
 
so I guess that you would say that if you are XXY or XY but are born with deformed genitals that are corrected into female ones, then anybody who has sex with you is by definition homosexual
 
@Puppy No. There is obviously the aspect of you knowing or thinking that the partner's sex is same/different from yours.
 
I see
 
nwp
9:26 PM
@wilx did you just commit argumentative suicide?
 
of course he did
 
@nwp Did I?
 
you're taking a mental state and then arguing that it is always binary for everybody, ever.
all you need to do to defeat that is introduce some drugs
 
nwp
@wilx you essentially said sexuality depends on the thinking of the person, meaning there is no objective way to define sexuality
 
@Puppy I have stated previously that I did not exclude bisexuality.
@nwp How is that even true?
 
9:29 PM
there's a difference between not caring about the distinction and the distinction not being meaningful
 
nwp
@wilx that you said it or that it is so or the conclusion?
 
Did I miss something?
 
@nwp What you said.
You can look at the categories from outside and from inside yourself.
But either way, the categories are there.
 
nah
 
nwp
Imagine one dude banging another dude. You might say that dude is gay. But then he says "well my bf is such a sissy, he is essentially a girl, so it is not gay".
 
9:33 PM
there's only two categories that matter- "People I like to stick my dick in" and "People I don't like to stick my dick in"
 
nwp
that would be allowed under your "knowing/thinking" definition of gayness
and there is no clear line when a guy is girly enough for it not to be gay
 
Just got out of Herb Sutter's talk on lockless programming at our company. To summarize: It's much easier to just jump off a bridge to avoid that misery.
 
lol
definitely leave it to the pros
 
@nwp Unless he is delusional, he has to know he is homosexual and that his partner is male.
 
@Puppy Even the "pros", don't have good solutions to it.
 
9:37 PM
@Puppy That's discriminatory against people without dicks
 
meh
obviously other people have their own categories for whatever they like to do that gets them off
 
@nwp: You can bring any number of edge cases but I maintain that the cores of the concepts of heterosexuality and homosexuality do exist and they are district. I did admit another possibility or possibilities of phenomena outside the domain of heterosexuality and homosexuality, like bisexuality.
 
@wilx The edge cases matter too and must fit in to whatever system you want
 
nwp
@Puppy they kinda don't actually
 
"There is also variety in sexual orientation, which is the direction of our sexual desire toward people of the opposite sex, people of the same sex, or people of both sexes." - Introduction to Psychology
 
9:39 PM
also
kinda seems to me like you must include paedophiles
 
@Puppy That's orthogonal.
 
I also figure that you need to include asexuals, and you might also want to differentiate between "Heterosexual people" and "People who are so heterosexual they force themselves on others", for instance
@wilx No, it's exactly the same. If you want a system for classifying who people want to fuck, then you need to classify who people want to fuck. You don't get to just exclude some situations.
 
@Puppy "pedophile" is not a sexual orientation.
 
what is a sexual orientation
 
user1804599
Oh hey I got 20k rep again.
 
user1804599
9:43 PM
Neat.
 
I don't really agree with you on that
it's some folks who have a criteria which you must meet to be considered a sexual prospect
 
if it's "the set of people I consider attractive", then it probably is
 
there's no difference between "Must be <18" and "Must have a penis"
 
@Puppy this is sooooo starrable
 
user1804599
Pedophile is a sexual orientation.
 
user1804599
9:45 PM
It means you are sexually attracted to children.
 
thanks rightfold
 
Sexual orientation is not related to age
 
why not?
 
user1804599
If you're a pedophile you're really screwed.
 
2 mins ago, by milleniumbug
what is a sexual orientation
 
9:46 PM
@rightfold I agree.
 
7 mins ago, by Jenna Sloan
"There is also variety in sexual orientation, which is the direction of our sexual desire toward people of the opposite sex, people of the same sex, or people of both sexes." - Introduction to Psychology
 
I think the "Introduction" is the relevant part
gotta say that although I'm firmly against having sex with those who can't consent, I also feel kinda sympathetic to them since practically by definition, they have no viable partners
 
user1804599
All people are of the opposite sex or of the same sex or of both sexes.
 
nwp
@rightfold you forgot "neither"
 
"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder"
 
9:47 PM
also
 
user1804599
So if you have a sexual desire toward people, you have one to opposite sex, the same sex or both sexes.
 
quoting some random textbook does not qualify as an argument.
you need to actually have some kind of logic or something backing it up
if we accepted "Random book quote" as an argument, we'd still be believing in God.
 
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia. Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical...
 
random wikipedia quote not really any more acceptable
 
user1804599
Noun: pedophilia (countable and uncountable, plural pedophilias)
  1. Sexual attraction to children by adults.
  2. 2007, Margaret Mary Wright, Judicial decision making in child sexual abuse cases, page 122:
  3. As noted earlier, pedophilia was cited as both an aggravating and a mitigating circumstance by trial judges, as was the absence of pedophilia.
  4. 2009, Ann Kring, Sheri Johnson, Gerald C. Davison, Abnormal Psychology:
  5. Sometimes a man with pedophilia is content to stroke the child's hair, but he may also manipulate the child's genitalia, [...]
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9:50 PM
besides, I'm uncertain why psychiatric disorders cannot qualify as sexual orientations
I don't really see the two as mutually exclusive
 
@Puppy In that reasoning, heterosexuality is a psychiatric disorder.
 
no, that logic does not hold at all.
 
That's what you said
 
no, it really isn't.
I said that psychiatric disorders are not disqualified from being sexual orientations
i.e., it is possible for at least one thing to exist that may be both of those things.
it certainly does not imply that all things that are one are the other
 
That's not how sexual orientation works
 
user1804599
9:53 PM
Hetrosexuality is definitely a disorder.
 
@JennaSloan But why not?
 
@Puppy Don't you know anything about psychology and sexual orientation?
 
and try to offer some actual logic or argument this time
@JennaSloan Don't you know anything about basic logic? Pro tip: quoting random unknown authorities does not constitute an argument.
if you can demonstrate something I don't know about psychology and sexual orientation, go for it
but try to actually make some kind of argument for it this time
 
"Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience." (APA)
 
ah, so more random authority quotes
also that doesn't even refute my position in the slightest
 
10:00 PM
@Puppy Because the American Psychological Association is totally random.
 
lol
 
it absolutely is.
if those guys are authorities worth shit, they'll have justifications for their positions, which I'm sure you could reference.
 
But one Brandon Ambrosino is not? lol
 
who's Brandom Ambrosino?
also, there's the slight matter that that quote does not in the slightest refute my position that psychiatric disorders and sexual orientations may be the same thing in some cases
 
what is a psychiatric disorder if not a difference in behaviour outside of the "norm"
define "norm" then
 
10:03 PM
well, apart from anything else, that definition would still include psychiatric disorders that can be sexual orientations if the behaviour difference is sexual in nature
 
No, lesbian, gay and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology.
 
I never said that any of those things were disorders.
 
13 mins ago, by Puppy
I said that psychiatric disorders are not disqualified from being sexual orientations
 
yes, that's a thing that I said that is not even close to the thing that I said I did not say
 
implication is not bidirectional
 
10:05 PM
@Puppy Your argument is invalid.
 
ok, I think I am done here
seems to me like you don't even remotely know how to logic
 
@milleniumbug not really. It's not about being outside the norm, it's about causing you or others harm.
 
- Person A declares X, Y and Z to be M
- Person B declares that N are not disqualified to be M
- Person A says that that X, Y, Z are not N
 
I do not see anything on that page that states that psychiatric disorders cannot be sexual orientations.
 
10:08 PM
No, it says a sexual orientation can not be a psychiatric disorder.
 
3 mins ago, by milleniumbug
implication is not bidirectional
 
no, it does not say that at all.
the only thing it says is that some specific named orientations are not psychiatric disorders.
it does not say that no orientations exist that are psychiatric disorders.
 
My preferred SO attitude, mostly
 
@Puppy You say a psychological disorder can be a sexual orientation, but facts say sexual orientation cannot be a psychological disorder, therefore psychological disorders and sexual orientations are mutually exclusive.
 
what facts?
 
10:16 PM
@Puppy the APA
 
the APA is not a fact
 
@JennaSloan Also, that conclusion doesn't follow. You can have disorder AND a sexual orientation. In fact, I do.
 
The results from research is a fact
 
@sehe Is that why you spend hours on super-elaborate answers? :)
 
@wilx See the edit
 
10:18 PM
h m
so you are claiming that the APA has examined in detail every sexual orientation that could possibly exist, ever?
 
@JennaSloan Unless many scientists disagree. What are you arguing for, anyways
 
@sehe I, on the other hand, am sexually disoriented (and no, I don't have a clue what that means, but it seemed kind of funny).
 
and that the results from their studies has never been disputed by anybody?
 
@JennaSloan Sexual orientations can correlate with them. Clear as day. All you want to say is that having a sexual orientation is not - per se - a disorder, and treating a disorder doesn't necessarily have any consequence on sexual orientation.
Yawn.
@JerryCoffin Much appreciated. Just what the doctor disordered.
 
Sexual orientation is not a psychological order
 
10:20 PM
@Puppy Yes, but disputing my results means they have psychiatric disorders, so their disputes can be ignored.
 
fair enough
 
@rightfold Agreed. Every single person with that disorder has been obnoxious to the point of nausea to me
 
Puppy and JennaSloan seem to be arguing about the definition of "sexual orientation". Puppy's seems to argue it's "the set of people who are attractive to a given person", and JennaSloan seems to say it's one of "homosexual", "heterosexual", and "bisexual"
 
if sexual orientation implies it is not a psychological order, then a psychological order cannot be a sexual orientation.
 
disorder*
Remember, most people here are programmers. Not only do they like to use their brains, but they're also used to communicating in rather precise ways.
 
10:21 PM
JennaSloan doesn't seem to know how to logic at all
 
@sehe One of those times I guess I'm glad I'm married. At least I might not have been quite so obnoxious.
 
did you get divorced?
 
@JerryCoffin (I was riffing at "Hetro" though)
@Puppy Not so hopeful, MG
@milleniumbug Yup. Making it about labels is the sick part :)
 
I must be the only one that know the rules of inference.
 
you don't seem to know shit
 
10:24 PM
@JennaSloan How did you infer that.
 
and with that, I am off to bed
 
Sleep well, pups
 
unless anybody wants to see "Basket of Puppy"
it's super cute
 
Nah. We know what she looks like :)
 
@JennaSloan You do seem to be following a set of rules that's slightly different from those of which the rest of the world is aware. Kind of reminds me of the proud mother watching the band in the parade: "Oh look--the whole band is out of step except my son."
 
10:25 PM
oh shiet
actually I am off to bed in about 20 minutes
 
@Puppy G'night.
 
the SpaceX reused Falcon 9 launch is in two minutes
 
night
 
@Puppy Huh. Medication? Waiting for the shower to be free?
 
10:25 PM
Ah. Great
 
I gotta admit that these things always get me
you either get to see giant explosions or humanity finally starting to realize some potential
 
Falcon 9ʹ
Dat rumble
 
Hello, Cruel World!
 
is it really that cruel though
 
Blue Origin flew a rocket five times, but their rocket was a suborbital (basically a small test rocket) whereas the Falcon 9 is a fully-fledged commercial orbital insertion rocket
 
10:28 PM
falcon launch is right now?
 
it was two minutes ago
 
@Code-Apprentice still live
 
I see it!
 
I will probably watch until the landing
after that the Falcon 9 has done its job
the second stage doesn't really interest me so much
 
No explosions :)
 
10:30 PM
none yet
 
what is the mission? Or is it just a test flight?
 
commercial satellite insertion
that's what differentiates SpaceX from Blue Origin- they are re-using commercial rockets on commercial missions instead of smaller test rockets
they have landed many Falcon 9 boosters but this is the first time they have re-launched one
 
I've read about the successful landings. Very exciting even though it is getting to be business as usual for the most part
how long from landing to relaunch?
how long did it take, I mean
 
don't know how long it took or how much it cost
 
so the rocket is coming back and stage 2 is delivering a sattelite?
 
10:34 PM
it's been quite a few months since they landed the first booster but we don't know which booster this is or how many resources they put on it instead of building the next six boosters
yep
 
Note: psychological disorders and sexual orientations are mutually exclusive.
5
 
how many boosters does SpaceX have?
 
they landed five or six so far
had to dispose of one or two as they were launching too high
 
are they 5 different rockets? or did they reuse any?
 
they had to get an extra hangar because they landed so many boosters
@Code-Apprentice This is the first one to be reflown; don't know what happened to the others but common belief is that they were disassembled to get maximum information on their condition
 
10:36 PM
did nasa recover rockets after apollo or shuttle missions?
 
awwww yeah they landed it too
 
Wow. It's landed.
 
I missed the landing ;-(
 
Sadly off feed. But still. Impressive as hell.
 
I see it on the pad, though
 
10:36 PM
SpaceX- serious mother fuckers
@Code-Apprentice I think that they parachuted down some of the shuttle boosters, not sure.
but it was typically considered a failure because their refurbishment costs for the re-usable parts were exceedingly high, so they got little benefit from re-use
 
so this spacex booster is the first reused one...did it launch earlier today or did they reuse one from a previous launch?
 
previous launch months ago
 
Some people are watching this closely
That's. >1k retweets per minute
Ok, sleep well puppy
 
yeah
good night everybody
 
nwp
hope for humanity it is
 
10:41 PM
in JavaScript: The Movie, 5 hours ago, by Kendall Frey
you guys are insane
 
10:52 PM
@Code-Apprentice At least some parachuted down and landed in the ocean. None of them even attempted the kind of precise landing that SpaceX is doing.
 
that last part I am aware of. I didn't realize that no rockets have ever been reused, though.
 
what's up fellas
 
watching spacex on youtube
 
ahh nice, i haven't kept up with spacex much lately.
what are they doing this time?
 
11:07 PM
they just launched a used rocket about 30 mins ago
successfully landed it and delivered a satellite while they were at it
 
damn that's crazy
 
11:19 PM
very exciting. Reusing rockets will seriously reduce the cost of launches.
 
@JerryCoffin every once in a few moons, a real good collection passes by. Somehow always think of you.
 
Ell
@sehe I love the elephant one
so much
and the eyebrow one
 
I'm not surprised :)
@Ell Derpy comments are funny too i.imgur.com/uqk7fDV.png
 
Ell
11:35 PM
TIL what a malaphor is
 
Noun: malaphor (plural malaphors)
  1. (rare neologism) An idiom blend: an error in which two similar figures of speech are merged, producing a nonsensical result.
So. Apparently it has actually begun to be a thing. I'd be surprised if Webster's has it
Indeed it does not.
@Ell I assumed that was witty
 
@Puppy thanks
 
@Puppy D'awwww <3
 
Does anyone get the joke/point here? twitter.com/CloveHitched/status/847439414825373697
I feel silly
Guessing it might be about the many signs. But how exactly that constitutes "Grade A dipshittery" is unclear to me
 
Ell
11:53 PM
@sehe the bin has a solar panel, but it's placed under a bridge
or under something obscuring the sun
 
@sehe Solar powered, but sitting in the shade most of the day.
 
@Ell Ah. Solar panels work with ambient light, but I'm sure that's the thing indeed.
 
Ell
Yeah
they work much better in direct sunlight
it's not as bad as solar roadways at least :V
 
Still can't actually /see/ solar panels, but I noticed the "Solar" caption on the side, now
 
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