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3:00 PM
Cheese. Monkey. Something.
 
@sbi I'm guessing you addressed not a specific message or idea but something that I can't quite get my finger on.
 
sbi
@LucDanton Actually, secunda is here.
 
@sbi There can be more than one.
 
but, AFAIK a 'language' is just a syntax along with rules for processing that text into some form of executable. This could be pre-compiled or interpreted. It target a virtual-machine that allows it run cross platform, ie Java. A language can even be used in more then one way, such as the fact that normally C++ is compiled to a platform specific binary, but could be used as a 'script' that is loaded at run time. and vice versa for Lua.
 
@LucDanton No!
SCNR.
I can never resist :S
 
3:02 PM
Language is syntax and associated semantics.
 
sbi
@LucDanton I addressed a very specific question: whether it is Ok to say "C# is a CLI language".
 
There's no executable thingy in language theory.
 
sbi
Oh, so the @Cat is with me on this. Here, have some milk as a means of thanking you.
 
@CatPlusPlus I assumed we could take it in the context of programming languages where you generally want to execute the 'text'
 
Of course I am. Haven't you seen me yelling at people for using term "scripting language"?
 
3:03 PM
@sbi I am also with you, but I don't want milk thanks
 
@sbi And the "Therefore, the language doesn't necessarily imply a platform." part of that is okay, but the following is either rubbish or going over my head.
 
@CatPlusPlus I have, endless stuff :P
 
Oh, so it was @Cat who said that.
 
@thecoshman Who said anything about text?
 
Man, I think I started a huge debate or something.
 
3:04 PM
@thecoshman Programming languages are formal languages, so language theory applies.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes let's not get silly by bringing esoteric languages into it
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sorry, there's no badge for doing that in the Lounge. Way too easy.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Said what?
 
sbi
@thecoshman Looks at the avatar. Sorry, but I don't know what to thank such... erm... monstrosities with.
 
@thecoshman What's a Y language with Y = esoteric?
 
3:05 PM
It's a pirate, you thank them with rum.
 
@CatPlusPlus they are, but I don't think you can just ignore the fact that they tend to be converted from one thing to another, and not the same way as translations
 
@CatPlusPlus Grog!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You can't say that! It has to be a paradigm!
 
Compilation is a translation process.
 
3:06 PM
@sbi beer, ofc; dark beer
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus If that is a pirate, then it's one of those where the rum send down the throat drip straight on the pelvis bone, and to the floor from there.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes rhetoric question? or is Brainfuck a suitable answer
 
@CatPlusPlus And wenches.
 
@EtiennedeMartel buxom wenches mind you
 
sbi
@LucDanton Again, you are knocking down a strawman there. You do this quite impressively — as far as knocking down strawmen can be impressive, anyway.
 
3:08 PM
@sbi actually, I would prefer to catch it in a bowl ... hmm, maybe I'll leave it on the floor and only drink it once
 
I need a nap.
And food.
But mostly nap.
 
@thecoshman In a discussion of whether "Y language" is okay for various Ys, using "Y language"-like phrases doesn't quite work. It was a rhetorical question trying to make this point.
 
sbi
Catnap.
 
@thecoshman Of course.
 
I still have one tomato and some pasta, so I won't starve I think.
 
3:09 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes not all Y's are created equal
 
sbi
7 hours ago, by sbi
@CatPlusPlus And I was wondering why that smell of burned food comes out of the kitchen.
 
@sbi I'm just saying that pointing out that paradigms are useful for describing languages is an irrelevant argument as to whether describing languages by platform is sane/useful/wrong/whatever.
 
@CatPlusPlus well, that isn't that much food, barley a nibble I'd say
 
@thecoshman 30/75 (40.00%)
 
sbi
@LucDanton Since when is pointing out an example that works as the opposite of one that doesn't, not useful in explaining what makes one work and the other not?
 
3:12 PM
When the example is barely or not at all related.
 
sbi
@thecoshman He can always catch a few mice if he gets desperate.
 
@sbi Ah well, I don't see the two as opposites.
 
(Not trying to claim this is the case or anything, just being neutral)
 
What makes a man turn neutral?
 
@sehe lol, I got like one, then noticed I could click forfit, and it would give me the answer with out counting it against me
 
sbi
3:12 PM
@LucDanton And I say that's wrong, because, regarding whether they work in that phrase, they are opposites.
@CatPlusPlus He's a robot, remember.
 
@sbi I find most cats couldn't care less for catching mice... birds however
 
sbi
Oh, you already fixed that.
 
@sbi keep up
 
@sbi If you really think that, then I don't see how "'an apple is a tasty fruit' is a valid phrase that works, hence 'an apple is a nice fruit' is a phrase that shouldn't work" is a strawman.
 
sbi
3:15 PM
@thecoshman You just failed to keep up with me keeping up.
 
Oooh, meta-keep-up-race.
Bets open.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Bet always is open. She's a whore, I guess.
 
@sbi actually, my telling you to keep up is still valid even once you corrected your late telling me to correct my post.
 
@sbi Erm. What
 
What the fuck is going on here?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Didi I mention I'm in a colorful-language mood today?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes FYI 'Bet' is a girls name
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes You just made a speck on my monitor.
 
@sbi I'm in a colour-blind language problem
 
sbi
@thecoshman I am sure "She's a whore" clued him on that.
 
3:17 PM
@sbi how long until he reaches the milk?
 
@sbi > Erm. what
 
sbi
@sehe I think he's going for a tomato plus pasta instead. What a weird cat.
 
@sbi I think that was easy to infer.
 
@thecoshman I didn't find out, because... I don't click. I use the keyboard. I pressed Esc and that would tell me in a nice red bar what I should have been answering.
 
3:18 PM
@thecoshman not lenna, no?
 
Turns out I wouldn't recognize Fortran if it hit me in the face
2
 
With a stack of punch cards?
 
@sehe huh, nice idea that site, poor execution
 
Tony is away but we have a bonobo talking about a whore named Bet that is always open, and a Norvegian obsessed with a Playboy model.
 
@CheersandhthAlf huh?
 
3:19 PM
She's Swedish.
 
But you're Norwegian, right?
 
@EtiennedeMartel You started play hour. It's the school yard all over again
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Here's news for you: Norwegian men also adore Swedish playmates.
 
@thecoshman Really? I liked it. What's wrong with it? Can't browse previous Q/A? That's the only thing I missed
Hyperlinks to the main sites/wiki articles for the langauges harmed? Background? Indication whether a sample is typical coding style or extreme golf/obfuscation?
 
sbi
@LucDanton Whether an apple is "tasty" or "nice" is determined by the apple. Whether the cider made from it is clear or unfiltered is an attribute that's determined by the way it was processed.
 
3:22 PM
@sehe None seemed like golfing or obfuscation to me.
 
@sehe well, I guess it's that it relies on you to no cheat. links to wiki page on language would be nice. And would be really nice if you could search for a language and set the version for it
 
sbi
^ "relies"
 
@sbi 'tasty' and 'nice' are subjective attributes, it depends on who you ask. 'clear' cider is something that (with in reason) it either is or isn't
@sbi thanks :D
 
@sbi That doesn't make the original definition you're contesting wrong. It's still internally consistent. You can claim it is useless or backwards.
 
I tried few times, but just gave up
 
3:24 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm not in the mood to go back to find them, but about 3 of them were on/over the edge of codegolf
 
Maybe they were esoteric languages that are prone to unreadability?
(Befunge, Malbolge?)
 
And the argument you picked is still irrelevant.
 
I think the people at work play something like code-anti-golf
2
 
@thecoshman Well. Duh. Of course it does. It's not like the high score will win anything.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Well, how much a language supports paradigm "Z" is also, to some extend, subjective.
 
3:25 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Nah, just the languages I knew
 
@sehe but points mean prizes!
 
C++ sucks at the logic programming paradigm.
 
@sbi I'm going to fall back to, not all Z are create equal
any way, it's time for me to head home
see y'all later
 
sbi
@LucDanton I am contesting that apples can be reliably categorized by whether filtered or unfiltered cider is made from them.
@RMartinhoFernandes C++ sucks at being consistent. Well, at having a sane grammar, actually.
 
@sbi Yeah I went back to the languages.
 
3:27 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I went too fast at the c++ one, I accidentally pressed one Esc too often, so I didn't get the c++ one and didn't stop to look at the code once I borked that Q.
 
@Sbi, though therer are apples especially made for cider, and only cider ( not edible )
 
IOW, you suck.
 
I did notice I didn't really like the Haskell one. I preferred the look of the F# IIRC
 
sbi
@LucDanton Then I am contesting that you can reliably categorize languages by the platform they are targeting.
 
@sehe Blasphemy!
 
3:28 PM
@StephaneRolland Define edible
 
@sbi Well, the 'reliably' is new, but sure, I got that.
 
that one can eat
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Boo was missing, and the Nemerle sample seemed overly verbose
@StephaneRolland I'm convinced I can eat one of your 'cider apples'. I bet I'd even like to, when hungry
 
sbi
@StephaneRolland Yeah, I already pointed out that I consciously put in words like "almost", "mostly", and "reliably" into my statements because there might be exceptions. (It's hard to compile LISP, given that it has EVAL.)
 
@JeffAtwood being good at C++ is not a prerequisite for being in Lounge<C++>. In fact, it may not even work in your favor.
helloz
 
3:30 PM
@thecoshman You mean, they play code curling?
 
@stdOrgnlDave You're replying to a too-lazy-to-count-months-old message?
 
@sbi, do you inherit CException ? :-)
 
sbi
@stdOrgnlDave Damn, now you have drawn the head of the police into our gambling den! :)
 
You know you just responded to 2 year old message?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes which has been reposted numerous times?
 
sbi
3:30 PM
@StephaneRolland No, my parents are poor, I won't inherit much.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yes indeed, have you not replied to uber old posts? or even perhaps posted them yourself?
 
Yes, I have posted messages that are now old.
 
3 of which were @sbi reposting them.
@sbi do you maintain a list of favorites to periodically re-post in order that we might think you are funny when it is otherwise not the case?
 
Dammit. I didn't recognize the Fortran either! That shit must have changed a lot since we last met.
 
3:33 PM
Apr 23 at 0:54, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Nov 9 '11 at 9:17, by R. Martinho Fernandes
try {
    FileInputStream f = new FileInputStream("blah");
    try {
        // do stuff
    } finally {
        try {
            f.close();
        } catch(IOException e) {
            // what now?
        }
    }
} catch(FileNotFoundException e) {
    // oops
}
 
I love that one.
 
yes indeed the latest fortran revision was in 2008. they didn't revise the retardedness out of it though.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I bet it is just because you learned Fortran from scientific programming, not beer programming
 
sbi
@stdOrgnlDave No, I specifically searched for Jeff's message one in order to disprove someone's false statement. I knew he had posted here, I had forgotten that I had quoted it before, though.
 
is there a way to search for recent pings? you know, people who have written @sbi @sehe @RMartinhoFernandes etc. except to me
 
sbi
3:35 PM
@stdOrgnlDave Did they also add OO features to it? ("FOORTRAN")
 
@stdOrgnlDave I remember I have installed and briefly used a Cobol IDE when porting some old code to from VMS on UniVAC to Windows NT 4
 
@sbi the letter O is considered harmful.
 
FOOPTRAN.
 
sbi
@stdOrgnlDave You can search for a specific person being pinged, but not for all message of that person being replied to.
@stdOrgnlDave As in COBOL? FWIW, I think they added some OO stuff to COBOL in the 90s. That would make it COOBOL then. :)
 
@sbi so do I just put in @stdOrgnlDave in the search box?
 
3:37 PM
@stdOrgnlDave There is a search box, I bet it works: chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
sbi
@stdOrgnlDave How would I know whether you do that?
 
For some values of 'works'.
SO team is not good at search engines.
 
sbi
OTOH, the google team isn't good at social.
 
@sbi ... look at the very bottom of the Wikipedia page on FORTRAN, under the heading Humor
 
@sehe Ok, just saw it. It's not obfuscated at all. Looks like something I'd write.
 
sbi
3:39 PM
@stdOrgnlDave Why would I want to do that?
(Hint: You might want to provide some context by replying to specific messages, rather than users.)
 
Guys, you can now begin installing Diablo 3.
 
@sbi I think some devious souls invented Cool:GEN for that. Fortunately, I never got to learn that
 
@sbi mostly nobody is as pedantic about it as you are, so I don't do it so as to annoy you.
 
Meh, I'm waiting for reprice.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Didn't mean to say it looked obfuscated. It just didn't look too elegant
 
3:40 PM
diablo 3? blech.
 
> 37/75 (49.33%)
Mwhahaha.
Man, there are soo many dialects of Lisp in there.
 
Recognising Lisp dialects is easy.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Hey. Check your facts, please
@RMartinhoFernandes That annoyed me too. I just bailed out before I 'guessed' Standard ML on there. So, that was another missed one :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes If Scheme doesn't work, try Common Lisp. If it doesn't work, try Clojure.
 
@CatPlusPlus But naming the right dialect is more interesting
 
3:42 PM
@sehe that's right, you're the one who totally ragged on me about it first
 
I could recognise CL and Scheme without guessing.
 
sbi
@stdOrgnlDave You don't want to annoy a 500lb grumpy silverback just for fun.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Link or it didn't happen :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then Racket. Then ACL. Then some other.
 
@sbi For fun and glory
 
3:43 PM
@sehe Standard ML is not a Lisp dialect.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Racket had me stumped. I thought I new Lisp dialects :)
@RMartinhoFernandes Aw, the point is, I didn't know it :) I think I remember seeing a lot of parens.
 
Why would you new any more?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Isn't Racket a variant of Scheme?
 
there I was, new to Lounge<C++>, ignorant of the horrors I was to witness here, when old @sehe came along and pretended he was completely retarded because I didn't use the reply button, then told me that was why he was doing it. later, I would learn that it was just that he was weaned on Java.
 
Racket is MzScheme.
 
3:44 PM
@EtiennedeMartel So, a dialect of a dialect of Lisp? Does that help?
 
@stdOrgnlDave [Needs citation]
@CatPlusPlus Aha. That wasn't on the list, though
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Hmmm. I dislike Lisp.
 
you're right, everything I say about myself is original research
 
@stdOrgnlDave You need to get out more.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I do :-( disabilities restrict your abilities sometimes
 
3:46 PM
@stdOrgnlDave The tiny part that talked about yourself doesn't need citation, if that is of any consolation
 
what tiny part that I talked about myself? use the reply button more
 
@stdOrgnlDave Ok
@stdOrgnlDave Will do
 
51/75 (68.00%)
 
sbi
@sehe Where's the glory in being pounded to pulp by a 500lb gorilla?
 
Wow, you're fat.
googles how much is 500lb
Yep, fat.
 
3:50 PM
WolframAlphas how much is 500lb.
 
I miss left4dead 2.
 
She left you?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You mean "out of this room"?
@RMartinhoFernandes If I decode that correctly, @Miss left him for dead in a bad way. ICBWT.
 
anyone here play L4D2?
 
Few times.
 
sbi
3:52 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Yep, I am an obese gorilla. :( @Tony, @Konrad, and @Björn can testify to that.
 
@CatPlusPlus you're addicted to it like alcohol aren't you
 
sbi
How was it, @Radek?
 
Not really, no.
 
damnit. no pick-up game of L4D2 for me.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes No, unsurprisingly, "Miss 'Left-for-dead'" can't spell, or she would have become the Spelling Bee
A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for refusing to renounce, or accept, a belief or cause, usually religious. Meaning In its original meaning, the word martyr, meaning witness, was used in the secular sphere as well as in the New Testament of the Bible. The process of bearing witness was not intended to lead to the death of the witness, although it is known from ancient writers (e.g. Josephus) and from the New Testament that witnesses often died for their testimonies. During the early Christian centuries, the t...
 
3:53 PM
@sbi Piece of cake.
 
Spacecake
 
And very boring.
 
@sehe I totally don't get that.
 
Exam y u three hours.
 
sbi
@sehe You can only become a martyr in a war, preferably when you're on the losing side. There's no way to become a martyr "for fun".
@sehe That's indeed true, @Miss' spelling was quite enraging.
 
3:56 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Miss Left-for-dead is the 11th entry in the Top 10 of weird pageants
 
sbi
@sehe BTW, this was message #3700000.
 
@sbi I never said that. I said, someone could annoy you for fun and glory. Never said the 'glory' part would be fun.
@sbi Oh noes, a bookkeeper. Run for the hills!
 
sbi
@sehe In a company I once worked for, the devs tried to hit "interesting" SVN version numbers. I somehow got infected there. :(
 
4chan version control? GET!
 
@sbi Use git. Every revision gets an equally interesting number, guaranteed!
 
sbi
3:59 PM
@sehe You want me to lobby for a specific VCS based on that?
> Father Antonio Rungi, an Italian Catholic priest [...] announced an online Sister Italia contest in 2008 for nuns in the age group of 18 and 40. People could choose the most attractive nun from the pictures and spiritual profiles in his blog. But before the contest took off, there was a huge controversy and Father Rungi had to cancel the event. — OMG!
 
Sister Italia? ROFL:
 
> Miss Landmine Survivor
@sbi I don't want you to lobby at all. You could just use git locally to generate nice commit ids and check those into SVN. Use git-svn or Tailor to bridge the gap and get nice automatic revision mappings :)
@RadekdaknokSlupik To test your stamina. Simple. Wax on, wax off
 
sbi
@sehe You are not making sense. How would me on my own using git in front of this company's SVN repo prevent me from being passionate on hitting a special SVN revision ID with my login?
 
Because something git something awesome something. Obviously.
 
@sbi In the same way that a nicotine patch would reduce your dependence on actual cigarettes
 
sbi
4:08 PM
Oh, now that the USians are awake, my rant is starting to acquire downvotes.
 
You can get your numbers fix elsewhere, so you don't need to hit SVN revisions anymore
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes In fact, that's what always makes me wary about DVCS: its adversaries are so illogical when rallying for me to use their beloved paradigms.
 
@sbi Ow c'mon big one, no one is rallying for any DVCS. In fact I actively denied I even wanted you to do such a thing. If you really like, you can get these nice, interesting numbers way quicker:
 sha1sum -b <(head /dev/urandom)
 
Is Java webscale?
 
No. Java doesn't support sharding.
 
4:20 PM
I've seen sharding implemented in java.
 
Party pooper.
 
May 9 at 10:42, by sbi
@sehe Party pooper!
 
See, it's unanimous.
 
Must be truth in there
 
Facebook is worth 100B? They totally stole the idea of invasion of privacy & imaginary farms from North Korea.
 
4:23 PM
Are there legitimate usages of the identity function?
(a function which returns the input unchanged)
 
@ŠimeVidas Language?
 
I use it a lot in TMP.
 
@sehe Well, C++, for instance
 
@ŠimeVidas Of course there are. If you need to pass a transform/projection and you don't want any
@RMartinhoFernandes Compile-time identity is even more common, yes
 
Ah, yes.
 
4:24 PM
Do std::forward and std::move count as identity functions as well?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes std::forward, maybe, std::move: no, IMO (it has pretty severe sideeffects that disqualify it, IMO)
 
@sehe It has no side-effects.
Plus std::forward<T> does the exact same transformation when T is not an lvalue reference.
So, either both, or neither.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes sigh. I really need to get a C++ gig. I don't get these concepts solidly wired in my brain without more use
 
My point is, I think std::move allows receiving party to 'clobber' (steal) the innards of a (named or unnamed) variable. After that, the named variable may have observably altered state.
Right?
That would be a rather largish sideeffect to me
 
4:30 PM
So does std::forward in some circumstances, was the point.
 
@LucDanton I got and acknowledged that point, I think
Hi, BTW
 
Well then by your same logic std::forward has a rather largish sideeffect as well!
 
2
Q: break; C++: which loop is it actually breaking

dlibsimple question regarding C++ code: for(int i=0;i<npts;i++) { for(int j=i;j<2*ndim;j++) { if(funcEvals[i]<bestListEval[j]) { bestListEval[j] = funcEvals[i]; for(int k=0;k<m_ndim;k++) ...

What's up with people blatantly copying other people's answers? Look at Sergey K. and JaredPar's answers.
 
What's up with people using nested loops? :P
 
4:36 PM
@JamesCuster that's strange. Do we downvote that? I dont' recall seeing that before...
 
@MooingDuck I don't know which person copied.
 
@JamesCuster Perhaps they both did, from the same source...
 
@JamesCuster eh, one is much better written than the other. He gets my +1 no matter who copied
@sehe that was my guess
 
@MooingDuck Post times are the same.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes But they have 5 minutes before any edits are visible...
 
4:38 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes They must be using a FGITW bot linked to google :)
 
@sehe longjmp FTW!
 
@JamesCuster So, it's natural convergence. Over the course of 5 minutes they incrementally stole each other's improvements in wording until they both converged on the same result. The. Single. Most. Correct. Answer.
 
does anyone know the story behind longjmp? why it was created? who thought of it? how they were killed?
 
@stdOrgnlDave isn't it basically a goto with benefits? I have to look it up again
 
4:40 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I think it may have stemmed from back in the days when dynamic loaders weren't smart and memory was really cramped (virtual memory hadn't been conceived)
I can see how it could be used for a single process to partially 'reboot', which wasn't an uncommon way to dal with low memory constraints:
One 'part' of the program would unload, and another part would be loaded in the same memory. Of course, that could be done without longjmp, I'm jsut thinking aloud
 
@MooingDuck "with benefits"
 
@sehe yes, it can also be used for coroutines or primitive exception handling
 
I would talk about continuation; after all a longjmp is something like that, if I am not wrong
 
@stdOrgnlDave the latter rings a bell - I think I've read about it in that context. Coroutines? How would you transfer control back, if any?
 
oh, whoa, setjmp is neat. If it works with C++, that could be used for coroutines... Oh, Dave just said that.
 
4:43 PM
Ah - now I think I remember, indeed some programs would replace their stacks, like in interrupt handling, and this way they would have multi-tasking in a non-multitasking aware OS (like, MSDOS 2.0)
 
@sehe right
 
@sehe function 1, setjmp. function 2, longjmp. rinse and repeat (if I remember properly)
 
@MooingDuck It doesn't "work" with C++.
Leads to UB in a pinch.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes <troll>So, it's really as well supported as any of the other core language features, then</troll>
 
You have to sustain severe restrictions to make it useful.
 
4:45 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes yeah, MSDN says not to try, that it only kinda sorta sometimes works maybe depending on settings.
 
@sehe It precludes the use of other features.
 
> C++ leads to UB in a pinch (SCNR)
Doesn't seem too far off the mark ^ especially from watching the questions on SO
 
Today is the SCNR festival.
 
Everyday is a struggle to resist
 
what the, the return type of setjmp is .... odd
"Returns 0 after saving the stack environment. If setjmp returns as a result of a longjmp call, it returns the value argument of longjmp, or if the value argument of longjmp is 0, setjmp returns 1. There is no error return."
 
4:49 PM
Are there any good questions on SO anymore? I'm downvoting and voting-to-close almost everything.
 
@JohnDibling Everything?
 
A lot.
Not everything.
 
Perhaps you're just attracted to the crappy questions.
 
I'm just reading the front page.
 
@JohnDibling Basically, the larger the body of existing questions/answers becomes, the smaller the chance that a new one adds value
 
4:52 PM
@sehe: I suppose that's true.
 
Also, the bigger the body of knowledge present, the bigger the attraction for novices to come and find answers.
 
@sehe: Also true, and maybe that's what bugs me more. Case in point: stackoverflow.com/q/10587669/241536
 
So the influx of poor answers rises and growth of the knowledge base diminishes
 
I want to downvote, close, and ban-hammer the poster until they learn to read a fucking manual. Perhaps that means I don't really belong on SO anymore.
Or this one. This poster apparently believes that nobody has ever asked this question before. stackoverflow.com/questions/10587757/…
 
The only good answer here would be read a good book, IMO — sehe 2 mins ago
 
4:57 PM
90% of the "will this affect performance" questions don't actually need to be looked at by the posters...
 
If you're gonna explain, at least explain that the compiler allocates a temporary and binds the parameter to it, because std::string has an implicit conversion constructor that takes a const char* (and const char[] decays to that silently). The temporary lives till the end of the containing full-expression and will then be destructed, deterministically, like any automatic variable — sehe 41 secs ago
@JohnDibling That's lame questions, indeed. If people really wanted to learn that, they would have searched for it. Right now it just seems they want to see slaves running and gathering answers just for them
 
Ell
hi guys
 
@JamesCuster In the absence of other information to the contrary I'd always assume that performance means my performance as a developer.
 

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