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10:00 PM
@CatPlusPlus film industry looks awesome, just being on a film set would be awesome
 
Qt is GPL
 
bye bye, sweetheart, lots of good times together, but our relationship just couldn't work
@kbok I meant QTCreator. Also, Qt is L GPL
 
@Crowz Don't confuse making films with film industry
 
well, if it's LGPL it can be GPL too :)
 
Every industry is shit
 
10:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus and don't confuse "that looks like it'd be awesome" with "that is actually awesome" either :)
 
the film industry is where you work a lot and get paid peanuts and get fired at the end of the production
 
@CatPlusPlus well then, making film of any sort would be awesome hah... if it was possible to get into, that's totally what I'd go for.
 
Only thing I dislike about Qt Creator are the crappy watchpoints.
 
@jalf Yeah
 
@ScottW why not?
 
10:02 PM
@Rapptz since it's OS, it can be changed!
 
It's impossible to get into haha
 
@BartekBanachewicz GDB issue if anything.
 
@BartekBanachewicz but until someone actually changes it, that doesn't count for much. ;)
 
Yes, there are no new filmmakers or actors or anything since 1960
 
I'm typing this at my drawing desk where I am making storyboards :o
 
10:04 PM
Too late it's impossible to get in now
 
@Crowz said the guy who is finding it impossible to find a programming job. ;)
 
@jalf I was rather saying that I could be interested in changing it
 
Every industry is impossible to get into unless you (1) want to, and (2) try
 
@Crowz that ^
 
@jalf if it's hard to find a job in programming, it must be really hard to get a job in something that is that popular
 
10:05 PM
@Crowz So you're not gonna try?
 
@Crowz programming is popular, dude
 
Everything is popular
 
Quit whining and at least try to do what you want to do. No one is going to give you a job just out of pity
 
All industries have been hermetically sealed for years
 
since when is it hard to find a job in programming
 
10:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not really, it seems that when I went to college, only about 10 people from my graduating class went into engineering or compsci.
 
If you want to make movies, go and find a job in the film industry!
 
my old dying dog (poor thing) could get a programmer job if she wanted to
 
Only 10 people in my class did something therefore that's not popular
 
everyone in my class who failed to find a job they liked ended up as java programmers
 
I did and failed statistics 101!
 
10:07 PM
@ScottW we all have that one friend who does java
 
I have boring shit to do
It's boring I don't want to do it
 
Hey, java programmers are people too
 
Someone do it for me
 
except my dog who is a dog
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus don't do it.
 
user142019
10:07 PM
@CatPlusPlus ask on stack overflow "DO MY HOMEWORK FOR ME I WILL PAY MONEY".
 
Project spec and 3 crappy Android assignments
Fuck you I'm not paying anything
 
@ScottW okay, but not a lot of people want to do anything scientific and mathematical to begin with. Then of those who do, a lot fail out or transfer. So there's not a whole lot. On the other hand, who DOESN'T want to do film?
 
Slave away and I might be grateful
 
user142019
Slaves of Fear
 
10:09 PM
 <generatorscript binary="generate.pl">
     <argument value="--class-name=%ClassName%"/>
     <argument value="--project-name=%ProjectName%"/>
     <argument value="--header-suffix=%CppHeaderSuffix%" omit-empty="true"/>
     <argument value="--source-suffix=%CppSourceSuffix%" omit-empty="true"/>
     <argument value="--description=%Description%" omit-empty="true" write-file="true"/>
 </generatorscript>
 
@ScottW public static void main(String[] args) { ?
 
hey, that looks really nice.
I just need a Lua or Python script to generate SConstructs
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz Is that Maven? :v
 
@Crowz does it matter how hard it is to get into? People get into films all the time regardless of the difficulty. Where do you think actors and directors and every-fucking-else who make up the film industry? No matter how hard it is, you won't get in unless you try. And if you really honestly think that's what you want to do, then go and fucking do it.
 
@Zoidberg it's QtCreator Project Wizard template
 
user142019
10:10 PM
Oh lol.
 
@ScottW But 10 people in my class!
 
user142019
Looks like Maven. It also uses retarded formats for its configuration.
 
it's only used to generate projects/files/classes whatnot, so however
retarded that might seem, it's quite necessary
 
You might fail, but what have you got to lose? Worst case, you end up in the same place you'd be if you don't even try. Best case? You get the career of your dreams
 
@Crowz I don't.
Fuck films.
 
10:11 PM
I don't want either fuck cameras
 
@Crowz I don't
 
@Crowz Also, I don't want to do film
 
MY STATISTICS
 
user142019
Yes, a Potion Lore trailer.
 
I want to try out its debugger
let's debug a hello world
 
10:12 PM
I want to make Internet videos but with no cameras screw that shit
 
I've directed a short (25min) movie that won an amateur high-school movie festival
And that's the end of my movie career
 
But that's impossible nobody can make a film other people can see
IMPOSSIBLE
 
I did a play in Mandarin chinese once. That's the end of my acting career hah
 
@BartekBanachewicz nice
 
10:14 PM
and QTC is at least decent enought to capture stdio of the program
not as retarded as VS spawning new console :/
 
I played the main role in a short movie too, but it never got out
 
@kbok I've got a pretty nice glass cube as a prize
 
Also some roles in music videos
 
Every time I go to @R.MartinhoFernandes 's blog I imagine the song Danger Zone from the movie Top Gun.
 
so much for hollywood
 
10:15 PM
Capturing stdout is not enough for interactive console apps, because Windows console subsystem is fucked up in entirety
 
dude making music videos would be so awesome
 
(And redirecting stdin)
 
lol that FakeVim
it's so funky
It's weird. I am falling in love with a fucking IDE.
 
@ScottW I don't know any musicians.
 
:lol:
 
user142019
10:16 PM
@Crowz wat
 
@ScottW can you compile shit?
 
@Zoidberg well I sure as hell can't make music
 
user142019
@Crowz you should go outside more.
 
@Crowz meh
 
Oh ugh I have assignment for Russian class too
 
user142019
10:16 PM
@Crowz how is that related to knowing musicians?
 
user142019
@ScottW comPILE OF POO
 
Get copyright strikes
 
@Crowz That's the spirit! Don't do anything you like, because they all require overcoming some obstacle!
2
 
user142019
 
Nah kidding if you don't try to monetise and acknowledge Content ID claims then it should be fine
 
10:18 PM
@Zoidberg you should take a look at QTC brace highlighting. I think you'd like it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :effort:
 
@Zoidberg lol
that's uh, tasteless
 
It is.
 
Xeo
@ScottW The twist: It was already photoshopped, s/ck/de
 
10:22 PM
what the fuck. "Go to Definition" in QTC works in split-second
I was so used to it taking ages in VS
...
 
@ScottW I'm trying to think of a situation where this image is at least slightly relevant
Probably not
 
Xeo
Hm, this is bad. I forgot to turn Wifi off on my mobile phone, and the battery died. Now it won't charge for whatever reason.
 
user142019
But you did get charged for the Wi-Fi.
 
Xeo
I hope there's enough juice on there to wake me up tomorrow...
 
Leave it plugged in for a while it'll catch on
 
Xeo
10:24 PM
@CatPlusPlus I left it plugged in for 3 hours already
And when I turn it on, it shows no signs of charging / being charged
 
user142019
It's broken.
 
user142019
Try Nokia.
 
Xeo
Tried all that
 
Your charger/battery/both suck
 
Xeo
lol
 
user142019
10:25 PM
class Nokia {
public:
    ~Nokia() = delete;
};
 
Xeo
It was working fine before. :<
@ScottW Okay, that worked. Lounge<C++> - saving your job.
 
Thumbsup.
.....
Wat.
 
user142019
Use MongoDB. It's so agile and web scale.
 
That was the biggest direct-to-eyeball shot of Bullshittiness I've ever seen. o.0
 
user142019
> Lets abandon transactions, consistency, durability and pin our mission crititcal data to a table and give it a night it will never forget.
 
10:30 PM
my repo has 12 C files and 1 python file, and it says that the repo is 38% python
 
user142019
@Crowz it looks at file size.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Are you watching that again?
 
user142019
@Xeo :D
 
user142019
 
Wooo.
My loader for models is back to working again. :3c
And it's nice and compact~
 
10:34 PM
@Zoidberg ooo fancy. I guess I just don't see how a 12 line python program vs 12 other programs is 38% python. Python files must be huge
 
Even large 2000000+ vertex models can all only have 1 index and 1 vertex buffer and fancy maths to keep them intact. <3
I can even draw models that exceed the GraphicsDevice.MaxPrimitives limit!
 
Xeo
Man, I have an unbelievably hard time finding a good example for how bad passing function templates currently is.
 
?
 
@ThePhD wth are you doing with 2 million vertices in a model
 
Xeo
Examples for my proposal
 
10:35 PM
Passing function templates?
 
Xeo
ye
 
user142019
With template templates?
 
@Borgleader Saving the world, of course!
 
user142019
I'm confused. Help.
 
@Xeo Explain pl0x? <3
 
Xeo
10:36 PM
I meant like std::bind(foo<T, U, V>, ...);
The need to specify T, U, V
 
Oooh.
 
user142019
OIC.
 
@CatPlusPlus I have an android smart phone. Since I usually keep it under my pillow so I never have to deal with it, I can debug your Android stuff if you need me to. Just lemme know. <3
 
Ell
Boost asio's handlers can get long :3 but I dont think I understand the request
 
uwhwh
that debugger is, um
I don't require much
but that looks not much better than Dev-C++ :/
 
user142019
10:40 PM
@Ell epoll FTW.
 
did anybody bother to read "static if considered" I did but i dont know enough about lang to see if bjarne is wrong or not... So who here is Team Andrei, who is Team Bjarne.... :P
 
Xeo
I don't think there's a right or wrong on that debate
That said, Bjarne does have some good points.
 
@NoSenseEtAl "dont know enough about lang to see if bjarne is wrong or not" so uh, you shouldn't actually be concerned, I guess
 
Xeo
Guys, gimme some nice template from the stdlib
 
@BartekBanachewicz well after it is standard Ill have to be concerned... now Im preconcerned :P
 
Ell
10:48 PM
Hmm
Std tuple
:P
 
What Bjarne proposes instead of static if?
 
Xeo
Currently, nothing
 
So he doesn't recognise the need or what's the debate here
 
@CatPlusPlus read the static if considered paper... basicaly he hates it with passion
 
> The feature provides a single syntax with three distinct semantics, depending on the context of use.
Context-sensitive syntax?! IN C++?!?!?!?
 
Xeo
10:51 PM
The syntax isn't context sensitive
the semantics are
@Ell Yeah, std::tuple functions seems to be about the only template stuff that is not algorithms. I'm having the hardest of times finding a good example.
 
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has anyone played with static if in D... AFAIK Andrei Loves it with a capital L
 
Xeo
Okay, any ideas from Boost?
 
@Xeo basic_*? They're not very complicated though
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Ah, I'm not after class templates
 
10:54 PM
@kbok zomg
 
Xeo
I'm after function templates, for passing them around
 
Ell
Besides bind
 
Xeo
Rather, as arguments of bind. I want to provide an atleast half-believable example.
 
Eh that static if paper is too long I don't care
 
Ell
std::transform
 
10:56 PM
@Doma I've been going through the DX and DX11 tags. I'm not sure how you could stand it. =[
 
Ell
Meh idk
 
Xeo
@Ell range algorithm :/
 
Ell
What is your goal? to show why passing template functions is unwieldy?
I don't really know what its all a out
 
@Mysticial SSE! :
 
Xeo
@Ell yes
 
11:04 PM
0
Q: MS Visual Studio 2008 + SSE + x64 + O2 incorrect results

MikoszI wrote simple raytracer using MS VS 2008 (SP1) and SSE intrinsics. When I turn O2 optimization (for x86 platform) it speeds up 3 times. Obviously I would like to use it for x64 too. Unfortunately for x64 it causes some strange problems. I narrowed it to small piece of code. Let's take folowing ...

 
tl;dr
I'm watching Anime right now. :)
 
Xeo
Which one?
 
Shingeki no Kyojin
 
Xeo
Ah, I still need to watch that
I had Suisei no Gargantia and Hentai Ouji for dinner, though. Fun times
 
Ell
I hate to say it Xeo, but if you can't think of a theoretical example of it, finding an actual use case is going to be even harder :S
 
Xeo
11:08 PM
I have tons of actual usage, but those require knowledge that I don't want to assume, so I'm trying to find a good example with pure stdlib, but it seems I'm failing
Guess I'll go with bind and tuple functions after all
 
Ell
Oh fair enough then
I'm gonna sleep now anyway, night all!
 
Xeo
night
 
user142019
I am extremely bored.
 
Xeo
    // a
    std::vector<int> vi{ /* ... */ };
    std::vector<std::string> vs{ /* ... */ };
    std::vector<std::tuple<int, std::string>> vt;

    std::transform(vi.begin(), vi.end(), vs.begin(), std::back_inserter(vt),
                   []std::make_tuple);

    // b (assumes a)
    std::vector<float> vf{ /* ... */ };
    std::vector<std::tuple<int, std::string, float>> vt2;
    using namespace std::placeholders;

    // transforms the elements of vf to a single-element tuple,
    // and passes that plus the elements from vt to std::tuple_cat
2
This will have to do.
 
user142019
11:26 PM
So many hipsters on Instagram.
 
Xeo
Oh gawd, who's crazy enough to star that
 
Everyone in this room I'm sure.
 
how do I stop being lame?
 
You don't.
 
user142019
My beard is growing back.
 
user142019
11:29 PM
It looks great.
 
user142019
And it's 17° outside!
 
100*
 
@Xeo wth is this starrred... I dont even understand what it does
 
Xeo
std::vector<std::function<void(int)>> v{ /* ... */ };
using std::placeholders::_1;
std::for_each(v.begin(), v.end(), std::bind([]operator(), _1, 42));
This is also pretty good, I think
@Borgleader It's commented! :(
 
user142019
I don't understand it either, but I starred it because Xeo complained about it having a star.
 
Xeo
11:31 PM
lol
 
user142019
That's not funny at all.
 
@Xeo so youre combining vectors of stuff into a vector of tuples... why?
 
Xeo
@Borgleader Just as an example
for(auto& f : v) f(42);
maybe the []operator() example isn't so good after all
 
user142019
Crab.
 
user142019
11:35 PM
I have a test at eleven and I should sleep.
 
Xeo
Oh, 1:30 already.. yeah, I should sleep too
 
user142019
FUCK FACEBOOK
 
user142019
Why do Windows Nederland's posts appear in my news feed when I don't even like them.
 
user142019
I should delete Facebook account. It's terrible.
 
user142019
I don't want no ads of fake MacBooks by Asus.
 
11:43 PM
y u no adblockplus?
 
user142019
I do use AdBlock but it's a sponsored post. AB doesn't detect it.
 
i dont see sponsored posts
 
> StackOverlow
lol
 
Xeo
Really?
Oh wow, what a typo
Fixed, thanks.
 
user142019
11:50 PM
"Stack Overflow" don't forget the space. :x
 
Xeo
added
 
user142019
Well, time to get my ass into bed and sleep.
 
user142019
Annoy y'all tomorrow!
 
Xeo
G'night
Miep, revision of the proposal sent to Herb & Clark, let's hope they use that instead of the first revision for discussions :s
 
@Xeo... do you have opinions on 2 things I would like to see in C++:1) pattern matching... 2)pragma for tail-recursion like scala has it ( you require compiler to make function below tail recursive so you cant get stack overflow)
I guess pattern matching can be switch ( myvector.size()) :P
 
Xeo
11:59 PM
Sorry, will get back to you tomorrow, I really have to go to sleep now :s
 

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