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9:01 PM
@AlexM. The guy's reaction is even better
 
the guy's reaction is the point
 
Ever wondered what a Collatz Sequence Graph looks like for the first couple hundred positive integers? I did!
 
@AlexM. which guy's reaction, actually?
 
user1804599
What does Bash do when pipe system call fails?
 
user1804599
When constructing a pipeline like echo hello | tac.
 
9:08 PM
@sehe Oh hi! ;~;
 
the one who's loudest
 
@AlexM. there's just some dodgy piano...
 
there are two videos above
 
That's what I'm looking at
 
9 mins ago, by Alex M.
@nabijaczleweli chickens are always fun in pro matches see this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCnDpnCch7E
^ this one
 
9:12 PM
I'm lost. Where is the reaction you were talking about before chickens came into it. The sequence of messages I screenshotted and posted. Nothing is in between. Nothing before seems to be relevant.
Is my chat window out of order?
 
@AlexM. lol
 
Chickens is the most exciting part of watching esports
Just like people throwing pizzas for sports
 
makes sense
 
user1804599
very nice
 
user1804599
I figured it out.
 
9:20 PM
patent it
 
user1804599
echo hello | tac will compile to this instruction sequence: gist.github.com/rightfold/cadbaa8343b7055464a1
 
you forgot to patent it
 
user1804599
Patents are too expensive.
 
for the licensee
 
user1804599
It is broken.
 
user1804599
9:23 PM
set_stdin pops two operands off the stack. Problem is that they're both file descriptors, instead of a command and a file descriptor.
 
Evening
 
user1804599
I could add immediate operands to popping instructions that indicate the offset from the top of the stack.
 
user1804599
And make them not pop.
 
user1804599
Meh, I don't know.
 
user1804599
rot3 instruction that turns {1, 2, 3} into {3, 1, 2}.
 
9:26 PM
@Xeo R1 or R2 or both?
 
@rightfold sounds too hacky. It must be simpler
 
user1804599
Like this:
 
user1804599
pipe // stack: cmd1 cmd2 cmd1 cmd2 reader writer
rotate_3 // stack: cmd1 cmd2 cmd1 writer cmd2 reader
 
user1804599
Then set_stdin and set_stdout will work fine.
 
Use Forth :v
Well, Factor probably
 
user1804599
9:29 PM
I think compiling to Factor code is overkill.
 
Don't compile
 
user1804599
Why not?
 
Just use it directly :v
 
@CatPlusPlus you know what also starts with Factor
 
Xeo
@Borgleader Just my room
 
user1804599
9:30 PM
No. :v
 
user1804599
Also I wonder whether I could perform tail-fork–exec optimisation.
 
@Xeo Ah, I'm at 64.8M atm
You guys are still on track, need about 4.4M/hour to make it.
 
sdd
Any Swift programmers in here?
 
@sdd I'm as Swift as your mother in bed
@sdd This is how you escalate a (poor) joke/pun into a non-joke. GG
 
user1804599
oh it's fathers day
 
9:44 PM
@sdd Are you trying to see how quickly you can get kicked? Is that what your repeated entrances into this (and other) rooms are about?
 
@rightfold It is is some parts of the world, it's tomorrow in others
 
sdd
@jaggedSpire I am trying to find Swift programmers, that should be clear if you read what I said in the other rooms..
 
@sdd that's a little bit too much.
 
sdd
@FlorianMargaine What do you mean?
 
@sdd are you really asking?
 
9:48 PM
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 29 minutes.
 
user1804599
@sehe I'll call it up_rotate_3.
 
you wont get an answer for about 30 min, if at all
 
@rightfold doesn't matter what you call it
 
@Borgleader I know. The chat is persistent though.
 
user1804599
It's an upwards shift with rotating semantics.
 
user1804599
9:49 PM
Or, even better, up_rotate n.
 
user1804599
It's a really nice and useful instruction.
 
@FlorianMargaine I was just mentioning it in case you hadn't noticed he got banned.
 
his message being deleted gave it away
 
user1804599
ANOTHER option would be to have pipe take two commands and create a pipe between them.
 
user1804599
Instead of pushing pipe ends onto the stack.
 
9:50 PM
That being said I wasnt fond of @nabijaczleweli's mother message that lead to this in the first place. I almost flagged both. Within regulars whom you know are ok with this kind of joke I don't mind, but @sdd is by no means a regular.
so I'd prefer if ppl held off on the shenanigans, i dont like mod inquisitions
 
I think I recall him doing the same thing yesterday: came in, asked about swift programmers, got a trollish response, escalated way beyond it, and got kicked.
 
@Borgleader Thanks for the clarification, I will limit my horrible jokes/bad puns from now on
 
user1804599
Which I think is pretty reasonable.
 
@sehe did you plonk minibartek?
 
no
 
user1804599
9:58 PM
Excellent.
 
1 hour ago, by nabijaczleweli
Dat chicken doe
 
user1804599
Thank you sehe for helping me.
 
the 2nd vid was a reply to that
 
user1804599
What language shall I implement it in?
 
@AlexM. I don't care about the second vid. I was never talking about it, not confused by it. I can see how the guy's reaction is great in that vid.
My whole point is you said "his reaction is great" in relation to the first vid (the swastika thing?). I didn't see what that was referring to
 
10:06 PM
the reaction of the guy drawing it
 
I didn't see a reaction (other than him being blasted to pieces)
That's why I mentioned the dodgy piano. Maybe something was being said?
 
you noticed that he was drawing it wrong, right?
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
don't tell @Xeo
 
@Xeo 21 min charge, were heading straight for the delta quadrant
 
Xeo
10:13 PM
1 message moved to bin
Fuck off with that link
Just fuck off.
 
Xeo
@Borgleader Saw that, 17m jump
 
@Xeo Oh my, I'm so glad I wasn't wearing my headphones
jeez that would have been painful
 
Xeo
PSA: Post that fucking link and you'll earn a kick next time.
It's just stupid.
 
I opened it
lol looks like something columbo would post alright
 
10:15 PM
@Xeo oh wait, its not what it looks?
 
@AlexM. Can't quite see how that makes sense
 
probably better that way :A
 
:∀
 
Xeo
what cards do you have
I want level 2 badge
I'm missing two cards
need Dansky and Z-Lo
 
@Rapptz i have z-lo
 
10:21 PM
@rightfold Wtf you already posted the link
I just now saw the bin message
 
user1804599
:D
 
@Borgleader gib
 
Any tips for someone learning C++?
 
git gud
 
@Tokencodingnewbie Get a new book. Preferably created w/ C++14 in mind
 
10:22 PM
Someone learning C++ who knows very little about programming?
 
@Tokencodingnewbie google.ro/…
 
I have the principal of programming in c++ or whatever it's called.
@AlexM. Thank you, I wasn't being lazy I just wanted a chance to be able to ask current developers themselves. Not trying to annoy, sorry.
 
the question is pretty broad
 
I'm about to quit my dead end job and try to self teach my way into a coding career.
 
@Tokencodingnewbie Don't trust magic. Ever
 
10:24 PM
have you tried programming things in C++?
usually programming things in C++ is a great way to learn C++
 
Well that's what I'm doing currently.
 
Always try to understand stuff, not just blindly trust it
 
@nabijaczleweli Well there is some stuff I've "accepted" it for what it is assuming I'll come back and learn about it more in depth in the future.
 
@Tokencodingnewbie As long as you do - that's a good idea
 
10:27 PM
Yeah sometimes I feel like I could go down an endless rabbit hole of research of stuff my non programming brain isn't ready for.
 
@Ell My friend wants to build a PC tomorrow (he's been stuck with a crappy laptop for some time now) and we're thinking of putting an R9-380 in the thing.
 
@Tokencodingnewbie I think this video is good
 
I'll see then how it performs.
 
Ell
@Nooble Oh cool
Do get back to me
 
Will do.
 
10:30 PM
ahhh...
 
It'll be quite the adventure, there.
The nearest computer parts warehouse I think is in Flushing NY.
 
how are header files created
 
You like, open up your favorite text editor.
 
theres no compiler
 
@snipe Create new file, save with .h/.hpp/.h++
 
10:33 PM
what I mean is how do you define it in binary
 
and you have a header file!
 
@snipe Eh?
 
@snipe that makes no sense
 
@snipe It's just included in a .cpp file, which is then compiled.
 
if I wanted to create a new header file then how would I define each new verb
 
10:34 PM
What.
 
@snipe verb!?!?
what are you on about =/
 
@snipe Verbs are not in the scope of The International Standard
 
or for an existing header file how is (for example) printf defined
 
@snipe You need to conjugate the header file for a .cpp file of course.
 
Oh boy
It's Sunday
and it's work time
 
10:34 PM
9 mins ago, by rightfold
@Tokencodingnewbie http://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list and https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/GoingNative/2013/Cpp-Seasoning and http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/GoingNative/2013/Inheritance-Is-The-Base-Class-o‌​f-Evil
 
@VermillionAzure It's Monday now
 
there must be something that says how printf works
 
Yes, the binary.
 
else it would be meaningless
 
@snipe en.cppreference.org
 
10:35 PM
but how do you work that out
 
@AlexM. lol thanks for that video, was a good watch.
 
@snipe The C International Standard
 
@snipe You link the library?
 
@snipe you write code for it obv
 
code in what language
 
10:36 PM
@snipe C.
 
Xeo
@Borgleader: 3.7m jump finally :D
 
@snipe N1570
 
Im not following
 
@Xeo \o/
 
@snipe Okay. What's your question again?
 
10:37 PM
@snipe Go here, it'll help you
 
I dont think so
 
@nabijaczleweli not for me
it's just noon
 
@VermillionAzure Ah, you are -10, right...
 
how does one define what everything typed in C actually means
 
@Nooble He went from how are header files created to how do you write printf, i dont think he has a specific question
 
10:38 PM
@snipe It's defined in N1570
 
whats that
 
@Borgleader Yeah...
 
@snipe Look it up
 
@snipe The standard.
 
I see
 
10:38 PM
@nabijaczleweli -11 or soething
 
Xeo
@Borgleader final charge for you, it seems :D
 
@snipe What do you mean by "define"?
 
@Nooble #define printf
 
@Xeo nope =/
 
@nabijaczleweli Heh.
 
Xeo
10:39 PM
aww
 
well printf needs to be understood as to what to do by the computer
 
@snipe Yes, it is.
 
@VermillionAzure I'm +2, and it's midnight (+40 minutes), so if it's noon for you, you're in -10
 
It's compiled.
 
@nabijaczleweli lol
 
10:40 PM
this is going nowhere hits plonk button
 
@Nooble Plonk him. Plonk him good
 
we're like half a world away
 
@VermillionAzure Nearly exactly half
 
@nabijaczleweli damn it i wanted to find a cheesy disney song for this but nope
Like, "We're a half a world away but we're all okay..............!!!"
 
@AlexM. Cool. Mentions Hello worlds in many languages. Includes Elixir /cc @rightfold
 
10:47 PM
Has anyone played ARK: Survival Evolved?
Looks like a nice game.
 
:24016102 Jasshork (/cc Columbo)
 
@VermillionAzure We're a quarter of a world away!
 
@sehe it made me think that the problem I was trying to solve when I learned how to program
 
Xeo
@Borgleader So close :D
 
was building some tools to generate scripts for a game
so I wouldn't have to write them manually
 
10:50 PM
@sehe ?
 
@Xeo ikr, troll jmp to 99.8M
 
@AlexM. I was trying to hack a game.
 
I haf to go back to work this morning :<
I don't wanna
staying home for 3 weeks was sooo good
 
@Columbo Look:
Jun 9 at 16:21, by Alex M.
Jan 8 at 12:57, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@BartekBanachewicz if I need to explain it to you then you will not understand
 
final charge
 
10:56 PM
2300kV
 
@sehe If I can't understand what you tell me, stop messaging me, for a start
 
@AlexM. You had a break? Why?
 
Xeo
@Borgleader gratz :P
 
@Nooble holiday?
 
@AlexM. Oh :P
 
10:57 PM
@Columbo The problem is, I don't control your understanding
 
@Xeo tyty
 
@sehe I have no fucking clue what Jasshork is supposed to mean, and the superfluous Google search didn't reveal anything either.
 
wtf, i was at 104XP from lvl 31 before that badge, i got the badge and im still at 104XP from lvl 31
T_T
 
@rightfold Niet accuraat helemaal. Bijv. "De drie jaren komende" zijn moet eigenlijk, "De drie jaren komenden". Laat ons blijven puristen.
@Columbo Sorry. Couldn't decide between asshole and jerk?
 
@sehe Starts clapping slowly
@sehe I should reward you with a medal for your ingenuity
 
11:02 PM
I love how you act up all entitled and frustrated (don't message me with your shit) while apparently you thought FUCKING OKAY to post your prank link here.
 
@sehe I know, right? What an asshole.
 
@Columbo And you should take the opportunity to reflect. For at least 6 seconds. Maybe even longer.
 
@sehe Sorry mate, I'm pissed off today.
 
Apparently. What's worse, you're pissing off others. This will end well.
Good night.
 
@sehe Well, I don't really understand why you messaged me in the first place. How am I a jasshole for posting my first prank link ever? (Apart from one other time)
I'm entitled to one prank link a year.
Next year I'll refer to a manual but will link to Google. Just wait for it.
 
11:06 PM
@Columbo You mean jasshork?
 
@Nooble I meant jazzhole.
 
jasshork sounds like the name of a creature from a game
 
@AlexM. Like an ogre.
 
@AlexM. A game of life
 
Sherk.
It's like Shrek but Sherk.
Ahh I bought ARK: Survival Evolved.
There's another 15GB to my 250GB SSD.
 
11:10 PM
I don't install games on SSD
the space is better used for other things and the loading times on a 7200rpm hdd are great anyway
 
@AlexM. Not really and... not really? :D
 
what do you mean not really?
 
@AlexM. Did you actually try playing something that takes ages to load?
 
I haven't found a game that takes ages to load since I was playing gothic 3 at release
 
Well, there's hardly anything better to put on an SSD anyway.
 
11:12 PM
I appreciate visual studio starting in 3 seconds
and my projects loading fast
 
@AlexM. You think that, because you aren't playing games from an SSD and don't have a comparison. :D
Yeah, sure. That's what, 20GiB? 30GiB?
 
and the browser's snappiness
 
What are you going to do with the remaining 200?
(...or in my case 400...)
 
Yeah you should be annoyed because the loading times that don't annoy you might be slightly shorter!!!!
 
...
Okay, cat's here with his nonargument, so I'm out.
 
11:14 PM
it's a really silly argument
 
yours, not cat's
 
@AlexM. What other things?
 
He said he's fine with loading times
 
the longest loading game I've played recently was witcher 3 and it only loaded once
it took around 20 seconds, once
 
11:15 PM
I put my games and my OS on the SSD and videos and other stuff on my HDD.
 
why would I invest extra $$$ to make it load in 10 seconds?
 
"No no no you're wrong for being fine, you don't have comparison"
SSD fanboys are the worst
 
Okay, so instead of using that SSD to make that 20s 2s, you are... not using the SSD at all.
Nice.
 
^ my SSD after installing all the tools and projects I do
 
11:15 PM
Yes. So you are essentially wasting 50% of it.
But okay, whatever floats your goat man.
 
that's mine
 
@Griwes next time just arrive to that conclusion when you try to argue against someone saying "I don't do X because Y is fine for me"
and stop looking stupid
 
I am not underusing my SSD, so I'm not the one looking stupid here.
 
runnin out
 
11:18 PM
don't bother getting SSD smaller than 250 GB
 
@Griwes I swear to god this is the only time I noticed you
were you always like this?
 
I can't remember anything else about you
 
@milleniumbug Yeah.
 
Ok, I'm on keybase
Why does it take eternity to generate keys
 
11:19 PM
What is keybase anyway.
 
Dunno
 
@milleniumbug I think I'll buy a 250GB with the next build but I wouldn't go over that
 
I've been to the website, still don't get it.
 
it's shiny stuff
 
it's more than enough for the things I do
 
11:20 PM
@milleniumbug Because you need a good entropy pool
 
@milleniumbug Oooh I like those!
 
I think I maxed out at 300GB worth of games installed at one time a while ago
I uninstall rarely and only when I'm certain I don't like the game(s)
 
@Nooble It literally says what it is on front page
 
it can encrypt stuff
 
Icewind Dale is still on my HDD since 3 years ago, waiting for me to finish it
 
11:21 PM
yeah, so can HTTPS
and SSH
 
That's an optional convenience feature
It's about identity/key verification
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes but why the need to make it a web service?
> Well, Keybase is a website, but it's also an open source command line program.
 
@Nooble Uh
 
@Nooble Everything's a web service these days
 
What else would it be
 
11:23 PM
Your OS will become a web service soon
 
It's an identity registry
 
Do they store my private key there
I don't like it
 
@milleniumbug Soon? Latency is too high.
 
No
I mean you can optionally store it, and it's then downloaded by the client in encrypted form and decrypted locally
 
...still generating...
 
11:25 PM
@AlexM. Eh, fuck this. I almost wrote an actual reply to that message of yours. You are free to think whatever you want about me. You are free to plonk me if you don't want to see what I write. You know what? Best do that, then I'll do that and we will be happy forever after that.
 
But it's not the important part
Also if you're using the browser client then you probably need like newest Chrome or something otherwise your JS engine is likely too slow
 
is it the advertised "web of trust"
 
Not really, it's a bit different concept
 
...still generating...
 
You should get GPG and generate the key locally anyway
 
11:32 PM
I am
 
How big
 
what how big
 
The key size
 
oh, I thought when I install gnupg and let keybase generate the key, it will use gnupg
when running the keybase gen command
 
Dunno
 
11:34 PM
It didn't let me choose key size
I chose long passphrase, so that may be it
 
Nah that has no bearing on the generation time
You don't have enough entropy
Maybe it hanged because GPG tried to ask you for random keyboard input
 
I'm running it in VM, does it matter?
 
Or you missed the pinentry window
lol yes
You can install haveged to boost the entropy pool, but you'll get better randomness by not running it in VM
 
Oh, it finished
 
Ell
I'm bad at private keys, I don't really understand them
 
11:41 PM
You don't have to
Just keep them to yourself
Yeah, I have a key published
now what
 
Ell
Now prove your github, your Twitter etc.
 
Xeo
@Borgleader 7min charge! :D
 
@Xeo Hooray! I keep checking your room to see if theres space so I can help out. So far no luck.
 
@Ell you can just post a gist/tweet/whatever with a statement mentioning your public key fingerprint and what account you are proving and sign it with your key.
 
Ell
I see
Now I just need something interesting to sign
Also. My github private key is associated with an email. I'm not really sure what this association is
Is that just a label for the key?
 
11:56 PM
Yes
Well, what key, really
GPG keys have 'subject' field which is part of the key, SSH keys don't and the labels in GH are just fyi
 
Ell
Right. I'm in bed ATM but I'll look tomorrow
Not sure if it's gpg or ssh
 
Well, what private key are you talking about
 

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