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9:00 PM
Ty ty I appreciate it ;)
 
His attitude is probably what keeps him unemployed.
 
He even translated a few old-testament books from Hebrew to English.
 
His friend count is probably low as well
 
@Chimera The guy we're talking about.
 
9:01 PM
@Mysticial Ok, just wanted to make sure.
 
He's a weird guy.
 
It doesn't matter how smart or amazing you are. If you can't get along with people, you're less likely to get anywhere.
 
Agreed!
 
@DiscreteGenius I don't know exactly what you're looking for, but we keep a list of videos here: loungecpp.wikidot.com/videos-and-podcasts-by-c-celebrities. I've mentioned before that the organization sucks, but no one stepped up to fix it, and I'm lazy.
 
I'm a dumbass, but get along with people. Only reason I can work in the field. :-)
 
9:03 PM
We have a dumbass in the lounge? GTFO.
 
:-)
 
hmmm
any native German speakers around?
 
nein!
 
Xeo still around?
 
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Q: Singleton class - Which method

PhorceI have implemented two methods of how I think a Singleton class should be implemented, I just want the opinion of programmers to which one is the best method to use. Each of the methods uses these classes: class Animal { public: virtual void speak() const = 0; }; class Dog { virt...

For the rabid dogs.
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Dumbasses are not welcome. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
9:05 PM
For my Ideone clone I'm thinking of compressing the code with zip, and then embed it in the url using base64 encoding. This way we can share urls that have the content inside of them.
 
Don't we all here believe singletons should be killed with fire?
 
@StackedCrooked Erm.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Nein!
 
@StackedCrooked What's the gain?
 
@StackedCrooked Except that would lead to extremely long URLs, even after zip.
 
9:06 PM
@DeadMG I got 1984 characters of base64 for this program.
 
A 2KB URL? Too much.
 
Perhaps.
 
Rule of thumb: if your URL sizes are in KB, they're too big.
 
Just brainstorming.
 
9:07 PM
I don't want my servers "in the cloud". They have lot's of moisture and as you know, electronics and moisture don't get along.
 
Xeo
So, @DeadMG, what did you want?
 
many of the course names are in German
 
@Xeo I'm guessing a translation.
 
and my instincts trend away from an automatic translator for technical material
 
some names suck very hard in german
 
Xeo
9:08 PM
I think it would be a better translator than me, though, since I have no idea how the correct technical terms in English are.
 
star my fucking joke! :-)
 
Pick 'Geschlecht und Wirtschaftsinformatik'!
 
haha
 
Xeo
@LucDanton lol, just saw that one
 
@LucDanton wth is that?
 
9:09 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm looking for novice to intermediate modern C++ programming videos that use quality programming practices. When I say videos, I mean videos like Lynda.com or VTC C++ videos. But Lynda.com doesn't have C++ videos, and VTC's C++ videos are all outdated.
 
actually
google translate is working fine, curiously
thanks for your help
 
@LucDanton WTF.
 
My brain sez 'gender, and banking software'.
 
yes
 
Xeo
9:09 PM
@LucDanton business informatics, rather.
 
more like business informatics
 
@Xeo What's the gender part about?
 
too slow
 
@Xeo Thanks.
 
Xeo
But if you use the other word for "gender", it gets better: "Sex and business informatics".
@R.MartinhoFernandes No friggin clue.
 
9:10 PM
Right. WTF is that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think like, getting more women into CS
 
Xeo
Seems like it was translated from English to German and back now
 
@Xeo When you put it like that, it sounds interesting.
@Xeo Good thing it did not involve Japanese.
 
Well, that was pretty much the high point of the list. The rest doesn't seem as entertaining interesting.
 
user1182183
9:11 PM
 
user1182183
ok so now I have your atention... how do you know if someone is a "dumbass"?
 
You browse 9gag?
 
I guess I learned 'Verarbeitung' from that list.
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes when I have nothing todo
 
@GamErix That was an answer to your question... Now I'm not sure what to think.
 
user1182183
9:12 PM
I always do useless stuff before sleep
 
talking about translations, cppreference was google-translated to some languages. it's funny as hell
 
@bamboon Oh noes.
 
Xeo
lol
 
They should translationparty it.
 
program utilities - versorgungsunternehmen
 
9:14 PM
wat
Oh, as in 'public utilities' lol?
 
There's a whole course dedicated to debugging?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seems reasonable to me.
 
@LucDanton Yeah. I should add that was surprised positively.
 
Ya. Grading would be problematic, no? The exact kind of practical learning that can teach a lot but is impossible to grade.
 
Fuck grading.
"Introduction to gender studies"? WTF.
 
user142019
9:18 PM
@JohnDibling I understand what you're saying, but, I am going through the design patterns (basically learning them) and I understand what you're trying to convey, I still need to implement one :) — Phorce 12 mins ago
 
user142019
Design patterns: doing things for the sake of doing them since 1994. ಠ_ಠ
 
user1182183
everyone already saw all my photo's from my 18th bday party? xD
 
google translate fails so hard
 
@GamErix I haven't.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd find it more surprising that a course would be introduced that is hard to grade, rather than a useful course.
how do i word
 
user1182183
9:19 PM
@StackedCrooked you want? ^,^
 
@LucDanton lol
 
@GamErix Sure.
 
huh, I didn't pass Algorithm Analysis
oh well
 
user1182183
just a sec :p
 
@DeadMG You failed, or you didn't try?
 
9:19 PM
@DeadMG you're too good for that :p
 
@DeadMG Where did you take that paper from ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Failed.
 
Woah. You suck. (tell me you didn't know that was coming)
 
user1182183
should work w/o a fb acc
 
9:21 PM
We all know your real name now. Just saying.
 
I can't find anything in the standard that says each instance of a container must encapsulate it's own data and that making a copy makes a deep copy. :(
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes you already did
 
@GamErix you're also from the Netherlands?
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked yeps
 
user1182183
you even know how my house looks from the inside!! :D
 
9:22 PM
@MooingDuck ? Table 96?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eh. It was one of those "Apply algorithm by hand from memory on paper with no reference" papers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "post: a == X(a)." That's valid for shallow copies too.
 
user1182183
 
user142019
No, it’s salty.
 
user1182183
 
9:24 PM
@MooingDuck Probably not the best way to arrive at your conclusion but I think iterator invalidation rules would make it very hard for a shared implementation to work.
 
user142019
@GamErix Bitter. :P
 
@GamErix I see you invited some pretty girls to your party :)
 
user142019
@GamErix And the next one is sour.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked sister and GF :P
 
@LucDanton no, I mean, such an implementation wouldn't "work" at all, it would crash on even the simplist of codes. But it appears standard conforming.
 
user142019
9:25 PM
ITT: StackedCrooked is in love.
 
@GamErix Cool.
 
user1182183
//
 
user142019
(\/)(;,,;)(\/)
 
9:26 PM
Not with you.
 
user142019
I hope so!
 
Of course. I should stop this silliness.
 
I'm going to sleep now. Good night.
 
user142019
Well yeah.
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked I haven’t been a fag OP since months.
 
9:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Alrighty. Good luck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bye
 
@MooingDuck Those are contradictory. If I take an iterator to some (non empty) container, I'm guaranteed that the iterator is dereferenceable (or past-the-end -- let's assume the former). Now if I resize some copy of the container, the iterator must still be dereferenceable. No crash allowed, or it's non conforming.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nop well.
 
At this point we're ending up with copy-on-write. Which is super silly given the thread-safety guarantees.
 
@LucDanton oh! clever!
 
9:28 PM
We can them move on from iterator requirements to pointer requirements. Which means that the memory is stable. QED I guess?
 
user142019
I’m gonna work on my new pawn site website.
 
user1182183
 
It's funny how threading is used as an argument in favor of copy-on-write and by others as an argument against copy-on-write.
 
user142019
ITT: race conditions.
 
user142019
^ Terrible pun.
 
9:30 PM
@StackedCrooked COW can't work with the Standard Library's interface. It gives away far too many mutable references.
 
I see.
I was talking about cow rather in general.
 
practically every operation has to count as a write
 
user142019
 
server programming counts as systems programming?
 
@DeadMG According to whom?
 
user142019
9:32 PM
Well, you program systems.
 
wikipedia, actually
 
There's at least some overlap, but that's not saying much.
 
I had to resort to that because I've got practically no other useful definition
I've seen "Systems Programming" but about the only thing I can find that everybody agrees is included is OS programming
I mean, does that include programming to the OS API, or just programming the OS in kernel mode?
 
@JerryCoffin According to the introduction page of the go programming language.
 
the course list I got from Linz university is unhelpfully unspecific in many areas
 
There's an entire martial arts style based on being drunk.
I don't know what's it called in English though.
But I've seen a Jackie Chan movie (IIRC in Cantonese) with it.
 
@GamErix No evidence to imply that there is such a thing as a "weaker" brain cell, nor how alcohol targets them first
 
user1182183
@DeadMG the logic seems legit, more reasons to drink :P
 
Zui Quan (Traditional and Simplified Chinese: 醉拳; pinyin: Zuì Quán) is literally Drunken Fist, also known as Drunken Boxing or Drunkard's Boxing) is a concept in traditional Chinese martial arts, as well as a classification of modern Wushu forms. Zui Quan is sometimes called Zuijiuquan (, literally "Drunken Alcohol Fist"). Concept Zui Quan is a category of techniques, forms and fighting philosophy that appear to imitate a drunkard's movements. The postures are created by momentum and weight of the body, and imitation is generally through staggering and certain type of fluidity in the m...
 
Ah, found it:
Drunken Master is a 1978 Hong Kong martial arts action comedy film directed by Yuen Woo-ping, and starring Jackie Chan, Yuen Siu-tien, and Hwang Jang Lee. The film was a success at the Hong Kong box office, earning two and a half times the amount of Chan's previous film, Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, which was also considered a successful film. It is an early example of the comedic kung fu style for which Jackie Chan became famous. The film popularised the Zui Quan (醉拳, "drunken fist") fighting movement. Background The film's protagonist Wong Fei-hung was a Chinese martial artist, a tradi...
I watched that a looooong time ago with my Dad... At least 10 years ago.
 
user1182183
9:39 PM
 
user1182183
:P
 
user1182183
ofcourse everyone can go to 9gag but this one is worth posting here :$
 
I think I actually saw this one instead:
Drunken Master II () is a 1994 Hong Kong kung fu action film directed by Lau Kar-Leung and Jackie Chan, who stars as Chinese folk hero, Wong Fei Hung. It was Chan's first traditional style martial arts film since The Young Master (1980) and Dragon Lord (1981). The film was released in North America as The Legend of Drunken Master in 2000. The film is a follow-up to Chan's 1978 film Drunken Master, directed by Yuen Woo-ping, but not a direct storyline sequel. Another film, Drunken Master 3 (1994, directed by Lau Kar-Leung) features little in common with either this or its predecessor, an...
 
Btw, the Future of C++ talk will be broadcast at 20:45 central European time. Gonna be good Friday night. (This probably sounds sad..)
 
Hey, uh, since all the smart people typically hang out in here, I was just wondering if any of you knew anything about shell extensions, for Windows?
 
9:42 PM
@Serge Shell extensions? Nah... we're not that smart...
 
I'd laugh at that joke if I knew what those were.
 
well.. perhaps I could link you to my SO question anyways?
 
Please don't do that, no offense intended.
 
Kay.
 
@GamErix The C++ joke is about how it tends to lead to unintended object copies. I didn't know it had such a reputation.
 
9:43 PM
shrug Thought it was worth asking XD
 
People that would answer you are in all likeliness already watching the relevant tags (so make sure to have the proper tags if that's not already the case) or aren't available, so it's no use.
 
@StackedCrooked isn't that just more typical when Java programmers try C++?
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked nice to know as I didn't get it xD
 
@Serge Ah, that would make sense.
 
user1182183
as I said I'm no programmer lol : o
 
Ell
9:44 PM
@DeadMG which algorithm?
 
@LucDanton Thanks anyways =)
 
user1182183
nor I can code in c or c++, well, some crap, like gpb.googlecode.com but not more
 
So, then what's the current plan?
 
@Serge Luc's right about the tags, your question doesn't have any language tags in it. If you're planning on doing your app in C++, you should add that tag. A lot many more people watch it than Windows, shell etc.
 
9:47 PM
@Ell A bunch of them
Norris-Knuth-Pratt, Djikstra, Radix sort
 
Ell
I can do dijkstras
 
@Praetorian True... I downloaded a simple example shell extension though... and it looked almost nothing like C++. Kinda scared me. everything was in [ ]s.
 
Ell
neither of the others
 
I can do djikstra but on paper from memory?
 
Ell
I can do that
that's what we do in further maths
but I guess not in a programmer style
 
9:48 PM
I cannot recall Djikstra's... bah... not off the top of my head. Haven't done any graph theory in a while
 
Ell
so it probably doesn't count
 
I know its a simple point-to-point path finding, but I do not recall the implementation
oddly, though, I do recall Floyd's algorithm...
 
@Serge I have written a simple shell extension and most of the code was from this tutorial
 
@Praetorian Ah, nice. May I ask what it did?
 
@Serge Right click on a file and the menu has an option to copy the full path onto the clipboard
But then MS came along and added that functionality to Windows 7 :)
 
9:52 PM
@Praetorian Huh. Nice... that sounds useful. Wait, I'm in W7, and I do not recall ever seeing that option...
 
Shift + right click and there's a Copy as path option
 
=0
 
Xeo
shift-rclick shows some other interesting options, such as "Open command line here..." when not done on a file but just in a folder.
 
@DeadMG Did you mean Knuth-Morris-Pratt?
 
@JerryCoffin Yes.
that text-searching one
 
9:54 PM
What's with all the Valve saber rattling?
(I'm not super up to date regarding Windows 8.)
 
Short answer: People don't like W8
 
a lot of game devs have put similar things out about Windows 8
 
Gabe's pissed that MS has a store for selling apps and games on Win8
 
I'm not sure I follow how that's even a thing. What could Microsoft do, push GFWL/Xbox-y stuff? That's not competitive, even with previous versions of Windows themselves!
 
@JerryCoffin not sure, but i think Niklaus Wirth wrote about it in Scientific American (!), as an example of algorithm transformation by maintaining invariants, IIRC
 
9:57 PM
It doesn't have to be Xbox arcade-like games, if they can get enough developers to buy into it, it could become a Steam alternative. That's probably the reason why they're all upset
 
I'm reading from some commentators that the article is a bit on the exaggeration side. Can't say I'm surprised.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Interesting -- I might have to look for that. I've always enjoyed Wirth's writing.
 

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