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1:00 PM
Mass.
 
I don't know what MJ autopilot just did, but it just destroyed my ship.
 
now I need to do that whole thing again cause I didn't quicksave after righting the ship
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes shh with your good points
 
I can imagine a kerbal going "I didn't touch anything! It was the autopilot!"
 
1:01 PM
oh, apparently there is a mod out there that will let you recover dropped booster stages
normally they vanish if they go too far away from your focus ship and they would need a command part, but this mod solves that
 
@thecoshman The whole "You can't recover stages" thing really annoyed me.
 
@Puppy get that mod then :P
 
wtf is the point in permitting recovery of parts when you can never recover 90%+ of your investment.
 
well, it's motivation to master SSTO
 
How much is an empty tank worth compared to full?
 
1:03 PM
@thecoshman Yeah, but SSTOs can't really get anywhere except O.
hmm
let's see how well this "Launch to rendezvous" thing works.
oh whoops forgot to turn on autopilot lols
 
@Puppy well, you would need to make an SSTO that is powerful enough to get some good payloads into orbit, and construct your ships there.
 
user3010322
@Rapptz I HAVE DONE IT! I HAVE DEFEATED THE LUA!
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
TREMBLE BEFORE MY MEMBER FUNCTIONS AND VARIABLES FROM LUA!!!
 
user3010322
/cc @Xeo
 
1:06 PM
meh
hmm
I reloaded my persistent save... 0 funds.
 
lol
you should learn to play without rolling back all the time it seems :P
 
meh.
boy I really shoulda packed a bigger engine.
launching with only 1m/s acceleration over gravity is a bitch.
 
how much tech tree you got so far?
 
most
 
is it that different?
 
1:12 PM
no
 
user1804599
Nice blob of unformatted code. Try again. — rightfold 21 secs ago
 
Hi, does somebody know what's wrong with my question, the last one I asked about Nginx? I want to fix it if possible.
 
not sure why you're asking here
and you've accepted an answer
oh, what's wrong with the question itself you mean
you didn't present a testcase. makes it difficult to piece together the context of your problem.
 
Because it's about Nginx source code which is C
 
C is not C++
C++ is not C
anyway, it's not that bad a question. I wouldn't have downvoted, but you should definitely present a testcase in the future. You could have abstracted away Nginx entirely and just written a three line program with that broken comparison and asked about that.
 
1:18 PM
Lightness - I am sorry for that and will fix asap, but I'm writing from my phone which has a strict limit of characters I can write.
 
user1804599
@HakanBoztepe Why did you ask in the C++ room instead of the C# room then?
 
usually this is the first step in a debugging process, way before you ask online
writing from your phone is irrelevant; if you cannot form a proper question on your phone, don't post it until you get home and can write from your PC.
 
user1804599
The Levenshtein distance between C and C# is smaller than the one between C and C++, so C and C# are more similar.
 
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Q: c++ size of array is changing using sizeof

user63898i have simple main that called simple methods with array as parameter the size in the array is right , but then when i try to print the array im getting different sizeof array : int bubbleSort(int arr[]) // yeah i know this sort is not complete { int arrSize = sizeof(arr); // HERE IS SIZ...

Can anyone guess from the title
 
Oh, yeah, and your initial formatting was utterly abysmal. There's no excuse for that. That's why you got downvotes.
 
user1804599
1:20 PM
@chris My guess is that OP is a massive faggot once again.
 
Lightness - Thank you, I'll wait before asking a question from my phone next time to ask a better question!
 
Your logic: "can't format properly ---> post anyway"
Reasonable logic: "can't format properly ---> wait until you can"
hth!
 
user1804599
 
@rightfold Thank you. Going to look in the right room.
 
user1804599
1:22 PM
oh dear
 
user1804599
Being able to distinguish sarcasm from seriousness is the first skill you have to acquire when visiting chat rooms.
 
Oh, I'm without internet for a time and was lazy going to the other part of the city where wifi is available :-)
@rightfold Yes you're right haha. I'm not in the best of my times and very nervous because of a deadline so may have not catched it ;-)
 
1:44 PM
your deadlines not our problem
 
So, anyone here been in Brussels and can tell me what does one do there?
 
I visited the historical center I think. I was a wee lad.
 
300dv to widen my orbit, 300dv to fix inclination
 
Spekuloos and flammkueche?
 
it wouldn't work out cheaper if I wanted my original smaller orbit.
AH SHIT
I made a big mistake and staged a full rocket as well as an empty one.
then I pushed quickSAVE instead of quickLOAD.
 
1:47 PM
Oh and chocolate.
 
:(
 
You staged chocolate?
 
good thing you can manually load the persistent save now.
 
I don’t know why all I can remember from my time in Brussels is food. It’s either that or the Atomium, and that was boring.
 
I "fixed" it by staging both my full rockets instead of both my empty ones.
 
1:50 PM
The old city looks gorgeous though.
@R.MartinhoFernandes No I visited it.
 
I've reduced my choices for this week to: 1) be a tourist here in Berlin or 2) go to Hauptbahnhof and grab a ticket for whatever train is coming up next and end up at a relatively random city.
 
Bodensee is nice! …kinda far away though
Also not a city.
 
Oh yeah, that's on my list.
 
@LucDanton :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes Berlin is awesome, you can spend a week in museum island alone...
 
I live more or less across the river from it.
 
1:56 PM
You can definitely do that... if not - Prague is a train away, and so are plenty of other cool places.
Oh, so I take it you've visited :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum And my fondest memories are from visiting friteries :D I didn’t mention them because they’re not really Brussels-specific.
 
It's the sort of plan you always end up delaying because there's no opportunity cost.
Walk across the bridge any day, get a ticket, there you go.
 
1:58 PM
oo that’s an excuse I need to start using
 
@LucDanton cool stuff :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh wow, you were serious...
 
So it's always "I'll do it next week".
More pressing: where did I leave my bicycle?
 
The museums in Berlin are definitely among the best in the world... you've got to see the Pergamon and the AltesMuseum and well... pretty much every other museum there.
 
Or... where am I.
3
 
They're all really good.
 
2:00 PM
Ah, found it
Fwiw the "be a tourist in Berlin" plan consists of getting a five day tourist ticket and taking my sweet time to visit Museum Island and then random stuff.
 
2:14 PM
lol
MJ's rendezvous autopilot failed to notice that I' d encounter my target long before the maneuver node
and happily warped at 100k speed right through the encounter I would have wanted.
 
Maybe it wasn't good enough encounter
 
When I climbed high up the rock face and could not get down, I finally understand how cats get stuck on trees ...
 
this is beautiful
 
the awkward 15 minutes when I just held on the vertical wall & could not get down ... by the end of it, my arms & legs were trembling and I was sweating profoundly
then got rescued by teammates ...
sometimes, dumb people just do not think about that if they climb up a cliff without ropes and that's an dead end, the only way down is to jump off it ...
 
@AlexM. so much better than the newer one.
 
2:28 PM
fucking shit phpmyadming moterfucker
can't see the fucking mysql logs because "javascript fatal error" -> search javascript fatal error -> phpmyadmin FAQ -> solution: upgrade your Internet Explorer to a version >= 5.5
 
user1804599
2:39 PM
> MY ANSWER IS CORRECT OR NOT I DO NOT KNOW I JUST ATTEMPETED TO GIVE CORRECT ANSWER sir.
 
What a fucking mess — Lightness Races in Orbit 7 secs ago
and someone upvoted that shite
> learning java after mca to get job.
 
user1804599
> The concept of "sexual interference with a human corpse" is curious. All a corpse can do on its own is decay, so the only possible "interference" is to prevent its decay. Thus, "sexual interference" rationally would mean some sexual activity while injecting embalming fluid, or while putting the corpse into a refrigerator. However, I doubt that the censors interpret this term rationally. They will have cooked up an excuse for some twisted interpretation that enables them to punish more people.
 
> the only possible "interference" is to prevent its decay.
that's not true
a corpse can also remain entirely stationary; disturbing it by moving it is "interference"
 
user1804599
> This censorship cannot be justified by protecting corpses from suffering. Whatever you do to a corpse, it can't suffer, not even emotionally.
 
user1804599
2:43 PM
How can the author know? Is he a corpse?
 
quite
the author is a twat
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But he did implement a damn good editor called Emacs.
 
@rightfold no he didn't
 
user1804599
> A parrot once had sex with me.
 
@Jefffrey login to mysql properly like a real man
 
2:45 PM
Am I the only one disturbed by a conversation about the "sexual interference with a human corpse"? It's worse than rape a live woman because you are raping a dead person without his/her consent
 
user1804599
 
@Jefffrey it's your fault for using php.
Use a real language, or a real database, both really :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why are you looking at year old answers on 4 yr old question?
 
9 mins ago, by rightfold
lol http://stackoverflow.com/a/17638427/1804599
i.e. ask the lobster
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ah, my bad
@rightfold see above
 
2:49 PM
@Borgleader yes, you're your bad
 
> compilor
 
TIL we're not allowed to look at answers that are a year old
 
You can, but... I mean, why would you actively seek out old bad answers =/
 
that answer is not bad
it's sad
 
@Borgleader What makes you think he did?
 
2:51 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't, it's just a guess, hence why I asked
> MY ANSWER IS CORRECT OR NOT I DO NOT KNOW
 
> hence why
:(
 
@Borgleader SIR
I'm tempted to drop a message like
 
> Q)Why public classname should be java file name? ans:
 
"At ease private. In fact, pick up your stuff and gtfo, you're out of the army."
 
I just can't understand why anyone would write that
 
user1804599
2:52 PM
@Borgleader I forgot.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm no real man when it comes to PHP/MySQL.
I'm a real bitch.
 
user1804599
It’s a retarded restriction.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Use Scala and PostgreSQL.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, you think English is my language, but I merely adopted English. I wasn't born in it, nor molded by it.
 
Jul 10 at 23:54, by Jefffrey
Currently a stupid uni project with forced PHP and MySQL.
 
user1804599
2:54 PM
Drop out.
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no I don't want any solution or something I just want that you people figure out what changes I can do so that it complies faster. I don't won't any answer of this program — geeksoul 1 min ago
 
user1804599
Stop wasting time on uninteresting bullshit.
 
yeah good idea
cya!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ there are no C++ headers included in the question, it's still tag spam as the question is pure C — Mgetz 14 secs ago
 
2:56 PM
this is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I read indian answers/questions overusing "sir"
 
Yeah, so that "X new answers have been posted" banner just came up to warn me about my own answer being posted.
 
What banner ?
 
Oh my, so many one letter variables :( — Borgleader 6 secs ago
 
@rightfold When in 5 years everybody will want to be a programmer, having a uni degree will make it easier to demonstrate you have spent years breaking your balls against uni shit; and that proves determination and self control.
 
@Jefffrey Don't try to convince him. It's a massive waste of time
 
2:59 PM
@Jefffrey uni degree means shit in most cases. What I want to see as an employer is drive, passion, and willingness to learn. Most of the straight out of Uni engineers out there don't even know how to use source control of any sort.
 
this guy just put a copyrighted book in .pdf format on his github repo wtf
 
@AlexM. and?
 
@Mgetz It means so little that (from my small experience) 70%+ of programming jobs require a uni degree.
 
@Mgetz that's illegal distribution?
 
3:00 PM
report him
 
^ this
 
"but.. I'm helping people!!"
 
@Jefffrey oh that's just to narrow the field to people that have a prayer of not sucking
 
moron
TIL @Jefffrey has a "small" experience giggle
 
@AlexM. what guy?
 
@AlexM. I thought it was this one lol
 
its basically all his repos
 
lol so it's not his first
 
but to be honest some of it's been up there for 2 years
it's up to the publisher to issue DMCA takedowns if they have a problem with it
 
3:05 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that will show him!
 
but you did not write this book
I think it would be a problem even if he wrote it
 
indeed
but cba
 
hit him with your sharpest bug report
 
like, there are artists who put their music on youtube only to have it taken down by the guys distributing it LOL
i.e. those who signed contracts with
 
3:06 PM
dumbz
 
@AlexM. YAY copyright screwing over the artists!
oh wait... isn't the point of copyright to support the sciences and useful arts?
 
user1804599
@AlexM. Maybe he has permission!
 
@rightfold considering there are repos of his closed for copyright issues
I'd say I'm more inclined to think he doesn't
 
fucking pirates
> Lee Wei Yeong
> Singapore
they just don't give a flying fuck
 
@Mgetz They can't possibly survey the entire internet =/ (only the NSA can do that)
 
3:09 PM
> fucking internet
fixed that for you
 
@Puppy Wut? Is there a reason you're such an a-hole with that comment you made? I never said that anybody should write the code for me. I justified my not-catching the non-seriousness of someone's remark as I have other things going through my mind, that's all.
 
@Borgleader they have bots and companies that do it
 
which comment?
 
@HakanBoztepe What comment?
 
> Im happy they didn't code mc with C++.. updates would take longer
 
3:10 PM
which leads to hilarious takedowns
 
user1804599
lol even longer
 
@Jefffrey Framerates would be higher =/
 
Pick any one.
 
I pick you. Now what?
 
I want a case modded like this one <3
 
3:11 PM
@Puppy you said "Your deadline not our problems "
 
a simple statement of fact.
 
Oh, don’t pick that one actually.
 
But nevermind. I just wanted to make it understandable that my "have a deadline" != "make all my code in 15 minutes". Has nothing to do with that.
 
@HakanBoztepe He's always an arsehole to newcomers. Just ignore him.
 
3:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He's not a newcomer, I have him plonked =/
 
@Lightness Races in Orbit It's ok I'll do that :-)
@borgleader What does plonked mean?
 
@HakanBoztepe things won't get better even after you hang around
I keep on showing puppy how much I love him
but alas, he does not reciprocate my sentiments
wtf is haswell refresh
it is like a new generation of the same thing?
is it better than the previous
now I don't even know what processor is ok to buy
 
@AlexM. Yes.
it's basically Haswell but they tweaked a couple things so it's a little faster.
 
Hehe I'll try showing a bit of love too :D If you just told me that before!
 
@Puppy which is why I'm waiting for Broadwell, the die shrinks tend to be a lot more stable
 
3:20 PM
@AlexM. Haswell was a "tock", Broadwell is a "tick", it's essentially Haswell with some tweaks (and I believe a die-shrink)
"Tick-Tock" is a model adopted by chip manufacturer Intel Corporation since 2007 to follow every microarchitectural change with a die shrink of the process technology. Every "tick" is a shrinking of process technology of the previous microarchitecture (and sometimes introducing new instructions as with Broadwell) and every "tock" is a new microarchitecture. Every year to 18 months, there is expected to be one tick or tock. == Roadmap == == See also == List of Intel CPU microarchitectures == References == == External links == Intel Tick-Tock Model of Architecture & Silicon Cadence In...
(and yep, die shrink)
 
oh broadwell is not released yet I see
 
@Borgleader He seems perfectly reasonable to me.
@HakanBoztepe On an ignore list
 
Do you C++'ers use C++ or Php for web programming in general? This is a guess I made because they share a lot of syntax.
 
I'm on sandy bridge atm
 
damn already pushed back to Q2 2015... I may have to buy haswell
 
3:21 PM
lol wot the fuck
 
@HakanBoztepe Neither
 
C++ and PHP have basically nothing in common, even syntactically..
 
@HakanBoztepe PHP traditionally but as of my new project I'm using C++ for the web component and I love it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I wasn't saying anything about his current behaviour, all I'm saying is he was here before (since I have him plonked). I must have either had a reason to plonk him or was having a bad day.
 
Don't call me C++er punk
 
3:22 PM
@Puppy Look if you have nothing useful, constructive or nice to say how about you just shut the fuck up?
 
right back at ya
 
fucking arsehole
no wonder you have no friends
 
glad to know I'm in good company
 
@Lightness Races in Orbit Ignore list?
 
> As for owners of Sandy Bridge systems, it gets a bit more open to debate; users of the 2500K are still in a comfortable position with gaming as long as the video card is relatively high-powered. I'd hold off until either Devil's Canyon or Broadwell for an upgrade if I were on the 2500K.
 
3:23 PM
@HakanBoztepe But then I'd miss out on all the fun!
 
well I'm on i5 2400 but since broadwell is so close haswell makes no sense
 
@HakanBoztepe Yes they share syntax but that's not really a factor. More important is how expressive the languages are and how easily they integrate into a web server
 
I wouldn't necessarily say that.
the newer CPUs won't necessarily offer better value for money.
 
@Borgleader ok
 
the Haswell chips will become much cheaper when they're not top-range anymore.
 
3:24 PM
@AlexM. Broadwell may not use the same socket as Haswell (they do that sometimes >.> iirc)
 
@HakanBoztepe (i.e. PHP module for Apache, CGI support in webserver for C++ program...)
 
Hello, I am porting an old code which works on g++4.1 to new ones. Currently on g++-4.6, I get this error:
error: invalid initialization of non-const reference of type
 
@Puppy that makes sense
 
hello, you seem to have mistaken us for a helpdesk.
 
@Borgleader I'd have to change the motherboard anyway
 
3:25 PM
Your code is broken hth
 
@mahmood At a guess, your old code was not valid C++.
 
haswell uses 1150 and sandy uses 1155
 
I like that I can compile my entire web app and it is largely statically checked for me, so fewer runtime surprises. Also, there is a large part of the same project which is not web-based, and I like to share models and other code between all the components. So that's why I C++'d it.
@mahmood Older GCC was more lenient to broken code.
 
Tbh, I thought only MSVC did that one.
 
I feel that my case is a bit crowded and I was thinking about getting an ATX case together with an ATX mb
and maybe get some neons in there because fuck yeah I'm a gamer and that shows it clearly
(obviously)
 
3:26 PM
excuse me
forget it!! anyway
 
@chris g++4.1 is old as hell though
 
@Borgleader Yeah, the first compiler that I knew I was compiling with was GCC 4.4.1.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Look at 4.1.0 though
 
Got it :-) Well it was just a curiosity I wanted to know. Yes, maybe not that similar, but a lot if you take other interpreted languages such as Python, Lua, Ruby etc.
 
3:27 PM
@CatPlusPlus one year earlier ohnoes cant use it not invented in 2014 #hateoldthings
 
And that's 8 years ago :v
 
Yes an I am trying t port it to new versions. I will ask in the SO.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 4.1 was 2006, thats 8 years ago, I was running a P4 3Ghz back then IIRC
single core days :P
 
I am starting to work with C and that was why I'm "hacking" Nginx apart. It just gets better to show how the networking layer works in C, and you learn new things.
 
@Borgleader I was using a P4 2.8 GHz up to like 3 years ago.
 
3:29 PM
@Borgleader so
 
Shared with siblings.
 
Don't work with C
 
I was happily using XP until last month and that was released in 2001
 
XP doesn't really age the way compilers do.
 
Coincidentally, XP was also terrible in so many ways it's hard to count them
 
3:30 PM
don't bring facts into this
what
XP was awesome
 
@HakanBoztepe You learn new things about C, which means you learn nothing new of value.
 
Cat prefers Windows ME.
 
Compared to 2000
9x line was completely broken
 
@Cat Plus Plus Why? More difficult than C++?
 
@HakanBoztepe use the reply-to arrow at the far right of messages plz
 
3:32 PM
More shit than C++ and C++ is already plenty shit
 
hehe Window Mistake Edition
 
@HakanBoztepe It's like C++, but with all the useful features left out.
 
@Puppy Yeah but maybe then the jump to C++ shouldn't be a problem :-P
 
@HakanBoztepe You'd only have to learn the whole language from scratch, since you don't know how to use any of the useful features.
 
3:34 PM
@HakanBoztepe Never think that again.
 
You will have a lot more problems in C++, coming from C, than coming from nowhere
 
C programmers historically write abysmal C++ because they learnt C habits
 
So what language should he use?
 
You can shove C into C++, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's C++.
 
and worse, they taught others their bad habits.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit removed :(
 
@Borgleader get moar rep
how are you not 10k yet???
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm passively working on it ;)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That OS
 
coseblocks
 
3:37 PM
It's so old gah #hateoldthings
 
seriously though, i got fucking tired of answering bad questions :(
 
Oh ok :-) Performance wouldn't be that much different right? The compiler should levigate away any differences no?
 
@chris That's probably Win7 without Aero
 
it looks like Windows XP but that actual dialog is Windows 7, I believe.
it's just been styled to be oldskool
 
also i answered a question a week ago, that got me 35 rep
 
3:38 PM
Oh dang you're right
 
I only say "probably" because I don't know how Vista without Aero looks like
 
@Lightness I don't see it from the mobile layout :-(
 
I think there isa quick way to turn off all cruft in Win 7
 
Define "cruft"
 
gradients & transparency
 
3:41 PM
Disabling Aero disables hardware acceleration
 
Maybe I should post this issue on Meta? But when I have internet back on my laptop or I'll write something downworthy :-/
 
You can make things opaque without disabling Aero
 
Aha
> I have yet to see a program that can be written better in C than in C++. I don’t believe such a program could exist. By “better” I mean smaller, more efficient, or more maintainable.
 
~prmerfrmoance~
4
 
I knew I remembered Bjarne saying something like that. /cc @HakanBoztepe
 
3:43 PM
Of course he said that
 
Bjarne could be biased?
 
@Chris got it! But then, what C++ program do you suggest I hack away for knowing how networking (such as a web server) is done?
 
write your own.
 
Oh ok I'll search that Meta question if it exists.
If I write my own I'm afraid of more expert programmers criticizing my work publicly :-/
 
dude, that's how you actually learn shit
 
3:48 PM
@HakanBoztepe People will be paying puppy to flame their code soon.
 
Yay intel compiler free student license!!
I want to be a student forever and ever :-p
 
@Puppy Would be hilarious if you knee-jerk binned your first apprentice :)
 
@rubenvb Now I wish I still was one lol
 
"puppy sensei pls t..."
"your code is shit."
"I'd downvote it if I could but this mentor shit doesn't let me downvote"
 
I wonder if I am allowed to redistribute binaries built with this monster.
 
3:52 PM
@rubenvb Linux version is free for non-commercial use anyway..
 
@Lrdx yeah, but Windows version isn't.
 
Guess I'll try that and cross my fingers that my future won't be blocked by some shitty software I write :D
And write it with a different nickname.
 
everybody writes shit software when they first start.
lots of people keep writing shit software.
 
Something like Bitcoin. Nobody does really know its author :-P
Think the second one should stop working then :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh well. Berlin it is. Bought the 5-day pass.
A Week at the Museums with R. Martinho Fernandes.
 
3:59 PM
lol
Watch out for walking dinosaurs.
 

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