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12:25 AM
I don't get what the difference is between the way Paul, the original poster (OP), assigned his member variable and the way the answerer here http://stackoverflow.com/a/11594963/2124148 , who says never assign the way the OP did, assigns.

What is the difference?
 
@JossieCalderon he says it in the comments: in OP's case he's constructing from a string and then reassigning from a string. You should default construct and assign, or (preferably) simply construct from the string.
 
Thanks!
 
@JossieCalderon The basic difference is that one is initialization and the other is assignment. If (for example) you have a member that's const or a reference, you have no choice: you must initialize, not assign (though note that neither of these is usually advisable).
 
12:50 AM
In almost every case where you can choose between the two, initialization is preferable.
 
@ThePhD thanks for the help it works now
 
1:10 AM
@Borgleader Why not make function_arg_at<int idx> ?
Saves you a little bit of copypasta.
@Borgleader There you go.
Good on you for using boost and the mpl and stuff: saves you a lot of boilerplate.
 
@ThePhD because boost function traits are like that so i did the same thing
 
@Borgleader Oh. Well, sure then!
 
but sure i like not copy pasting :) thx!
 
1:35 AM
@Shoe Yes.
The halting problem is often misunderstood.
It says there is no general algorithm that can determine whether an arbitrary program halts or not.
 
2:21 AM
So then you can solve subsets of the halting problem (specific cases), but you can't apply that solution to other, unrelated cases?
 
Isn't foo(string x){} and foo(int x) polymorphism (specifically, ad hoc polymorphism)?
 
nvm, I just read the question and that's exactly what you answered
Quick question, as I haven't touched C in a while (for good reason). If I declare a struct named Foo with three fields, is there a compact way to do something like doSomething(Foo(a, b, c))? From what I can find, I'll probably need an initializer function
 
I think you can initialize POD types with a list + gcc C extensions?
struct point p = { xvalue, yvalue };
 
@Borgleader +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
dang, okay. Looks like it's time to bust out a simple class with a constructor. readable syntax is better than squeezing out a few bytes of memory space
 
2:31 AM
why isn't typedef char* string working??
grrrr
 
` typedef char *String;`
Party like its 1993
 
For real? You failed at writing FizzBuzz but threw in a license?
 
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Q: I want to make online video chat application in java..could anyone help in making this ..I dont even know how to proceed/start

Amit kumarI want to make a java application which works as video conferencing or video chat. I want your help in how to start and what are the technologies must should i learn. Thanks in advance

 
2:33 AM
@Mikhail I will eventually get it working...
 
^ /cc @Borgleader
 
writes too much Python lately
typed self instead of this in a C++ program
 
@Aaron3468 Pass by fuck-it convention
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@Mikhail i think i fixed it, thanks anyway!
 
2:34 AM
Haha
 
3:30 AM
@Mysticial If someone doesn't know where to begin for <complex project>, it probably means they don't want to spend time learning the hard way.
In other words, throw money at the problem, or use a premade solution
 
what if I want to use Oracle
 
3:56 AM
?
 
4:24 AM
nvm
 
This returns a lot of compiler errors, how is it a reproducible example? stackoverflow.com/q/397404/2124148
 
5:04 AM
@sehe wowza that’s tricky
 
5:22 AM
This function I just wrote reminds me a lot of a promoted loop:
void animate_colour(RGB colour_i, RGB condition, RGB delta)
 
5:52 AM
So EWG is not doing anything yet today, and I walked into the very end of the discussion, but Ville just said something that ended with "as long as you people stop hallucinating about a language-level tuple" -.-
 
Ben
hello @telkitty
 
Hello :)
 
6:10 AM
@LucDanton yup. I don't get that Tim Pope is being reluctant to change anything despite many reports
The reports are bound to be the tip of the iceberg
 
changing anything would ruin someone else’s day, presumably
 
> Ville: Bjarne told me that he thinks this paper is an abomination.
> Somebody: So he's weakly against?
 
6:25 AM
morning#
 
Ven
Hi
@thepiercingarrow from the incidental complexity of the snippet I can tell you'd be a great Java eng... Developer.
 
user1804599
Hi
 
@thepiercingarrow because typedef is C++ and you are using C?
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Ven
Holy drugs batman. What?
 
@Ven Definitely! He's got a whole looping and output framework when all you need is a for loop with 2 if-statements :chuckle:
 
Ven
6:37 AM
@Aaron3468 soon he'll call 'em "My Little Factories: Singletons are Magic"
 
lol. As for me, I'm playing LEDJ right now; with basic circuit analysis skills, an arduino, and an RGB LED, I accidentally made an LED animation library
 
nwp
@thepiercingarrow you may look at the Java version of what you are writing for inspiration
make sure to check the issues to not have the same problems
 
@nwp Wow. This is a pretty major flaw github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition/… - this will just generate wrong results depening on the platform!
 
Ven
Lol reading articles on medium.com. Should be mediocre.com tbh
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6:48 AM
@fredoverflow Anything past basic data structures and I/O libraries is the wild west
 
Ven
there are a few good ones for sure. But the vast majority... Whoops.
 
Practically no guarantees a good library will exist after that point
 
@Ven well done
 
@Ven So - it's targeted at a mass audience
 
> "We need to make a standard everybody will use" - A Brand New Concept(TM)
 
6:53 AM
Operative keyword: "Brand"
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Ven
@sehe whichever meaning of "mediocre" you want there :-)
 
This. #brexit
 
Ven
ITT sehe browses /r/im14andthisisdeep
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@Aaron3468 yeah, you could answer that whole article with the xkcd about standards...
 
@Ven I think the biggest fault is that he isn't approaching it from an engineering perspective; it isn't about 'which is better'. It's about learning to analyze tradeoffs (between simplicity and control).
 
@Ven lmao
 
7:03 AM
@JerryCoffin I never heard of the « branch and bound » algorithm. I couldn't get the joke ^^'
 
@Ven If that print is the result, I'm proud to report for duty
 
Ven
I wouldn't expect it any other way!
 
In fairness the picture underrepresents the sane people. And it's easy for people to misinterpret and think that the two counters represent #brexit and #noleave. I don't think it's intended like that.
 
It's disturbing that the joker was depicted as ultra sane in that dark knight movie
 
You know what else is disturbing
 
nwp
7:15 AM
inb4 your face
 
white paint, red lipstick - that's geisha makeup ... kinda
also, you can't help people who would rather believing comforting lies
 
@Telkitty I think he was one of the most fleshed out chaotic villains I've seen. They're usually strawmen and only really exist because the writer wants the hero to fight. The Dark Knight series wasn't perfect, but it had great writing for the characters.
lawful villains take less skill to portray believably, so amateur writers can often do a good job on them.
 
nwp
@sehe no, tell me sehe, what is?
 
user1804599
7:38 AM
Find It shocking and discrimating that young people aged 16 aren't allowed to vote. We are probably more educated than the adults #iVoted
 
user1804599
lol more educated
 
+
 
user1804599
Raise the voting age to 65.
 
user1804599
@nwp fancy type systems, think Coq, Agda etc
 
While the lowest quartile of education has risen, adults are on average more educated anyways.
 
nwp
7:48 AM
also the problem solves itself after 2 years unless there is an exponential increase in education
I need to make a standard answer for "I put different types of objects into my container. Now my design is shit."-type of problems.
 
@nwp Unit testing and don't double dip. One way or another newbies need to have strong typing to have good design. Even in Python (and I really enjoy the freedom to not declare type)
I also hate that freedom when I accidentally iterate over a line, instead of the whole file ^_^
 
nwp
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Q: Correct use of polymorphism in containers?

PsirusIn this code I've started working on, I came across a common pattern that somehow doesn't sit right with me. Usually, it involves an enum, a map, a switch and some sort of class hierarchy. I've tried to abstract a MWE: #include <iostream> #include <map> class Shape { public: virtual double ...

doesn't seem to apply here
I want to say "don't put different types into 1 container, use templates instead"
but my wordsmithing is bad and people say "but then I have to repeat code", which is a valid point, just that dynamic_casts and type switches are worse
also that you can't iterate over everything anymore
which arguably is a feature
 
user1804599
use boost::variant
 
"Don't put related types in the same container, but treat them differently (by trying to access derived class methods)"
 
user1804599
@sehe similar:
 
user1804599
7:59 AM
 
I'm tempted to say that a container with the ability to return a container of objects with a particular derived class is better. Like shapeContainer.getRectanglesContainer().
It compromises encapsulation a little bit, but it keeps the distinction between types strong so that polymorphism doesn't fail.
 
That would be a great base container! :bookmarked: The asker wants to have a shape collection, but iterate over rectangles; a change of perspective would show him that polymorphism isn't the problem.
 
@Aaron3468 I like Jokers analytic ability in the dark knight movie & I truly believe that people would blow up the boat in real life at end of movie. As a borderline hoarder, I hate joker's murderous and destructive tendency. In comparison, batman was an idiot in that movie - who can't get things right with billions of dollars.
 
8:15 AM
Any ideas on how to make lambdas to be lazy evaluated?
 
@Telkitty The boat is like the Cuban Missile Crisis, and yes, it's very probable. Joker seems aware that consequences, including of wastefulness, don't matter if you accept them. It's a sort of confidence that helps me a lot in real life.
 
Ven
@Misgevolution ¿¿
 
nwp
@Aaron3468 may I steal this?
@Morwenn and this?
 
@nwp Sure, can't see how you can steal an idea ;)
If you learn that consequences are okay, and you learn to draw boundaries on which consequences you'll take, you become a lot more secure in yourself. It helped me get past the sensation that I have to be perfect and instead focus on improving.
 
Git users, do you use the summary line and the rest of the change description split?
I always find the summary line length too short.
 
8:23 AM
Batman's character arch in that movie is Coping with Fear & Insecurity 101, taught by Joker, PhD
And fear is one of the primary motifs too :)
 
nwp
@wilx there doesn't seem to be a hard limit, only a suggested one. I just put whatever size message in there.
 
@nwp Not mine, so no problem.
 
@nwp I know it is not hard limit. But somebody thought it was a good idea and I have problems seeing that or using that. :)
 
@nwp And you can have this too if you want.
 
user1804599
Jul 8 '14 at 12:41, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@Oleg Please be more vague; I almost understood your question.
 
8:29 AM
@Morwenn poly_collection is pretty damn smart
Not sure if that was correct English.
 
jouzu dekita yo! It was good!
 
@orlp lol
 
user6225166
hi
 
user6225166
topic? topics?
 
We're now on the topic of which topic(s) we're now on
 
user6225166
8:35 AM
lol
 
Ven
look rightfold, look where the sun is going
 
user1804599
> ES6 has closed the gap considerably
 
user1804599
generators and fat arrows oh so much better
 
user6225166
@Ven a new langage. does it need a compiler?
 
Ben
@Ven congratulations for your efforts on that project.
 
8:43 AM
Halp me, I'm going too deep. I'm making animation channels for an led on my arduino.
 
user6225166
@Aaron3468 Waw. interesting your project.
 
user6225166
XD i like to program this kind of project at my work.
 
user6225166
@Aaron3468 is it for work?
 
It started out with an rgb led. Right now I have it making blinking patterns in different colours and tempos. I call it LEDJing.
No, it's practice with circuit analysis. I can finally keep my leds from being burnt out by choosing the right resistors and power input
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah. That's why I remembered it :D
 
user6225166
8:48 AM
you study electronics or you google .
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Wind in Amsterdam today.
 
user6225166
@Bassie not a wind , a storm. or not?
 
@GNACBetombo Both. I'm taking a degree in comp sci and operational research
Ideally, I'd like to get to a point where I can make a USB to headphone MP3 player; flash drives are getting so big that an MP3 player can have 256GB fully removable memory. I hate installing special, buggy software to transfer files, or relying on my phone's tiny capacity, so I only need a USB to music converter
 
user1804599
> (meteorology) a wind scale for very strong wind, stronger than a gale, less than a hurricane (10 or higher on the Beaufort scale).
 
user1804599
8:52 AM
storms are winds
 
Question: Sometimes when i use "git checkout master" the changes made from the previous branch are automatically merged into master, why is this?
 
@Mysticial lol
 
user6225166
@Aaron3468 is it possible? how can you convert an usb to headphone? i bother me
 
nwp
@GNACBetombo you really do
 
user6225166
not really . just curious
 
9:04 AM
You buy a computer brain (microcontroller) and teach it to read USB/find songs, connect it to a few audio microcontrollers to turn the data into sound, and then spit that sound out through an AUX jack to plug into headphones or stereos. It wouldn't be very big.
But I'll need to learn a lot about file systems, and signal processing
 
user1804599
9:24 AM
Xylophones are super rad.
 
Yes they are
 
user1804599
If you think they aren't then you're a xylophobe.
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Metallophones are cool too.
And lithophones when you don't have anyhing to make an instrument.
 
Ven
@Ben well... thanks
 
user1804599
Add a dangerous commit to LiveScript that removes some vital files when you run the cimpoler.
 
9:51 AM
Ven
if you're Terran, how the unholy fuck do you fast expand against Protoss?
currently I've been trying a marauder concussive shell fast expand, as that's the only thing that can actually contest even like, 1-2 stalkers or adepts
but I've just played a game where some smartass warped pylons in my base with his scouting probe and then sent his mothership core across
even after I killed the pylons, the mothership core is sitting over my rax, and if I make Marines I'm just gonna die to the like,1 adept sitting outside my wall
 
@Griwes Shiny x)
What paper?
 
maybe it's just Ruins of Endion being a bit shit
 
Ven
Marauder/conc shell fast expand is hard to pull off if your opponent is scouting
Basically, if you're going to fast expand, you need to delay the addons
 
yeah
 
Ven
otherwise you won't have enough marines to defend
 
9:55 AM
but if you delay the addons, then he can just make like 2 adepts.
and then what am I going to do?
I'll have a few marines and he will have adepts.
 
Ven
are you able to individually micro marines in this kind of situation?
you need to full-wall either way
 
ok, but on Endion, the natural ramp is fucking huge and I can't realistically wall it off in time
 
@ThePhD why yes, of course
 
Ven
I mean the first ramp, not the second one
 
ok, but the first ramp only protects my main.
 
Ven
9:58 AM
yes
 
this kinda loses the point of fast expanding if I can't protect the natural.
 
Ven
do you have the time to complete the CC or does your worker get killed?
 
I usually build the CC in the main and then fly it over
 
Ven
okay, then I don't see the issue.
 
ok let me rephrase
 
Ven
9:59 AM
the adepts aren't going to kill your buildings anyway
the CC is not gonna die
 
how the unholy fuck am I supposed to actually occupy the low ground and mine from my natural without a walloff with a few marines against some adepts?
 
Ven
don't. Build your CC in-base, and wall off. Then lift the CC there, and start the Orbital upgrade. You won't be building SCV there in the meantime for adepts to kill. And the adepts won't be able to kill the CC
 
maybe the answer is that I just need to make more marines
 
Ven
By the time it's done upgrading to an orbital, you should have enough marines to fend off early adept harass. Then you can make addons
 
ok, but that's kinda the problem
so far if I have marines without stim or any upgrades, I can't really contest the adepts.
e.g. if I lower the supply depot to send my marines down to the low ground, then they will just shade into the main because shades are so fucking shit.
 
Ven
10:01 AM
yeah, you need to be very careful when lowering the supply depots.
 
and then even once you get down to the low ground
 
Ven
If you really feel like that's an issue, then start your factory and build a hellion. They outrun adepts
 
user1804599
@Ven conc shell or cons cell
 
they can use the shades for vision up the ramp and kill the marines up there anyway
or just shade past the marines into the mineral line
 
Ven
not with even a single hellion
 
10:03 AM
@Ven Yeah, but Adepts do jesuswtfdamage to hellions, and hellions do very little damage to adepts.
I considered using hellions against adepts before, because their great speed really would help against the shades
but I don't see how the hellions can help once they actually catch up to the adept.
I did consider using blueflame hellbat drops in the midgame though against that adept/immo ball that's so popular now
I mean, I could probably kill the Adept fairly easily with a Cyclone, I guess
they're just so slow to get that by the time you have a Cyclone, it's pretty much not a fast expand anymore
it's a super-slow expand
of course Protoss can just warp in a pylon at the natural and be super safe
 
Ven
it's a long warpin tho
 
yeah, but the units I'm facing they can make off one gateway, so they don't even really need to interrupt their build at all to nearly kill me
on the other hand, if I wanted to contest their fast expansion, I'd need to do like proxy rax all-in or something
although I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that Endion is just a kind of shit map
at least on a map like Frost you can walloff on the low ground
 
Ven
yeah it'd make it a pretty slow expand
 
even if they found you in time
 
Ven
adept-pylon push early game is really strong
but it also means they don't fast-expand
 
10:12 AM
I have a data type representing duration of an animation. It goes begin_delay ~> duration ~> end_delay. What should I call it?
 
since when?
I've yet to witness any Protoss that could not make a mothership core and a couple adepts off their fast expand
 
nwp
@Aaron3468 Duration, possibly AnimationDuration but probably not
 
I'm thinking something like Cycle. not sure how clear it is though
 
@Morwenn It was either const inheritance or "partial" classes, can't remember right now.
 
Oh.
Are we interested in seeing further work on immutable lists that solve valid use cases?
SF F N A SA
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10:18 AM
hmm
 
Ven
> that solve valid use cases
 
I guess I never stopped to ask myself how much shit I'd be in if they didn't fast expand.
 
nwp
I wanted to read some articles on my phone while on the way, and because I am a dinosaur I don't have mobile internet
 
About the proposed std::overload:
Should the returned call wrapper forward cv-qualifiers and ref-qualifiers?
SF F N A SA
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(Note from jwakely: it was suggested that forwarding qualifiers just falls out of the implementation naturally)

Forward this to LWG for C++Next?
SF F N A SA
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nwp
turns out the android browser lets you "save website for offline reading", but they forgot "read website stored for offline reading"
in other words my articles are gone -.-
 
10:20 AM
@Morwenn Also dunno if you noticed, but all signs in heaven and on earth show that exception_list is dead, at least for C++17 :D
 
now I'm stuck in my own base.
fucking forcefields
 
Ven
D:
 
I fucking hate Protoss.
 
@Griwes No, I haven't seen anything about it. Last time I read about it they wanted to specify the constructors.
How will the parallel algorithms handle exceptions then?
 
@Morwenn Yes! Bryce came to this meeting with a paper that improved it, but LEWG didn't like that paper much. He wanted to have all policies to throw it, but that also wasn't liked (and would still need fixing exception_list before C++17, because it's an exception, so it might be thrown across ABI boundaries).
And now Bryce has moved through SG1, LEWG and LWG with a paper that changes all the execution policies for C++17 to call std::terminate() if an exception escapes the element access function. :D
 
10:23 AM
Pure violence.
 
Pure consistency. :D
 
Locale-agnostic number<->string conversion functions:
forward D0067R3 (without tuple-like accessors) to LWG for C++17?

SF F N A SA
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@Griwes And easy to implement.
 
We (well, mostly Pablo Halpern) have had some ideas for how to fix this later (by specifying the policies together with a user callback to handle exceptions), to still avoid ever having exception_list.
 
Good.
Still want to deprecate temporary bufers?
SF F N A SA
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Still want to deprecate std::iterator?
SF F N A SA
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But after a short bikeshedding session on the idea, Bryce decided that we can't possibly design this fully for C++17 (which would mean either designing it and proceeding with it before plenary tomorrow, or fixing this via an NB comment, which is bad), so he opted for just trying to pass "call std::terminate() and fix that after C++17".
The funny fact is that on Tuesday evening, he went to ask a few library maintainers for what they would do if it was implementation-defined; Marshall didn't like std::terminate() much, but Jonathan Wakely, after being silent for a moment, said "std::terminate()". :D
 
10:27 AM
:)
Anyway, I need to go for now. Later.
 
argh
disruptors!
and tempests.
why is it that every Terran unit has a Protoss hard counter, but all the Terran units only soft counter Protoss units.
I mean, I can set up Liberators, but they take actual time to do their damage instead of basically instantly and Tempests own them hardcore
 
nwp
@Puppy why do you put so much energy into SC2? I can already eliminate fun.
 
it can be very fun
 
Ven
@Puppy protoss have no hard counters to ghost, to vikings, to marauders...
 
marauders: immo, storm, disruptor
 
Ven
10:31 AM
well yeah, you need to split against disruptors. Storm, not that much. and it's a crappily designed spell anyway
 
vikings, hell, tempests can do a good enough job of that on their own, hardly need much extra support there, but some stalkers and storm can easily cover it
and as for Ghosts, in many ways they're so crappy they don't really need that much of a counter, but some feedback can handle them just fine
 
Ven
if you don't have ghosts by the time they have a lot of tempests, you're playing the game wrong
and you should have enough marine with your marauders to stim-kill immos
 
yeah, stim-killing them with Marines is not only not as effective as it should be, but that's what 99 adepts are for
I mean
yeah, I could split against disruptors
the problem is that I have to deploy all my liberators, stim my bio, and then also start splitting them within like, one second of the fight starting
 
Hah, CWG apparently discovered design issues with operator..
I'm shocked. SHOCKED.
 
and then if I had ghosts, I'd also have to actually start EMPing shit
 
10:34 AM
(...not)
 
so I need to micro the fuck out of every single unit to get even remote effectiveness
whereas the Protoss guy basically just A-moved and fired disruptors
 
nwp
@Puppy how about you play protoss for a while? "How do I beat X against Y?" -> play Y and hope you get an X
 
bool empty() const { return !size(); } // would you consider this tricky (bad) code?
 
nwp
there is always a chance that the answer is "don't do that"
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked why would I ever consider bad code?
 
nwp
10:36 AM
@StackedCrooked no
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, that's terrible.
integer-to-boolean conversions are a shit mistake in the language and should not be used.
@nwp Yeah, but I already know what the counter is - just stack 300APM.
all that's gonna happen if I play Protoss is that I'll just own a bunch of noobs and then I'll come up against guys who actually do have 300APM and then I'll just stack losses again
 
Ven
Splitting with stimmed bio really isn't that hard.
 
it is when you also need to deploy all your liberators and then also EMP the other guy
and then split all of your bio, not just some of it.
 
nwp
maybe cheat a bit: every time you win too much concede a couple of times to get into a lower bracket so you can keep playing and wining without putting in the apm
 
and then even if you have your liberators pre-deployed and you also have Vikings, the Tempests can just kite the Vikings till the cows come home so you can't even just take a good position and hold there
really the Tempest is just a fucked unit, the Tempest should be countered by vikings, not the counter to Vikings most of the time
 
user1804599
10:45 AM
I want to write a video game in SQL and COBOL.
 
see the Liberator nerf vs Corruptors for how Terran units aren't allowed to be fucked in that way
 
user6225166
@Bassie are you serious?
 
user6225166
what kind of game?
 
user1804599
I worked so hard in primary school to earn this pen and now they want me to vote using a pencil! #iVoted https://t.co/tyvYzLOyA0
 
user1804599
wat voting with a pencil that makes no sense
 
user1804599
10:50 AM
it's too easy to fraud
 
user1804599
uncoloured pencils apparently, which is even worse
 
11:04 AM
Repost?
When you see it.
 
Wait, I think operator.() has just been postponed for after C++17.
EWG now at P0095R1: Pattern Matching and Language Variants.
 
@Griwes wut
nopls
Make them take it back.
Whhhyyy rrgrgrghhh.
 
There's serious problems that Core will never allow to get into the standard.
Also operator.() is not a very good feature.
 
It's a great feature, damnit.
I want my transparent references.
 
No, it's not a very good feature.
Not as specified in the Bjarne's paper, at the very least.
 
11:12 AM
The Bjarne.
The Ville™
 
> the Bjarne's paper
lrn2rd
 
Still, I don't want to have to unwrap my refs everytime.
It's no fun.
 
vOv
I prefer having a better designed feature later, than a feature I'll have to actively fight with earlier.
Current C++ standards committee theory: as spec'd, operator dot may be Turing complete. http://wg21.link/p0252r1 5th TC subset of C++?
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where is this discussion taking place and why is it not in EWG
 
@sehe Is that gamedev barbie or wtv its called?
 
no clue. It's barbie. And she has a bookshelf
 
11:19 AM
welcome to international "Lets see how gullible the British are" day!
 
user1804599
Barbie = slut
 
Just voted in the referendum, could be an interesting night tonight
 
@sehe it's the horrible game developer barbie... that apparently can't code and has to rely on others to code for her... for random reasons
 
C++ steadily evolving into a better Brainfuck. I love it. https://twitter.com/jfbastien/status/745937610967760896
C# room is actively banning people laughing out loud
 
when?
 
11:28 AM
@Griwes Where's the actual rationale for it being TC? I don't see anything indicating that in the paper linked to
 
@Guriwesu my theory. Proof is left as an exercice to the reader ☺
 
@JohanLarsson Flagged seconds before
 
I'm going to ask JF to explain if I get a chance. :P
 
@Mgetz Which result is the British being gullible?
 
@Griwes we're gonna need a bigger margin
 
11:30 AM
@sehe ok, I can't see flags yet
maybe in two years
 
@Puppy believing boorish Johnson, the fact of the matter is that to participate in the common market the UK would have to adhere to EU rules... but wouldn't get a say in them
 
@Guriwesu I hope the consensus is "no", or that the proposal is updated so the answer is "no"!
hah
 
yeah I think that there are no real arguments for Leave
 
@Puppy the only real argument seems to be the Ferage argument e.g. racism
 
@JohanLarsson they'll be long gone
 
11:32 AM
I wouldn't really consider that to be a real argument
 
@sehe haha
 
Return values for emplace functions:
Forward to LWG for C++17 (or next practical train)?
SF F N A SA
9 5 0 0 0
To be honest, I'd rather have them return iterators than references, but whatever.
Do we want to have bitwise operations on `std::byte` for C++17?
SF F N A SA
3 7 2 2 1

Do we want to call it storage_byte?
SF F N A SA
4 2 3 3 5

Do we want to recommend the enum class definition for byte to LWG?
SF F N A SA
2 4 8 2 0

Forward to LWG for C++17 with compound bitwise operators added and constexpr/noexcept added to all operations?
SF F N A SA
4 7 3 1 1
 

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