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9:24 AM
fuck software. why there is no text editor with all features I want?
 
@Abyx SublimeText
 
Vim/Emacs/SublimeText?
 
@FredOverflow last time I tried to use it I didn't like it. especially editing config files
 
editing config is incredibly easy o.o
 
@Rapptz vim or emacs? are they... graphical?
 
9:30 AM
it's.. just a JSON file.
What's hard about a JSON file?
@Abyx Yes.
 
'zup guys
 
@Rapptz nope. it's hard to find an option I want to edit there.
 
No..?
 
I have to fucking google its name. it's ridiculous
 
Open up the default file and copy it over to the user file or just view it
then just edit the user file
easy
 
9:34 AM
no I mean if I want to enable "that vertical line at 80th column", I need to know the exact variable name
 
what I said applies to that still
 
I normal text editor I go to a config dialog, "editing" section, and find there something where I can input a number
 
look, there it is :v
 
and in sublime I have to scroll all those 300+ lines of config to find it
 
I've never done that before but okay.
@Abyx Just from that requirement alone I don't think there are many (if any) editors that allow you to edit all configuration through a GUI.
 
9:37 AM
what?
all of them, perhaps?
 
in vim and ST you have to edit config through a text file :v
 
like MSVS, CodeBlocks, QtDestroyer, fucking notepad.exe?
 
well those are IDEs
and Notepad doesn't have many configuration options... if any
 
geany, gedit, etc,?
every fucking program have a "preferences" dialog
 
So does Sublime Text? It's right there.
But you still have to edit the text file
 
9:40 AM
it's not a "dialog". it's not structured
 
FWIW the only text editors I've used are vim, st2/3, nano, geany, gedit, notepad++ and a bunch of IDEs.
 
yeah and I guess only vim and st make you edit config files
 
they're the only editors I've used that I consider "good"
and notepad++ uses config.xml plus a whole bunch of other xml files.
 
but well, editing config files is not that bad. but why those config files don't use fucking "sections"? it's not even ini, it's fucking JSON, you can have any depth you want
why they use fucking comments?
// Application Behavior Settings
why not
"Application Behavior Settings": {
 
don't know, never bugged me but it sounds like a pain to write
considering your issue of looking things up I think that only makes it worse
 
9:45 AM
uhm no
 
now you have to remember what category it is in
and I don't care about that
the names of the variables are self-descriptive enough for the most part
 
nope, I could fold those sections, and it would be easier to search what I want
 
okay
whatever
 
oh wait does ST support folding?
 
yes
 
9:47 AM
that
[+]
|
|_ thing
 
yes
 
ok. good
 
I wanna play that game!
An artsy game where you bury your sense of self-worth with the power of javascript
 
user1804599
10:02 AM
> An experimental game where you write poetry with colors with geometry.
 
user1804599
The goal of the game itself is poetic already.
 
"A strategy game where you nuke castles with mutants."
Could basically do this in SC BW
 
@rightfold poetry with colors with geomeotry? Looks like Scala :)
 
> A browser game where you challenge shapes and you can customize your house
Triangle, eh? I say you're a Square! And now I'm off to Ikea...
 
user1804599
10:06 AM
You can find angels using libheaven. — rightfold 5 secs ago
 
> I hope the title makes since
not really...
 
user1804599
You mean only add the HTML for the dropdown? I just thought adding it all might help to understand the full structure — Leo 52 secs ago
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
10:38 AM
lolwut? sublime text drops comments in user settings?
 
user1804599
 
why can't I just be a kitty-cat?
 
meh sublime text is such a crap
you use "find in files" and it shows you the "find results" panel at bottom. ok. now you open console, or build stuff and that "find results" disappears.
and vise versa - you have build output panel, open another panel, and stuff on previous panel is lost
 
atom is a pretty okay alternative
 
isn't it only for Mac?
ah, I can build it myself. probably. no thanks
 
11:16 AM
TIL about cowsay :)
~ $ cowsay The Lounge Is Awesome
 _______________________
< The Lounge Is Awesome >
 -----------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
 
user1804599
 _______________________
< The Lounge Is Awesome >
 -----------------------
    \
     \
    ^__^         /
    (oo)\_______/  _________
    (__)\       )=(  ____|_ \_____
        ||----w |  \ \     \_____ |
        ||     ||   ||           ||
 
@rightfold is it you?
 
cowsay: command not found
:(
brew install cowsay
 
user1804599
My screensaver at work is while true; do fortune | xcowsay; sleep 1; done.
 
 _____________________________________
/ Education is the process of casting \
| false pearls before real swine.     |
|                                     |
\ -- Irwin Edman                      /
 -------------------------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
nice
 
user1804599
11:22 AM
Education is the process of leaving
rays alone.

-- Steve Irwin
 
user1804599
 
@rightfold nice one
he didn't get the chance to learn from his mistakes though
 
2
Q: Invoking function with string argument with lldb: how?

kdogI am unable to use lldb to invoke simple, non-templated functions that take string arguments. Is there any way to get lldb to understand the C++ datatype "string", which is a commonly used datatype in C++ programs? The sample source code here just creates a simple class with a few constructors, ...

semi-intresting question, related to implicitly inline constructors and ODR-usage
 
SO 2008 was a different place
 
user1804599
It was nicer.
 
11:29 AM
I wasn't here back in 2008, are you saying that I'm part of the downfall of stackoverflow?
 
user1804599
Are there ORMs where the entity types do not have a dependency on the database? :v
 
user1804599
So you cannot do stuff like var e = new User(…); e.save(); either.
 
user1804599
@FilipRoséen-refp haha noob
 
@rightfold that's what you're saying, isn't!?
 
yes, yes it is.
 
11:32 AM
-7
Q: making a birthday cake ASCII art in c++

user2868984is it possible to make this birthday cake ASCII art in C++ : `````````` ✬ '✧ '✬ `````````__♜_♜_♜__ ````````{,,,,,,,,,,,,} ````` ✩`{✫/\✰✰/\✫}` ✩ ```♖_{♖__♖__♖__.♖}_♖ ``` {/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\} ```{,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,} ``{/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\} ``{_✿_❤_❀_♥_✿_♥_❀_❤_✿_} Is it possible to print som...

come on guys, close it, delete it, fcuk it!
 
user1804599
lol the answer
 
@StackedCrooked I like to have offensive fortunes printed on interactive shell start. :)
 
@DeadMG I knew it..
 
user1804599
Hmm, wait that question makes no sense.
 
user1804599
I meant to ask “Are there ORMs where the entity types do not have a dependency on the ORM?”
 
user1804599
11:34 AM
But rather the other way around.
 
^ Scott Meyers
2
 
user1804599
Ideally it would not even bother with relationships.
 
11:52 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp nice, birthday cake
I feel hungry now.
 
user1804599
I think I’m gonna make iOS apps again when the new SDK is out.
 
user1804599
I have an idea in mind but I want to use Swift not Objective-C. :F
 
user1804599
I wonder if much has changed WRT MVC.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Ugh.
 
11:59 AM
lol
 
sbi
Can you pass structs per copy in C?
 
I was only replying to @FredOverflow 's comment.
@sbi I would expect so.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Mhmm. I wasn't sure, but thought in C you can only pass built-in types per copy.
ICBWT.
 
user1804599
@sbi struct a { int x; }; void foo(struct a a); here foo takes a by value and it’s copied when passed.
 
user1804599
Same as in C++.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked that is C++, not C.
 
sbi
@rightfold Ah, Ok, if both of you say it's possible, I must have remembered that wrongly.
 
oh, right, I need to rename to .c
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked That's not C code.
 
Thank you so much! You would not believe how long I spent trying to figure this out, and it was all just one character. You have to admit though, lldb's error message was about as misleading as possible. Anyway that completely fixed the problem. Are you a C++ guru, wow. Thanks. — kdog 41 secs ago
 
sbi
12:02 PM
@StackedCrooked It won't compile then.
 
I'm no "C++ guru", I'm a mothafucking gangsta'!
 
Well, I don't know C.
I should remain silent in this discussion.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked struct ABC. In C, structs live in their own namespace.
 
sbi
12:05 PM
Well, thanks to the two of you. I dunno how that got into my head then. But it's been 20 years since I looked into K&R.
 
13
Q: How do I approach my 13-year-old daughter's confusion regarding her sexuality?

essgeeMy 13-year-old daughter is fascinated and obsessed with another girl. She is not able to do her normal routine things. She has not even talked to the girl yet the girl occupies her full mental space. This has led to all her friends laughing at her and calling her "gay" she has stopped going to sc...

> My 13-year-old daughter is fascinated and obsessed with another girl. She is not able to do her normal routine things. She has not even talked to the girl yet the girl occupies her full mental space.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Are you Mysticial?
 
doesn't sound that confused to me
I think she knows what she wants
 
user1804599
> For something this critical, don't get advice from anonymous Internet strangers. Talk to the therapist instead!
 
user1804599
But this itself is advice from an anonymous Internet stranger. :v
 
sbi
12:12 PM
> My hair style calls into immediate question all my judgements. — Scott Meyers
 
@sbi Arrays are the only special types here. All other types behave the same way in C.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, I knew about arrays.
Well, thanks to you guys.
Bows back over his slides...
 
12:39 PM
I just encourage people with Gender Feelings to lean towards transness and womanhood and not towards cisness or manhood.
ahahhahhahahaa
 
12:59 PM
hey ho
 
user1804599
1:13 PM
Objective-C. Great memories.
 
CHECK YOUR CIS PRIVILEGE
 
hi
 
> arrange a safe and non-intrusive play time for your daughter
"play time" wtf she's not 4
@LightnessRacesinOrbit - Stackoverflow is not a religion or Jihad for me. I like answering people's questions and helping that is why I'm here. It is late and like many programmers my coding skills are better than my grammar skills. Despite you shaming me, if my answer helped this person to understand something that was a mystery to them prior, then I think it was worth it. - Just my thoughts. — Hogan 8 hours ago
another one who doesn't understand the harm in answering crap qs
 
What's up with you virtual people?
 
where are all the interesting questions at!?
 
1:28 PM
Internet at home is broken, and I went to work :G
 
ON SUNDAY
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
You are at work on the day of the Lord.
 
user3010322
@sbi He wanted to drop namespaces?
 
I am an addict, I need help
so it's not a sin
 
user3010322
I never expected Scott Meyers to make that argument...
 
user3010322
In 2001, no less.
 
user1804599
1:32 PM
Drop namespaces and introduce modules.
 
fuck modules, introduce namespaces
 
fuck includes
 
user1804599
Do it like Go except per file instead of per directory.
 
user1804599
Such that if you import a.b.c.d; then you can call d.f().
 
files and directories are not something the language should be concerned about
 
user1804599
1:35 PM
Of course it should.
 
As far as the language is concerned, the source code can come from the almighty stream of God.
 
user1804599
No, that’s terrible.
 
Files are implementation details.
 
user1804599
The language must define where source files can be found and how they are encoded.
 
user1804599
The more of this you define the less confusion and fragmentation there is.
 
1:36 PM
encoding is not an exclusive property of a file
 
source can come from an arbitrary place, doesn't have to be a file
 
@rightfold no, that's a functionality the compiler should provide
 
@Jefffrey and yet so many don't and you end up with crazy shit in strings
@ThePhD I work in a world without namepaces and it is called hell
 
@FilipRoséen-refp none left
 
user1804599
If the language defines this it’s much easier to make build and packaging tools that don’t suck.
 
1:40 PM
> Go fuck.
 
ITS NOT RIGHT
 
(please no jokes on left/right, I'm begging)
 
NO MORE JOKES LEFT
 
:DDD
 
1:41 PM
nice
 
right
 
@rightfold don't forget portability of source, it's a huge issue for windows developers porting to linux who forget that VS doesn't use utf-8 by default
 
user1804599
If C++ enforced UTF-8, VS would have used UTF-8.
 
VS uses WTF-8
 
it should
 
1:42 PM
SEPARATION OF CONCERNS
 
perhaps language should also enforce OS and type of keyboard you're using :|
 
@BartoszKP that's called
 
ABSTRACT MACHINE
TITS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit how did the unconference go?
 
was it yesterday?
 
1:47 PM
that was the announced date
 
@BartoszKP beats me
auyagerkuya someone with the last name Tomalak keeps registering themselves for stuff at the tomalak <at> <gee> <male> .com address. Mine.
This time I got a free registration for some Android software, though it's only worth £15 so no biggie
 
I thought I saw you on the "confirmed yes" list
 
@BartoszKP You did
I "confirmed yes", and then I failed to turn up
 
I see
 
classic lightness
 
1:50 PM
gotta start refreshing black sabbath discography before the gig :V
 
afternoon all
 
: D
 
That's a weird cake. — Rok Kralj 52 mins ago
pahaha Lounged already
 
1:58 PM
I hate it when I find a question that I know for a fact should be a dupe... but can't find the dupe to flag it with
 
I like how @Jefffrey edited it to make the alignment worse, with the message "Improved alignment."
@Mgetz It's like you've been duped, or something.
 
works on my machine v0v
 
0
Q: Visual Studio libraries issues

roloryI'm new to headers subject in C programming, so at first I'm trying to create simple functions and use them on main(). header.c #include <stdio.h> void print_strs(char str[]){ printf("%s", str); } void print_nums(int n){ printf("%d", n); } void line_down(){ printf("\n"); } int...

you tell me is that a dupe?
 
after ^
before ^
 
now it's better
(after Lightness's edit)
you need to buy a new display, Jefffrey
 
2:01 PM
 
I think the problem is probably inconsistency in font widths after "special"-char font substitutions in your browser, and mine
 
after lightness edit ^
 
no, I think there's something wrong with his display
 
and this was the best I could get it
 
maybe you have the plug up-side down?
 
2:02 PM
I have to admit that's pretty
 
non-ASCII non-art
 
ANDDDDYYYYYYYY
how did it go?
 
:D
 
2:08 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Did Cameron just have a heart attack? I can't imagine that coming from a Tory government...
 
@Mgetz That's because you must be one of those people who misrepresents political parties at every turn. Do you seriously think that anyone in the government, Tory or otherwise, would push to deny people the minimum wage that's enshrined in law?
People need to stop their baseless whinging about Cameron
 
@StackedCrooked Now please edit Scott's face in :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you forget my experience, I'm american. The conservative party here (the republicans) actively work to destroy the power of unions, wage laws, and workers.
 
Right, but America is a different country
All of our mainstream parties are what you guys would consider liberal
Your right is fucking insane
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit on this we agree
 
2:14 PM
It's like Americans go around parading the cause of "freedom" and "liberty", when all you're really celebrating is your freedom to be about five decades behind everyone else in terms of progressive thought and general decent humanbeingness
@Mgetz then on this you are correct ;)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The only freedom we have left is to talk shit and look like idiots. The rest is an illusion created by corporate propaganda of the ruling oligarchy.
 
@Mgetz Yeah that sounds about right
They've got so many of your countrymen totally blinded by the march of "patriotism" it's almost funny
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I believe the term is "Jingoistic idiocy"
 
@Mgetz I believe you
 
I love my country, but it could use to look inwards a bit more (a lot!) than it does.
 
user3010322
2:18 PM
USA sucks.
 
@ThePhD that would require a working vacuum, which since all of our infrastructure is from 1969... it isn't
 
user1804599
@CarsoncorpS
37 tweets, 131 followers, following 2 users
 
user1804599
dat tweets
 
user3010322
Wat.
 
2:32 PM
@rightfold I'm not sure I get it?
 
2:42 PM
Daisy barked at me to feed her
 
Hi folks
 
dude, wat dafuq did you do to your avatar
 
Updated it
Irrelevant. Where is melak?
 
clearly not here :P
 
user1804599
app.use(function*(next) {
    var start = new Date();
    yield next;
    var end = new Date();
    console.log('%s %s %sms', this.method, this.url, end - start);
});
 
2:44 PM
Fuck
 
user1804599
omg so awesome generators :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
 
building dam to protect against saliva flooding
 
user1804599
Does it also protect against semen flooding? Since I’ve just sucked the cock of the guy who added generators to Node.js.
 
uh
I'd just leave the area and never find out
 
I Think its clear enough, And its also pretty simple, Can you please help me here? — EranLevi 25 mins ago
yawn
 
Xeo
2:53 PM
@ThePhD The right question would be 'Why are you still awake?'
 
user3010322
@Xeo o.0
 
user3010322
y u no sleep properly ever?
 
user1804599
for (var route of routes) {
                  ^
TypeError: Object [object Array] has no method 'next'
 
user1804599
fuck you :v
 
Xeo
@ThePhD You do know the Unconference is happening right now?
 
user3010322
2:56 PM
You guys stayed up all night?
 
@Xeo No.
 
Xeo
We were out in the city with everybody, so yeah
 
d'awwww, I want this
I have no idea why MonoDevelop is set by default to add annoying spaces between function names and parameter lists. who the fuck does this?
function (param, param, param...);
 
user1804599
Don’t use MonoDevelop.
 
it's the best solution for Unity
 
3:10 PM
use what instead?
inb4 "don't use Unity"
 
@AlexM. Idiots.
 
I've used Vim for almost 5 months now for Unity dev, and no plugin can beat intellisense and the code analysis tools
 
lol vim
 
@Abyx simple editors are the only ones you can trick unity into thinking they're monodevelop
basically I had to write my own program to act like monodevelop but instead start vim
 
hello all folks
two new answers did pop up here: stackoverflow.com/questions/610245/…
I wonder why they didn't do that earlier. was the question published on reddit or soemthing? xD
 
3:23 PM
posted on June 08, 2014 by Anders Schau Knatten

As I’ve previously posted about, there was a great C++ track at NDC this year. It turns out that videos of all the talks are now out. Big thanks to Olve Maudal for putting together this track! And thanks to all the speakers for interesting talks and some nice chats. You can see my talk […]

 
3:49 PM
Hmm idk how im going to sanely deal with operator precedence =/
i dont like his solution either
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Google suggests not; more likely someone just stumbled on it, posted an answer, that bumped it to the front page and someone posted another one
in fact it seems like that person was @Rapptz
it's a question so loungers hit them once in a while
 
@Borgleader what do you mean?
 
@Jefffrey not sure how ill organize the boost spirit rules in
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb It's been under discussion here for the last couple few days.
 
@Borgleader what are you doing?
 
4:04 PM
learning boost spirit
 
I can't stuff a stupid valid inheritance in this SQL project FFS
@Borgleader Oh, I thought you were making a new language :3
 
I installed netbeans. and you know what? it's ~slow~.
 
@Jefffrey ohh
@Jefffrey why is that?
 
Oh wait... boost.spirit is indeed used to parse languages
 
user1804599
4:15 PM
@Griwes dat pun
 
4:38 PM
fuck netbeans. I use it for a few minutes and I already hate it
 
@Abyx It usually works that way. :D
 
git clean -fdx to the rescue =(
ok, let's try create project again
 
@Abyx why are you using netbeans anyway =/
 
well I'm looking for an IDE or text editor to use on Windows instead of MSVS
 
doesnt Intellij have a C++ plugin?
 
4:45 PM
dunno. probably it does.
aaaaargh
ok, uninstalling netbeans
 

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