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6:00 PM
Oh, they chase a ball on the grass. How fascinating.
 
Take away our technology and their chasing of balls around the stadium suddenly loses financial support.
 
@CatPlusPlus Because of excitement, because of beautiful play. There are many things
 
There are many ads, too.
 
What's the deal with just one ball?
There are like, 22 of them
GIVE THEM ALL A FUCKING BALL
So they can all play together.
And be happy and shit.
 
Playing sports has a potential of being fun.
Watching? Nope.
 
6:02 PM
Cat Plus Plus doesn't want to play professionally because they couldn't fit his IQ on the back of the dress.
 
Funnest part is making fun of commenters saying stupid crap.
It's like they don't even think.
 
They don't think. :Đ
 
If you see other people perform a certain action then it activates the same regions of the brain that are required to perform the action yourself. So the performer and observer are in some way connected. I believe that this connection underlies the fascination for sports.
Just a Friday theory.
 
Anyway, the sooner Euro is over, the sooner my city is safer and all.
 
Also, meat.
 
6:04 PM
Is visual studio 2012 vs11 :D ? wtf :D ?
 
Visual Studio and :D don't go well together in one sentence.
 
2012? The world is ending!
 
11 is internal version number, not the year.
 
Visual Tudio
 
Audial Studio
 
6:05 PM
I would say that everyone enjoys watching somebody that is really good at something that they are personally fond of
 
Visual Turdio.
 
Formal name ought to be Visual Studio 2012, 11 just designates version (like VS9, VS10 etc.)
 
It's like watching someone coding.
 
That's ... confusing. Oh well. Thanks.
 
Visual Turdio Excrement Edition for Metro applications.
 
6:05 PM
Visual Stupido
 
Would you watch someone coding?
 
Visual Cupido -_-
 
@CatPlusPlus Some people do.
You know about screencasts?
 
Yes, they're stupid.
 
Screencasts suck. Especially when people put their faces on top of them using a web cam, but even when they don't do that, they still suck.
 
6:06 PM
Screencasts. Well, people too.
 
People like many things.
 
@CatPlusPlus Nah, hard to masturbate to.
 
Many of them are not really sane.
 
@StackedCrooked Fap that line.
 
@StackedCrooked Not if they include ascii pr0n in teh comments.
 
6:07 PM
Screencast: instead of writing a tutorial you can read in 10 minutes and actually copy code from to try it out, we're gonna make a two hour video!
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@ScarletAmaranth they said it was an unforunate coincidence that VS10 came out in 2010.
 
BRILLANT1
 
A girl writing code would be interesting to watch. Especially if she manages to invoke the destructor on her clothes. Also, if it has the Brazzers logo in the lower corner of the screen.
 
Now that I redesigned my website, it's fucking unusable. I'm gonna take a break and drink some Spa.
 
@DomagojPandža You are assuming that it will be an attractive girl.
 
6:09 PM
@StackedCrooked It's not really uncommon.
 
I can only speak of what I've seen.
 
I know a female programmer who's hot.
 
Brazzers is crap.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik She's into hot programming?
 
@CatPlusPlus A lot of experience? :P
 
6:10 PM
yea, what is this Brazzers things?
I keep hearing about it
 
@TonyTheLion It's a mirror of Stack Overflow. Check it out!
 
@TonyTheLion It's a porn site.
 
@TonyTheLion OH YOU!
 
oh, who would have thought... I come in at exactly that moment
 
Their website is managed right from Montreal.
 
6:11 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik too late
 
@EtiennedeMartel don't want to go work for them?
 
It fascinates me that some people actually pay for porn.
 
yea, well some are stupid enough to do that
 
As long as you have a camera, it's not prostitution.
 
6:12 PM
> Software is like sex; it's better when it's free. — Linus Torvalds xD
 
@TonyTheLion Nah, I did Web stuff before, and I'm no longer interested.
 
lol, I know the feeling
 
Even if it's porn.
 
Hey guys it's friday! Hawaiian shirt day!
 
Friday is the day I drink beer at work.
 
6:14 PM
Friday is the best day of the week.
 
No, saturday is.
 
Friday is...
I don't know.
 
Caturday is the best day of the week
 
Hey @icedTea what's up?
 
Cats, turds and litter boxes.
 
6:15 PM
Also @Cat.
 
I once asked for iced tea in a restaurant, expecting to get ice tea. Instead, I got real cold, iced tea and it tasted like the most bitter thing in the universe.
 
Als
ola
 
Did somebody post a moment ago something about situations in which the compiler synthesizes a copy constructor? A question on SO?
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik isn't that how it started?
@DomagojPandža yes
 
@MooingDuck how what started?
 
6:17 PM
29 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
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Q: When is default constructor generated in C++

user1431221As per "Inside C++ Object Model" copy constructor is generated(if not declared by programmer) by compiler only when at-least any one of below four conditions are true: 1>When the class contains a member object of a class for which a copy constructor exists (either explicitly declared by the clas...

@RadekdaknokSlupik iced tea
 
Als
folks a little help in closing this one as dup pls:
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Q: suffix changing identifier before readed?

Arviller RidiosI Cant really undersdand suffix. I know it first uses identifier and then increases or decreses , as first shows i and then ++. But now i think im wrong and still don't understand it. #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { int i = 0; cout << i << i++ &l...

 
Well, Cat++ pretty much answered it. It's just worth noting that the OP is baffled by the fact he has no data members, but a copy constructor is oblivious to that information, the compiler doesn't care. He explicitly stated he doesn't want one. It's a bit of a strange question.
Oh, well, +1 Cat++
You kill a dog and ask why he is dead.
 
@Als You look pissed in those comments.
 
Als
@EtiennedeMartel I am not usually but this pissed me "why do you criticise me instead of edit and correct?"
 
sbi
@Als I think there's an FAQ entry for that.
 
Als
6:21 PM
huh, edit and correct?
 
@Als Kill him with fire, m'lord.
 
Als
@sbi The famous FAQ entry I know, but there is a exact dup which was asked a few days ago, i think that is more relevant one
@DomagojPandža Its as-if people have started demanding others edit and correct their answers.
 
sbi
@Als Fitting:
I'm getting an Angry Birds credit card to use when I'm angry. Just have to figure out how to launch myself at cashiers without arrest.
 
Als
lulz
@sbi: Was it you who left me a message here something about 4.00 am??, I saw it in notification box while at work but then work blocks everything with word chat so never got a chance to actually see it(i forgot to check later) and now i cannot find it in notification box
@TonyTheLion hey long time mate
 
sbi
6:27 PM
@Als You can see it on the replies tab in your chat profile.
 
yea very long time
 
hmm, why does the C++ spec detail Iterator requirements as if it were another valid tag? I think that should simply be merged into input/output iterators.
 
was thinking yesterday that I haven't seen you online much
dafuq does the tag line actually mean?
 
sbi
6 hours ago, by sbi
I think this topic should scare off the guys asking about Java, PHP, and C:
 
Als
@sbi oh thanks, got it.
@TonyTheLion yeah workplace blocks chat and too tired to be in here after work
 
sbi
6:30 PM
@Als, I read earlier today that in your country sex among people <18yo has become illegal. Is that really true?
 
Als
@sbi :) Yes
 
sbi
@Als How incredibly absurd.
 
Als
that is incredibly funny
it is it is
 
@TonyTheLion Mostly means that if you observe a pattern, it might be in your head, and it happens all the time.
 
Fans in this laptop are so damn loud.
 
sbi
6:32 PM
@Als Not funny at all. If I am informed correctly, if a 19yo sleeps with a 17yo, this is considered rape.
 
Als
@sbi How can you stop people from having sex? and 18 yr olds err...everyone is going to end up guilty hehe
 
sbi
And if two 17yo have sex, what sentence would they actually face?
 
@Als does that include with eachother?
 
sbi
@MooingDuck AFAIK, yes.
 
@sbi that's been the case in America for quite a while
 
6:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus Fans in the football stadium too, so prepare.
 
sbi
@Als That's why it is absurd.
@MooingDuck You're kidding, right?
 
@sbi no, people over 18 can't sleep with people under 18.
 
@sbi No, he's not.
 
Als
@sbi Yes its absurd, Yes consensual sex with someone below 18 would be rape
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Please tell me that at least it's not illegal outside the bible belt.
 
6:33 PM
@sbi the entire USA. But 17 year olds can sleep with eachother AFAIK.
 
sbi
2 mins ago, by sbi
And if two 17yo have sex, what sentence would they actually face?
 
Als
@sbi uhm... i dunno..I am not 17 anymore and I don't have a 17 yr old
so its a long way to go for me
I will know by the time it matters i hhink and hope
 
@MooingDuck ah interesting
 
sbi
@MooingDuck That is so incredibly stupid, I dunno what to say. So a 16yo and a 17yo can have all the sex they want, but after the older of the two turns 18 they have to wait for a year? Please someone tell me that I misunderstood this.
 
@sbi that's the USA.
 
6:36 PM
I think you understood it correctly. AFAIK that's how it is
 
That is stupid.
 
@sbi Well, they can still do it, but if the younger one gets angry at the older one he or she can probably have him or her arrested.
 
Ridiculous laws in USA? Well I never.
 
Als
@sbi Apparently, it will be a criminal offence if two 17 yr olds have sex with or without consent in my country now
 
sbi
6:39 PM
You know, I can understand that a society wants to impose limits so that a 30yo boy can't bully a 13yo girl into having sex. But we're talking about 18 year olds! 18yo girls have been sexually mature for about 5 years, some of them for 8 years. I really have a hard time to believe it.
 
The ages of consent in North America for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction. The age of consent in Canada is 16. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18. The age of consent in Mexico is complex. Typically, Mexican states have a "primary" age of consent (which may be as low as 12), and sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal. Sexual relations between adults and teenagers are left in a legal gray area: laws against adults "corrupting" minors may be used sometimes to punish such sexual encounters, as well as laws against engaging in sexual relatio...
 
sbi
@Als OMG.
 
In the Netherlands you must be 16+ AFAIK, but nobody cares.
 
Als
The ages of consent for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction across Asia. The specific activity engaged in or the gender of its participants can also be affected by the law. Below is a discussion of the various laws dealing with this subject. The highlighted age refers to an age at or above which an individual can engage in unfettered sexual relations with another who is also at or above that age. Other variables, for example homosexual relations or close in age exceptions may exist and are noted when relevant, for example in Indonesia. The below is a list of all jurisdictions in Asia a...
damn teenagers are gonna run away to Manipur!
 
sbi
6:41 PM
This is an interesting overview.
 
I don't want to study law
 
@sbi it's not about sexual maturity, so much as responsibility. In the USA, people aren't considered responsible for their actions until 18, before that is the parents responsibility. It creates some wierd loopholes, such as that discussed.
 
@sbi: got a sec?
 
@EtiennedeMartel as a juvenile, yes
 
sbi
@JohnDibling I just saw it. Will head over.
 
6:42 PM
It was 14 in Canada before the Harper government raised that to 16. Lulzy conservatives, eh?
 
> must be married
 
Als
Well, whatever be the law regarding this, someone or other is not going to be happy about it. Lets just accept that.
 
It's not about people being unhappy, it's about idiotic laws ruining lives of innocent people.
 
The problem is identifying at which point can someone be mature enough to determine if he or she is being raped.
(That sounds obvious, but I believe it's actually much more complicated than that)
 
Als
6:44 PM
@EtiennedeMartel that is relative and would change from person to person
 
@sbi I looked up the laws for my state, they can continue having sex if they're within 60 months of age of each other, and a bunch of other stipulations.
 
Als
@CatPlusPlus Any law is going to ruin someone, theres no ruin-none law possible i believe.
 
Laws are supposed to protect people, not fuck them over.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Starting at what age? I mean, there's quite a difference between a 13yo and a 18yo.
 
Als
@MooingDuck oh wow so now teenagers should carry a law book and check if they fit in before the satisfy their hormones
 
6:46 PM
@sbi 16 it looks like. There's a lot of details and such
 
sbi
@Als All people are going to die. So let's kill them right away.
 
Als
@CatPlusPlus what law won't do that if you were to suggest?
@sbi I am only saying
 
@Als most teenagers don't sleep with people 5 years older than themselves, so I don't think it comes up often.
 
Als
3 mins ago, by Als
Well, whatever be the law regarding this, someone or other is not going to be happy about it. Lets just accept that.
 
@MooingDuck I know somebody who's 15 and has a boyfriend of 21.
 
Als
6:47 PM
@MooingDuck unless ofcourse you've got horny sexy teachers whose stories keep getting headlines.
 
@Als both of those situations are rare.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck How can there have ever been an age difference of 5 year between two teens if the minimum age is 16??
 
@sbi a 16 year old can legally sleep with a 21 year old if they're in a "significant relationship".
@sbi also 14-18, and 12-17 (for significant relationships)
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Oh, I see. Well, so I did misunderstand that earlier then.
 
6:49 PM
@sbi I hadn't actually known until I looked it up just now.
 
Als
Well I got a lingering doubt now, As i said in my country sex with or without consent below 17 yrs is a criminal offence, so assume a scenario, two 16 yr olds have sex they have no problems about it, someone sees them doing so and reports the matter..they get booked for criminal offence?
How is it to be proved in court of law, who had sex with whom..
 
sbi
@Als That's what i was asking you.
 
@Als in the us they're close enough in age that the sex would be allowed, but they'd get jailed for a day for "indecent exposure"
 
sbi
@Als Witnesses.
@MooingDuck Well, it does make a lot more sense now.
 
Als
The news splashed all over doesn't say about this in detail
 
6:53 PM
@Als and he says/she says, depending on the accusation
 
sbi
@MooingDuck But that's exactly the thing: They won't even need any other excuse now to prosecute them for having sex, because the very act is forbidden.
 
@sbi what country?
 
Als
@MooingDuck theres no acccusation, its consensual just lets say neighbor thinks its a problem
 
sbi
@MooingDuck India.
 
4
Q: Convert nested C loops into a single boost index?

HookedI'm slowly learning boost and I'm trying to find a simple way to convert the following C++ snippet: for(int i=-n;i<n+1;i++) { for(int j=-n;j<n+1;j++) { for(int k=-n;k<n+1;k++) { cout << i << ' ' << j << ' ' << k << endl; } } } I...

can you even simplify that?
 
Als
6:56 PM
It was 16 yr previously, We are heading backwords....
 
sbi
OMG. When my daughter's (15) boyfriend (17) visited us over Xmas/NY'sE, I made sure they are well prepared for the occasion. That could probably have brought me to jail in some of the countries you guys are living in. That's absurd.
 
@sbi "Well prepared", eh?
 
Als
@sbi In the country where i live its still a far fetched idea where a father prepares for teenage daughters occasion, its way too forward a step for the traditional setup here.
 
sbi
6:59 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah. I talked about it with her and she went to a gyn with my second wife (she didn't want to go with her mother or with me), to get a prescription for contraceptives. I also made sure the boy had been talked about and would arrive well-equipped.
 
@sbi That's incredibly responsible of you.
 
sbi
@Als Yeah, why make it easier for your kids when you had it so hard yourself?
 
Als
@sbi damn...half of india wants @sbi for an dad now!
:P
 
gah, I need intellisence to work again! I can't spell!
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Why is that "incredible"? We've all been teens, haven't we? I had three goals: 1. No pregnancy. 2. They should learn the important rule "new partner => use rubber" as soon as necessary. 3. She should wait another year or two. In that order of importance. She stuck to the two most important ones, and I think that, if a teenage daughter heeds 66% of her father's advice about sex and relationships, then that's pretty good.
 
Als
7:05 PM
@sbi Though you are a scary ape most times, Thou is a mature, responsible, understanding and cool dad.
 
sbi
@Als See, this doesn't work in isolation. You cannot raise your kids by bullying them to obey your every word for 15 years, and then tell them they can make up their own mind. You have to teach them to think for themselves, and that your advice is helpful, from the very beginning.
 
Als
@sbi Roger that :)
 
how do I get two conditions in an enable_if? I can't find a std::and<T,T>::value kind of thing.
or do I just have two enable_ifs?
 
oh, right. duh
 
7:09 PM
lol
 
I was thinking metatype stuff, forgot that ::value is just a bool
 
Als
okay a Q: Are static inline functions defined in header any different from static functions defined in header?
 
sbi
@Als You need to to let your kids fail when they do not heed your advice. It's important to allow them to deviate from your advice when they won't hurt themselves too badly. So I wouldn't let my kids try what happens when they stick a wire into a power socket, but I did let one of my sons do something I had told him not to do that lead to a fuse burning and the apartment suddenly being dark. He was 2 or 3yo, terribly shocked, and took it as a very impressive lesson.
 
sbi
@Als Yep. The latter will lead to linker errors when the header is included in more than one TU.
 
7:13 PM
And afaik static globals are deprecated.
Not sure if that also holds for function, though.
 
Als
@sbi Each function gets its own copy of the static function since it has internal linkage, so why?
 
Why would they be deprecated?
 
I thought that I read that somewhere.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I don't think so
 
static in top-level scope is a linkage specifier.
 
7:15 PM
Oh. Ok.
 
sbi
@Als Ah, right. Mea culpa. I was thinking about static member functions.
 
It's stupid, but blame C.
Well, blame C++ for inheriting C crap, too.
 
Als
@sbi So there's no difference AFAIU.
 
sbi
May 7 at 17:06, by sbi
@stdOrgnlDave As a rule, when you need a language lawyer, never ever even look into my direction.
 
Als
I actually wrote a answer today and was a little confused later, anyone willing to help me by reviewing it?
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A: Should I define static inline methods in header file?

Als How to add a function definition in header file? This can be achieved in 3 possible ways: Marking the function inline or Making the function static or Putting the functions in anonymous namespace. What is the correct way to do so? #1 i.e: Marking the function inline is the c...

Umm..someone..anyone?
 
sbi
7:23 PM
Not me, sorry.
Don't even look into my direction.
 
Als
@sbi uhm yeah you can only find time for proof reading Scott Meyers :P
 
Oh yeah blame him for not wanting to pay attention to your whims :p
 
hmm, I wonder where I installed boost
 
sbi
@Als Right now, I don't find the time to do that. He isn't miffed about it, though.
 
Als
@StackedCrooked Asking for help is what it was not whims, anyways i was just kidding with that comment, @sbi knows that(i hope)
 
7:26 PM
@MooingDuck on your hard drive.
 
sbi
@Als I know nuffink.
 
Are you drinking beer?
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I see a boost\boost_1_47 folder with a ton of .lib and .zip files. No headers though.
 
That's old.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes In general? Yes. Right now? no. (I am still trying to tear myself away from work.)
 
7:27 PM
Oh.
Carry on then.
 
sbi
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Als
oh talking of work I am going to start working for a new co at the beginning of next month :)
 
sbi
@Als Oh. Is that good?
 
@MooingDuck doesn't Windows have a search file function?
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I am, but it's slow, as I haven't indexed that folder.
 
Als
7:29 PM
@sbi Yes as of now i believe so, finally some C++ and not procedural C crap
 
@MooingDuck doesn't it automatically index all files? How stupid.
 
sbi
@Als Ah. Sounds good! I will have a job interview for a C++ job on Monday.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I think by default it only indexes user folders, since 99% of the time, if you lost a file, it's there. It can search everything, but that's slower.
 
@MooingDuck oh that the user is never a software developer mentality.
 
Als
@sbi Well all teh best, You sure will take them for a ride :) , just a query does C++11 now features in the C++ intws? AFAIHS none.
 
7:32 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik not never, just not the normal case. it's overridable, I just never bothered.
 
sbi
@Als They are doing embedded stuff and are stuck with C++03 due to an older version of GCC.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Wait, you code outside of ~?
 
Really, such an index won't be bigger than a GB. Microsoft still lives in the stone age.
@RMartinhoFernandes no, but I put boost in /opt/local.
 
sbi
Anyway, did I mention I am trying to go home? I'll probably be offline most of the weekend, because I am going to visit my grandfather, whose 90th birthday is tomorrow, and I don't think I am going to carry my laptop with me. So have fun without me.
 
Als
@sbi oh how do you think about it then? I believe you've been using boost since c++0x days, little bit of adjustment to make for you then
 
7:33 PM
@sbi Won't be difficult.
 
@sbi Your grand father? Wow.
Congratulations to him.
 
Als
@sbi My grandfather is 92 and i am not old as you!
 
sbi
@Als Think about what? Last I coded C++ for a living, C++03 was all the rage.
@Als So you say! :)
 
C++03 is ancient.
 
sbi
7:34 PM
Anyway, I'm off now.
 
DeadMG is all the rage.
 
Als
@sbi Have a good time :)
 
@sbi see you Monday. Have fun!
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes Is he still cursing his school?
 
hmm, ipod has 82MB left. Not enough to install boost headers.
 
7:35 PM
Why would you want to install Boost on your iPod? Oh wait, you are a mooing duck. Never mind.
 
+1
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik all my code is on my ipod. If I can find an IDE, I can code.
 
@MooingDuck (a) No it's not. (b) boost is not your code
 
@sehe picky picky
 
Als
7:36 PM
@MooingDuck copy of it, how is one to install boost on ipod?
 
There was a compiler for Android recently
Hi
 
@Als headers, I doubt I can find the .lib files.
 
GCC runs on iPod touches. clang should run too; iPod touch runs just Mac OS X with a different GUI and some restrictions on what code can be run (which get removed after jailbreaking).
 
Als
@MooingDuck Isn't that called copying the files
 
@Als sure
 
Als
7:38 PM
@MooingDuck Just confused by installing
so just checking
didn't want to look foolishly around next time someone said i compiled c++ code on ipod.
 
There is a terminal app for jail broken iPhones, but it's fucking ugly.
 
Als
okay need to sleep getting late here
see you around folks.
 
See ya.
I don't remember what font I used on my website. I designed it a hour or two ago, but I already forgot it.
 
20 hours ago, by sehe
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@MooingDuck not really legible is it
 
weird: I have a Wikipedia tab open in chrome. If I switch to a different tab, resize the window, then go to the Wikipedia tab, the bits all slowly move to the "new" positions.
@sehe I can read it, but mine isn't in xml
 
7:47 PM
woof woof
 
@MooingDuck I bet it is some fancy-pants CSS/js feature of wikipedia
 
@ScottW hahah :)
 
@MooingDuck What OS are you on?
 
@sehe iterative resizing?
@sehe Windows XP
 
@MooingDuck Animated resizing, yes. It is 'usability' feature: no surprising unsmooth rearrangements
 
7:48 PM
@sehe interesting
 
@MooingDuck Ah. Well this is a fail on my Gnome Desktop, at least.
I'm starting to have second thoughts about my switch to Mint
The Desktop becomes slow (mainly switching applications is somehow horribly slow) and that is even without Compiz. Also there are graphical glithces I never had with the same hardwawre on Ubuntu
 
On Linux I always have problems with getting the toolbars right. They are either too small or too big and the icons look fuzzy, and when I resize them they go glitch and sit on top of each other.
Bleh I hate such things.
 
Hey guy
guys*
Sorry to disturb you, but I don't think this warrants a question of it's own
How would I get a string from a void pointer?
 
@AshleyDavies static_cast<char*>(my_void_pointer)
Also: don't use void pointers.
 
Can't help it
Using SFML's socket library
 
7:56 PM
@AshleyDavies That totally warrants a question of its own. Including why do you think you need such thing (i.e. what problem you are trying to solve).
 
Thanks though
 
Use boost::asio.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I could've found it on the internet, I'm just no good with search keywords
 
What. SFML uses void*?
 
@AshleyDavies SFML has a socket library?
 
receive (void *data, std::size_t size, std::size_t &received)
And you don't believe me when I say SFML sucks.
 
There is a reason that it's called S**FML**.
 
I only need to draw a basic isometric grid and communicate with a server for character positions
 
Don't use this, use Boost.ASIO.
 
7:58 PM
Fun fact: SFML's main maintainer (Laurent Gomila) is a regular on the Site du Zéro.
 
Who here has ever used Boost.ASIO?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes the puppy, IIRC.
 
I need to make the server file as small as possible, and I need to use SFML anyway so I'd rather use their sockets
 
@EtiennedeMartel Didn't you feel like it could use a better interface?
 
7:59 PM
Their sockets suck.
 
As small as possible? Use system calls directly.
 
You will have buggy code with this crap.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I felt like it was over engineered.
 
You're using buggy code.
 
What's wrong with it?
 
7:59 PM
Also are you installing the server on a 10kB EEPROM or what?
 

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