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4:00 PM
@Cicada Quoi?
Oh fuck.
OH FUCK.
 
Don't tell me you never noticed?
 
"Danton Cul"?
 
Srsly?
You never did?
 
Esti de calis de tabarnack de siboire de criss de fuck de marde.
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4:01 PM
what is this Danton Cul?
 
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel I loved the expression of growing realization.
 
I'm confused.
 
You need to know French.
 
It's a subtle pun that means "In your ass"
 
4:02 PM
Please god, no gerbils.
 
oh, well that's lost on non French speakers isn't it
 
Danton is a French name, pronounced like "dans ton" (in your), Luc too, reversed it becomes "cul" = ass.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Canananananadian cursing looks awesome.
 
@Chimera "Dans ton cul" litterally means "in your ass".
@R.MartinhoFernandes More like Québécois. The RoC don't curse like that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel wow..... props to Luc Danton then!
 
4:03 PM
It's hilarious that you're much older than me here and yet never got the pun.
I feel superior.
 
(Yes, I'm adopting your idea of adding a syllable each time; this will be a mess soon)
@Cicada lol
Poor critter.
 
Life is hard under the fridge.
Where roaches live.
 
Is Luc Danton french?
 
since I got back from Linz
 
Was it hard for your Europeans to learn English? Or is it spoken enough that you just naturally learn it?
 
4:04 PM
there have not been enough puppy picture attacks
I'mma go gather some ammunition
 
@Rapptz He lives in France.
 
@Chimera i mistkaes somtiems but not
 
Oh.
 
@Rapptz Parisian, I think. Which is almost the same thing.
 
4:04 PM
@Cicada lol
 
Ell
"one in four children in the UK live in poverty" - bollocks
 
@Ell How is poverty defined.
 
@Ell I read that as "fuck statistics"
 
bollocks as in bullshit or someone unfortunate enough to be named bollocks and this is a quote?
 
lol
@Chimera I did not have a problem.
 
4:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is english pretty easy to pick up?
 
That must have been quite confusing growing up with that name. Mother: "Bollocks, it's time to eat!"
 
Ell
I just saw it on the side of a bus
 
@Chimera It's not "spoken enough that we just naturally learn it". I believe we learnt it because we spent a lot of time reading docs written in English
Nobody speaks english here
Why the fuck would they
 
They must have thought she was anorexic
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In the UK? It means that one in four children only have a phone that makes voice calls and sends texts.
 
4:06 PM
@Chimera I suspect the answer to that question will vary across Europe: it is more similar to some languages than to others.
 
@Cicada When they do, it's hilarious.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ilariousse
 
@Cicada au chocolat.
 
@Cicada And yet you're using english
 
It's probably easy to pick up for the people with a latin alphabet.
 
4:07 PM
@Cicada So you read it and write it, but normally don't speak English. Interesting
 
@MartinJames Yeah, that's what I was hinting at: depending on how you define poverty it's easy to make it true.
 
@Neil By here I mean IRL
 
@Chimera I never get any occasion of speaking it, no
 
@Cicada They don't because they don't want to look like fools.
 
Ell
4:07 PM
English is very similar to dutch and German I believe
 
@Neil But typing, not speaking.
 
Cute puppy puppy
 
@Cicada You did, a few times. When you got on Mumble and did jack shit.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't remember speaking, did I?
 
4:08 PM
@Cicada Exactly. But there was an occasion right there.
 
@Chimera Anyway, for a native Portuguese speaker... From my experience, I'd say my colleagues in general had more difficulty with it than they had with French.
 
I've considered learning a second language using Rosetta Stone. What language should I learn? Spanish is the obvious choice, but German seems more fun.
 
Spanish is easy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm interesting.
 
@Chimera why is Spanish the obvious choice?
 
4:09 PM
@Chimera Egyptian
 
Maybe because it's one of the three languages I was born under in.
 
@Ell Close enough that, without ever having taken a class in German in my life, if I just relax and listen, I can understand a fair amount of German (but not nearly so much Dutch/Flemish).
 
Ell
Spanish is good. Fourth most spoken IIRC
 
@Chimera German ? Fun ? How the fuck did you get these two words together ?
 
@Chimera What's that?
 
4:09 PM
@thecoshman In the US? Well, well.
 
@thecoshman Because the US has a lot of spanish speaking people.
 
oh, your in US :P
 
te sugiero espanol
 
I want to learn Russian, but I'm always too lazy to even begin.
 
no i don't have the fucking hipster tilde on my keyboard
 
4:10 PM
~?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Language learning software that is supposed to work really well.
 
@Cicada omg
 
@EtiennedeMartel Start here
 
@Rapptz huh, what's with sandra bollocks?
 
Spanish is a rather common spoken language. If Chinese is out, I would go for Spanish
 
Ell
4:10 PM
I want to learn Norwegian but finding the time and effort is difficult :o
 
@Cicada Oh, the other day I investigated more and realized that Spanish call everything a tilde. Silly Spanish.
 
Plus, I know enough Italian to know that if you speak Spanish well, you basically already know Italian 90%
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh so you see, I wasn't lying :)
 
Yeah. I apologize if I did call you a bitch or something.
If I did not, let me take the opportunity to do, since I already apologized, bitch.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It is pretty hard -- the alphabet is obviously a big step, but the grammar is decidedly different from most other European languages too.
 
4:11 PM
I speak in spanish to portuguese friends and we understand each other pretty well
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We call it "acento" or accent.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Please, go on.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ? ? ?
 
@Cicada Yeah, we and Spanish we understand each other well.
 
4:12 PM
@kbok Morally iffy stuff.
 
@Rapptz Are you spanish? In South america we call accents "tilde" and tilde, well, tilde.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, this is not gonna help my lazyassitis.
 
@Rapptz You're Brazilian, right?
 
I'm from South America.
Nah.. I'm from Venezuela.
 
4:13 PM
Sorry.
 
Woa, multicultural shit in here.
We got, like, ALL THE WORLD.
 
Ell
Uh oh. I think I caught the wrong bus. :O
 
Except Asia, for some reason.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sorry 'bout that. If I looked around (and didn't mind the postage) I could send you a couple of books, but my laziness probably prevents that...
 
4:13 PM
@JerryCoffin We all got the same issues, it seems.
 
genial, ahora voy a poder ser irritante porque hablo en español! ajajajajajajaja
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't you sounds drunk to each other though?
 
@thecoshman No.
I don't know how Portuguese sound to Spanish, but Spanish don't sound drunk to me.
 
Only when they're drunk.
 
@thecoshman You say that because you sound drunk to everyone
 
4:14 PM
I don't have experience with drunk Spanish, though.
 
@kbok shut it
 
@Cicada Spanish laughter looks so silly.
 
Ell
I can read Spanish :D
 
I failed so badly at learning Spanish in school, only just about managed to grasp numbers.
 
@kbok He lives in Ireland. Standard behavior.
 
4:15 PM
I wonder if people actually pronounce the j as it is in English.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like you have a potato in your mouth
 
It sounds weird when you say it with the English pronounciation.
 
@Rapptz it depends
 
Ell
You pronounce j as "hhghkkgh"
 
@Rapptz Yeah, that's what I was hinting at.
 
4:16 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Please, see the brazilian one, kkkkkkkkkkkk (and others auehauehauehaue)
 
@Cicada that's Scandinavia :P
 
@Cicada Oh, yeah, I think I mentioned before that I have no idea what the fuck they smoked to come up with that.
 
Ell
As if you are hukking up a load of phlegm
 
Portuguese laughter looks just like in English.
Haha.
Or "hehe".
 
Aka sad and dull.
look im so hahaha happy ;_;
 
4:17 PM
Or ahah.
 
on the other side you have spain AJAJAJAjajAJAjAJAj JOSE
 
Ell
jajaja looks happier than hahaha
 
@Ell Wait a minute. When did Welsh come into the conversation?
 
It looks silly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Come to think of it, how do you pronounce AJAX?
 
@Neil In which language
 
First time I saw it I though it was German (ja, ja, ja)
 
@Neil Ah-jacks?
 
@Cicada Oops, that was supposed to be directed towards @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@Neil Fake IPA adzacs.
 
4:19 PM
One problem is that hardly anyone from UK has ever heard any spoken Spanish while themselves sober, (or portuguese, for that matter).
 
@MartinJames lies
 
Just curious.. they pronounce it differently in Italy as well
 
Ell
Welsh is a funny language, like someone took syllables out of a hat :P
 
@Ell show some respect, it's a very old language
 
@Neil Basically I pronounce the "j" as in "JavaScript" in English.
 
4:20 PM
@Rapptz You know, the "j" sound is different in many languages
 
@thecoshman ..and needs to die off.
 
@MartinJames indeed
 
@Cicada I think I know.
 
any hoops, finally time head home
 
@Cicada He's clearly using APA.
 
4:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've heard it pronounced "ay-jax" as well as "ah-jax"
 
see ya'll later maties
 
@Rapptz What I mean is you can't say "I pronounce it ah-jax" that adds no information
 
@Neil Oh, we use the latter. In Portuguese "a" always comes of as some variant of "ah", never as "ay".
 
@Neil "ay-ax" here - silent 'j'
 
The phoneme "ay" is written "ei".
 
4:22 PM
@Cicada Question asked. Question answered.
 
Bah, forget it.
 
Ok, I think this is the correct IPA rendering of how I pronounce AJAX /adÊ’aks/.
 
Time to eat some fish and chips.
BECAUSE FAT IS LIFE.
 
Just seems like a silly premise.
 
@EtiennedeMartel GO MURRICA
 
4:24 PM
 
I mean, since the word itself is an acronym of English background I'd code switch to English.
 
@DeadMG obligatory
@Rapptz so you say "SQL" like "sequel"? I don't
 
I have some fish fingers, maybe I fry them up to go with the chips. Not sure yet, but hungry.
 
@DeadMG "This should be the national anthem ." lol
 
@Cicada Yeah, I pronounce it like Sequel.
MySQL is My Sequel.
 
4:26 PM
@Cicada I spell out the letters.
 
@DeadMG Catchy tune at least
 
yeah
 
The first time I heard it as "sequel" I was like "What the fuck is this guy on about?"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So do I
 
"Sequel" here, unless talking to SQL developer, then "Squeal".
 
4:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I also spell out. Ess Queue Ell.
 
Ass Queue Ell FTFY
 
lol
 
It's easier to say MySequel than My SQL. 3 syllables vs 4. Not that it matters though.
 
It has sequelae - brain-death is one.
 
4:29 PM
Some Portuguese pronounce it as "skel". That pisses me off a lot.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I enjoy mispronouncing acronyms just to piss off people.
XAML is my favorite.
Ex Ay Em Ell
 
@Cicada Did I mention you're a bitch?
 
Instead of zamel
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have no memory of it. Did you?
 
I pronounce XAML as a initialism rather than an acronym.
 
@Chimera Rofl
 
4:32 PM
@DeadMG Yeah funny stuff
 
@Rapptz I just avoid (talking about or using) it in general.
 
@Cicada I usually use Ex Em Ell for XML and Zamel for XAML.
 
A man is riding on a train when a second gentleman gets on and sits down across from him. The first man notices the second is holding an oddly shaped package.
"What is that?" the first man asks.
"A MacGuffin, a tool used to hunt lions in the Scottish highlands."
"But there are no lions in the Scottish highlands," says the first man.
"Well then," says the other, "That's no MacGuffin".
^ I'm not sure I get it
 
@JerryCoffin I heard it died off.
 
Does someone here know what I need to do to set up Eclipse with MinGW?
 
4:33 PM
XAML died off? When? Man, do I live in a grotto or what.
 
@Rapptz Erm. It's all over Win8.
 
@DeadMG Usually I do the same. Except when I want to make people cringe.
 
Huh, XAML is the flagship of all this metro stuff
 
I would hardly call that dying out.
 
@Rapptz First I heard it if so. I got the impression MS was using it more all the time.
 
4:34 PM
Wrong train of thought.
Sorry, I meant XNA.
 
That did die.
 
How do you pronounce that one?
 
Ah well yeah
 
4:34 PM
In fiction, a MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin or maguffin) is a plot device in the form of some goal, desired object, or other motivator that the protagonist (and sometimes the antagonist) is willing to do and sacrifice almost anything to pursue, often with little or no narrative explanation as to why it is considered so desirable. A MacGuffin, therefore, functions merely as "a plot element that catches the viewers' attention or drives the plot of a work of fiction". In fact, the specific nature of the MacGuffin may be ambiguous, undefined, generic, left open to interpretation or otherwise ...
 
Ex N A?
 
eek then ay
 
I pronounce that as an initialism too.
 
@MooingDuck Noooooo! Link to TV Tropes. It's the officialest source.
 
@Rapptz That's pretty much a zombie -- still walking (or at least wanking), but no longer being developed at all, AFAIK.
 
4:35 PM
@MooingDuck The MacGuffin trope comes from this joke so that's not really helpful :/
 
@kbok not according to the wikipeida page, which also explains that joke
 
And the other guy (the C dude) on the win8 channel who tells me to use XNA to make 3d games
humpf.
> The term was popularized by Alfred Hitchcock, who actually credited one of his screenwriters, Angus McPhail, with the creation of this concept and the name for it, citing a particular school-boy joke:
(from tv tropes)
 
You can edit wikipedia, ya know.
If you guys wiggle your finger in your bellybutton, do you feel it in your penis?
I'm seeing this thread about it and it's never happened to me so I'm confused.
 
No. I tried. Doesn't work.
 
There was a briefcase MacGuffin in a film, 2-3 years ago. Lots of people died trying to get hold of it, but it's contents were never revealed, (Transporter 2?).
 
@kbok Nah, he told you to use MonoGame. (How ironic)
 
@Cicada He did not
 
He did. I was there.
 
He did not.
 
4:40 PM
@MartinJames If that wasn't 2-3 years, I might have said Pulp Fiction.
 
@kbok Wikipedia agrees. The joke is from 1966, the term was first mentioned in 1935
 
@kbok SiPlus was not a W8 guy, he was a random peon.
An annoying peon.
 
> (the C dude) on the win8 channel
Jerry said it was DX11
 
Oh sorry. I accidentally a word
 
@MartinJames Anyway, MacGuffins are rather common.
 
4:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Who said that btw, out of curiosity?
 
twitter.
 
@Cicada One Richard Mourdock.
 
Mourdock.
 
I still can't understand how the most powerful country on this planet is led by religious faith.
massive facepalm
 
beats me, too
The world would be a much better place if everyone, like Europeans, was driven by laziness.
 
4:45 PM
I don't understand how Europe is still rich considered how lazy we are.
Maybe that's just France though.
 
@Cicada I'm trying to think back to a time when the worlds most powerful countries weren't led by religious faith. I feel like it's been a while.
 
Maybe we're lazy because we're rich.
 
@MooingDuck But this is 2012. We're supposed to be out of the medieval epoch.
 
Maybe lazy and smart is more productive than hard-working and dumb :)
 
@Cicada and we're supposed to have flying cars and robot maids and such.
 
4:48 PM
@Cicada Look before the medieval ages.
 
@kbok That remains to be proven
@MooingDuck My flying car is called Airbus
 
@Cicada You have 2km of flat tarmac next to your house?
 
@Cicada that's mass transit. Means we're close.
 
@MooingDuck I don't think it's ever really happened. Rather the opposite: I doubt most politicians have strong religious beliefs at all; they simply express whatever beliefs they think will pander to the largest number of voters. Elections are primarily a test of which brand of idiocy voters find the most acceptable.
 
@MartinJames yup.
 
4:51 PM
@JerryCoffin It influences scientific decisions though.
Such as the funding of Stem Cells.
 
@JerryCoffin And those beliefs have been religious thus far, so the politicians are being let by religious beliefs, even if they, themselves, are not religious.
 
@Cicada Impressive. ILS?
 
@MartinJames She lives next to the highway.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, I kinda guessed that:)
 
@MooingDuck They're not being led by the religious beliefs at all. They're simply expressing what they want in religious terms. Is there anything in the Bible to actually support the belief that "legitimate rape" won't result in pregnancy? While I can't claim to be an authority on what the Bible does or doesn't say, I've never heard anybody quote anything even hinting at such a thing.
 
4:55 PM
lol
 
@JerryCoffin Except Akin didn't cite the bible. He said "several doctors"
Which is even more idiotic, in my opinion.
 
@JerryCoffin What I meant is, a big part of the population would consider "Barack is muslim" enough of an argument to not vote for him (for example).
 
Given the number of supposedly religious politicians who have espoused that position, I'm pretty sure if it had even the vaguest hint at such a thing, we'd have heard about it by now.
 
Yeah, the problem isn't religion. The problem is humans using religion to mislead other humans.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hum. How is that different from the very definition of religion?
 
4:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I usually word it a bit differently, though I think the idea's the same: religion is rarely the reason -- only the excuse.
 
@Cicada Without religion, people would simply find other excuses.
 
Anyway, I have a conference call I have to get on in two minutes. Later all.
 
Then we would be "oh, imagine a world without communism or fascism, wouldn't that be great?"
 
@EtiennedeMartel Fair point.
 
@EtiennedeMartel religion, based on insane beliefs, is a problem in and of itself. basically because anything can be (apparently) proved from a falsehood.
 
4:59 PM
I don't think the logic is the issue.
 
Religion is a pretext. It's a tool. It's not bad by itself. It all depends on how it's used.
 

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