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Ell
5:00 PM
I think you should make it GC.new<Object>()
 
user1804599
lolnowtf
 
user1804599
(This isn't C++.)
 
@rightføld Er, what?
 
user1804599
Also I need to figure out how to use JS keywords as LasagnaScript identifiers, since the keyword sets aren't the same.
 
user1804599
I could use UUIDs for such variables and ["…"] for such members.
 
5:01 PM
You can't depend on code that isn't guaranteed to run.
 
user1804599
No code is guaranteed to run.
 
IT'S GONE
I THINK IT'S GONE
No.
:(
 
what
I think I know what you mean
 
My tinnitus.
 
but I don't want to remind you of it if I'm wr-
ok
 
5:05 PM
Either I'm getting used to it or it isn't as loud today.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you have your ear checked?
 
user1804599
I don't like new as a keyword.
 
fabricate
 
user1804599
5:06 PM
lol
 
Ell
just make it a method of GC
 
or meltdown
to destroy
 
user1804599
@Ell lol no
 
@AndyProwl Yes.
 
5:06 PM
What did the doctor say?
 
user1804599
instantiate
 
He doesn't know. He couldn't hear him.
 
lol
(serious again)
 
There's no sign of infection, and it can't be heard externally. He took a blood sample.
I'll know more when I get my blood back on Monday.
 
user1804599
How about creat.
 
5:08 PM
good luck with that
how long is it lasting?
 
Since Sunday.
 
Ell
how about construct
 
user1804599
Too long.
 
user1804599
I'll just go with mk.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: No sedatives or such to maybe make it more bearable?
 
Ell
5:08 PM
ct
 
user1804599
a
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did something particular trigger it? (loud music or stuff)
@rightføld a looks fine
 
Ell
Object.ctor()
 
make
 
couldn't get more intent-revealing
 
user1804599
5:09 PM
Eiffel uses make and has named ctors.
 
@VáclavZeman There's no useful medication. Even then, if given sedatives, I probably wouldn't take them.
@AndyProwl Nah.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Chemical induced sleep then? :)
 
user1804599
Circumfix operators suck.
 
5
A: Program terminates in initialization of large array

Joseph MansfieldIt is very likely a stack overflow. You are allocating V vector<int>s. While the elements of those vectors will be allocated on the heap, the vectors themselves (which contain a pointer and a few other objects) are being allocated on the stack. If you have V of these, you will likely hit your st...

Pedantry poll.
 
Xeo
Is the "step into specific" shortcut for C# different from C++ in VS?
alt+shift+F11 doesn't seem to do anything
 
5:14 PM
In "If you have V of these (...)", should the V be in monospace?
It feels wrong, because you're not referring to a code entity, but to a number.
 
Ell
@rightføld circumfix?
 
@Ell A Jewish ritual. I'm not explaining why the operators suck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes perhaps N in normal font
 
Ell
   _
  / \
 | o |
  \_/
this calls operator/ on o
 
he does have a V code entity, so if he uses the letter "V" I'd expect it to refer to the code entity and be in monospace.
if he wants to refer to any number then regular font + different letter
 
5:17 PM
@Ell :D That's Eelis' work?
 
@AndyProwl Yes, but he's referring to the value associated with that entity, not the entity.
 
user1804599
noooooo ambiguous grammar
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, if I have code like for (auto i = 0; i < V; ++i) I think it's fine to say that the for loop does V iterations, even though I'm referring to the value of V (monospaced) and not to the object V
 
I feel the same regarding "ints" versus "objects of type int".
 
ints?
 
5:20 PM
Yeah, I don't like it.
 
so with reference to my example, would you write "the loop iterates V times"?
 
There is no visual hint to the fact that V is the value of some object in the code though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah
don't even get me started on "structs"
 
"the loop iterates a number of times equal to the value of V"
don't know
 
5:24 PM
Oh, top answer's last sentence can showcase my thoughts better.
 
in real terms it's an appropriate colloquialism that I can accept
 
I'd prefer "The above results in a vector called array that is populated with V default initialized vector<int> objects."
 
I agree on "vector<int> objects" being better than "vector<int>s", but I would keep the monospaced V
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought you didn't like using V as its value
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he didn't like it being monospaced
 
5:26 PM
well that's silly
 
because it is the value of an entity in code rather than an entity in code
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not sure about that. But I certainly don't like if it's kept monospaced to refer to the value.
 
you'd make a terrible Indian
 
little Indian/big Indian
3
 
5:28 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Can't tell if compliment or insult.
I can spin it either way, depending on the intended meaning of "terrible".
 
Xeo
whoo, finally reached a point where I can stop and continue on Monday without being utterly confused
 
These new office chairs are great.
 
hm, so if I understand it correctly the "set of potential results" of an expression is not the set of potential results of that expression
 
5:30 PM
What?
 
well, unless I'm reading the Standard terribly wrong, the set of potential results of x.y is x
(3.2/2, ODR rule)
 
didn't you fret about this yesterday
tbh I didn't get it then, either
 
more or less I did, but I was mostly confused
 
god that paragraph is awful
it's like someone forgot the meaning of the enter key
 
now I think I'm not confused, I just think they chose terrible names
 
5:32 PM
I can't see what you're saying. Please quote verbatim
 
I need a new master password.
 
hunter2
there you go
 
> If e is a class member access expression (5.2.5), the set contains the potential results of the object expression.
 
to you that's your master password. to everyone else it just looks like "hunter2" so you're safe
 
> If e is an id-expression (5.1.1), the set contains only e
so the set of "potential results" of x.y is x
which is slightly confusing
 
5:33 PM
x.y is not an id-expression, is it?
 
no, it's a class member access expression
 
that sentence says nothing of the sort
 
the combination of the two sentences I quoted does
 
the point being, that "potential result" does not really mean potential result
 
5:36 PM
missed the first one sorry
which standard is this?
 
C++14
draft N4296
 
today I was pleasantly surprised with z shell
 
> The "set of potential results" of e essentially means the set of id-expressions that are not odr-used if an lvalue-to-rvalue conversion is applied to e
 
Argh. Everyone left all the lights in the office on.
 
typed "make <TAB>" and it gave me a list of targets
 
5:40 PM
why the hell did they call it "potential results". OK, done with ranting
 
wish I cared
don't really
 
I tend to care when I don't understand something
I care very much about C++
 
I would usually be with you here, as you know
but meh
odr-use
 
yeah, it was a (bad) half joke
 
:)
I got it
it was good
would have been funnier coming from someone like Bartek or Puppy though
because you do understand C++
no offence
 
5:44 PM
facepalm
 
lol
I don't and I'm very offended
oh @Scarlet long time no seen
how's life?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They're so different, yet so similar. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
 
busy (shockingly enough) :)
 
@AndyProwl but good busy; not bad busy - having the time of my life one could say :)
 
5:46 PM
I think that theory stems from people miscategorising political views as being points on a one-dimensional scale
but yeah
 
@ScarletAmaranth that's how it ought to be, glad to hear that
 
@AndyProwl what have you been up to as of late?
 
@thecoshman my life
 
@ScarletAmaranth lots of work
went to Meeting C++
some health issues
nothing superfancy
 
Xeo
yay, home \o/
finally
 
Ell
5:50 PM
you know maybe @Puppy is right about generating documentation structure
 
he is not don't say that
 
Ell
I think generated documentation can only work for API references
 
@Xeo I'm about to leave; the last one out of the circus has to lock up everything.
 
Ell
but other kinds of docs it just doesn't make sense
and I'm not sure how the output of generated docs can be flexible
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes the last one here has to make sure windows are closed and turn off the light
 
5:53 PM
@Ell you want markup extensions to easily refer to entities.
 
the last one here has to lock everything. I don't have keys. I'm the last one.
 
At the very least.
 
Ell
Yeah
 
Guess I'm gonna stay till Monday
 
Ell
Hmm
 
Xeo
5:54 PM
@AndyProwl aww
 
ahhhh fucking cunt didn't even look at the scoreboard before booting me
i had 9x the points of anyone else
i was on fire
 
look at the comments
 
then the idiot decides standing in the way of my tank fire is grounds for dismissal
his loss
 
that must have hurted, wow, "a complete failure"
 
Heads up: Metroid Prime run starting soon on AGDQ.
 
5:59 PM
or is it prohibited to ask for upvoting?
if it's, sorry
now another mad guy, prolly lightness, downvoted it too lol
 
I didn't downvote you but stop being a dick
 
Damn kids, they are everywhere
 
@Andrew Because he's mad or because you stole code?
 
I posted the source
where it came from
 
wait, you're not the OP
so you're not being a dick
but you are stealing
 
6:02 PM
I didn't downvote either, but you just did copy-paste. The source is mentioned at the end and there's no link to it
 
actually I'm not convinced you're not the OP. is he a sockpuppet? your language is very similar
 
I'll add the link then
I'm brazilian
maybe that's why you're confusing my speaking?
 
Also, move the quote to the beginning of the answer
 
I'm not the "OP"
okay
 
so all brazilians go around calling people "mad" at this time of day?
racist now as well
 
6:03 PM
Something like "quoting from the article bla bla:"
 
Hmm...
 
@EtiennedeMartel agdq is up?
 
@bamboon It's been for a week now
 
@EtiennedeMartel ahhhh
Something on yt already?
 
can't stop laughing now
 
6:05 PM
@Andrew WOOF!
 
WOOF!
to you too
:d
 
...
 
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
cmon i need moar starz
 
Have one. :3
 
6:06 PM
mod deleted his answer
I feel a bit bad for him now
"a mad bitch"
 
Instead of that, why not post *better* code? For example, it has a couple of rather pointless loops:
while (endlCount > 0) {
out << endl;
--endlCount;
column = 0;
}
while (spaceCount > 0) {
out << ' ';
--spaceCount;
++column;
}
...that would probably be better off as something like `out << std::string(spaceCount, ' '); column += spaceCount; spaceCount = 0;`
 
yeah feel bad for me
 
see ya
2 hours ban incoming
 
LOL
 
funny isn't it
 
6:07 PM
:|
 
haha
 
ahhh
 
20 flags. Impressive.
 
glad you enjoy it!
@MartinJames that's not bad even for this place
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah - bumped 2 as I was typing.
 
6:08 PM
:20876230 /cc @AndrewBarber
 
gone
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 59 minutes.
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 1 hour 29 minutes.
That'll do I suppose
 
@JerryCoffin That kind of thing is better done with setfill etc.
 
6:08 PM
@rlemon good grief
now that's a bit harsh
 
AFAIK.
 
@VáclavZeman Certainly a possibility as well. I tend to avoid it because the fill character is "sticky", so you have to reset it after using it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he was sock puppeting stackoverflow.com/users/4421937/andrey-erick
 
I'm still trying to understand what went through that kid's head.
 
@Jefffrey What a surprise.
 
6:09 PM
@Jefffrey I can't tell who that is
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the op
 
because the account was deleted
hahaha
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Read the URL.
 
7 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
actually I'm not convinced you're not the OP. is he a sockpuppet? your language is very similar
sweet
/me waves at lurking Andrew
 
6:10 PM
yes thank you Jefffrey
 
np lighty
 
that's what we've been talking about for the past ten minutes
but i'm glad you've informed me
 
i know
 
@Jefffrey closed by 6 people? Never seen that before
 
6:11 PM
I was the invisible downvoter at the beginning
 
@AndyProwl learn to count bro
 
lol
 
@Andrew Deal with it.
 
I must be very tired
or very unable to count
 
@milleniumbug got lag?
 
6:11 PM
lol
 
@AndyProwl the line wrap threw me off when you said that. I went to check and had to double take
 
look mit Augen
 
@rlemon yeah that's probably what tricked me too
> Today I have been writing some simple assignment for students and [...]
^ from Vlad
I hope it doesn't mean he has students
 
he is unemployed remember?
 
@AndyProwl Minions.
 
6:15 PM
which makes it actually scarier
 
lol exactly
 
Vlad the Instructor.
 
@Jefffrey ah, right
I forgot he is Unemployed.
 
Just a typo for Unemployable
 
> News: The defect of the C++ STL relative to class std::basic_string was rectified as I proposed. See Defect of the C++ Standard relative to std::basic_string
you can even click on the link and enjoy reading Russian
 
6:18 PM
Vlad from Moscow University
 
user1804599
Vlad from Stalingrad
 
Stalingrad from Moscow
 
X from Y (finding a funny (X, Y) combination is left as an exercise to the reader)
 
select Vlad from Moscow
9
 
6:22 PM
where not Employed
 
query optimiser removes your redundant where statement
 
'where Employed' gives a smaller result set - quicker.
 
@AndyProwl don't know why but this has tones of pokemon...
 
lol, Pokemon Vlad
 
Ell
Mmm yes please
 
6:34 PM
@Ell OK, I'll go check the fridge.
 
int gcd(int a, int b) {
    int result;

    std::cout << "Hey man, what's the gcd of " << a << " and " << b << "? ";

    std::cin >> result;
    return result;
}
Asking the user for help and expecting him to google shit is another solution!
 
@Ell No cider, but I have cans of Directors. I suppose I'll have to make do :)
 
user1804599
infinity
 
Ell
I've never had Directors before
 
@Ell If you see any, you should not go out of your way to avoid it:)
 
6:43 PM
@Mgetz A wild Vlad Appeared. AndyProwl uses SimpleFacts. It has no effect.
 
avoid the cans tho
unless you want to end up a lout like MJ
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :|
 
1
Q: Why can dereferenced pointers with postfix operators be expressed with parenthesis and still get the previous dereferenced value?

johnnyI do not understand the order of precedence here. Given: *(p++) Here is what I thought would happen: (p++) then *p Why isn't the address of p incremented first, then dereferenced, since the postfix is in the parenthesis? *(p++) Why isn't the address incremented and then dereferenced ...

-.-
 
user1804599
lol
 
@JerryCoffin LRIO used logic, IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
 
6:46 PM
shhh don't mention the war
 
@Mgetz My point was that with Vlad nothing seems to be effective at all.
 
ah
 
Ell
cheese is a kind of meat, a tasty yellow beef
 
user1804599
wat
 
'A loory overturned in high winds on the M74 near Kirkmuirhill, South Lanarkshire.' : Grauniad.
 
6:55 PM
RIP loory
 
Mebbe it was an Andrex truck.
 
mebbe
wait, what?
ah
 
@AndyProwl D'oh that one was good!
 
ION, Abu Hamza's going away
> During the sentencing, his lawyers asked the judge to take into account his missing hands and eye.
giggle
> They also argued a plan to imprison Abu Hamza in Colorado's Supermax federal prison would violate assurances the US made to judges in London to secure his 2012 extradition. Prosecutors argued on Friday that the government never made such a promise to the UK and life in prison was the only appropriate sentence.
...
#yanks
 

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