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8:00 PM
@Collin Funny thing, I'm still here
 
@Mysticial We could all go downvote it and then your ratio of know-votes to anonymous votes would go up
 
@Collin it would go down actually
wait
I can never figure out which one is the numerator
3
is it the second or the first one that's the numerator
 
Lets star that one to the skies =)
 
@SethCarnegie Swapping the numerator and denominator usually makes a difference.
 
@SethCarnegie first.. I had it backward the first time too
 
8:02 PM
@Mysticial yes it does
 
how often can you star chat posts?
well, I already got the * badge, so I guess I can't badge-whore that one
 
Theres a star badge?
 
yeah if you get like 20 posts starred or something it gives you a badge
 
Xeo
10 stars from 10 different users
IIRC
 
Speaking of badge-whoring, the ones I like to badge-whore for are Populist and Enlightened.
 
im working on fanatic ^^
 
I would count Great Answer, but 100+ votes is not something you can easily get with a crap answer.
 
@ShaneKelsey I was 56 days in, but SO is on zulu time and I am not
 
I was really upset when SO reset my consecutive-days-visited count when I had totally visited every day
@Collin is that seriously why it does it?
 
@Col
 
8:06 PM
I visited after 8PM on my 57th day, lost the streak
 
@stdOrgnlDave Just put an auto-refresher on your user profile.
 
oops @Collin what is zulu time
 
@Mysticial Skeet actually has quite a few +100s that are quite crap in comparison.
 
@ShaneKelsey UTC
 
hmm, I guess I should read up on the thread local wording in c++11
 
8:06 PM
I was playing on meta and I found that it usually takes about 5-10 refreshes on your user profile to log it.
@CaptainGiraffe He also has like 50+ of them total.
 
Whereas only 1 of 4 of my 100+s are crap.
2
 
so far I just knew it was TLS and it handled non-POD types, which is the important stuff. But I should probably try to figure out what the "here be dragons" stuff is all about
 
It seems it was mostly because the wording was not clear and people interpreted it differently.
 
@Mysticial Theres a star for you buddy, I feel your pain =).
 
8:08 PM
@jalf finally
 
yeah, reading @sdt_intel's replies to my tweet now
 
@CaptainGiraffe ok... I totally didn't deserve a star on that...
What bothers me more is that the 3 that weren't crap all got there because of reddit... In other words, I would only have one 100+ (the crap one) without "external intervention".
 
well, I hope this means that they're actually going to start implementing it now
 
Both my Populist badges are also on crap questions... lol
 
does anyone actually use an intel or ibm compiler?
 
8:10 PM
@stdOrgnlDave yes
 
btw where are the gcc guys located?
 
@stdOrgnlDave the intel one is used fairly widely in performance-critical projects. Quite a few game companies use it
 
I've always imagined them to be somewhat inhouse to intel and amd.
 
Not sure about the IBM one
 
@jalf I remember the same argument being used for the watcom compilers back in the days (92?) Where can we find measurements.
 
8:12 PM
didn't even know IBM had a compiler.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I didn't say it was faster. I said it was used by companies who want a fast compiler
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I've used their Power7 compiler - it's pretty unpredictable...
 
@jalf Yes, and it would all be anecdotal.
 
but if you google around, you should be able to find some measurements. It is a good compiler, in terms of code gen. Especially if you have an Intel CPU, of course
@CaptainGiraffe what would?
 
@jalf It's really hard to get fair numbers on compiler output.
 
8:15 PM
@CaptainGiraffe No, it's easy. Compile the code you care about with each compiler, and benchmark the result
the only "fair" numbers are the ones you get for the code you intend to use the compiler on :)
 
@jalf Yes, "the code you care about" being pivotal.
 
but again, Intel's compiler has a reputation for generating fast code, whether or not it's deserved.
 
Intel's compiler, I would consider using it, if it was free on Windows for students like me
 
And it would make sense for them to have a compiler which generates fast code, because they (1) know better than anyone how code should be structured to be fast on their CPUs, and (2) they want their CPUs to look good, and generating fast code when targeting it is one way to do that
 
then again, Intel should know how to compile for its own processor.
 
8:17 PM
@jalf I've been using ICC for quite a while now. And that actually is kinda true.
 
@Mysticial yeah, that is my impression too
 
But it's also notorious for some very nasty hiccups...
 
:D
 
Does any of you guys have access to ICC and g++ to test anything?
 
@CaptainGiraffe I only have ICC for Windows.
 
8:18 PM
@Mysticial you know me well enough by now to know I want you to attempt to compile some code on ICC for me :-P
 
And the MS compiler?
 
Generates decent code, but sucks at C++11.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Shit... Lemme turn on my server. There's no way in hell you're running that template masturbation shit on my main machine with only 12 GB of ram and when I have 50+ things open. (but yes, I will run it)
 
@CatPlusPlus Microsoft is too busy UPPERCASING THEIR IDE to worry about things like C++11!
 
@CatPlusPlus For me at least, better code is more important.
@jalf you okay there buddy?
 
8:21 PM
@CaptainGiraffe hmm?
 
@jalf I'm a Knuth/Stallman fan but that sounded like a cry for help.
 
@stdOrgnlDave So what compilers have you managed to break with it? And how much ram did it take?
 
@CaptainGiraffe no, it's just making fun of Microsoft's priorities
 
@Mysticial there's one piece that crashes every single compiler I've tested it on
including older GCC, newest GCC, older clang, newest clang
 
@CaptainGiraffe You can get the Intel C++ compiler on Linux for non-commercial purposes for free.
 
8:23 PM
@jalf what does microsoft uppercase about their IDE?
 
@Mysticial struct A { int a; bool operator<(const int& inty) { return a < inty; } }; template <class A, class B> auto operator<(const A& a, const B& b) -> decltype(a<b) { return a < b; } int main(void) { A a; a.a = 1; int b = 2; if (a < b) return 4; return 0; }
 
@JamesCuster please how? link?
 
@leemes in their latest changes to VS11, the top menus are uppercase in screenshots
 
That's what I like about having multiple computers. It sandboxes everything so that I can't kill my main work machine.
 
8:25 PM
kidding, me I never installed ICC on that machine... gimme 10 min.
 
oh there's no need to go through all that trouble
 
@MooingDuck lol how useful :facepalm: ...
 
I wish a bought an Intel rig.
 
Hi, what is the advantage of the HRESULT style programming that Win32 API uses in relation to normal exceptions. It seems the first style is fairly verbose, more error prone (in relation to RAII) and hard to compose.
 
8:26 PM
@stdOrgnlDave It should be installed but I wiped the machine a while back. I just haven't run into a situation where I had to compile that machine since then.
 
@YetAnotherGeek HRESULT works in C, and every other language, exceptions don't
 
@MooingDuck Yes but Win32 API is not C compatible
 
@YetAnotherGeek yes it is? You can even call it from Java
 
@leemes Well, in the current beta, pane titles, like Solution Explorer has become SOLUTION EXPLORER, and a couple of other things. In the upcoming RC, it's "only" menus that are upper case
 
@MooingDuck Am I so only on who sees ->AddRef() and ->Release() methods as C++ specific?
 
8:28 PM
Call me an idiot but I'd stick with my Makefiles and maybe NetBeans when I need to do EE stuff.
 
I don't use Visual Studio, but why the hell would they make the menu items all uppercase?
 
@YetAnotherGeek yes, C++ wouldn't need those, we have RAII
 
@YetAnotherGeek COM != Win32 API. But secondly, COM has a specific binary interface which means that you can indeed use COM from C. It's more verbose than the C++ output which hides many of the gory details, but you can use it.
 
@JamesCuster because they don't have a clue about UX design
 
@JamesCuster that's a good question being asked by everyone
 
8:29 PM
and because someone told them that new Microsoft should be kind of Metro-styled, and so they looked and went "oh hey, some of the text is uppercase? I guess that's what we have to do"
 
@DeadMG I must have been confused, since I am not a great Win32 API programmer. Just wondered why the Win32 API looked that way.
 
Hey Gnome3 I find it awesome
 
@YetAnotherGeek It is that way because it has to cross binary boundaries, which exceptions are not particularly suited to.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Can I give that comment a negative star
like, a black hole or something
 
@SethCarnegie That was my first opinion too, please try it again
 
8:30 PM
@CaptainGiraffe I've tried it a lot and it sucks
it's made for single-tasking
 
@SethCarnegie I dont have to use the mouse ever
not quite the opposite
 
haha, a comment on the VS blog about the new UI changes: "I love how the VS UI contrasts with the aesthetically pleasing Metro. We are no bloody users, right? We're programmers, we don't need aesthetics! Way to go, MS."
 
just the fact that they tmux-ed the default terminal should tell you dozens
 
@CaptainGiraffe I don't have a keyboard so I am limited to using the mouse
and gnome3 sucks for me
 
8:32 PM
@jalf Gosh what?
 
@SethCarnegie You made me topple my pizza onto the floor
 
... must ... not ... purchase ... cookies...
 
hi guys ... how is everyone here ?
 
AAARRGGGH MUST NOT PURCHASE COOKIES
 
@Atif about yellowish
 
8:36 PM
@MooingDuck 6:15 at paddington
 
@MooingDuck well that pretty much sums me up also
 
@DeadMG PURCHASE APPLES INSTEAD, PURCHASE APPLES INSTEAD
 
how did cats ever become an internet meme?
 
@Collin I tried that. They are distinctly dissatisfying
 
OMG, it's true. They're uppercasing everything!
 
8:38 PM
 
What the fuck happened?
 
@TonyTheLion I feel extremely discriminated in that regard
 
@CaptainGiraffe Giraffe's were never a meme
 
Is this some strange alternate universe that I got drawn in to accidentally?
 
An lolcat (pronounced ) is an image combining a photograph of a cat with text intended to contribute humour. The text is often idiosyncratic and grammatically incorrect, and its use in this way is known as "lolspeak" or "kitty pidgin". "Lolcat" is a compound word of the acronymic abbreviation "LOL" and the word "cat". A synonym for "lolcat" is cat macro, since the images are a type of image macro. Lolcats are commonly designed for photo sharing imageboards and other Internet forums. Similar image macros which do not actually feature cats are often simply referred to as "lols". H...
 
8:39 PM
can someone please take a look at this code and tell me why find() on a vector is working correctly for the fist loop but working incorrectly for the second loop ideone.com/C4rXK
 
@DeadMG Raisins?
 
@MooingDuck That XKCD is not entirely true
Argh sorry
Read it as insanity of statements
 
@Collin What about it?
 
> As early as the 1870s, British portrait photographer Harry Pointer
I knew it, Potter has been around much longer then we think :P
 
OMG, there's people praising them in the comments!
 
8:40 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes no, it was deliberate
 
@RMartinhoFernandes History section
 
@Collin Oh, you misclicked then. I suppose that was intended for @Tony.
 
i'm on the order of pure nerdy failness IRL :(
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Ahh.. yes it was.
 
@MooingDuck I refuse to believe that.
OR SHOULD I SAY "I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT"?
 
8:43 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I think I wish more for a comment like you have on that last one more than any badge.
 
GUYS
i started usenet again!
 
any one .............. ideone.com/C4rXK
 
@Atif you need to wrap it in a method?
 
8:46 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Yes of course.
 
@Atif any one what?
 
@YetAnotherGeek the whole method ... or the call in find ?
@jalf anyone can point out why find is not working for one vector and working for the other despite being identical
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Also it is a very well written answer. Many more than my +1 is deserved.
 
it works perfectly for the fist for loop ... but the find () in the 2nd for loop does not work ... and they are identical
 
@Atif where is ques_sl_vector defined?
 
8:49 PM
They're not identical, they're using different vectors
 
yes i meanf identical in working ... one works on Process vector and other works on Question vector
 
define "not working"
 
both loops check if the current Process/Question ID is present in the vector ... if yes print the ID and proceed
the first loop works correctly for all processes ... the process that is missing in the vector is correctly identified as missing ... ID printed in the else part
 
@CaptainGiraffe Thanks. To be honest when I started, I intended to make it a snarky way of telling the OP to just RTFM, but it turned out quite different than I intended. In a good way :)
 
the second loop print all the elements as found despite some elements not being present in the vector
 
8:53 PM
Damn. I'm out of everything.
 
it never goes into the else part
 
Food, cookies, toilet paper, even my mouse is missing so I can't play any of the games I bought.
 
@stdOrgnlDave What compiler options do you want?
 

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