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Ell
12:00 AM
C++ would be fine
I still think a microkernel makes so much more sense
Monolithic is common sense out the window
 
user1804599
Run all programs in a VM in kernel space.
 
Ell
Why? :P
 
Yes, but WHO runs the VM?
 
user1804599
The kernel.
 
another VM?
 
Ell
12:02 AM
@mik the hypervisor of course :D
 
user1804599
It just JIT-compiles bytecode and runs the machine code in kernel space.
 
user1804599
Security can be done with custom constructs rather than rings.
 
user1804599
Simplifies a lot and makes for much faster system calls.
 
user1804599
but ermagherd gotta write C code
 
I need a good introduction to allocators.
 
Ell
12:03 AM
I do kind of wonder why it's done in hardware. I guess performance
I don't think it'd make for faster syscalls
You still have to do the checks but they are in software now
 
user1804599
You don’t need context switches anymore.
 
user1804599
For compatibility you could still run old software out of kernelspace.
 
template<typename U>
explicit Allocator(Allocator<U> const&) {}
// ^  what is the point of having this constructor?
 
Guys, I'm going to go request hashtags
Oh wait, we have tags
 
user1804599
12:06 AM
@StackedCrooked The point is unnamed.
 
@StackedCrooked Because Foo<U> isn't convertible to Foo<T> otherwise.
So for whatever reason, there's merit in converting an allocator for one type to that of a similar type.
 
user1804599
> Eva Lu Ator, another user, …
 
user1804599
Oh SICP.
 
@chris Why should they be? (probably a stupid question)
 
@StackedCrooked That's the problem. I've never used allocators and haven't looked into them too much.
 
12:08 AM
@Ell and ruby is great, right
 
huh... I come home to find my PC off. but all the clocks are fine so no power cut. what.
 
Perhaps it enables std::vector<int> t = std::vector<int, Alloc> {};
 
Ell
@bartek it's better than Lua alright :P
 
also my xbox forgot it was logged in and needs me to choose a storage device again. huhhh
what have I missed here?
 
@Ell I respect your opinion but you're wrong and fuck you.
Also picking bathroom sinks.
 
Ell
12:09 AM
Let's get into this debate again, it will be fun :P
Maybe we need a room for ourselves though
 
No I need to pick sink. And a cabin. And shower system.
And colours.
And closets.
 
user1804599
Lua and Ruby are both not lisps.
 
user1804599
So they both suck.
 
And FUCKING EVERYTHING in that fucking apartment
 
Ell
Haskell is not a lisp
 
12:10 AM
and then find money to buy all of it.
 
Ell
For shower, get a temperate control one
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz You are going to fuck everything? Hot.
 
user1804599
@Ell It sucks!
 
Ell
Not a hot/cold tap control one
 
@Ell ((+) 2 3) is valid haskell
 
Ell
12:11 AM
Maybe it is a lisp then :P
 
@Ell you mean the mixing one or the thermostat one?
 
user1804599
user=> (def sucks? (constantly true))
#'user/sucks?
user=> (map sucks? #{:haskell :lua :ruby})
(true true true)
 
and now the entire xbox live website comes up with runtime errors
excellent
 
@StackedCrooked "Somehow, when you create an std::list<int, malloc_allocator<int> >, the list has to turn the malloc_allocator<int> into a malloc_allocator for list nodes."
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz lol you cannot apply 0 to 2 and 3.
 
user1804599
12:12 AM
0 is not a function.
 
Ell
@bartek thermostat. Well basically any one where you can reliably get the same temperature with a knob or whatever. Even if someone else uses a hot or cold tap (obviously flow will decrease)
 
^Stolen from DrDobbs article on allocators
 
@chris That's that what the rebind does iirc.
 
Ell
I just find that kind of shower so much more user friendly
 
user1804599
mallocator
 
user1804599
12:13 AM
malfunctioning allocator
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah, so that's where a rebind comes in useful
 
Ell
Personally :P
 
@Ell also more expensive
 
user1804599
allocaten als een malle
 
2 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
and then find money to buy all of it.
 
Ell
12:13 AM
Yeah true, but think. How often do you buy a shower?
Once ideally
But fair enough :)
 
You give a container a allocator<T>, but it needs to allocate nodes of some sort, whether list nodes, or tree nodes, or whatever.
So it needs the ability to go from an allocator<T> to an allocator<Node<T>>.
 
support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live-status - indicates that it's broken. no link to this from the main homepage, even when you can reach it.
could only find it from tweets written by randomers
microsoft you are a bunch of arse-waggling cunts
 
And again, I haven't done this or anything, so look at how an implementation uses it or something.
 
@Ell that kind of mentality is okay if you don't have to replace everything at once
 
Ell
Yeah :/
I guess you could apply that mentality to the hardest to replace things?
 
12:16 AM
well, makes sense
I'm gonna pay 500€ for my floors alone. (hopefully less)
 
user1804599
What do you need floors for?
 
Yeah, truncs work fine.
 
user1804599
Visit your local standard library. They probably have floor for you.
 
@rightfold You place stuff on them and walk on them.
 
OI TWATS I'M TALKING
 
user1804599
12:18 AM
How can you not have a floor?
 
user1804599
Is there an infinite hole in the ground?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit seriously your random power outage is nothing.
@rightfold I have a floor. But it's damaged a bit and need to be refreshed.
It's hardwood.
 
user1804599
I’d get a metal floor.
 
@BartekBanachewicz my point is that there was not a power outage
so how did my PC shut down spontaneously
 
@rightfold that would be terrible to walk on
 
user1804599
12:19 AM
A floor made of potassium.
 
user1804599
Be sure to clean often, with lots of water.
 
Ell
@lightness cosmic rays?
 
Windows logs indicate it was the PC randomly lost power not a shutdown. so maybe my PSU is fucked or something
 
Ell
@rightfold k.
 
user1804599
Indeed. Potassium is K.
 
Ell
12:20 AM
Probably. Sniff it?
 
don't sniff potassium
 
user1804599
I want roof tiles made of potassium-coated white phosphorus.
 
the funniest part of this
will be tearing the wall down
which I am going to do with my bare hands
 
Ell
@bartek no you won't :P
 
user1804599
Insulate your home with asbestos. I heard it works good.
 
Ell
12:22 AM
You can't tear a wall down with your hands
Unless you're the hulk
 
it's a thin wall
 
Ell
You must at least have a hammer or something big and heavy
Oh. No bricks?
Or cement or whatever;
 
Well a huge hammer would be nice too
@Ell I'm not sure. It's between the toilet and the bathroom and I want it gone.
 
Ell
Watchout for plumbing
 
user1804599
> Pliny the Younger wrote in 61-114 AD that slaves who worked with the mineral asbestos became ill.
 
12:23 AM
the plumbing is gonna be replaced alltogether
 
user1804599
lol they already knew that shit in 114 AD.
 
Ell
Haha
 
Notice, how that didn't stop them from using Asbestos in everything. For example, table cloths.
 
user3010322
=/
 
user3010322
I hate lua.
 
12:32 AM
Says the guy who's been working on a lua/c++ thing for weeks :P
 
user3010322
Yeah.
 
user3010322
This is the last thing, and now lua's stupid semantics fail me.
 
@fgtbtch @gameinformer yeah cos that's how massive distributed networks work: if one person can play then everybody can. obviously. #derp
 
@Ell Some internal walls are made of little more than plasterboard.
a strong man could punch a hole right through it, if you knew in advance.
 
user1804599
12:49 AM
@ThePhD Then don’t use it, Jesus.
 
user3010322
@rightfold I will not be beaten!
 
user1804599
/me beats ThePhD.
 
user3010322
;~;
 
/slaps ThePhD around with a large trout.
 
i feel like you're ignoring me
 
12:59 AM
-3
Q: Need help for Senior Prank

dfghjklI want to make a grand exit from highschool. As you can see from the following code, I plan on forcing all infected computers on my schools network go to a certain website on the last day of school. I plan to start putting this on computers the first day of school and have them count down, but to...

 
Ell
I need a pole.
To translate "kaputski" for me
 
was just about to post that
 
@Jefffrey lolfail
 
Oh come on.
You of all people.
 
Ell
He's a child. Not a moron!
 
1:04 AM
anyone who uses the term "senior" to describe a year of education is a moron
 
This guy needs to learn to be discreet
 
he doesn't even start his question with "I live in the USA, and in my country, 'Senior' means <X>"
twat
 
Having a service that would let us do what we want with other computers was pretty fun, though.
Make a random poor soul sitting near us type in 1337 when pressing letters for a minute.
 
lol of all things to get offended by
you pick that
truly impressive
he could also be canadian
or South American
 
Yeah, we use that in Canada
Although in my high school, seniors were grade 11 and up
 
1:08 AM
also check out the first revision
using fucking HASHTAGS as tags in titles now
I hate this new generation they are all cunts
 
1 hour ago, by chris
http://stackoverflow.com/revisions/24976598/1
 
lol
that was good
 
> Could you guys explain the hate? Im not going to meatspin or anything explicit I just want to redirect to my own webpage, I put the [prank_IP] because I haven't made the site yet – dfghjkl 3 mins ago
 
maybe he should explain his hate
 
1:21 AM
maybe you should explain your hate
 
isn't it obvious?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think my generation is maybe the one that started this whole hashtags for everything business :(
 
@chris off to the gallows with you
 
I don't see the point of them
I never really used Facebook anyway and didn't even have a proper phone until a month or whatever ago
There's too much focus on social media
My phone doesn't even have a plan right now. That's not the biggest reason I got it.
 
focus?
try rampant obsession
 
1:26 AM
especially for those of us who hate being social.
and social people being social.
and pretty much everything social, ever.
 
"social" on the internet has nothing to do with that
whatsoever
 
And being social is the right way to behave as dictated by society.
 
srsly Puppy if you think having a social life is anything like Facebook/Twitter/etc then no wonder you're shit at it :)
 
For all this stuff about being gay or whatever other previously abnormal trait, people still hate those who like to keep to themselves
 
no I don't think that, but it's closer than I'd like.
 
1:28 AM
lolwut
 
Dang it SO not showing me the "x new comments" half the time
 
#cerr
 
Belgian news: College enrollment fees of over 1000EUR will not be allowed by the government.
Not sure how much it costs in other countries.
 
they put it up to 9k a year here
 
1:31 AM
Yeah, I heard that in most other countries it's much more expensive.
 
11
Q: Why don't the black holes appear black in color in images of galaxies taken from HST?

fahadashAccording to NASA a black hole is anything but empty space. Rather, it is a great amount of matter packed into a very small area According to the documentary Space Unraveling The Cosmos about Black Holes Gravity here is so strong even light cannot escape Which leads me to believe tha...

ITT "black in color [sic]"
@StackedCrooked per..?
 
per year
 
This does not include the price of the books.
 
1:33 AM
Some of the books I got for uni were actually pretty good
the dragon book being one of them
 
uh
 
My tuition is $6400 this term
 
@Borgleader You did compiler development?
 
And then that stupid $600 co-op fee for being in co-op and other stuff bringing it up to $7600
 
welp
 
1:34 AM
@chris damn
 
feeling unsick now so time to return to bed.
 
@StackedCrooked I had a compiler class yes, we saw LL(k), LR(k), recursive descent and a few other things
 
@Borgleader I'm surprised they actually used that and not some crappy one
 
wish me luck
 
@Borgleader Lucky you.
 
1:35 AM
@Puppy Good luck. If you realize you're dreaming, don't make your first instinct be to wake up
@StackedCrooked It annoys me how they say you can get some of it back (and I never use any of that optional stuff that's included in there anyway), but in order to do that, you go in person and probably fill something out to get like $5 which could be good for a lunch that day, and repeat for each and every thing that advertises getting anything back.
 
latest chrome slow as fuck go figure
loading facebook freezes youtube
 
lel
 
I kind of want to switch to Opera
 
@chris I guess it would be best to ...not think about it too much? At least that's what I'd do :)
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah, I've been doing that.
 
1:43 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my chrome is updated and im not having any issues
 
@Borgleader then you're wrong
obviously
 
@chris IIRC it's a common practice to get a student loan and pay it off once you start' working?
 
@StackedCrooked I should think so...
 
How many years does it take to pay it off?
 
depends how fast you pay it back...?
apply mathematics
 
1:44 AM
@StackedCrooked I absolutely don't want to take out a loan.
I plan to come out of university not in debt.
 
looooooooooooooool
so young, so naive
 
@chris Then how did you get the 6.4k?
 
I guess I'm lucky. Students don't have to take a loan to go to university here.
 
@StackedCrooked First two terms I had stuff in an RESP from parents etc and whatever other help that comes for the first part.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Did you ..drink tonight?
 
1:46 AM
This term, I got a better than expected job for co-op.
 
IIRC Cat's university is pretty much free.
 
@StackedCrooked yes but I would be using the same words in the same order and with the same capitalisation even if I weren't, and you know it
@chris you work at the co-op?
 
Might do it again next co-op term, too. And I live comfortably on quite little. Rent's pretty good, no piles of food...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, I develop stuff.
 
@chris but the co-op sells food
 
co-op is a paid internship iirc
 
Actually, we make lunch at work every day.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit same
 
@Jefffrey :)
@chris yeah and then you sell it at the checkouts
 
1:49 AM
Not a huge place, around 7 or 8 people working there, nice kitchen.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We sell guitar pedals.
 
the co-op does not sell guitar pedals
 
If I'm just tired, ignore me. The company sells guitar pedals.
 
you're guilty of failing to fall into my trap
damn you
 
Silly me got less sleep because my first instinct upon becoming lucid was to GTFO
 
you're still dreaming actually
 
1:51 AM
I was drunk driving and the cop called me out. I don't even
I drink at work very occasionally and I can't even legally drive by myself yet.
 
gods how old are you
 
20
 
oh, not an age thing then
just a late bloomer
 
I never saw the point in being all excited to drive
I bike to work. I'll get the rest of my license when I go back to school.
 
oh man driving is the best thing ever
 
1:54 AM
Still, I have to wonder how I get a dream about drinking and driving
 
i wanna race
 
And speeding up when I see a cop doing a check ahead
Dream logic
It's a sign never to drink and drive? Who knows, I wasn't about to anyway.
 
@chris That's one thing that I thought really sucked in Inception. Dreams are too normal there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, that world works a bit differently. Dreams are actually designed.
Well, most of the ones that we saw anyway.
Unless the whole movie is a dream and it was designed by someone.
 
I once dreamt I was in a Quake 3 Arena match :3
it had better graphics obv
 
1:58 AM
Yeah, then that leads to "why didn't these dumbasses design this to make their lives easier?"
 
Knowing me, if I didn't nope out of my dream when I became lucid, stupid brain would dream my trying to fly and the police officer shooting me
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, part of it was making it look normal to the mark, but then the things that really screwed everything up were his defences in the first layer and then Cobb's crazy crap.
Considering the penalty of limbo, it was supposed to be pretty safe.
And then they start getting shot at and everything
 
@chris Nah. It was all a dream and that's why everyone in it does stupid things.
 
All this stuff with airplanes
This is starting to happen
@Borgleader I almost sat there watching all of that.
 
2:05 AM
PCH temperature is 52ºC, CPU temperature is 25ºC
 
@chris I'm still watching all of that :P
some minor things happen
 
cores hovering around 98ºC
48º around my SSD
72º around my graphics card
lols
think I found out why it shut down earlier. the window was open though and it's not the hottest day we've had so far :/
anyway nn
 
> Anybody remember limewire? You try to download the simpsons movie and its shitty quality midget porn... those were the days.
So it's midget porn and the quality is shitty.
If you didn't want to see midget porn then how does the quality matter?
 
I remember rickrolls instead.
I once downloaded an album and it was 100% rickrolls
 
lol
This kind of thing never happened to me.
I sometimes got zip or rar files that required a password.
 
2:10 AM
well that still happens
they're all over the fucking place on usenet
ANYWAY NN
 
I never used usenet for downloading stuff.
It's a complete unknown world to me.
 
I used to use IRC instead
 
it's all I've used for 10 years
going downhill now though. takedowns are very effective lately
started on IRC
 
I use private trackers now.
 
2:12 AM
night
 
Sleep like a princess.
 
There was some game like WoW that hid a rickroll in a call to the kernel for reverse engineers to find.
 
anyone here ever done asp.net stuff?
 
@chris wut? o.o
 
2:16 AM
Can't remember where I found the video.
 
2:26 AM
Starts at the story
 
2:51 AM
Hahaha
I wanted to make a WoW bot at some point
but... I had no knowledge whatsoever
 
Latest Fairy Tail episode is quite something.
 
user3010322
3:10 AM
@chris The presenters are kinda... dicks.
 
@chris Also, my favorite ever Defcon "talk" (not that I've watched many, which I should do)
 
@Borgleader Yeah, I've only seen a couple
#define _player
There's something waiting to break something
 
#define true false // happy debugging fuckers
 
@Borgleader At least that one's UB if you include any standard library headers.
Actually, I guess this one might be considered UB as well, being reserved.
Anyway, you're supposed to define both true and false as (rand() % 2).
 
@chris Rand is evil considered harmful D:
 
3:16 AM
I figured there's a higher chance of <cstdlib> being included
 
include it right before #define
or else you get undefined errors and they fix it right away
 
Eh, I guess.
Still, I'm sure rand's PRNG suffices for confusing developers.
 
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing, go for broke and use <random> :3
 
#undef INTERESTING_MACRO
#define INTERESTING_MACRO SOME_MACRO_WITH_5000_EXPANSIONS(invalid, arguments)
Change a macro that normally has a good number of expansions and make the new version innocuous enough that it's hard to stare at what the compiler gives and figure it out.
 
@Borgleader at least try to be original
 
3:25 AM
:(
 
you deserved it
> Metagenomics, or sequencing of the genetic material from a complete microbial community, is a promising tool to discover novel microbes and viruses. Viral metagenomes typically contain many unknown sequences. Here we describe the discovery of a previously unidentified bacteriophage present in the majority of published human faecal metagenomes, which we refer to as crAssphage.
Is that a pun at the end?
 
I love you guys ;_;
 
@Borgleader lol this is fun
 
I accidentally typed chant.stackoverflow.com as url.
There's nothing there.
 
> Melvin Guzman is the kind of person who spells his own name wrong on his Facebook page.
 
oh man
thank you std::function::target
you have saved my day
 
I wanted to know if I could receive the original type
also C++ can have markdown
int *const* :p
 
I still can't believe the genius behind analog literals, especially that it was able to be 3D.
 
@chris analog literals?
 
wtf
 
Oh crap
I give up
Not worth the effort.
 
window.dimensions = o-----------o
                    |           !
                    !           !
                    !           !
                    !           !
                    o-----------o ;
here ya go nub
 
My copy-paste-select-Ctrl-K didn't work.
At that point, why bother lol
But lol, just imagine using those to specify a window's dimensions, probably with a .scale() function or something.
 
 
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user3010322
5:36 AM
Blarghavargha.
 

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