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2:00 PM
lol, Notepad++ shows some extraneous nulls in my 'text' file. Seems like I have more debugging to do:(
 
> Od tego czasu, LastPass has grown by leaps and bounds
wait what
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl It's however you want to implement type-erasure, really.
 
> A lot of people try to contact me, and I generally don’t want to be contacted any more, so I don’t give out my details. You can try tweeting me at @notch, but I can’t guarantee a reply. I probably don’t want to do an interview with you, fund your project, speak at your event, or listen to your ideas for Minecraft. Feel free to send me funny jokes, game recommendations, compliments, and pictures of cats, however!
Ahahah, poor notch. Humans are such leeches.
 
Xeo
Either through a vtable, or other magics
 
yeah, but if you have to support value semantics, the erased object needs to be allocated dynamically
or use some SBO technique
 
Xeo
2:01 PM
sure
see std::function
 
yeah
 
Xeo
see boost::any
 
You guys still on about that? :P Love the OCD of the Lounge :D
 
Xeo
boost::any is a virtual concept with no interface except querying
 
sounds like the recursive_wrapper thing of "holding pointer but exposing value", if I understood it correctly
 
user1804599
2:01 PM
What's wrong with LogMeIn?
 
user1804599
Hamachi works great.
 
@Xeo and copyability
 
@elyse Yeah, Hamachi is cool.
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl Righty, I guess
 
yesterday I added a few pages to the old proposal but man this shit is complicated
 
2:03 PM
@ElimGarak vOv get rich and find out how much people like rich people
 
@ElimGarak What's the OCD?
 
@AndyProwl Not letting the topic go until it dries up completely. :P
 
ah... but what does the acronym mean?
 
Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental disorder where people feel the need to check things repeatedly, have certain thoughts repeatedly, or feel they need to perform certain routines repeatedly. People are unable to control either the thoughts or the activities. Common activities include hand washing, counting of things, and checking to see if a door is locked. Some may have difficulty throwing things out. These activities occur to such a degree that the person's daily life is negatively affected. Often they take up more than an hour a day. Most adults realize that the behaviors do not...
 
oh lol
 
2:07 PM
:D
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl en destructability
 
@ElimGarak that's not OCD
 
right
 
it's IOCD
 
Ell
@ElimGarak nah, that's being rigorous
OCD is needless pedantry
I hate needless pedantry :P
 
2:10 PM
I've just noticed Puppy's been MIA for a while now.
 
@Ell no, it's not.
 
Ell
@thecoshman not entirely
actually OCD is perfectionism
idk man
leave me alone
 
@Ell no, it's not.
 
SJD
hello guys. I recently noticed something interesting: same code (glew setup) =>

Windows => max GLSL version 3.5
MAC OS => max GLSL version 1.2 .. shall I wonder?
 
SJD
2:17 PM
Hm.. it comes with OS together (and I have Yosemite) :D - which is 4.0 i guess
 
user1804599
Install Gentoo.
 
like that'll help anyone
 
@SJD OS X OGL support tops out at 4.1 and should give you GLSL 4.1, 4.10 or 410 if you ask for a proper core profile. And if you have the proper hardware and proper driver support on OS X for said hardware (is it a Hackintosh?).
 
Jun 8 '11 at 1:32, by Martinho Fernandes
Arghh, another day wasted failing to install Gentoo. I was expecting the remaining steps to be easy. I should probably give up now and try another distro, but I think I'm too stubborn for that.
woah
even Robor found it hard
 
> 1> fatal error LNK1000: Internal error during IMAGE::Pass2
1>
1> Version 14.00.23026.0
1>
1> ExceptionCode = C0000005
1> ExceptionFlags = 00000000
1> ExceptionAddress = 00007FF7424CC579 (00007FF7424C0000) "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC\bin\amd64_x86\link.exe"
1> NumberParameters = 00000002
1> ExceptionInformation[ 0] = 0000000000000000
1> ExceptionInformation[ 1] = 0000000200CFAAA8
1>
1> CONTEXT:
1> Rax = 0000000000000001 R8 = 0000000000000000
I broke... a thing
 
2:22 PM
oh wow
 
SJD
@ElimGarak nope it isn't.
 
Which one is it, then? Model.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes well done
have a cookie
 
why are all free CI systems so fucking shit
 
2:25 PM
because they are free
 
user1804599
Days since last US school shooting: 0.
 
Rly? Link.
 
@ElimGarak In Arizona, 1 fatality, shooter arrested, few wounded
need know more?
 
That guy is gonna get rekt at the police station. I'd like to offer my stomping services as well.
 
2:27 PM
Probably get life without parole when he gets convicted
 
I'd put him on death row and have him walk the plank at random time intervals and always call it off at the last second.
 
Jenkins is a PITA to set up
 
DOCKER SUCKS BTW
 
and cruisecontrol is so terribly bad
i need a linux vm
 
Sysadmining is turning me into Cat.
 
2:29 PM
i totally get you
 
Well, cruise control usually works best at the optimal altitude for a particular plane.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Really? IME there's none simpler.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Both Travis and Circle are light years ahead in usability
and for commercial stuff, TeamCity is much much better as well
 
Travis and Circle can't do shit.
 
right.
Neither can misconfigured jenkins FYI
 
2:35 PM
Also, isn't Travis paid?
 
user1804599
It's free for FOSS.
 
> Our software engineers work on groundbreaking projects with the freedom to create/innovate and develop ideas on scale, impacting millions (if not billions) of people, which is pretty cool :)
Gosh.
 
user1804599
TeamCity master race.
 
I'm so hungry
 
Guess for which company that recruiter works.
 
2:38 PM
MS?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ubishit?
fucking ubishit
little shits
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes GitHub
 
(if it's google I'll agree with what they say google things are pretty cool)
 
also why does "groundbreaking" have a positive connotation? I wouldn't like the ground to break
 
@AndyProwl Revolutionary, etc.
It's a thing to attract hipsters.
 
2:40 PM
yeah, got it, it was just a silly half-joke
 
googling that text doesn't lead anywhere
what company is it?
 
It's Google.
Ridiculous.
At least the previous times they managed to not sound like the usual recruiter idiocy.
 
but it's not that untrue
 
user1804599
GoogHub
 
well I don't know about freedom to create/innovate, can't tell
 
2:43 PM
Which was Google's last groundbreaking project?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like the size of google things
 
user1804599
Google Search
 
I dunno, but there are many cool projects potentially impacting millions
self-driving cars to mention one
 
user1804599
Google Wave
 
youtube
and the search engine
 
2:43 PM
@elyse lol
Killed.
@AlexM. Bought off.
 
user1804599
Google Bukkake
 
There's a reason it's not called Google Video.
(lol, Google Video is dead)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep but it's still affecting millions
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sawzall.
 
google does that interesting AI thing with dreams
it's pretty cool
 
2:45 PM
@AlexM. But it's not one of Google's groundbreaking projects. When it was groundbreaking, it was someone else's.
 
I agree the groundbreaking part is lame
 
I like google cards lol
oh and the goggles thing
 
All neverending betas.
Well, at some point they'll be out of beta: dead.
 
dunno, I use them and I'm satisfied with them
 
AFAICS GMail was their last successful product to graduate out of beta.
 
2:46 PM
google map is life saving
not recent but still
oh and CLANG lol
 
Google Maps was about bought off. (Before it had an established brand, hence Google's branding unlike YouTube)
 
but they did add lots of stuff
 
user1804599
Google Glass
 
this said it's probably true that working on their code wouldn't be fun
Sean's story is what still keeps me from accepting Google offers
together with their coding guidelines
well maybe I wouldn't even pass the interview cause I suck at algorithms and stuff but let's not consider that
@elyse Google ass
 
R#'s full cleanup removes comments that disable R# warnings
software.txt
 
2:51 PM
Apparently, there are almot no German comments left in LibreOffice source.
 
@AndyProwl Even their own original projects have horrible code (see V8)
Yeah, Chrome is the latest, not GMail.
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl ok, and now?
 
now we're stuck
 
user1804599
@Morwenn there's still French ones in OCaml's.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Glass
ah repost
but i agree that google sucks
 
2:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz We'll see the impact of that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Inbox
 
@AndyProwl Move fast break everything
 
Guess what it is
 
@Mr.kbok a dildo?
glue stick for a glue gun?
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok fibreglass
 
3:08 PM
@Mr.kbok scissors :D
 
Yeah :D
Occasional tinkerer @TonyTheLion?
 
@Mr.kbok glue
 
It's pretty clear (pun intended) when you open the image; opposed to the tiny onebox thumbnail
 
in the cloud, no one can hear you scream
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not sure--there were a couple of others around the same time frame (early 1970's) but I'm not sure which was really first.
 
3:20 PM
@Mr.kbok Not really, I have just used a glue gun once or twice for something or other I can't remember.
 
user1804599
guns are foribdden
 
glue guns and staple guns are allowed
 
user1804599
If you say that again then I'm going to staple your lip to the floor.
 
I think you need go outside more
 
Sorry, missed context
 
user1804599
3:23 PM
Why?
 
user1804599
Outside is a dangerous place.
 
its good for you
@Columbo I thought what you said was rather befitting
 
user1804599
fapfapfap wankwankwank
 
user1804599
SpongeBob! <3
 
user1804599
3:26 PM
I'm going to watch more SpongeBob this weekend! Inside!
 
@elyse Have a star, I love him too
 
I've never watched SpongeBob
 
@TonyTheLion YOU HAVEN'T LIVED
 
@TonyTheLion You haven't missed a thing.
 
Well those are two very different opinions. What do??!
 
3:28 PM
@elyse Is this what dutch people sound like?
 
@JerryCoffin well said
 
amazing
jenkins on ubuntu got stuck on git clone
what a piece of crap
 
@TonyTheLion Seriously, if you're under six years of age, you'll probably fine it hilarious. For any adult who isn't already thoroughly indoctrinated accustomed to its particular brand of stupidity, it'll seem...well...utterly and inanely stupid, to the point that you'll probably wonder whether anybody in its audience has a brain at all.
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks for the advice. I shall refrain from watching it.
 
> Instruct gnu make to use only static libraries
cri moar
 
3:31 PM
> There is a project written in c/c++ that I want to compile and deploy to an Android device.
lolwut
 
> >tfw you're OP and you're not sure about your sexual orientation
 
@JerryCoffin That's the wrongest statement I've heard in a while. I know quite a lot of people who find Spongebob hilarious and are well over the age of six.
 
@Columbo "For any adult who isn't already thoroughly indoctrinated accustomed"
 
I remember watching spongebob as a kid.
 
I want to eat some chicken
 
3:34 PM
(That said, some of the newer episodes are indeed utter crap, but we're surely talking about ones were Hillenburg was producing')
 
need to find a place for that
 
KFC
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No idea what exactly that means. There's people that understand humor and people that don't. The former ones, in my experience, find Spongebob funny. Even my dad does, and he's fifty and surely "accustomed".
 
@Morwenn uh no
not fast food
my stomach is already fucked up enough
 
Kentucky Fried Cocks
 
3:36 PM
@Columbo It means your statement that a lot of people over six find Spongebob hilarious doesn't refute his.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Jerry's satire has always been too high for me.
Also, I should scale down my fanboy-ism for Spongebob
 
im going to visit the nearby restaurant
they should have plain chicken there
 
@Cthulhu that's an unreasonable standpoint. I copied it from the OP and there's no possible conflict (only standard library used) and it's local to a single TU. If you must warn the OP, do so by linking to the relevant discussion instead of making it false criticism out of dogmatic motives. And post it to the OP, not any particular answer. Thank you — sehe 2 mins ago
Dang hobby horses
 
@elyse Fuck pure type checking, I have a var type: Type in my expression base class and everything works fine :-D (Do you still have the Martin Odersky shot where he hides behind the podium because he has written a var?)
 
Let the traditional British end-of-week conversation commence: "Up to much this weekend?" "No, not really"
 
3:54 PM
Up to much? Yes - trying to make sense of ' if((cpConductor.Tag and $7)>0) then cpConductor.Tag := cpConductor.Tag and $FFF8;' and 'case ((Byte(msgStr[1]) shr 5) and $7) of' before Monday.

Oh joy:(
 
@sehe "there's no possible conflict (only standard library used)" is not quite correct.
 
@MartinJames :(
 
@MartinJames $7 is the complement of $FFF8
 
@fredoverflow Don't ask me - I'm just the moro... guy who inherited the stuff.
 
@MartinJames What language is that?
 
3:55 PM
The code says "If the lower 3 bits aren't zero, set them to zero" :-D
 
@TonyTheLion Pascal/Delphi
 
You can get rid of the check and just write the body.
 
oh wow
fun :P
 
@TonyTheLion The language is not that bad if writtten in a sane manner, but...
 
hahaha
asking a lot there
 
3:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes In this TU, there isn't
 
@TonyTheLion Much fewer magic numbers would be good.
 
@sehe ... until you recompile it, you mean.
 
@MartinJames Wait a minute... Pascal/Delphi? What is that supposed to be, the retarded brother of C/C++?
 
@sehe Ah nevermind. There is only a main.
 
@fredoverflow It's more like Java but without the humungous runtime. GC and all the other gunge.
 
3:59 PM
But seriously, as soon as you add one other function, it's (liable to be) broken.
 
Xeo
siiiiiiiigh
time to go home
 
@Xeo I am home. Home is where the horror is. Time to go out!
 
Xeo
the horror is at work
Unreal Engine and Mac shudder
 
oh my
 
Xeo
so much brokenness with video replay
 
4:00 PM
I thought I had it bad
 
Xeo
so much brokenness everywhere
siiiiiigh
welp, laters
 
@Xeo Mmm..mm..mac?
 
user3790646
What's happened to you, @MartinJames?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if you use names that are in the standard library, no doubt?
I'll fix the answer.
 
@sehe No.
"The names in the standard library" is not a closed set.
 
4:14 PM
oh now really cppcon, you think you could maybe spread these out a bit, fucking flooded with vids to watch! bastards.
2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Is the behavior of display device is unspecified if the active position is at the initial position of a line when \b is used?
 
Why the fuck are you pinging me?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: oh it's mistake. Pardon me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... because... you have a display?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought this was the whole deal with reserved identifiers used throughout
 
4:17 PM
@thecoshman I like how dconf only releases 3 videos per week.
 
@sehe Er, the names of things in std are not reserved.
They avoid conflicts by virtue of being in namespace std. If you take them out, you open yourself to them.
 
> [...) proven bug-free by the millions of lines of other peoples’ programs that already use them!
Haha, I like the « proven » part.
 
@Cthulhu and others: I've incorporated some style improvements anyways, now that this answer took off so much. Thanks :) — sehe 5 secs ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which is why I thought the stdlib implementations were littered with __names like that.
 
Consider existing code with a to_string function, for example.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: It would be better if you answer it.
 
4:19 PM
@sehe The names of public things in std don't have __.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My point exactly. That's a name that is in the specs
 
@sehe wasn't
@PravasiMeet No, it won't. Get out.
 
Yeah. Ok. That way.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: you get out
 
Someone in the Asylum was complaining about some new feature breaking all their code.
 
4:21 PM
That's a bit of a stretch IMO, but ok. You're technically right. I'll remember this one.
Truth is important. Sometimes
 
@sehe What, 30+ votes already? That was fast o_o
 
Fun fact: The inventor of Godwin's Law is on Twitter. He's an EFF lawyer. Yes, really. @sfmnemonic
 
Guys,
What is the return type of the function which is return a bitset
 
the rainy weather is lovely
woot, steam can now create start menu shortcuts
 
4:32 PM
@AlexM. lol
 
user1804599
hi
 
user1804599
@underscore You can't return a bitset, only a bitset<N> for some size_t N.
 
can i push_back to an array then return it from a function ?
 
4269
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

read a book
 
Book a book. Then read it.
 
4:36 PM
and you should also read the rules I linked above
its friday, yay!!!
 
Lisa is such a fucked up game
 
> email from service I used 1000 years ago
> Sadly, this means that we’ll be expiring Playfire credit from the 30th October, so it’s crucial that you transfer any remaining Playfire credit into useable Green Man Gaming credit ahead of this date.
Your account details:
Credit Balance: £0.10
O YEA
GOTTA SAVE THOSE 0.1
 
The Martian was nice! Also the girl is a computer scientist and programs in Lisp lol
 
makes sense
 
I think I'll go see the martian
 
4:46 PM
@GregorMcGregor hahaha
 
but you know what I'm definitely going to see
spectre
that one will be awesome
 
when is Spectre coming out?
 
when he's comfortable with making his orientation public
 
@TonyTheLion beginning of next mo here
I think 4th or so
 
user1804599
4:52 PM
There's an LGBT flag in front of the town hall.
 
@fredoverflow it just makes more sense to space them out like that
 
@elyse Writing compilers is a lot of fun. I think I understand now why you basically don't do anything else ;)
 
user1804599
It's the only thing I can think of that involves neither UI development nor linear algebra.
 
Well, I have to do some UI for my IDE. It sucks, but I can live with it.
 
i install openssl md5 but still compiler tell it's not exist
why?
 
4:54 PM
go away
final warning
 
why?
 
because no one cares about your questions
 
why this room is for ?
 
you should read the rules
23 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
 
you should change the rules
 
4:55 PM
no
 
@underscore Using English
@underscore You do it
 
@underscore Nobody is going to be able to figure out a solution to your problem with such a vague description.
 
@fredoverflow That's what you say but I'm sure you had fun making those curvy arrows :p
 
If you don't put any effort into asking a question, why should we put any effort into an answer?
 
Also ask your questions on Stack Overflow
 
user1804599
4:57 PM
s/Also/Instead/
 
@Morwenn Oh sure, trigonometry is fun :)
see history for boring code
 
> private fun
what'cha doing back there
 
@fredoverflow Make real points, pairs of x and y variables are not cool :(
 
@Morwenn I would if objects were free, which they are not in Java.
@AnalPhabet You can also have protected fun ;)
 
underscore is the most annoying noob we've had in a long time
 

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