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4:00 PM
@DeadMG that's irrelevant to what I said
 
Oh right, I mean minimum, not 1 :P
 
see also Troll
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, it's not. You cannot replace a 50d4 roll with a 10d20 roll.
 
@jalf What are you trolling about this time, jalf?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but you can replace 2d4 with hypothetical d16
 
4:00 PM
50d4 has a much smaller standard deviation.
@BartekBanachewicz Erm, what?
 
In probability theory, the central limit theorem (CLT) states that, given certain conditions, the mean of a sufficiently large number of independent random variables, each with a well-defined mean and well-defined variance, will be approximately normally distributed. The central limit theorem has a number of variants. In its common form, the random variables must be identically distributed. In variants, convergence of the mean to the normal distribution also occurs for non-identical distributions, given that they comply with certain conditions. In more general probability theory, a central...
 
@GamesBrainiac A language for describing and computing dice rolls?
 
@jalf There was a language for that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes roll a number from 1 to 16. First dice is roll / 4; Second is roll % 4
 
@GamesBrainiac maybe you should follow the link I posted? :p
 
4:01 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So to get sum of 2d4 from d16 you have to n = d16(); return n / 4 + n % 4;
 
@jalf It was rhetorical :P I mean, there seems to be a language for everything. Maybe its the predecessor to "There's an app for that"
 
@BartekBanachewicz That will not approximate 2d4.
 
@DeadMG how so?
 
Anybody else think this graphic style looks cool?
 
4:03 PM
@Rapptz This is going to be costly.
 
@Pawnguy7 it's called pixelart
 
@BartekBanachewicz >implying pixel art doesn't have its own style
@Pawnguy7 Looks okay.
 
I would argue that even pixel art has its own style. Or theme, perhaps.
 
It does.
 
@Pawnguy7 Thats it? And all this time, I was waiting for the rest of the picture to load :P
 
4:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Er, actually, it might. But that won't go any further for hand-rolling die because you would need exponentially more.
 
@Rapptz well, I know very little about PA. I know about a few degrees of isometrical style, dithering patterns... and that's about it
 
if you wanted to roll 50d4 with such a method you would need a d2^(100)
 
If Pixel Art didn't have its own style then how would we get the huge amount of unique looking games on SNES and Genesis?
 
@GamesBrainiac Yes, I stole it off of a banner sig in a forum. Anyway, though, I could totally see a game that looks like that.
 
@DeadMG or d64^(something) :)
 
4:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Erm, that's the same. A single die is a single die...
 
@Rapptz hey, I didn't know what he's referring to in particular.
 
Perhaps you meant something-d64?
 
If you had to buy a graphics card, which company would you buy it from? ATI or nVidia?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah right I misread it
 
Do you mean AMD?
 
4:06 PM
@GamesBrainiac Right now, it really depends on what games you want to play with that graphics card. On average they're about tied, but in any specific game, it can vary quite a bit.
 
@GamesBrainiac nVidia or Intel (hrhrhr)
 
@Rapptz Yes.
 
ATI hasn't existed in forever
I'd get an nVidia card anyway.
 
Stop calling people old!
 
I deny the existence of AMD pretty much too
 
4:07 PM
eh
they're virtually nonexistent as a CPU vendor
but as a GPU vendor they're still quite competitive
 
For the record, I did deny it before I started working here
 
@DeadMG Really? If you wanted to play RTS games?
 
Should Tuple<T> cover both adl::get<I>(std::declval<Lvalue<T>>()) and adl::get<I>(std::declval<Rvalue<T>>()), or just adl::get<I>(std::declval<T>())? Latter would mean that you could have U such that Tuple<U&&> holds but Tuple<U&> doesn't, or vice-versa.
 
@GamesBrainiac Specific game. Like one title. Or engine.
 
@BartekBanachewicz A game like Starcraft II
 
4:08 PM
@DeadMG unless they get their drivers working, no, they aren't
 
@GamesBrainiac As Bartek said, you need to check the benchmarks for each specific game you have in mind.
 
@GamesBrainiac blizzard is optimizing both, I guess. But I would still go for nvidia because drivers
 
@BartekBanachewicz I like nVidia more too. AMD seems to give me a lot of trouble with drivers.
 
Anyway, SC2 is going to run pretty nice on Haswells I guess
 
I've never really had a problem with either ATi, AMD, or nVidia drivers
and yes, I've owned ATi (rather than AMD) cards.
 
4:09 PM
so if you don't need ultra high settings you might as well buy an i7
 
yeah, buy an i7 as your GPU. nice
2
 
:)
no, really, new generation will be quite fast
not as fast as NVidia, but for causal gaming, more than enough.
it will get more interesting WRT ValleyView (new Atom) chips, I guess
 
you're ugly
sorry
I'm just in one of those moods
bartek, wanna try playing catan with me online in a couple hours?
 
catan as in settlers?
 
yes
I found a website which purports to permit you to play against friends online for free
 
4:14 PM
Ah. I love that game. Nobody wants to play it with me though.
 
I know that defining bartek as a "friend" is a stretch, but, y'know
5
 
@DeadMG sure. We should get 1-2 more people though
 
Pawnguy will play with us
 
I think there was one rule I wasn't certain about. I don't recall what it was.
 
4:15 PM
@Pawnguy7 hey hey
@Pawnguy7 there are official rules. Also computer version will likely validate everything
so, I am meeting my GF around 8pm, so I dunno, when do we want to start?
 
what timezone is that
 
well, a couple hours from now would be 19:15 GMT, which would be 20:15 CEST, if I am not mistaken.
 
Yes. Anyway. If, for example, you have a house somewhere, can I... build a road "through" it? I don't know why not, but I was never really sure.
 
@Pawnguy7 Yes.
 
4:16 PM
Uff, feeling exhausted.
 
if each area of the game is a hexagon, then houses occupy the vertices, and roads occupy the edges.
houses don't block roads unless they're the opponent's houses
 
That was what I meant.
 
ah
 
@DeadMG it would be 19:15 GMT+1 (Also called British Summer Tme), which is indeed 20:15 CEST (+2)
 
then I'm pretty sure you can't build through an opponent's house
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I have to go waste an hour and a half listening to how much weight 40 other people lost this week.
 
4:18 PM
Ok. I looked in the rulebook thing that came with it, but never knew which it was.
 
@DeadMG what?
 
speaking of which
I must evacuate soon
I'll be back in like... a couple of hours
 
I will be online around 2200CEST
 
that can work for me
pawnguy?
Settlers of Catan
 
Um...
 
Ken
4:20 PM
Do smart-pointers have a overhead? I've read so many opinions I don't know what's true anymore
 
yes
 
Probably pretty free most times in the next ten hours, but no guarantees.
 
@Ken define "overhead". Can have some in some situations
 
what is this website @DeadMG
 
4:21 PM
well
I will be back in a couple of hours
 
Ken
@BartekBanachewicz Generally speaking. For example, would I use them in embedded-systems?
 
Ken
@ScottW Haha awesome answer!
Alrighty, thanks a lot guys ^^
 
That face...
Wait. Would this be the base game?
 
4:24 PM
uh wat
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Amazing... "Xeo" wasn't already taken for once.
 
I have never played the variants.
 
Office safety says that I shouldn't talk on the phone on the stairs
 
Use texting then.
 
also if I need to use both hands I can't use stairs
because I can't grab the handrail
Also -5 User was removed ...
 
4:30 PM
I'm back fuckers
apparently everyone left :(
 
I am tahing EHS course
 
or whatever it's called
Health and Safety
 
oh
:(
Stomach flu?
Nein
Wo hast du Deutsch gelernt?
 
Ich hat.
 
4:37 PM
@ScottW ... have you been involved with DeadMG, if you catch my drift?
 
dat drift
 
user142019
 
user142019
I wrote a program that stores files into BMPs. :>
 
Ouch :( (If you mean illness related.)
 
@rightfold is that supposed to be the file?
 
4:38 PM
@rightfold hey, don't do it like that. Load an image, and store it in 3 least significant bits :) That way it will look like a normal image.
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion that's the source code stored in a BMP. :P
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz huh?
 
@rightfold heheh
 
user142019
If you open the BMP in Notepad you can read it.
 
4:39 PM
@rightfold allow user to give you an image, and store your hidden data in least significant bits
@rightfold ah, well that might be a bit different usage then
 
:s Well, don't try and mix fluids with DeadMG, that can't improve the situation.
 
data += b'\0' * (64 - len(data) % 64) heh
 
I've been putting off doing the dishes for the last 3 days
perhaps I should just do them this time
:/
 
user142019
Let's try a large file.
 
@TonyTheLion Buy (or hire) a dishwasher.
 
4:41 PM
@JerryCoffin I would get a dishwasher, if I had space to put it
I have only a small flat
 
@TonyTheLion damn -- edited too quickly. I have many (large) "falts" (at least according to my wife).
 
hmmmm
you should debug yourself
:P
 
@TonyTheLion Probably. Unfortunately, most of them boil down to "you're male and I'm in a bad mood right now". The rest leave out the "you're male" part.
 
It'll be interesting to see how much money I'll be spending on fuel every month now that I have my full driving license
@JerryCoffin oh I see
 
@TonyTheLion Do you have a car already?
 
4:44 PM
@JerryCoffin yep
 
I don't have a licence yet
 
@TonyTheLion The paradoxical rule is that the better its fuel economy, the more you'll spend on fuel.
 
And I don't really see myself getting any soon
 
hahah
 
okay, time to go home
 
4:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm almost 27 (next month in fact) and the only reason I only got it now, is because I really had a need to get it now, until now I really never had that need, so I didn't bother
 
C++ How to Program (5th Edition) [Paperback]
Harvey & Paul) Deitel & Deitel (Author) ... one of the best books for Beginner to Intermdiate.
 
@AnoopVerma is it on the list? if not, is it really good (C++11?)? if not, kill it with fire.
 
user142019
UNMATCHED PARENTHESES BURN IT WITH FIRE
 
Anyone got a movie tip? Seen most of the recent "hits".
 
I did not see
it
 
4:47 PM
@DavidKron Office Space
 
user142019
@DavidKron Saw VI
 
> You may use the documentation under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License version 1.3, as published by the Free Software Foundation. Alternatively, you may use the documentation in accordance with the terms contained in a written agreement between you and Digia.
 
ah .. let me
 
wut.
 
user142019
 
4:47 PM
lol
 
@rightfold thats awesome
 
@TonyTheLion Seriously -- people who care about that sort of thing have done studies. When (for example) somebody buys a car with better fuel economy, they drive more -- and not just enough more that they continue to spend the same amount on fuel. They drive enough more that they nearly always use more fuel.
 
I love that movie
 
user142019
Top comment:
 
user142019
> This is the greatest movie I have ever seen.
 
4:48 PM
@rightfold yeah
 
user142019
We should make a C++: The Movie.
 
no I do not see that book
 
@JerryCoffin I believed you. Nevertheless, I'll still measure my own use, and see.
 
@rightfold You mean like Hackers?
 
@rightfold Lol hes swedish right?
 
user142019
4:49 PM
@DavidKron I have no idea.
 
user142019
Erlang is from Ericsson, so probably.
 
Yeah lol hes swenglish is so clear lol
 
@JerryCoffin I've heard of that in other areas (I think the 'people spend more as long as they feel like they're buying discounted goods' version is one of the more well known), but fuel economy is a first :v
 
@LucDanton that's why I don't buy cheap or discounted stuff
it's a trap
I need to take a big shit
lolwat
 
Tony has just announced to the world so loudly that he needed to take a shit that I woke up to type this.
 
4:52 PM
@LucDanton At least in my experience, women fall into that trap particularly badly. My wife quite routinely talks about how much she "saved" by buying crap on sale (despite the minor detail that most of it is stuff we don't need -- and in a lot of case even she doesn't seem to really want it, but if it's a good enough sale, she feels compelled to buy it).
 
What I find counter-intuitive, unlike the discount version, is that I kinda assume that people have a set distance to cover in their daily routine. Going out of one's way to cover more distance 'because it doesn't cost me as much' boggles my mind.
 
@Mysticial ahahahah :)
 
Then again, I'm not a car person.
 
that's why you get along with Robot so well.
it's all starting to make sense now :)
 
Meh android lounge has no image upload
 
4:54 PM
Anyone read the Vorkosigan Saga?
 
I saw that someone parked their private jet nearby and wanted to share a photo
 
@LucDanton I doubt it comes much from daily routine -- but for other "stuff"...
 
@JerryCoffin I don't get the quotes :( Again, not a car person -- to me it's just a point A <-> point B device.
 
@GamesBrainiac No. Nobody has. Even you haven't.
 
@JerryCoffin lol. Just wanted to ask, since a friend recommended it to me.
 
@GamesBrainiac All I know of it is that TvTropes can't stop waxing lyrical about it.
 
Xeo
No, no. Name lookup is easy. It's just a simple little formula.James McNellis 26 mins ago
 
@LucDanton I just mean, for example, somebody says "Let's meet at this bar." Instead of thinking "that's too far" and coming up with someplace closer to home, they just hop in the car and go.
 
Xeo
Wow.
Just wow.
 
I see.
 
4:57 PM
@LucDanton Really now. Loads of people have been pushing me towards it, its just that its so old, and the audio recording sucks.
:P
 
@Xeo Whoa.
 
@xeo I was reading official Terra paper and it has a lot of similar equations for Lua
 
user142019
Heh. This is what happens when I convert the BMP to 97% quality JPEG and back. gist.github.com/rightfold/073c5c94e83ef58c54ac
 
@GamesBrainiac Well, keeping in mind the subject matter of TvTropes, I think it would reflect more the literary value of the work than whether e.g. it will leave you hanging to the edge of your seat (<- not an idiom often applied to books but bear with me and my limited capabilities).
 
user142019
If I would do this with Perl instead of Python, it would still work.
 
4:59 PM
Lol
 

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