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3:01 PM
is it a Saturn V rocket that doubles as a beer fridge?
 
Those two things found me, not the other way round. I am very happy with my current state, being a semi hermit. I love being a semi hermit!
 
@Puppy jet engines are actually a rather fun way of cooling your beer
 
@JerryCoffin ¬_¬ sillence
 
@JerryCoffin April 1 jokes should be punishable by public flogging.
 
Ven
3:16 PM
"because objective-c++ wasn't horrible enough"
 
concuur
 
How to write makefiles: dont
 
@CatPlusPlus why not?
 
I wrote a ninja file to write makefiles once :p
 
user1804599
3:30 PM
I want to live in a cave.
 
I have a conjecture
the phrase "a code" is a very good indicator that a question is downvote-worthy
 
@orlp Often true.
 
of course you'd need to filter for "a code sample", etc
 
Being on snack overflow is a very good indicator that a question is downvote-worthy
 
but just "a code" on it's own usually means the question is poop
 
3:33 PM
I bought RimWorld
 
@CatPlusPlus sexy
 
Runs on linux, might be worth to try
 
LOL
from the creator of this:
comes the next episode
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Q: How i make a bootable operating system in batch?

Star OSi am making a OS and i don't know if it will boot as i expect if i make some files for the operating system or i will need some system for that to work? I already have a 7,32 GB universal serial bus, but can i make it to my contents (i will use autorun.bat to start the OS from the Universal seri...

 
Low effort troll
Stop giving it attention
 
user1804599
lol
 
3:40 PM
lol
reminds me of the "How can I do Java stuff?" guy
 
bredpanda.com... wat?
 
How not to do HVAC
 
so erm... yeah... that's quite the dirty hack, setting clang as an alternative to g++ because it was easier than trying to work out how to get the (premake generated) make files to read the $CXX variable for what compiler :\
 
Premake sucks
 
3:48 PM
@orlp Lounge assemble! Justice must be served!
 
user3010322
Urrrgh.
 
Let's close a 1-month question.
 
@CatPlusPlus I know, now, but I'm too lazy to change it out
 
This base design is crap
 
@CatPlusPlus Fog indoors? You got problems
 
3:52 PM
Yes, fog is the biggest problem there
 
@milleniumbug What does its age have to do with anything?
 
@CatPlusPlus what base?
what you on about?
 
@CatPlusPlus What base?
 
RimWorld
 
> RimWorld is a construction and management simulation video game currently being developed by Ludeon Studios. It was released as an early access title for Linux, Mac OS X and Windows on 14 January 2014. It is currently in Alpha release versions
 
3:53 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit Nothing, I also think it should be closed (that's why I closed it). Just thought it was a bit funny.
 
@CatPlusPlus all about that base ...
 
A question lies around for a month, and then it gets discovered... and closed :D
 
@milleniumbug hehe, classic so
 
they actually named the game... RimWorld
 
rimworldia
@ScarletAmaranth btw, Nisekoi S2 started
 
3:58 PM
@StackedCrooked ooo, nice; I completely forgot about that one
 
It's very dorfy game
 
oooooooomg they put the GoT AVI filenames on Chrome's "potentially dangerous" list
 
dorfy?
 
cos that's not an abuse of power at all
 
@ScarletAmaranth Is that the name from Firefly?
 
4:00 PM
Dorf Fortress like
 
@Puppy yess, yessss
 
lol and because uploaded.net limits you to one download per hour, I can't try it again after disabling Chrome's "safety features"
 
It's named after worlds on the edge of the galaxy
 
@cat what would you recommend (to replace premake)
 
Ninja
Write the generator yourself
Or use GYP/CMake if you have the patience
 
4:04 PM
Disgusted at the blatant sexism @FCUK I am a DR & a WOMAN. @4womeninscience @Science_Grrl @Stemettes @steminist http://t.co/GvZ0EfwKnk
3
looool
 
I don't get what Ninja does... it generates files that can be used to generate files that can be used to generate actual build scripts that can actually make a program?
 
No, it's just an executor
 
@LightningRacisinObrit that backfired lol
 
user3010322
@LightningRacisinObrit Lelwat.
 
user3010322
4:06 PM
They actually defaulted "Dr" to "male"?
 
user3010322
Or is that a troll screenshot?
 
fuck it I might actually buy an uploaded.net account. I do use it enough
no wait I ain't giving them any of my personal details
 
@LightningRacisinObrit What about Imgur, ain't that free?
 
phew that was close
 
I never upload pics so Idfc
 
4:07 PM
@Columbo of what use is that to me?
 
@LightningRacisinObrit wait, what are you on about anyway?
uploading pictures?
 
@Columbo yeah, so, here's an idea: don't chip in unless you have a clue what's going on yeh
 
@LightningRacisinObrit bad idea
Ohh now I get it
 
"I already have a 7,32 GB universal serial bus" - made my day — sehe just now
@LightningRacisinObrit possibly because they are potentially dangerous
 
user1804599
Hello!
 
4:09 PM
@sehe It is possible. But my spidey sense thinks it unlikely
 
Sounds more like a fail on the side of uploaded.net
 
oh wait why are these AVIs nobody releases TV in AVI any more
hrmmm
I'm suspicious now
 
user1804599
Alright, got a new Stack Overflow Chat theme.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I'm never surprised anymore. So many formats can allow arbitrary code executions these days. I'm sure there will be stats. Even if only to trick OSX users in clicking trojan "porn movies"
 
user1804599
Green instead of blue; much nicer.
 
4:10 PM
@thecoshman 60 percent of the time, I can come anytime
 
$$\sum_{n=0}^\infty\binom{n}{k}x^n=\frac{x^k}{(1-x)^{k+1}}\tag{1}$$
 
user1804599
I linked to it ages ago.
 
user1804599
With the demand that it shall be used any time mathematics were discussed.
 
$$\text{rightfold-so-hipster}$$
 
user1804599
$$\mathbb{people} = \mathbb{shit}$$
 
4:15 PM
ah this is better. mp4s. yeah I think the uploaded.net uploads were fakes. might be that Chrome was doing me a favour then. sorry Chrome
 
user1804599
Hmm, this thing costs $4 but this other thing only costs $3.
 
My maths teacher is sexist as hell though. When a girl cocks up a question he's like " that's a female thing"
 
> asian standards
Is it ISO standard?
 
@khajvah ISO/IEC 17968:2015
And when a girl excells at maths he is genuinely confused
That guy is truly british
 
@thecoshman No, it does do the building. The confusion might be that the distrib ships with a Python module to help you write those build files (that is in no way mandatory).
The thing is, it’s not intended for things like config either.
 
4:23 PM
@Columbo What does sexism have to do with being British?
sexism is a proud tradition of everybody, everywhere.
 
@Columbo I still say there's a difference between actual sexism, and men making anti-women jokes (and women making anti-men jokes cos shock horror yes that happens too)
the difference is that nobody starts ranting and raving about feminism when your girlfriend tells you that taking out the bins is "a man's job"
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@LightningRacisinObrit okay, but he genuinely believes that women are naturally worse at maths. that's chauvinistic at the very least.
 
ok... so... Ninja is sort of par with make? except probably even dumber than make?
 
@Columbo They just don't study for some reason
 
4:26 PM
@khajvah they do
@Puppy Nothing, when did I say that
You mistakenly associated that sentence with the discussion
 
I mean, I met only one girl that like math and she is really good.
 
> that like math
 
@Columbo Either you implied a causation between "being truly British" and being sexist, or you randomly shat out an unrelated sentence. Either way you're a weirdo.
 
@Columbo you strongly implied he is sexist because he is British.
 
@thecoshman The truth is I'm trying to save myself here
 
4:27 PM
@Columbo Well, if you don't like math, you won't study it.(I am talking about college level stuff)
 
> trying
@khajvah helps if you can spell it
 
@Columbo s/tyring/failing at trying/
 
@thecoshman Yup. Make (or maybe that’s the GNU one) comes loaded with stock rules, can do wildcards, there are several ways to do hierarchical (aka recursive) Makefiles etc. Ninja is very barebones however. Which is the reason you don’t want to write it by hand, it would be very tedious.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit spell what?
 
First of all, I was rather trying to say he's very... traditional and full of stereotypes.
 
4:28 PM
@LucDanton I don't see why I would want to sue it then...
 
@LucDanton what do you use to generate them?
 
Which I do kinda believe to be a british trait.
I am probably wrong, which is okay, as I'm wrong most of the time.
 
@Columbo Unfortunately, conservative pricks exist everywhere.
 
> These are authentic but the image and sound quality isn't optimal. Also there's an annoying watermark on the bottom left corner and there are no subtitles.
Maybe I'll just wait.
 
user1804599
Alright, updated my website.
 
user1804599
4:30 PM
Fuck blogging.
 
Thing is, it doesn't really matter what I do. There's no money to be coming from me for watching it via transmission regardless as we do not have HBO here. And I'll be getting the DVDs anyway. :)
(explanation, not justification)
 
@sehe At first I used a ad-hoc Python program that made use of the aforementioned ninja_syntax.py. As time goes I am refactoring it into a library for declaring project structure.
@thecoshman Out of all the things I used they are either non-declarative or not that great. Except for Ninja.
 
@райтфолд it's terrible
 
Ninja itself advertises itself as 'very fast', and it is. So that’s a reason for some projects.
 
So I decided I'm going to wrap CMake.
Every problem can be solved with another layer of indirection :D
 
user3010322
4:32 PM
@milleniumbug You poor, terrible, unfortunate fool.
 
@LucDanton so.. how do I go about making this ninja build files?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman No, it's very nice.
 
@thecoshman For learning purposes do write your first one by-hand.
 
user3010322
@райтфолд rightfold.sexy?
 
user1804599
Yes!
 
user3010322
4:33 PM
> Telephone: you wish
 
user3010322
I do wish. :(
 
user3010322
I could call you about all my js problems.
 
user3010322
I'm pretty close to just writing in C++ and using emscripten instead.
 
@khajvah There are lots of women studying natural sciences or maths. On universities it's predominantly men (AFAIK), but there is a very significant female part.
 
user3010322
It'll probably have better performance too
 
user1804599
4:34 PM
@ThePhD read the fucking note
 
user1804599
Nice UI testing though; apparently the note isn't clear enough.
 
user3010322
@райтфолд I did. But there's a deep part of me that has a hankering for not listening to good, clear advice I'm given. :D
 
maths has a decent amount of females in university
cs is a sausage fest
 
gosh
Talk about choice of words
"decent amount of females". What.
 
> sausage fest
lol
 
4:36 PM
Sounds they have worse cultural issues there than a gender bias
 
@sehe "significant portion" "good amount" "quite some"
 
@orlp With mostly dirty and smelly sausages.
 
quite some women, yeah. It's what they're usually called
 
user3010322
Sausages taste great.
8
 
user3010322
It's not really a problem that it's a sausage fest, it's just that there's none you can eat.
 
4:38 PM
@ThePhD Don't you love going to university and tasting all the sausage?
 
@ThePhD Technically, you can.
 
user3010322
@khajvah l:
 
@ThePhD You could simply purchase some edible sausage. I'm sure you could get a good deal.
 
user3010322
Yeah... but free food is clearly the best good.
 
@ThePhD You could go to your local homeless shelter.
There's plenty of people there that would love to have their sausage tasted.
 
4:41 PM
but not eaten
 
user3010322
This conversation went downhill very fast.
 
user3010322
I did a bad thing.
 
yep
I heard you also made some terrible jokes about sausage eating
 
user3010322
Does VC++ have a dependency file list generator or something?
 
Actually, that analogy was horrific.
 
4:45 PM
your mum's horrific
 
user1804599
I prefer C-like value semantics with explicit pointers over Java-like always-pointer semantics.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit ... true
 
@ThePhD Well, you got into star board with "I like sausages". That's like Kim Kardashian getting famous by releasing a sex tape.
 
user3010322
> /showIncludes
 
user3010322
I found it!
 
4:45 PM
Kim Kangaskhan
 
Actually, Kim Kardashian was famous because her deceased father was trial lawyer for the case of the decade -- O. J. Simpson.
 
user1804599
PHP 4 had value semantics for class types, which was an absolute killer feature.
 
The sex tape was just the 2000s's fappening
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug Kim Genghis Khan
 
@LightningRacisinObrit ... got?
 
4:46 PM
@райтфолд As in, PHP users were too stupid to figure it out and it killed the feature?
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Famous because of that?
Or was she famous before
 
Yes, that is how her family was mostly famous.
She was but a child at the time.
 
@райтфолд inb4 abstraction inversion guy says it's terrible
 
user1804599
@Puppy I don't know why they changed it in PHP 5.
 
4:47 PM
Of course now with the TV show and the modelling the children have grown up and become famous in their own right.
But to imply that nobody had heard of the Kardashians before some shitty [lol] sex tape came out is just wrong.
Well unless you had your head stuck under a rock stuck up your arse then you knew about the Simpson trial. Even though it was in the United Shits of Ameriyah.
By extension you were aware of Robert Kardashian.
 
@райтфолд I've been having fun in Wide trying to design a new ABI.
 
user1804599
@Puppy Nice.
 
Same way Paris Hilton was said to be famous cos of a sex tape and being a "socialite", but actually we know the Hilton family and that's where it all starts.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Yeah, but only because every fucking news station sends the same shit for a weeks once something "big" happens, like that Germanwings plane crash.
 
user1804599
What are the ABI's features?
 
4:49 PM
Everything else just keeps it going longer
 
user1804599
Why do you need a new ABI?
 
@Columbo The "why" is irrelevant
 
some things Wide supports that C++ does not.
for example, base classes don't have to be located right next to their derived class in memory.
 
user1804599
Woot!
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I know. I still want to emphasize that I (and a lot of other people) do not give a toss about a Simpson trial and I am somehow fed with that info against my will
 
4:50 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit I think I might have had my "head stuck under a rock stuck up your arse"
 
wow that sounds super useful Pups
@khajvah :D
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Homer Simpson had a trial?
 
I've been thinking about changing the implementation of dynamic_cast as well.
 
user1804599
I like to believe Rob Pike is a skinhead.
 
I find it hilarious when people go on about how little they care about celebrititty "gossip" and blame the mass media for talking about it all the time........... for fifteen minutes in a chat room.
 
4:51 PM
so that effectively it would become a virtual member function.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Why do people care about celebrities anyway? Is that a substitute of polytheism?
 
@Columbo I, for exampe, care about her ass only.
 
@Columbo It's escapism like any other. Why do people care about fictional characters in stories?
I propose that following celebrity life is indistinguishable from following fictional life.
 
@Columbo It's a sign of poor education
 
Unless their world directly intersects yours, there's no difference. And, if it does, then your interest has a whole new twist .. a wholly justifiable one, at that.
@Puppy No it's not.
 
Ven
4:56 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit I disagree, fictional people can be interesting </troll:feed>
 
and often are far more interesting and do far more interesting things.
 
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Q: Draw a Triangle in 2D using XNA. Positions of the vertices is kind strange

Marc-Antoine JacobI have the following code: public class Game1 : Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game { GraphicsDeviceManager graphics; SpriteBatch spriteBatch; GraphicsDevice device; Effect effect; VertexPositionColor[] vertices; public Game1() { graphics = new GraphicsDe...

there is an insteresting thing
 
This is valid in C, right? int a = 25 +- 5
 
no.
well I probably ought not to troll you
it's 25 + (-5)
 
user3010322
5:02 PM
@Marc-AntoineJacob It's not really interesting, moreso you just not understanding how the graphics stack works at all.
 
@Puppy Thanks. Why not? :)
 
people bitch at me
 
Feb 12 at 22:58, by Puppy
woof woof motherfucker
^ That's why
 
poor Puppy. always getting moaned at. never deserves it. always the victim. :weep:
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Do you know if ninja itself is available as a C or C++ library that can be embedded in stuff?
 
5:07 PM
it's a Python lib afaik
 
oh dear... gave the cat a good scratching, and now I'm harrier than a wookie :\
 
should I be super ballsy and try to cook double quantities in my new pan?
 
@ThePhD Yes I understand
but it's a complicate case
 
user3010322
No, there's nothing complicated about it.
 
user1804599
5:13 PM
What to make?
 
triangle should be drawned with a manner more simple if it's ONLY 2D
 
user3010322
Read the tutorials/book you already started reading. It explains it to you.
 
user1804599
I want to make software.
 
make a new meta build system
build files written in Lua compiling to Ninja
 
user3010322
@Marc-AntoineJacob Then use SpriteBatch and not regular 3D triangle drawing.
 
5:14 PM
yes
 
user3010322
@Puppy Isn't that what premake does?
 
but spritebatch does not have triangle
 
no.
 
user3010322
@Marc-AntoineJacob Guess you're fucked.
 
Write one to translate to CMake :P
 
5:14 PM
I want to make a triangle from 3 points
not from an image
 
user3010322
@Puppy I want to make a build system that's just a wrapper around ninja.
 
user3010322
Ninja already has support for VC++ and clang/gcc depfiles, so.
 
then how would it be used from VS?
 
user3010322
That covers pretty much all of my concerns ever.
 
oh really?
 
5:15 PM
CMake is nice, its generated makefiles have very colourful output.
 
user3010322
@Puppy You get 2 choices: one is a dragon-egg-like flag converter (like the cl.exe LLVM-VS ships or the one I wrote for VS (here)[bitbucket.org/ThePhD/visual-gcc/wiki/Home]), and the other is creating a full-fledged MS-Build tool that hooks into VS's MSBuild stuff (which suffers some problems because old knowledge like vs-tool becomes obsolete when VS changes how its entire build system works. Good changes, but it makes that tool dead).
 
user1804599
@Puppy No. Die.
 
I got my link off the starboard
it was to give context
 
@milleniumbug CMake is a pile of horrible crap.
The question/answer rate in their own IRC channel is 10:1, IIRC.
 
user1804599
5:20 PM
lol
 
Because not even the frickin' developers know what's going on sometimes.
 
...still better than SO :P
Also, they're the only ones that can generate all other project formats.
 
Hello
 
hello
 
user1804599
5:23 PM
> Biologists Confirm God Evolved From Chimpanzee Deity
 
Just found out that stackoverflow has this chat feature... this is amazing!
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@ThePhD Dont understand anything. Literrally anything.
I did know 3D and I don't WANT to do 3D
 
user3010322
Too bad.
 
a chat?
I think you've been living under a rock.
 
I want just to encapsulate all this 3D shit in a class and have no stress
 
5:25 PM
I have, I haven't used SO until recently much.
 
user3010322
Every graphics API understands 3D.
 
with all this complications of triangulations
 
@Puppy Nobody here is Patrick Star. Stop with that moronic saying.
 
I don't know who that is.
 
API ? Am I an API ?
 
5:25 PM
@Puppy WHAT!?
 
user1804599
@Puppy Andy Prowl.
 
You don't know who Patrick Star is!?
 
No, this is Patrick.
 
He is kidding. It can't be true
 
Have you been living under a rock, or what?
 
user3010322
5:26 PM
@Marc-AntoineJacob Either use GDI+ or sac up and learn how to do it yourself.
 
user3010322
(Hint: GDI+ is old and terrible and don't do it.)
 
help me please :(
 
He's a fucking Star, goddamit!
 
user3010322
Nope.
 
5:26 PM
there's only two hundred billion of those in our galaxy alone.
 
Can you give me a real answer with proper code please, if you are so good with this tutorial ? Thanks. –
 
lol
 
user3010322
I wrote my own GeometryBatch and what not on top of XNA. You're going to learn how to do it or flop trying. :D
 
@Puppy Patrick is the most important one
 
@Marc-AntoineJacob opengl.org/wiki/…
 
5:27 PM
the most important one is the one shining through my window now
and if it has a name other than "The Sun", it's Sol.
 
now I know you're lying
 
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Q: Draw a Triangle in 2D using XNA. Positions of the vertices is kind strange

Marc-Antoine JacobI have the following code: public class Game1 : Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game { GraphicsDeviceManager graphics; SpriteBatch spriteBatch; GraphicsDevice device; Effect effect; VertexPositionColor[] vertices; public Game1() { graphics = new GraphicsDe...

 
user3010322
:l
 
I am making C SHARP
and it's written 2D
 
you're making me see sharp
 
5:31 PM
I not a MatrixprojectionViewWorldVerticesVector33D adept
lol
 
user3010322
If you want to draw triangulated shapes to the screen, you need to get a basic grasp of those matrices.
 
user3010322
It's not hard.
 
yes I understand
but how to change positionning
 
user3010322
Or, you can just go find some ShapeDrawer that somebody wrong on top of XNA.
 
thats bug me
 
user3010322
5:33 PM
You change the position in relation to the screen by getting a proper Projection matrix.
 
@Marc-AntoineJacob by using a matrix.
 
I always thinked that Vector2 takes x, y and that Vector3 takes x, y and z
what Matrix?
 
user3010322
The one you make to fit your screen.
 
user3010322
There's even a Matrix.CreateProjection method in XNA.
 
ok and how to do that
 
5:34 PM
maybe look up Matrix.CreateProjection
 
everyone else plonked that dude.
 
ok Matrix.Create projection is dumb
 
user1804599
I certainly did.
 
@rightfold You plonked me too :/
 
5:38 PM
@khajvah maybe you deserved it
 
herro
 
@Borgleader maybe, who knows? I choose not to care much.
 
well you care enough to comment on it
 
@rightfold why are you not greek today
 
That is only slightly more than not caring at all.
 
5:55 PM
@melak47 hey it's you
 
:p
 
Ven
oh, @rightfold is @rightfold again
 
user1804599
Yes!
 
Aaaa my wall exploded
 

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