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who agrees with me that BattleStar Galactica (new) is probably the best sci-fi tv show ever created to date
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Generally, yeah. SGU beats it in technical terms.
 
I'd say that SGU was awesome but not as awesome as BattleStar Galactica as a whole
if it hadn't been canceled it could have been different, I hate SyFy for that
 
oh I also seem to have found a plasma rifle somewhere
 
Since SGU I don't know any real good sci-fi tv shows... I still am amazed that Revolution is still up and SGU got canceled
> Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected. Every U.S. household with a TV theoretically has a chance to be a part of the sample. The sample is also compared to the general population, and at times Nielsen calls thousands of households to see if their TV sets are on and who is watching.
Does that mean that anyone streaming online not on tv is not considered in the stats?
 
12:33 AM
well Delta Sector took about half an hour.
 
12:52 AM
I -1ed this because I think it contains confusing statements. I don't claim that I know how the Standard should be interpreted, and therefor I wouldn't put an answer up here in which I claim my theories as facts. SO is about facts, not personal theories (and IMO, this isn't a very good theory because it has very few support in the Standard text). — Johannes Schaub - litb 43 secs ago
fight!
 
ow
Sector X is super painful.
did I accidentally go to threat 6 instead of threat 5?
 
1:11 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit SGU looked that good, that's for sure.
That said, it still felt like "Lost on an Ancient ship".
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix If I was getting calls by people asking who's watching TV at my place be creeped out :p
 
why is there no pre-made bash_profile for rainbow colors? :|
 
1:27 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix To be fair, Revolution is pretty awesome atm
 
2:18 AM
@sehe Oh hey, one more lens tutorial today. I actually like this one because it hints at the massive machinery refactoring that lenses are. Quite dense though!
 
2:30 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I'm a diehard fan of B5.
 
2:50 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I dunno. I kinda felt like the show fell apart a bit after the end of the second season.
too much "God did it".
and I especially disliked Starbuck's transformation into a crying little girl
 
user3010322
3:10 AM
Woogly Woogly woo.
 
3:21 AM
I want ravioli
:3
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
I... I think I'm doing this right.
 
you are probably not, sorry
 
user3010322
=[
 
Sankarea is the shit @Mysticial @StackedCrooked
 
3:30 AM
lol
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
worst part: I don't even know why I like it
 
user3010322
@ScarletAmaranth Hah!
 
user3010322
4:24 AM
Question.
 
user3010322
double * float = double, right?
 
yes
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
Perhaps I should make it so float * half = float, isntead of half
 
@ThePhD Is half what I think it is? (16-bit FP?)
 
4:31 AM
@ThePhD yes but no... double * float will indeed promote float but ideally you want something like long double to store that
 
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@MarkGarcia Yeah
 
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@ScarletAmaranth I'm talking just about the end computation: intermedially, it's stored in all kinds of expanded-width types and all.
 
@ThePhD Hm, interesting.
 
user3010322
I'm... not sure if I should create a long_half, though.
 
user3010322
4:32 AM
I mean, really, at that point it's just float <_>
 
long_half? wut
 
user3010322
@melak47 The idea that you can sprinkle modifiers onto Floating point types
 
but long_ is not a modifier :p
 
user3010322
Well, I obviously can't make my own class and then call it long half and expect the implementation to change!
 
@ThePhD The ability to use int type modifiers (like long and unsigned) on UDTs would be very interesting then!
 
user3010322
4:34 AM
@MarkGarcia Would be kinda cool.
 
I usually template it instead
e.g. class_t<unsigned>
 
that
 
user3010322
So you just specialize on unsigned then?
 
user3010322
That's kinda.. ... weird.
 
No
I just do some math based on the type and work it out from there.
I only did it with an integer though, not a decimal
 
user3010322
4:42 AM
Blah.
 
user3010322
I wish I could make a PoD with a constructor. =[
 
user3010322
Buahaha.
 
user3010322
Nice!
 
user3010322
I wish I could make a Primitive PoD that's unionable like the other primitive types, and could be initialized with the syntax half h = some_float; =[
 
user3010322
4:45 AM
But nooo, I have to do
 
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half h;
h = some_float;
 
user3010322
=[[[[ My tears.
 
@ThePhD I think PoDs can have constructors?
 
user3010322
They come un-unionable whereupon I give them a constructor.
 
user3010322
And thusly no longer behave like primitive types. =[
 
4:47 AM
@ThePhD isn't that only default constructors?
 
user3010322
@melak47 If you give it a regular constructor, the class becomes non-default-constructable (it has a constructor -- the language assumes it must be constructed, or not at all).
 
user3010322
Therefore you have to define a default constructor to make it feel like a PoD type. But then you lose unionability.
 
so stop eating so many onions
 
@ThePhD Why not wrap the union?
Let me guess, byte/bit manipulation?
 
besides, why'd you want to use a half type for anything other than packing/unpacking
 
user3010322
4:49 AM
The class itself is not a union: it's just when I try to use it in one, it blows up.
 
user3010322
@melak47 I'm just doing this for completeness. :D
 
user3010322
@Rapptz GCC implements Unrestricted Unions, so I'm not sure that's applicable to MSVC.
 
MSVC tears.
 
user3010322
vOv
 
4:51 AM
Visual C++ is all about appearances.
(puntentional)
 
@ThePhD don't you have a bazillion things already? RVector FVector TVector..what's another half_pod :p
 
user3010322
This was just for making rgba<half> behave a little more friendly-like.
 
how is not having constructors friendly? :E
 
Replacing the default constructor with f() = default; compiles fine in VC++.
 
user3010322
@melak47 I meant moreso compile.
 
user3010322
4:56 AM
@BoniTea For realsies?
 
@BoniTea well yeah, if it's a trivial constructor it's fine
 
Just tried it.
 
@ThePhD what good is a constructor that does nothing?
 
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@melak47 garbage-init. :D
 
._.
 
user3010322
4:58 AM
What's wrong with garbage-init? :c
 
Though, intelliSense does not like it.
 
the garbage
 
user3010322
@BoniTea Compiling with Nov CTP?
 
user3010322
@melak47 Best bits are garbage bits~
 
@ThePhD I um.. not sure what that is. It's just VS2013 for me.
 
user3010322
4:59 AM
Ah.
 
user3010322
Hokay.
 
@ThePhD CTP has =default for move ctors etc, regular default ctor is in RTM
 
user3010322
@melak47 I know, I know, was just wondering if he was using the CTP anyhows.
 
it still works with the ctp :p
I'll let you get back to your garbage herding :)
 
user3010322
Garbage is so nice~
 
5:04 AM
I have a bunch of things open right now.
7
 
user3010322
@BoniTea That seems to work -- what a lovely workaround!
 
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Now I can feel the power!!
 
Xeo
5:37 AM
wuhuu, 7h of sleep \o/
so, I see monads have been discussed again?
 
more xkcd!
 
@Xeo Not sure if it's really "again", or just another part of an ongoing discussion.
 
6:28 AM
The votes-to-character ratio of this man is unbelievable!
 
We need to find out the oldest & youngest person using Stackoverflow ... I wanna C whether there are any 90 yo using SE >_<
 
@sudorm-rfTelkitty I think there's a meta post on that. Let me check.
 
Any luck?
 
@sudorm-rfTelkitty Checking on the queries...
 
mawning
 
6:38 AM
@sudorm-rfTelkitty Best I could find. I might have mistaken on the oldest/youngest specific user.
 
Hm.
Australis looks okay.
I like it.
 
@Rapptz Me too. Though Nightly is currently pretty unstable. I just switched to stable (mainstream release).
I can't believe I've reached the daily vote limit this fast.
 
Haven't crashed in a while.
 
Configuration becomes corrupted sometimes. Only sure-fire way to solve is to reset.
 
I always hated the addon bar.
Always felt awkward to me
Ah... I don't know if it's my addon but this has Chrome's tab behaviour.
Where rather than having to scroll, the tabs get gradually smaller.
 
6:48 AM
@MarkGarcia 1 63 yo, 1 66yo, 1 68 yo but 12 88 years olds?
 
Board game night was fun :)
 
@Rapptz Must be the add-on.
 
Yeah, just disabled it and it was the addon. I like it though, so I'm keeping it.
 
fish pond :D
 
@StackedCrooked Would love to see a train splashing the water through it.
 
user1804599
7:34 AM
widefold
 
JBL
8:11 AM
Good murrning !
 
> Note that despite the LP prefix, LPARAM is not a far pointer to an ARAM. source
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lol
 
@ScarletAmaranth similar here
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion I do not get the joke.
 
user1804599
I am so confused.
 
user1804599
Help.
 
8:24 AM
Just remember your breathing.
 
@TonyTheLion I always kind of assumed they LPARAM and WPARAM were short for "left" and "wight" or something.
3
TIL
 
@jalf lol
@rightfold Look up LP prefix in Win32
 
user1804599
But what is an ARAM?
 
A RAM obviously
 
It has no meaning
 
user1804599
8:28 AM
In that case I do not see how it is funny.
 
well I'm sorry you didn't find it funny
 
@rightfold it is a character in this manga
 
user1804599
ARAM, not HAREM.
 
It's L PARAM, i.e. long (pointer) parameter. But WinAPI has a LP prefix for long pointer too so the joke is supposed to be "a long pointer to A RAM"
 
Xeo
I don't think the 'ARAM' has any significance here, actually
 
8:30 AM
I just thought it was funny someone could think it is an LP (Long Pointer) to an ARAM and not consider that ARAM doesn't make much sense
 
@Rapptz no shit
 
@StackedCrooked I'm explaining for slowfold.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz TIL.
 
aram does have a meaning.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Indeed. I know no shit about the Windows API.
 
user1804599
8:31 AM
POSIX FTW.
 
WinAPI sucks
I use C# instead
 
WinAPI is not too hard.
 
user1804599
That’s what she said.
 
JBL
@StackedCrooked It's just a pain in the ass with its string types :( (At least for me...)
 
@StackedCrooked Casts so easy!
 
JBL
8:34 AM
Yay for LPCSTR.
 
user1804599
LP C-string?
 
JBL
Yep.
 
user1804599
I want LPACDC.
 
and don't forget the lovely LPCTSTR.
 
@rightfold Actually, "C" there means const.
 
JBL
8:36 AM
These types are just LPARGH, really.
 
user1804599
LPSWITCHTOUNIX
 
user1804599
So you can enjoy creat, mknod and lchown.
 
JBL
I read that lclown.
Onto the 3rd coffee it is, then.
 
user1804599
$ alias clown=chown
$ clown clown:clown ~clown
 
It's all fun and games, until you have to do audio ;_;
 
user1804599
8:43 AM
Audio works just fine on my Unix box.
 
user1804599
iTunes FTW.
 
iTunes is terrible
 
user1804599
iTunes is great
 
JBL
So uh yeah, I found about Snippets insertion in VS.
I feel like the World's #1 idiot.
 
Sometimes, feeling can be true
 
JBL
8:46 AM
God the time that could've saved me.
 
@JBL bout time you found out
 
JBL
@StackedCrooked I searched about it after using @Rapptz Sublimetext plugin.
"Uh, that exists in VS too !"
 
Snippetsssss
I have a lot
 
user1804599
ExistentialQuantification is wonderful.
 
A lot of IDEs have snippets.
 
JBL
8:50 AM
@StackedCrooked Hey wait, I thought you were talking about finding the feature. You're mean :(
 
heheh
 
user1804599
9:13 AM
 
@rightfold bwahaha
 
@rightfold your heart grows cold if you love php
 
user1804599
Hence it’s blue.
 
@Rapptz You mean, a lot of them are broken
@rightfold wazzamajoke
 
Not in sublime text
 
9:20 AM
(snippets; broken) + bad_pun_logic
@Rapptz I can\t be arsed. I like to decide what I type. Same with intellisense, I guess.
Last week I installed YouCompleteMe again. Was amazed at how well it worked for all of maybe 10 minutes. Then quickly got annoyed that it didn't complete what I wanted. Uninstalled when it conflicted with a (irony:) snippet plugin (as well as some other plugins, but I didn't keep track of them).
(explanation: I use a snippet just for answering Spirit questions on SO. I have literally 1 snippet, that just sets up a simple empty grammar test bed + makefile. Actually, it should just be a macro.)
 
YouCompleteMe looks cool
I'm jealous
I have no autocomplete at all
 
It does. If you are "like that" it's probably the bee's knees
I disabled it. Vim's completion (just completing from surrounding text/open buffers) works plenty fine for me
 
I want autocomplete but clang doesn't work on Windows.
 
And it's a lot more predictable. Especially if code is in flux (i.e. it doesn't compile)
 
JBL
Uh oh, so what does "Vector iterator not decrementable"mean ? I DON'T DECREMENT IT !
Silly!
 
9:25 AM
@JBL You accidentally a word
 
JBL
Indeed.
 
Well I have that basic completion too.
 
@JBL is mean?
 
It's not really helpful for dealing with member functions and what not
 
@Rapptz I love it. It doesn't interfere, always works (even when writing emails) etc.
 
JBL
9:25 AM
Fuck broken english.
 
It's pretty meh.
 
@Rapptz I can deal with my member s just fine.
 
If the file is open, yeah.
Otherwise not really.
 
@JBL maybe you are a - b somewhere?
 
More like X/Y
Also, vector iterators are by definition decrementable
@JBL Maybe the iterator is const (not to const). Like, what happens if it's an rvalue
 
JBL
9:27 AM
@StackedCrooked It's on a line where I just store a vector's rbegin() :x
 
@JBL yawn. post SSCCE. On Stack Overflow
 
JBL
Oh don't worry, I'll eventually find out.
:)
The error message just sounds retardedly inappropriate.
(That is, until I find out why, and then my rant will be inapropriate).
 
@JBL reverse iterators are funny
 
JBL
I did the exact same thing somewhere else in the code and it never complained!
 
morning
 
JBL
9:32 AM
Hullo !
 
@JBL You're either using MSVC (your fault) or it is your fault :)
 
JBL
Hehe.
 
@JBL You're wrong
@DeadMG you too
 
JBL
He's wrong too ?
 
9:38 AM
lol. He's the puppy, what do you think?
 
JBL
Currently, that I have no idea why the fuck my code doesn't work.
Okay, 5 minutes insulting MSVC then I get to fix it for good.
 
while (A() == B()) the order of evaluation is well defined, isn't it?
 
Nope
 
Xeo
well-defined as unspecified :)
 
fuck
 
9:41 AM
lol
@Purrformance no time
 
okay thanks, I thought I was going insane
 
JBL
You still are.
 
We didn't rule that out
 
flebflebflebflebflebflebflebfleb
 
JBL
See ?
Fuck, auto didn't solve it. There must be a real problem then.
 
9:45 AM
auto has a tendency to /create/ problems with proxy-types
 
So, it turns out the compiler is evaluating B() before A(), which is the opposite of what I need. Any work around (aside moving the evaluation of A() on a previous line? :( )
 
Yeah, move it to it's own line :| Or wank some lambdas
 
C++03 :awee:
 
you've pretty much got to move it to it's own line.
 
fuck this language
 
9:46 AM
all the other solutions are simply more over-engineered.
 
but I was factoring several cases into one!
oh well
 
while ([](){ auto const& tmp = A(); return tmp == B(); }())
{
}
@Purrformance There. Soooooo pretty
 
lol
 
Rewriting the Little Mermaid: Little fat mermaid swam to the surface to watch the world above, she rose up to the surface, saw a ship with a handsome prince, and fell in love with him from a distance. A great storm hit, the prince nearly drowned, he was saved by an old whale which inadvertently blew its nostril and the stream of water threw the prince on to the beach. Unfortunate for the crowned dude, the little fat mermaid was also blew away by the same whale - only to land on the prince.
At first, the prince was nearly scared to death, thought the little fat black mermaid was a seal. But the black mermaid spoke and told the prince she got too much sun tan & ate too much seafood buffets
 
You're a sick person
 
9:50 AM
Of course you would know ...
 
Not really any worse than the original little mermaid
Story wise it's awful though.
 
It's the same thing, but catering for her fat fetish.
 
lol
 
Xeo
@Purrformance make it so the order of evaluation doesn't matter? :p
 
{ A(), B() }!
also, 5 AM.
Should probably sleep
 
9:57 AM
@Rapptz And exactly how does this evaluate the loop condition?
 
Xeo
if(let b = B() in A() == b) // teehee
 
I'm joking.
 
@Xeo erm... did you just hard code the wrong order? That's what he's already got :/
 
Xeo
if(eq{B(), A()}) would actually work
@sehe meh
I blame the non-functioning painkillers
 
@Xeo that's true. Sadly, std::equal_to<>({A(), B()}) isn't quite legal.
 

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