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12:03 AM
Well, that Shakira/Rihanna video is rather pleasing, isn't it?
 
I don't pay attention to these things
 
lewd
 
Well look, it may not be swing-hop or gothic metal, but I find it to be a surprisingly good track
 
Are you talking about the audio or the video?
 
12:06 AM
as time goes on
I find computers, including Windows, to be less and less usable.
 
can't even share a file over the goddamn home network with my goddamn sister because motherfucking Windows won't shut the fuck up about passwords and shit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Video first, then audio
Shakira playing the guitar and then the drums was surprisingly attractive for something that's ultimately so normal
 
@DeadMG configure the network as home network (that's a choice you make the first time you connect a computer) and you're pretty much done...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, I absolutely did that.
 
12:08 AM
grabs popcorn
 
but it still won't shut up.
 
(plot twist: I don't have any popcorn)
 
I went into that advanced sharing settings thing and told it to shut up
but no, it still won't shut up.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hrhr
 
this is like that file I wanted to delete but it told me I didn't have permission.
fucking system needs to remember who is boss around here
 
12:09 AM
it was probably open
 
Sneakernet!
 
the "fucking system" doesn't know for sure that you are you, remember
it's trying to prevent a virus from sending your naked selfies to your sister
 
Windows' assumption is that you're an average user. It treats you like a baby, generally that works very well but it can get annoying.
 
there are no other user accounts on the system, and I don't even have a password
 
Nice, the stupid fractal works =/
 
12:10 AM
Thing is, Windows doesn't just treat you like a baby. Windows treats you like a baby that's being starved to death and raped repeatedly in a basement over the course of most of its formative years
 
Just serve the damn thing over HTTP/
 
yeah... like I carry an HTTP server around with me
 
@DeadMG I thought you needed to have a password set for file sharing to work
 
$ python2 -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000
Done.
 
I serve it over HTTP, I had fun serving an HTTP server I wrote over HTTP the other day, that felt meta.
 
12:11 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You should be able to get it to shut up and share without one.
 
Also yeah, most programming languages ship with a web server in the base class library.
 
well
firstly because it used to work that way and I see no reason why it still shouldn't, and secondly because I have no need for a password and the system should not force it upon me
 
For most things I want to 5-minute-serve I use SimpleHTTPServer.
 
and thirdly because the documentation clearly says that you can tell it to stop crying about passwords by changing this setting.
 
12:12 AM
Shall I bother teaching you about the basic fundamentals of network security? I imagine it would be fruitless
@DeadMG That is a good reason, I'll grant you :)
 
it's my home network
what are they gonna do, drive down random streets in the middle of the night and hijack my Wifi and ... steal my stolen TV show files?
 
NO WAY
GCC 4.1.2 needs libgcc 4.2.0?
 
Some liberties must be eroded for systems to be made secure. If it were as simple as flicking a switch in a GUI to make network sharing so insecure, viruses would be able to fuck up actual important networks very easily.
i.e. It's not about you
 
yeah, but I don't give a shit about network security and don't need network security right now.
 
refer to my previous comment
 
12:14 AM
and it's my goddamn computer so it's absolutely about me and what I need.
it literally serves no other purpose but to do what I ask of it.
 
no, it's not. you're sharing software with hundreds of millions of others.
right okay then
 
@DeadMG So write your own OS!
@DeadMG ...and since it's not doing what you ask, it simply serves no purpose. :-(
 
I agree that I am finding a computer that won't do what I tell it to to be of substantially lower value.
besides
considering that I'm a technical user with two decades of experience, imagine what it must be like for every other home user who just wants to share a file with a family member.
 
Computer, delete @DeadMG.
Darn. Nope, mine has no purpose either :(
 
the unfortunate thing is that this used to be super easy with the Homegroup.
but Homegroup doesn't actually work.
 
12:17 AM
Have you heard of USB sticks?
 
I just lost mine a few days ago.
the damn things are unfindable.
 
(Jokes aside, sharing over a LAN with Windows 7 is painful as fuck, and I all but gave up on it some time ago. It only works well for me from my Boxee Box, for some reason (awesome little thing))
 
I'm still in favor of starting an HTTP or FTP server.
 
I bought one that clips to your physical belt buckle but the clip broke.
 
Windows comes with IIS express anyway doesn't it? Not to mention IIS.
 
12:18 AM
Oh.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's not a web server
 
GCC 4.7 changed ABI.
I need to compile this with GCC 4.6. What a mess.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum IIS is an abomination, not deserving of the title
IIS is the Taleban of web servers
 
12:19 AM
Because it's 00:19 UTC in the Lounge
Hang on, shit, it's 00:19... nnight!
 
FUCKING SHIT
more than half an hour without internet
I've even thought of doing push ups to pass the time
@R.MartinhoFernandes why is his bad?
@Xeo oh, so I remembered correctly
 
> Minimal complete definition: all except negate or (-)
You're supposed to implement the other functions in Num too.
OMG it built.
 
gratz?
 
12:35 AM
I am now the proud owner of a working GCC 4.1.2.
Greetings from the past.
 
> As Adams continues, he explains that what you see in the screenshots is the elevation once algorithms such as erosion have been applied. Other simulation steps include simulation of weather and rainfall, volcano and temperature models for desert creation, as well as coastal salinity — among other things. (Source).
 
congrats, I guess
 
I wonder what kind of algorithms he uses =/
 
Sleep time
 
'night
 
12:37 AM
night
 
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12:59 AM
<_>
 
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Recruiters.
 
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5 e-mails in 11 days.
 
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What part of "let's agree to talk again at March 3rd" went over their head? He set the date, not me!
 
Is matrix lazy evaluation worth it?
 
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When did the lounge agree to meet up?
 
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1:02 AM
June 7?
 
yes
Jan 10 at 13:44, by thecoshman
Berlin meetup June 7th? The 7th because it is a saturday and prime.
 
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Makes sense
 
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Geez
 
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the recruiter even sicked the head of the team I'll be working on on me. x_X
 
1:34 AM
@ThePhD Time to deploy your nuclear deterrent - post him/her some of your code.
 
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Sounds like a great idea. :D
 
Fuck, I still have not booked a hotel. TODO TOMORROW!
 
@ThePhD I'd start with cowboy_cast
 
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1:51 AM
@ScarletAmaranth I think they actually wouldn't mind that, working on networking code and all.
 
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Probably type-punning the fuck out of all the bytes.
 
if they were anything like my lecturers / tutors in uni, they wouldn't mind goto either
 
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Man
 
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No matter what I do
 
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a plane with a distance of -10 from the origin
 
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1:54 AM
and a normal of 0, 1, 0
 
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never gets hit by a camera above it
 
@ThePhD IMHO, there is not a lot wrong with using a packed union between a byte-array and a collection of protocol fields, assuming that padding is avoided with a suitable #pragma and by ensuring that any bitfields are declared in sets of 8/16/32. I've been doing that for decades, and it's always worked fine. I much prefer that approach to memcpy/<< &| unreadable shit.
 
2:10 AM
@ThePhD I don't think I can trace my way to Fur::intersect()
 
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@ScarletAmaranth That's what it looks like
 
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@ScarletAmaranth All the intersection methods: gist.github.com/ThePhD/6747153fbf639ed5ee02
 
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FWIW, it never gets past denom <= static_cast<T>( 1e-6)
 
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denom always ends up being negative.
 
2:17 AM
mmm, hold on for a moment
dot product is negative if the angle between the vectors is greater than 90, right?
why would you discard that?
you are dot producting plane's normal and the direction vector of the ray
the only situation where it doesn't hit is if the dot product is 0 - that is, the ray is "parallel" with the plane
(or if the intersection happens outside of the view plane obviously)
just check for "close enough to zero" (abs . difference <= delta)
or am I missing something?
 
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2:55 AM
@ScarletAmaranth dot product for 2 normalized vectors just directly represents cos(theta)
 
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The point here though is that it's the denominator of a division for solving a part of the plane equation.
 
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If it reaches 0, then you'd be diving by 0 = holy tits of pain
 
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but.... if it's just negative, maybe that's allowable. I... hm. I'd have to look at the math again.
 
lol
 
3:10 AM
@ThePhD that's what I;m saying, you should allow negative and just check for non close to zero, believe it or not, it's possible to divide by negative numbers ^^
 
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But mathematically, I'm not so sure it's usefu- Oh, wait.
 
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Yes it is. We want to hit the back of planes too.
 
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Herpaderp.
 
yeah that's the thing
 
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I'm going to go to bed.
 
3:10 AM
there is no "back" per se
 
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Because I'm an idiot.
 
it's just about where the normal points
it's arbitrary
 
@EtiennedeMartel Has R# been bugging you for the last 2 days? Apparently the end of the beta is soon and it keeps wanting me to buy a license. I get a pop-up every time I open VS (even VAX limited itself to once a day)
 
@Borgleader No such issue.
 
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Well, now I see the plane.
 
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3:13 AM
Albeit it's shiny as fuck.
 
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I have a pure directional light pointing directly down.
 
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@ScarletAmaranth It looks a bit wrong, though ^
 
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Like the plane is... above the sphere
 
:P
@ThePhD it's not a circle
 
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3:14 AM
instead of below it
 
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@Jefffrey Sphere of radius 50, plane is supposed to be at -10 from the origin, cutting it off partially.
 
@ThePhD it looks well, except for your plane is white
 
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@ScarletAmaranth It's recieving the directional light exactly
 
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E.g. Down (0, -1, 0) compared to up (0, 1, 0) means full lighting, yes?
 
uhhh, sure, depending on where it's getting hit from ^^
 
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3:19 AM
It's getting hit by a Directional Light
 
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e.g. it has no point and casts no shadow when going through objects. It just exists.
 
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I mean, it CAN cast a shadow
 
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But, you know.
 
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Things! And stuff.
 
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Okay, it's definitely 100% wrong.
 
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3:22 AM
scene.Add( sphere_arg, 50.0f, Vec3::Zero );
scene.Add( plane_arg, -10.0f, Vec3::Up );
scene.AddAmbientLight( 0.04f, 0.04f, 0.04f, 1.0f );
scene.AddDirectionalLight( Vec3::Down );
Camera camera( Vec3( 0, 10, -300 ), Vec3::Zero, 500.0f );
 
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That's the scene right now
 
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That's the result.
 
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"Up" for the scene is defined as Vec3::Up (0, 1, 0)
 
I'm back :)
 
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3:32 AM
Die in a fire.
 
Fuck you :)
 
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Oh yes bby~
 
Andrei sure is hitting up those D advertisements today on /r/programming
 
Is it working? :P
 
no
 
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3:37 AM
@Mysticial Hey. If you were building a new rig, would you go with an AMD processor or an intel processor? Assuming you weren't getting something server-grade like a Xeon, but rather something more mundane and down to earth where hte rest of us are. :b
 
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I'm currently inclined towards Intel's i7 Haswell.
 
Intel.
Unless you want super low-end cheap.
 
@Rapptz Hai :)
 
hi
 
@Rapptz Have you worked with Go! much?
 
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3:40 AM
@Mysticial Any opinion on Graphics cards?
 
no
 
@ThePhD nope
I haven't had a real video card since 2009.
 
@ThePhD all work pi and no play means mysticial doesnt need one ;)
 
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Mmkay. I've been using a whole slew of cards so I guess I can trust myself when it comes to video cards.
 
@Borgleader My GTS-260 and GTX-275 are still good enough for my games.
 
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3:41 AM
@Mysticial I have a 260 still!
 
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Still going strong. <3
 
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30 FPS is all I need, baby.
 
@Mysticial o.o what games are those? Pong? :P
j/k
 
TF2
And occasionally 1P like Crysis.
 
@Borgleader DirectX10 so powerful!
 
3:42 AM
And some older games.
 
TIL COD Ghosts requires DX11 hardware.
 
@Mysticial Oh, right. I give mine a little bit more of a workout:
Triple monitor goodness :D :D :D
 
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2 monitors (laptop screen, fresh other monitor) is pretty much all I need.
 
that game is sooooo purrrty :3
 
I've got 4 monitors. But only two of them are hooked up to the 260. The other two are on shitty cards that are barely good enough for Aero.
 
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3:46 AM
I don't even have a table large enough to fit it.
 
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@ScarletAmaranth Lol, no matter what I do it appears upside-down. xD
 
@Borgleader what game is it?
 
@GamesBrainiac Guild Wars 2 :3
at 5760x1080
 
Oh, its MMORPG
 
@ThePhD maybe your notion of up is fucked :)
fuck you all with your million monitors
 
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3:49 AM
Maybe. It keeps doing it upside down. u.u
 
I have one and i'm fine
 
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@ScarletAmaranth I got the second one and it's kind've excessive.
 
@Borgleader heh, I'll pass XD I like games with campaigns
 
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When I'm moving about or even sometimes when I'm at my dorm I just leave the second monitor. It's very useful to have the console window and other created windows pop up on the secondary monitor while you write code in the other one when debugging
 
3:50 AM
@GamesBrainiac Oh I much liked the story line when leveling (same for SWTOR actually) but when none of my friends were playing it so when I reached max level I dropped it. Online games with no friends are terrible :(
 
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and maybe for some full-screen games and keeping track of other things like chat / mumble / ventrilo
 
Honestly, I just need 2 monitors to work, one for docs, and the other for code, and thats it.
@Borgleader No argument here ;)
 
@ThePhD I'll take a look at the upside down thing too, but i gotta go for a while, laters
 
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Hookay.
 
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Buhbye!
 
3:52 AM
@ScarletAmaranth inb4 hes writing the pixels of his image upside down. That totally never happened to me before >.>
 
@Borgleader yeah I had this problem when I rolled my own bmp, I mis-read the spec (teeheehee, like that has never happened to anyone :P)
laters kids
 
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I'm writing x = 0 and y = 0 to the topleft corner.
 
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Buhbye
 
@ThePhD iirc theres an image format when 0,0 is not the top pixel.
 
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Yeah, but it ain't in-memory rgba 8 per color 32 byte per pixel, that's for sure.
 
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3:55 AM
I'm not writing this out to an image file. It's displayed to me as its raytracing in real time.
 
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Gets rid of the thought that maybe I'm writing / reading images wrong.
 
So youre displaying the framebuffer on a fullscreen quad?
 
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Yes.
 
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DirectX thankfully uses 0,0 as topleft when you do basic projection transformation
 
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OpenGL, on the other hand.................
 
3:58 AM
Ive had a problem in the past where I managed to invert that too =/ you could test that
like, mix half/half your render with a red gradient. if the red gradient is inverted then your code is correct and its displaying upside down.
 
top left origin is retarded
 
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incorrect* ?
 
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@Rapptz It's the convention for many image programs. It keeps it consistent with artists, which is arguably a better end-goal than for mathematicians.
 
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Thankfully, it's editable so when I do things like platform 0,0 refers to the bottom left.
 
maybe this is why artists are bad at math
 
4:00 AM
@ThePhD Well no, the test is meant to determine if its displaying upside down or not. if the gradient comest out correct, then your code is generating the image upside down. if the gradient comes out upside down then its the FSQ displaying the framebuffer upside down and the image is actually correct.
 
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Lol, fuck!
 
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So, there's an assignment due tomorrow about any piece of art that I go to view at the Met.
 
and you didnt go?
 
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I thought I was allowed to use any piece of art between 10,000 BC and 1000 AD.
 
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Turns out it's 10,000 BC and 500 AD. I took video of a piece from 675 AD China.
 
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4:11 AM
I have to throw out this whole essay now.
 
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(: #1 direction reader, it's me.
 
giggles 1 direction
 
@Rapptz I thought the 4th part was out :(
 
it says 2/21/2014 man
I guess you're #2 direction reader
 
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SAVED!
 
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I can pick just one of the exhibitions from the online list and then view it that way.
 
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@Rapptz I don't understand what he's trying to prove.
 
o.o
 
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No faddish hairstyles, dreadlocks, afros, or anything frivolous, they say.
 
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<_____>
 
I just thought tumblr went to their typical "Fucking white people" mantra and it ended up not being the case.
Made me top kek.
 
4:50 AM
well, almost 6 am
time to sleep
night guys
 
night
 
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5:28 AM
Niight
 
5:49 AM
This is hilarious: nature.com/news/…
 
Hi
 
@Nican wow
speaking of research papers, one of my uni teachers had one of his copies, and the copiers used it to get a government grant (a pretty big one)
 
What can we talk about in this chat?
 
How every language that is not C++ is garbage, of course. :P
 
:o
Is this one of those language debate places?
 
5:58 AM
Nah, I do not think any sane human really knows what this room is about.
 

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